Is the Sitting President, Donald Trump, a Russian Asset?

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  1. My Esoteric profile image89
    My Esotericposted 6 months ago

    Former Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe said on CNN's Anderson Cooper when asked if Donald Trump was a Russian asset.

    His answer was - "It's possible" saying that is why the counterintelligence case was opened.

    Much to do will be made about him being a so-called "known liar" (without mentioning the 8,000+ documented false and misleading statements made by Trump). But, that isn't really true is it?  The FBI IG said he didn't tell the truth about leaking information to the media.  McCabe disputes this.  Since there has been no trial to determine who is right, he must be presumed to NOT have lied.

    Beyond that, however, even if McCabe had lied, all that is needed to substantiate his claims in THIS case is corroborating evidence about the things he said led the FBI to open an investigation on Trump.  Guess what, there is plenty of that to go around.

    As to the term "asset".  That doesn't mean Trump is a willing or even knowing participant; that has yet to be determined.  All it means is that the Russian are using him to their advantage. Nothing more than that.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      I'd have to say that Trump is less of an "asset" than the tens of thousands of people that repeated the "fake" posts the Russians put on social media.  Or that believed them, for that matter.

      Perhaps we should open an investigation into everyone that re-posted one of the posts from Russia?  We would absolutely find a whole myriad of crimes, from both the posters and anyone connected to them, if we did!

      1. My Esoteric profile image89
        My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        None of them are sitting in the Oval office pretending to be the President of the United States.  HE is the only one that matters for this issue.

        1. MizBejabbers profile image90
          MizBejabbersposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          And that is true. Stupidity has never been outlawed (in reference to those who pass on the fake posts).

          1. My Esoteric profile image89
            My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            :-)

        2. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Ah.  The job one holds determines whether they should follow laws or be investigated for Russian influence then. 

          Can't say I agree with that.  Not for a moment.

          1. My Esoteric profile image89
            My Esotericposted 5 months agoin reply to this

            Use your head, Wilderness. The president is not just another person and if ANYONE ought to follow laws, he should - and this one doesn't. 

            BTW, when is the last time you sped and broke the law?

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 5 months agoin reply to this

              As far as I know Donald Trump has broken no laws since taking office.  Or before, either - I have yet to see him convicted of anything, anywhere.  In that respect the claim that he doesn't follow laws is no more true than the comment that he is only pretending to be president.

              When you say things like that any truth you might have alongside the lies are lost in the fog.  You might want to consider that - when you wish to belittle someone you might want to stay away from false statements.  The only thing they accomplish is to make YOU look small.

              The last time I was issued a speeding ticket was in 1974, when the entire nation suddenly went to the "double nickel".  You?

              1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
                JAKE Earthshineposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                Unfortunately, you are incorrect wilderness, here's just one law Bozo Trump has broken and it's ONLY our constitution, the ORIGINAL Anti-Corruption law: When you accept gifts and or money from foreign countries which includes our enemies, you have committed a crime against the United States according to the highest law in the land:

                This is just ONE example of many this clown has perpetrated and he should have been imprisoned for it immediately after he was sworn in as this nightmare of an impostor president:

                "Emoluments Lawsuit Against Trump Can Go Forward, Judge Says"

                https://www.npr.org/2018/11/03/66393306 … judge-says

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                  Unfortunately, any president (that's pretty much all of them in the last 100 years) that owns a share of stock in any country operating internationally has violated that clause, when interpreted as you do.  As no other president has been considered a criminal as a result, neither can Trump.

                  Yes, I know there are multiple lawsuits by idiot liberals claiming Trump did this or did that.  Fortunately that does not indicate guilt; it indicates that some people prefer to use our justice system to further their political goals.  Just like the travel ban that was challenged and that SCOTUS found quite all right.

                  I expect Trump will fight, and we will pay the cost of, dozens of lawsuits over the next 6 years and beyond.  It is what our political system has become; if you don't like something, SUE!  If you have no chance of winning that's all right; If nothing else perhaps you can drag it out until the whole thing becomes moot, just like the insurance companies do when denying needed treatment.  It is a tried and true tactic: sue over anything President Trump does as an impediment to his performing his lawful duties.

                  1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
                    JAKE Earthshineposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                    OWNING stock is NOT a direct payment of money from foreign entities as Bozo Trump receives through properties that slapped his name on them and furthermore, all prior REAL presidents who pledges allegiance to the USA, had divested to AVOID even the appearance of committing a criminal act against our constitution:

                    There are very good reasons WHY a sitting president, even an absurdly incompetent, incoherent public communist russian appeaser such as this one, are PROHIBITED from receiving gifts and money from foreign countries including our enemies, and you are finding out those reasons in SPADES almost every day:

                  2. Ewent profile image86
                    Ewentposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                    None of 44 other presidents were ever accused of money laundering, bilking charities or defrauding students like Trump at Trump University.

