Is it disrespectful for the Championship Team not to make the White House visit?
The NBA Champion Golden State Warriors unanimously voted as a team not to make a White House visit to the President after beating the Cleveland Cavaliers, as did Tom Brady and many of the Superbowl Champion Patriots. Do you see this as disrespect?
Yes, I see it as disrespect. But I'm not bothered because I like to imagine the POTUS and everyone else at the White House has more important things to be doing than hosting adults who play athletic games real well.
lol ~ Yup, Pseudo-President Donald "Milhouse" Trump does indeed have more "IMPORTANT" things 2 do like Maniacally "TWEETING" himself & others STRAIGHT into Prison ~ The U.S. Presidency has been Rendered IRRELEVANT by Donald john ~ GO Warriors
So perfect a Hollywood supporting another Hollywood type (NBA). I just love it. It is so hip to be anti-Trump.
No. I think if the team decides not to visit the White House, it's fine. Sports teams are businesses that have to protect their brands. Deciding not to associate their brand with a certain politician or party is a wise move.
Certainly our current President understands the concept of protecting the brand, and would understand this business decision, unless he is a hopeless egomaniac who needs the constant parade of adulation from winning sports teams.
Do you mean like our last one did? Just saying.
Clearly, sports teams did not see the association with "our last one" as something that would tarnish their brand. Just saying...
Lisa your point is well taken. Those who seem to hate POTUS are those that kind of embrace the "gang" style notion in pro sports. 20 year olds' who buy 200 dollar basketball shoes and 100$ T-shirts.
But where are the greats like Kobe in these matters
Greg, It always amazes me how the flag waving patriots who champion free speech always cry foul when that speech doesn't fit their narrative. The days of Ozzie & Harriet are over. And they ain't comin' back.
Nice try at a dog whistle, Eric, but I'd hardly call Tom Brady someone who embraces that notion. As I said: there's no financial updside to associating a sports team brand with the current POTUS. Gangsta? Hardly.
Aye Lisa, patriotism as you point out seldom has a profit margin. Warmongering maybe. Hating maybe. But common respect is not what you teach your children if you only want them to become rich and famous like the Kardashians. I get it.
Honestly, I would have thought the whole taking a knee fiasco would have taught sports teams, in general, to stay as far away from politics as possible.
I think it is reflective of our society now. It might seem rude but nowadays Joe stock clerk who never even got his GED and is minimally literate can go on line and know more than the president. This last generation or so just think that POTUS' are dumb and they are smart.
We have dummied down so much.
We have to respect people for their opinions now even if they are based on gossip and without effort to form them responsibly - because everyone deserves our respect except our leaders in the greatest democracy ever known. It is bizarre.
So no I do not think it disrespectful - but believe me if NBA fans are as lame about politics as the players -- you could lose a lot of fans by going.
The greatest democracy ever known is that which existed here prior to the European Invasion of 1492. You do not know this because you have accepted the lies that have been seeded throughout a system based on the false notion of white supremacy.
Ronnie maybe your Native American nation. But out my way the tribes were not democratic at all. A matriarchal ownership and a council that ruled hard. Chiefs were not voted in. Either inheritance or victory over the other. Counting Coup.
I think it disrespectful not to accept an invitation to the WH. However, Coach Steve Kerr told Monte Poole with NBCSportsBayArea back in November that if Trump were elected, and if the Warriors won the championship, he would not accept a White House invitation to visit. As of yet no invitation was extended. Guess, they won't have to worry about turning it down.
I actually am with President Trump on this one, why extend an invite to a team that have already made their feelings clear. Just my opinion, but I appreciate the fact that Trump's "don't let the door hit you" wonderful... Maybe next year the winners will be from a state that has a bit more manners.
If it was the coaches choice it is very wrong to stop the whole team from going. It should be up to the individual players, if they are man enough to show their feelings. It isn't likely that the whole team feels the same as the coach. But, then agai
Donald Trump has been presiding over the killing of Syrian civilians since he took office. Now, would you consider the killing of your entire family to be a notch above "bad manners"? I certainly would.Trump, and his motley crew belong in prison.
Ronnie wrenchBiscuit Obama turned his back on 500,000 Syrians It's called genocide. Fact. You should actually do some research before you spout off your hate. This is why dem's lost, and will not see the WH again on in a very long time.
Genocide of Christians NOW seems like secondary to genocide of others 100 years ago. I have never seen a Jew hate all Germans like Ronnie hates all Americans. It is just bizarre. Ronnie please point toward love and not hate.
I did not refer to the American people as criminals.You are creating a strawman or U didn't read my post. Some say that willful ignorance makes one an accessory to a crime, but I made no such allegation. U don't like free speech or the the truth.
What you say is YOUR TRUTH according to YOUR BELIEFS.
Greg,The United States gov. has been killing innocents in the M.East 4 over 20 years. Make me out a liar if you can. Tens of thousands of dead bodies say otherwise. Sharon, Obama was just another puppet. I don't subscribe 2 evil, but only freedom.
