Liberals for illegal immigration defend this ?

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    ahorsebackposted 16 months ago

    The Huffington Post ; well known and admittedly liberal news outlet reports that according to Fusion studies 80 % of women and young girls are raped during the long journey of border crossing at our southern border. 80 % !   Previous reports showed that that number has risen from 60% .

    Who will defend illegal immigration ?
    Is it worth the voter based gain ?
    What about a woman's rights ?

    1. Live to Learn profile image83
      Live to Learnposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Women's rights? The liberal establishment only pays lip service to the concept.

      From Hillary, assuming women have no right to make their own decisions to their turning a blind eye to atrocities against women in Islam...is it any wonder rape is of little consequence in the mad rush to import voters?

  2. Kathleen Cochran profile image80
    Kathleen Cochranposted 16 months ago

    "Trump’s demagoguery about immigration has completely ignored the realities that crime has been falling for decades and the undocumented population leveled off years ago."  The Brookings  Institute April 2018

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      ahorsebackposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Kathleen , Look at the numbers  60-80 % raped .....,seriously ? These are women raped during the  crossing and  Huffington Post is a liberal paper !
      Are you willing to ignore that for party what , ideological addiction ?

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image80
        Kathleen Cochranposted 16 months agoin reply to this

        So what's the take-away here?  If they didn't leave their dangerous countries trying to come to the relative safety of the US, they wouldn't get raped?

        What the Brooking's stats show is that, in this country, we are not suffering from illegal immigration as Trump keeps insisting.  He probably thinks one of his family businesses will get the contract to build the wall we apparently don't need.

        Yes, I have a party ideological addiction.  It's common sense.

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          ahorsebackposted 16 months agoin reply to this

          80 % of women getting raped is 4 out of 5 ,Kathleen , that may be one "take away" .
          Another ".take away" is that your "common sense  " isn't very common after all ?
          Women anywhere wouldn't want you on a jury in a rape trial .  Of course illegal alien women don't get a trial do they Kathleen ? 

          How about the 2000 +  death in the desert , ..........nothing huh ?

          1. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 16 months agoin reply to this

            How will building a wall prevent these rapes?

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              ahorsebackposted 16 months agoin reply to this

              Um how about stop the traffic ,stop the rapes .........?
              At least stop a great percentage of the traffic ?
              At least stop a majority of rapes even ?
              Tell me something  , where are liberal womens outrage at this incredible number ?
              Oh that's right ,"Identity politics ".

              1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                Who says we're not outraged by rape, regardless of where it occurs and who perpetrates it? You're inventing a false choice to further your political agenda.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                  If they are being raped on their illegal, shadowy trek to avoid the law, and they don't make that trek, then they will not be raped on their illegal, shadowy trek to avoid the law.  Pretty simple.

                  Doesn't say anything about what might happen during the time they are not sneaking across the border, though.  My personal guess is that they will very likely be raped whether climbing over the fence or not.

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                  ahorsebackposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                  Pretty Panther "....... a false choice for my political agenda ....." How is the rape of an illegal female immigrant while immigrating my choice or even my agenda ?  I'm a man and men don't often get raped , I'll tell you what we do though , we don't ignore them  because it makes our particular ideology look bad .

                  Like I've often said ,  large group issues are great liberal causes until the individual has a problem , same for a woman ,same with race , same with minority issues , the group mentality of that party is P.C. just don't expect support for the singular victims .

              2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                The idea that if one is opposed to wasting billions on a border wall, then one is also supportive of rape is illogical. In fact, it is so stupid that it would receive an "F' in deductive reasoning. It is, however, typical of how you attempt to demonize liberals by creating an irrational and false narrative to suit your political  world view.

                How will a border wall stop the rape of immigrants? It won't. 

                Fortunately, I realize your inability to think rationally is not a trait of all conservatives, or even all Trump supporters.  Shall I post a picture of Ivanka yucking it up with Harvey Weinstein and claim she is supportive of rapists? It would make as much sense as your  ridiculous argument.

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                  ahorsebackposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                  Yet still you'd rather politicize my issue of rapes than even acknowledge the number quoted by the Huffington Post that 60-80 percent of female border crossers are raped .....nothing huh ?  Why am I not surprised .   The cost of the wall is a stupid idea but the incredible percentage of women raped ,What ...........Oh well ?

                2. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                  I doubt that you would find anyone, liberal or conservative, that would support wasting billions on a border wall. 

                  Spending billions to protect the border, while saving even more billions...that you will find at least conservatives supporting.

                  Funny how eliminating the loaded words and making it about fact rather than derogatory terminology changes things, isn't it?

                  1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image96
                    Wesman Todd Shawposted 16 months agoin reply to this

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                    ahorsebackposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                    That is why I took the Huffington Post's numbers and used them . Using  An admittedly liberal news agency report of 80 % to ask the question ,  I mean how can they argue such percentages ?   Liberals here don't seem even willing to admit the  horror to these  illegal women's crossings and crimes against them .

                    Let's divert the conversation to about "The Wall" only?  I guess I'm never surprised much anymore.

                  3. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 16 months agoin reply to this

                    Lol, there is no credible expert in border security who believes a border wall is a rational solution to the immigration problem. Heck, you yourself thought it should be a "virtual" wall, unless I've mixed you up with some other poster, which is entirely possible.

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    ahorsebackposted 16 months ago

    One more plus factor for building a wall , How do liberals morally defend their support for this ? So much for the human treatment of illegal immigrants by the left ?
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    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      By blaming it on conservatives that won't accept a border that can be crossed at will by anyone wishing to feed off of American generosity.

  4. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image96
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 16 months ago

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    ahorsebackposted 16 months ago

    All of this is All the more reason for a high tech national voter  I.D. card , much like a chip card with the highest possible federally regulated security imbedded ,...  voter apathy is always going to be a significantly high  percentage of potential voters but because of such polarized parties election accuracy and integrity is paramount .
    Anyone that assumes voting rolls are NOT being played , especially by the left, is dreaming .

 
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