                    What does it take for Trump supporters to realize they are living in some "alternate reality?"

              2. My Esoteric profile image89
                My Esotericposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                Your funny, Wilderdess.  That's like saying "as for as you know Hitler didn't exterminate the Jews". 

                At the very least he is very likely guilty of federal campaign violations as a conspirator with Cohen.  That one is just waiting for him to leave the presidency and get indicted on it.  Then there are a few investigations by the SDNY and the State of NY AG into Trump's campaign, businesses and foundations (which has already agreed to a plea deal, I think).  Oh yeah, now Trump's inaugural committee is under investigation for a multitude of potential crimes.

                And then there is Trump U which settled for defrauding a whole bunch of people.  Or how about all of those workers and suppliers he stiffed over the last several decades.  You are correct, Trump has never been tried and convicted (he either settles or goes bankrupt), but then neither was O.J. Simpson - at least of a double murder.

                As to so-called "false statements", I didn't make any, yet Trump issues 11 a day, on average, but for some odd reason, you don't mind that.  Why is that??

              3. Valeant profile image95
                Valeantposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                Considering he was named Individual-1 as an non-indictable co-conspirator in a felony case where Cohen pleaded guilty, I'd say that was proof he committed a crime to get elected.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                  Lots of people will say that, yes.  Because a single individual said so - no need for evidence, no need for a trial, no need for anything but a single unsupported claim of malfeasance.

                  Accepting such as proof is one of the biggest things wrong in our gullible population.  If we don't like them they are guilty until proven innocent.

                  1. Valeant profile image95
                    Valeantposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                    There is literally audio of Trump telling Cohen to make the illegal payment.  When the guilty man's own words are not proof enough for his followers, we call that complete brainwashing.

              4. Ewent profile image86
                Ewentposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                How would you know if he has? He isn't a stupid man. He knows what to keep secret and what to Tweet.

                He came into office with a 2013 money laundering fine from FinCEN of the US Treasury. He was warned 3 times to stop the money laundering in the NJ Taj Mahal Casino. He refused and got a $10 million fine.

                He also continued to keep monies he was collecting from dozens of charities, one of them a veterans charity when the SDNY banned Trump organization from taking money for any future charities and he got another fine. That was in 2018. During his presidency.

            2. Ewent profile image86
              Ewentposted 5 months agoin reply to this

              The worst is that Trump has had so many back pocket judges in NY who put other mobsters in prison for the same things they let Trump get away with.

              Why else would he want Kavanaugh on the SC? He chose Gorsuch because of his connections to Big Oil. But, Kavanaugh is another matter entirely.

              Here in NJ, Trump's union employees sued him for back wages he owed. Kavanaugh was the judge hearing that case. He ruled in Trump's favor.

              It cannot also be a coincidence that Trump in 2017 was in an awful hurry to replace federal judges.

              Look at how many have gotten caught in lies for Trump. If he didn't have something to hide, they wouldn't need to lie for him.

              No US court will accept Conway's version of "alternate facts."

          2. Ewent profile image86
            Ewentposted 5 months agoin reply to this

            The job one holds should be already within Constitutional laws. What kind of individual takes a job and then has to ask if following the law is valid?

            Most of us in the NY/NJ Metro area have far too much Trump knowledge to not be able to put the players in the Trump jigsaw puzzle together.

            Lavrov is on his way to Viet Nam to meet with Trump and KJU of North Korea. Why? Kliminik and Trump's "good friend" as Trump himself called him, Roger Stone, were meeting in 2016 during the election. Coincidence? Who is the link to Roger Stone?

            All Americans want the assurance when we vote there is NO foreign influence. Anyone who runs for office in the US knows the FEC rules.

        3. Ewent profile image86
          Ewentposted 5 months agoin reply to this

          Good point. Very appropriate..

      2. MizBejabbers profile image90
        MizBejabbersposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Hey, they're still doing it. I hate to say that I have relatives and friends dumb enough to keep at it, but I do. Every now and then I remind them of what they are doing, but hey, everybody can't have an IQ over 100, I guess.

    2. Ewent profile image86
      Ewentposted 5 months agoin reply to this

      This assumes that Trump doesn't make his own decisions about who he wants to associate with.

      Can Russians really "use" Trump with all we know about his ability to micro manage everything in his life?

      I don't consider Trump anyone's asset but his own. But then, I do live in NJ and his reputation in the NY/NJ Metro area precedes him.

    3. Sharlee01 profile image86
      Sharlee01posted 5 months agoin reply to this

      "Is the Sitting President, Donald Trump, a Russian Asset?"
      I have one question in regards to your original question.
      What do you feel Russia has gained in the past two years under the Trump presidency? We the citizens have paid for an investigation to make an attempt to uncover any wrongdoings that Trump may have with Russia. Why not wait to see the report. Oh, forgot we know have the Dems proceeding with a new investigation. Guess we now will have to await the outcome of that one...