Ronnie you are so consumed with hate and imprisoned by it that you cannot decipher real freedom. Freedom is not of the physical bondage but of that thing that binds each one of to to each other. A hand out to you would be spit upon.
No, I am consumed with the truth. I am not bound by tyrants. I know perfectly well what freedom is. You are afraid of freedom, because what you have become accustomed to cannot exist in the free world.
Oh so now I get it. The idea is like one of those Christians who know the truth but the rest of us are fools. Kind of like the Jihadists that kill gays.
Just another day and another group to hate. Ho hum. Raymond Billygoats is herding the other way
No, not the "rest" Eric. U don't represent the people who have educated themselves about the status quo. In fact U are quickly becoming a minority. Our numbers are growing by the day.I am the future.
Hey Ronnie what do you think about the 6th in Georgia? Folks are going your way in revolt.Looks to me like they are still rebelling against your way of looking at things.32 state's legislature Republican? Yelling does not change the statistics.
Over $50 million has been spent on that ridiculous farce. And what do the people get for their money? Another frigid puppet to help perpetuate the oligarchy. It's hard to blame the politicians when ignorant people keep believing their vote matters.
Ronnie we are in agreement here. I sent a mail off to someone who directed much of that money being sent there.
I told her, that the day is coming when the candidate with that dough builds two libraries and wins by example.Press will cover it.
Who knows Eric? Maybe next week we'll be hanging out together, drinking a beer, and comparing notes on the bar maid.
Sharon, Great comments. Unfortunately, the Real USA doesn't reach sea to shining sea anymore. There is nothing Golden in California, unless you are the tax man.
Ronnie, sorry I missed your comment.We would have to be off the res. They are still a "dry" place. Have no doubt that I agree with you on the unjust treatment of The Din'e. But to me, Native Americans are not a group. Your nation is different.
No, it is not disrespectful at all. It would be disrespctful of the American people if they did go. Just like the great Colin Kaepernick, and the great Muhammad Ali before him, they are standing against tyranny. Many people are starting to awaken and realize that the true terrorists,the true enemy of the American people, and the citizens of the world, are the criminals who have hijacked a democratic republic in defiance of the U.S. Constitution.
You always amaze me Ronnie how you can hate so much and yet still have energy to write. You are a credit.
T. won due to people "Awakening" to the fact that we need change. He and you apparently feel that any and all that voted for him are criminals? I have never broke a law, I am well educated and take offence at your glib insult. Time for you to wake up
Ronnie it appears that you hate me because of my skin. What my parents and grandparents may have done to people you have never met.I am not bad because of what happened to ancestors you never met, or Syrians in the mix of hating Christians and killin
Eric,telling lies comes natural 4U. I haven't claimed to hate anyone, and all you are doing is creating a strawman. I am also a white man as well as Indigenous, so how could I hate U 4 your skin? U hate the truth. Get over it.
Ronnie you have spoken hate. I do not condone hate. You insist that white people are bad. And that America is bad. Own it like a real American or be a coward. My Navajo people laugh at your wanta be BS.You speak nothing of oneness with earth.
UR the one who insists on telling lies. America is not synonymous with "white people". All Europeans are not thieves. All Europeans are not war mongers. U insult the white man by suggesting a stand against evil is a stand against the white race.
Ronnie point well taken. You are correct. When I was growing up they slammed all "indians" as one group. Pima, Piute, Haualapai, Navajo, Hopi. We can no more label all Caucasians than we can label all of the natives.Same with NBA.
Eric, the difference is that the NBA is a totality, and their teams represent their values. The NBA like all professional sports have rules, and regulations imposed on all the teams and players.
I think it is more than disrespectful, it is UnAmerican and it doesn't meet the requirements of being called a Champion. It also reflects on the NBA which is a professional sports organization. There is nothing professional about what the GSW did, especially when they made up their mind before Trump was even elected president. That proves that they don't really care what kind of a job he does as president.
I don't follow any sports, so I really don't care about them. If I did care, I would never go to any game played by these kind of pseudo Americans.
What exactly is their message, what are they trying to say? I doubt if they know, and how important can it be for the country and the people. Perhaps sports teams should be conferenced by Red or Blue. Those rooting for America to win, and those hoping that America will fail.
California is filled with the latter. And lets hope that America never becomes a California.
bradmasterOCcal Thank God there is lots of miles between the coasts, and great people with wonderful innate common sense. This is why we have the protection of the electoral college. We will be heard, and change is coming like a freight train.
Sharon, unfortunately, I grew up in NYC and live in CA. The only thing I would change about the EC is the all or nothing, to a pop split.
America failed when it enslaved the African for 400 years. America failed when it committed genocide against my people and stole an entire continent. The only change coming is an end to an evil empire, and all of those who support perpetual war.
Sharlee that is a fine comment. People nowadays just are blind about state's rights. Even the notion of a national "popular" vote is moronic. Really? We want a popular person? The EC is critical. They did not figure that out by accident.
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