Trump Lies to Troops About Raise. Why are Trump Supporters Silent?

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  1. My Esoteric profile image89
    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    When Donald Trump made a surprise 3-hour visit to troops in Iraq, he turned them into political props.  In the process he took credit (not for the first time) for giving soldiers "their first raise in 10 years" (a lie). 

    He also said "They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'"  (another lie).

    Two massive lies to our troops who are fighting and dying to protect America.

    Why aren't Trump supporters screaming to high heavens about "Lyin' Trump"??

    1. Live to Learn profile image81
      Live to Learnposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Out of curiosity, can you prove he didn't say that? Somewhere, to someone? Trump is known for his exaggerations. I've noticed no one on any front holds the people they support to the same standard as do their detractors.

      The better question would be why do we all wear blinders.

      1. My Esoteric profile image89
        My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        I can prove he DID say that.  Trump is also known for massive lying and even more massive habit of making False statements that he should know (unless he is mentally ill) aren't true.

        As far as Trump goes, the only people wearing blinders are his cult like supporters.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image83
          PrettyPantherposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Trump is mentally ill. It is obvious to those who are not wearing blinders.

        2. wilderness profile image97
          wildernessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          If you can prove that he DID say "Give them 10%" (or a reasonable facsimile), why did you say he lied about saying it?  Just who is lying here, anyway?

          (I agree with LtL, though - that was the first thought that crossed my mind - does Esoteric have bugs on all of Trump's clothing or something, listening to every word he says wherever he is?)

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image79
            JAKE Earthshineposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            Unfortunately for Bozo, everyone has a camera in this modern world and no, he's not invisible and he can't brainwash the masses into believing he didn't say what he actually said unless of course you happen to be one of his very few remaining followers hanging on to God knows what for God knows what dark unholy reason:

            DESPICABLE Behavior: Impeachable Behavior: I count at least 4 blatant lies in this one minute film clip which clearly depicts what appears to be an astonishingly sick, babbling, considerably obese, unhealthy looking 72 year old:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t12atWTudk

            1. wilderness profile image97
              wildernessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              Esoteric may be able to bug every word our president says.  I flatly do not believe that YOU can.  You just make it up out of thin air.

              1. JAKE Earthshine profile image79
                JAKE Earthshineposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                lol, sorry wilderness, it was not I who made this up because Bozo's LIES were captured right here on film by our troops and perhaps every major news outlet in the world, I simply posted the damning evidence of his sick babbling in this forum for your enjoyment and pleasure:

                I would assume after his pathetic perhaps uncontrollable series of falsehoods about military pay, our troops might now be expecting a 10% raise instead of the much lower one they will actually receive in 2019 right ??

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t12atWTudk

                1. PrettyPanther profile image83
                  PrettyPantherposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  I doubt he or any other Trumpeter will watch it. It might put a crack in their carefully crafted, big, beautiful wall of denial.

                  1. wilderness profile image97
                    wildernessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                    You're right there - there isn't much of anything Jake posts that is worth even a few seconds of consideration. 

                    Massive name calling, hyperbole and outright lies have a tendency to produce that result.

                  2. MizBejabbers profile image91
                    MizBejabbersposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                    LOL. Maybe they need to take that "carefully crafted, big, beautiful wall of denial" and place it along the Mexican border to keep out all those "bad Mexicans and other illegals." At least he would get his wall.

          2. My Esoteric profile image89
            My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            Picky, Picky.  You know as well as I that Trump lied when he said HE gave the troops more than a 10% raise.

          3. My Esoteric profile image89
            My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            I read, which you obviously don't, read and LISTEN to the news; news from real news outlets and not propaganda outlets like Fox. 

            So, are you pretending Trump DIDN'T say that????  By the way, you did see  the quotes around Trump's statement didn't you?  You do know what those mean, don't you?

        3. Live to Learn profile image81
          Live to Learnposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          The primary difference between Trump and other politicians is he is not as adept at hiding himself when he lies. Its like smells in a public restroom. He just doesn't carry a spray can to cover up the underlying smell you know he's making, like other people carry.

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image79
            JAKE Earthshineposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            More false comparisons Live to Learn ?? The other primary difference between Bozo Trump and other politicians is that Bozo is pathological at it, perhaps he can't stop and has told over 6,000 lies and counting according to those who are documenting the falsehoods uttered by this abominably sick old man:

            There is ZERO comparison between any other politician and Bozo, he is the undisputed KING of Corruption and Lies and hopefully, God willing our country will only be required to endure his perpetual chaotic crisis for a short time longer as the LAW closes in on him:

      2. GA Anderson profile image90
        GA Andersonposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Does it matter if he said it to someone, anywhere? He portrayed to the troops that he demanded a 10+% increase. He got 2.6%.

        The military has received pay raises every year. That is contrary to Pres. Trump's statement.

        It appears he requested a 2.1% increase, so where did this 10% stuff come from?

        "First time in 10 years?" Can you defend and support that that is not a lie?