  2. Live to Learn profile image83
    Live to Learnposted 5 months ago

    Are the left manipulated by Russian trolls?

    1. My Esoteric profile image89
      My Esotericposted 5 months agoin reply to this

      Are you manipulated by advertisements?  Have you EVER bought something because you saw an ad for it?

      Everybody is subject to propaganda, those that lack critical thinking abilities often fall for it, those that have it sometimes fall for it.

      1. Live to Learn profile image83
        Live to Learnposted 5 months agoin reply to this

        I think I have always been averse to the idea of being manipulated by ads. I'm the type who says if you want to advertise on my t shirt you should pay me to wear it. I shouldn't have to pay you.

  3. Live to Learn profile image83
    Live to Learnposted 5 months ago

    If wishes were fishes you guys who desperately want to believe Trump is guilty, without evidence presented yet, and want to believe he's a lying Russian agent would have sushi for life by now.

    1. Valeant profile image95
      Valeantposted 5 months agoin reply to this

      What does it say about the rule of law in the United States when the GOP in Congress won't support impeachment proceedings against a man who committed two felonies to get elected?

      1. Live to Learn profile image83
        Live to Learnposted 5 months agoin reply to this

        Has he been tried or convicted of committing 2 felonies? I hadn't heard that. Not sure how I could have missed it, if true.

        1. Valeant profile image95
          Valeantposted 5 months agoin reply to this

          Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. It does not mean removal from office; it is only a statement of charges.  Considering the southern district of NY basically named Trump as an Non-indictable co-conspirator due to his election to office, impeachment is the process to determine his guilt.

          1. Live to Learn profile image83
            Live to Learnposted 5 months agoin reply to this

            Lol. I didn't ask what impeachment was. I'll check into your claim. If he has been convicted of two felonies I'll agree that he should be impeached. If not, it'll still be wishful thinking on your part.

            1. Valeant profile image95
              Valeantposted 5 months agoin reply to this

              Since people are not sure that a sitting president can be indicted, impeachment is the process used to determine if elected officials should remain in office.  Once out of office, he could be charged and tried for his crimes.  In this instance, Trump has been named as a co-conspirator to the crimes Cohen was found guilty of by Cohen, and by the audio tape where you hear him order Cohen to make the payments on his behalf.

              1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
                JAKE Earthshineposted 5 months agoin reply to this

                Valeant: If there was ever an EMERGENCY Crisis to Indict a sitting president this is it in SPADES: DOJ "Policy" doesn't dictate who can or cannot be indicted for crimes, our constitution does, whatever's left of it and this utter INSANITY that the so called leader of the USA could quite conceivably be under the thumb of our arch enemy Vladimir Putin according to top intelligence agencies is nothing less than SHOCKING:

          2. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 5 months agoin reply to this

            You can't have it both ways ; either impeachment is the leveling of charges or it is a trial to determine if those charges are true (determination of guilt)

            Factually and technically, the House impeaches (levels the charges) and the Senate determines guilt.  They are separate. 

            That a district of NY named Trump as a conspirator means nothing in this context, and is not an impeachment.  Only the House of Representatives may "impeach" (level charges) of the president.  Not a state, not a district, not a member of congress, not the public.  Only the House, and they do not determine guilt - only make accusations.

            " It is the constitutional process, not the conviction or removal from office, whereby the House of Representatives may "impeach" (accuse of misconduct) high officers of the federal government for trial in the Senate."

            https://definitions.uslegal.com/i/impeachment/

            “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”

            Article II Section 4 US constitution.

  4. GA Anderson profile image92
    GA Andersonposted 5 months ago

    Now you can see it Grasshopper.

    I tried to offer complimentary tickets 18 months ago. What many only saw as a seat on the fence can now be seen as a ringside luxury box. Even close enough for a little blood splatter from some of the better bouts.

    GA

  5. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
    JAKE Earthshineposted 5 months ago

    This is nothing less than "Bone CHILLING" to the core: Hillary hits the NAIL on the orange head and PREDICTED with amazing accuracy what Comrade Bozo Trump stands for, and what his agenda truly is and it's obviously NOT a public allegiance to the USA:

    Hey last remaining trump followers, when are you gonna' start believing your OWN eyes and ears instead of an elderly 72 year old bamboozler who is hell bent on dismantling NATO and the USA at what appears to be Vladimir Putin's COMMAND?

    Hillary NAILS Bozo and then Bozo comes back with his brilliant response like "Duh Ummm..... No Puppet No Puppet.....Ahhhhh... Duh..... ummmm.. You're the Puppet....." IMPEACH & INDICT NOW:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qIN1-z_JqQ

 
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