        GA

        1. Live to Learn profile image81
          Live to Learnposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          I would not attempt to defend Trump, other than pointing out that I've lived long enough to hear a lot of politician's bull. The amount of affront I see at Trump doing the same as every other politician has done (albeit, with a unique Trump flare) is the only thing I question. Why do we allow lies to rule in Washington, yet get upset with an individual liar?

          1. My Esoteric profile image89
            My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            Trump is in his own category.  I have lived long as well and have observed presidents and politicians since Eisenhower.  Not one, not even Joe McCarthy or another demagogue Huey Long, has lied and told as many false statements as Trump has in 700 days. 

            It is not that most politicians, since they are people too, lie and mislead, it is that Trump has turned into a destructive art form.  You lie and tell falsehoods. I lie and tell falsehoods but I bet you don't do it to the tune of 12 blatant ones A DAY.

            You know who doesn't do what Trump does in politician land?  Moderates, that is who.  The more a politician moves to one side of the political spectrum, the number of false statements they tell goes up exponentially.

            1. wilderness profile image97
              wildernessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              "Not one, not even Joe McCarthy or another demagogue Huey Long, has lied and told as many false statements as Trump has in 700 days. "

              Are you sure?  Without electronic media and the social platforms how would you know?  Who would they lie to without the 24/7 recorders going?  Who would hear of the lies?

              1. JAKE Earthshine profile image79
                JAKE Earthshineposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                We're in a very dark place when you're trying to compare the current oval office resident with Joe McCarthy: WoW: But at least Tiny Hands Trump is the undisputed KING of something and many of his lies pertain to very serious subjects which could trigger nuclear conflicts etc: Aside from the criminal investigations, he could and should be impeached for breaching his oath of office by telling an unprecedented critical mass of lies which indicates to psychiatric experts there must be something seriously out of wack upstairs where a normally functioning brain usually lives:

                "President Trump has made 6,420 false or misleading claims over 649 days"

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … 2fc6644577

                1. wilderness profile image97
                  wildernessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                  I'd have to say Trump is no worse than you are.  For instance, I didn't compare Trump to McCarthy: the text you are looking at was a quote from someone else.  Yet here you are, insinuating it came from me...exactly as you whine about Trump doing.

                  1. JAKE Earthshine profile image79
                    JAKE Earthshineposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                    lol, yeah wilderness, he must be rubbing off on you which is scary because that sounds just like Bozo Trump's excuse that he wasn't actually the originator of the TWEET, he just RE-Tweeted a quote by Benito Mussolini:

                    Wait until our troops get their usual pay raise in 2019 instead of what Bozo told them he'd get for them and wait until government workers begin getting default notices because Bozo is halting operations and holding back their pay checks due to threats from Rush Limpy and Ann "Weirdo" Coulter while Vladimir Putin wallows in joyful celebration:

                    No wonder this fool can't seem to fill a large auditorium for a veterans event , no wonder he got crushed in the midterms and no wonder he and now his mate Melanie keep SINKING in approval ratings : Seriously, how many MORE reasons do his last remaining followers need to despise and obstruct this creep who could care less about them ??

                    Nothing less than DISGUSTING and Despicable:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t12atWTudk

              2. PrettyPanther profile image83
                PrettyPantherposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing, or do you truly believe that is a legitimate question?

                1. wilderness profile image97
                  wildernessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                  It is a legitimate question.  We hear far more words from Trump than we ever did from much earlier figures, and personal spin/opinion hundreds of times on social media about those same words that we never did before - why then the assumption that others did not lie just as much?  Simply because we heard nothing from them and thus assume they said nothing?

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image83
                    PrettyPantherposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                    Have you ever known another human being to lie so much, in any sphere of your life? I haven't, and I have a brother with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, a drug addicted stepson, and an alcoholic uncle, all of whom were/are habitual liars but not even on the same planet as DJT.

              3. My Esoteric profile image89
                My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                Because that would have been part of the extensive narrative on McCarthy, and it wasn't.

            2. Live to Learn profile image81
              Live to Learnposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              I'd have to question the veracity of that. Prior to the internet, few words of politicians were easily available to the masses. I doubt you heard 2% of everything Eisenhower uttered.

    2. PrettyPanther profile image83
      PrettyPantherposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Hes a disgusting embarrassment. I think we should hold him to that 10% raise that he is on record as supporting. Chuck and Nancy should propose it.

    3. Sharif Mustajib profile image55
      Sharif Mustajibposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Trump is a peculiar person don't know what to talk!

  2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image96
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 weeks ago

    This poster isn't someone a body should ever take seriously. Politics are for adults, persons who've experienced real things, and have the ability to think deeply about stuff.  This post seems aimed at children. Like a CNN post would be.

    1. PrettyPanther profile image83
      PrettyPantherposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Y'all have become so ridiculous all I can do is laugh at the lot of you.

    2. My Esoteric profile image89
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I can tell you are a very deep thinker given you will follow Trump to hell (but not back).  There is a reason why more college educated folk voted for someone else other than Trump.

    3. MizBejabbers profile image91
      MizBejabbersposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      You mean like a Fox newscast of fake news?

 
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