Will the Coronavirus be Trump's Hurricane Katrina?

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   crankaliciousposted 4 years ago

   First, it's really too early to tell, so this is entirely speculation.
   
   Second, I honestly think there wasn't/isn't much President Trump can do to stop the spread of a virus of this type. Sure, not cutting funding for the agencies tasked with solving such crises is one thing he could have done, but overall, pandemics of this nature are hard to stop. What I'm saying is that, short of over-preparing for some unknown contagion, a President doesn't have a lot of power to stop such things.
   
   That all said, what people expect during times such as these is leadership. They expect the President to consult his experts, put them in charge of the response, and then to reassure the American people that everything possible is being done to solve the problem.
   
   What they do not want is constant misinformation, guessing, lying, and blaming others for everything that goes wrong. They do not want the President to focus on his poll numbers and keep a scorecard of how many dead we have compared to other countries.
   
   Usually, when these challenges hit a Presidency, it becomes a true measuring stick. This isn't an attack on the President by the Democrats. This is something President Trump is facing and whether he does it well or poorly, his response will change how Americans see him.

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      IslandBitesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      He already has a Katrina...
      
      But we dont count, so yeah, maybe coronavirus it is.

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         peoplepower73posted 4 years agoin reply to this

         This is the point where real science and health expertise are going to bite him in the butt with his hunches and all his happy talk.  He can't use deal making and his attorney's to make the virus go away and fix the stock market.  However, his base could care less about science and real economics.  They will believe anything he and fox news says.

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      Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I agree he will be judged by how this plays out. But, I hope the public will remember the media and Democrat outrage, screaming he was xenophobic when he immediately enforced a travel ban. Had we backed that and questioned if we needed more done to combat a potential spread I do wonder how we would stand at this point.

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         crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         He imposed a travel ban and it spread anyway.
         
         Most experts I watched said a travel ban was pointless and actually could hurt efforts because we would be unable to figure out where people contracted the virus since people with the virus would get into the country by other means.
         
         Isn't that precisely what happened in Washington?
         
         Again, not sure it matters since nothing Trump did or didn't do would make a whole lot of difference. However, listening to your scientists is usually a good idea.

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            Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I guess the experts disagree. One's I've heard praised the move as a way to create time to prepare. It's moot,anyway. It's here.
            
            Best we can do is keep our heads and hope for the best.

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               crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               And wash our hands correctly and regularly...
               
               And not cough on other people.

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                  Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  It's amazing we have to point that out.

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                     crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Unfortunately, the same "scientists" who are pushing the hand-washing thing are the same ones pushing the climate change hoax, so it's hard to know whether they're just lying to us again to increase soap sales.

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                        peoplepower73posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Crank:  So the scientist at the CDC are also pushing "the climate change hoax" ? And they are doing it to increase the sale of soap as well? 
                        
                        Here is something that is not a hoax:  Trump wants to get temporary tax cuts for hourly workers.  But only until after the elections in November.  There is only one reason for it to end in November, it's to increase Trump's numbers for re-election.
                        
                        And what he calls tax cuts are really cuts in social security and medicare for hourly workers.  It's just another way for the GOP to cut back what they call "entitlements." How many hourly workers are going to invest in the stock market?

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                           crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           I was being facetious. Why would a Trump supporter believe any scientist about anything when they're all liars and pushing climate change to benefit themselves financially?
                           
                           This whole hand-washing thing is perpetrated by the makers of hand soap and hand sanitizer, right?

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                              peoplepower73posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Crank:  Sorry!!!  Sometimes it's hard to tell satire from reality, especially in this day and age.

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                                 MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Yes, but y'all left out the run on toilet paper.

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                           Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           And here we go again.
                           
                           https://www.washingtonpost.com/business … ick-leave/
                           
                           Paid sick leave for hourly workers as part of the things to help during the corona virus.
                           
                           But, orange man bad. Let's pretend it's political so we can all enjoy an outrage.

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                              promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              The paid sick leave is being proposed by a Democrat, according to the article.
                              
                              Most of the article is about Trump's desire to kill the payroll tax -- which would create a $1 trillion hole in Medicare and Social Security. Better yet, Trump would save millions in taxes on his hotels and casinos.
                              
                              He also is proposing federal bailout money for the hotel industry. That means he wants the government to bail out his resorts with your tax dollars.
                              
                              Yep, orange man bad.

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                                 PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Thank you.

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                                    promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    You're welcome! Trump fanatics really hate facts, don't they?

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                                       peoplepower73posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       After Trump's speech tonight about the virus, it's clear he and his administration do not have the capacity to lead us out of this crisis.  Trump and his people are nothing more than money changers.  That's all they know. 
                                       
                                       He has surrounded himself with yes men who practice group think. And that is very dangerous in a situation like this.  There is no diversity in his administration.  You are either loyal to Trump and agree with him or you are out the door.
                                       
                                       He needs to gather a task force of diverse experts and the brightest in epidemiology and crisis management.  But his focus is on bringing back the stock market so that he can get re-elected.  He is even proposing cutting social security and medicare for hourly workers.  That is a thinly disguised ploy for cutting back on their social security benefits.
                                       
                                       That's all he knows is how to attack his opponents, make deals, lie, and tweet.  He doesn't have a clue of how to deal with this crisis which according to all experts is going to get worse everyday.
                                       
                                       And all fox news knows is how to attack liberals and support Trump.  Trump is truly the fake news with all his happy talk about the virus. What he says is not even consistent with what the experts are claiming.  But of course he says he has a natural ability about everything including this virus.
                                       
                                       https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho … s-n1153061
                                       
                                       https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/ … 2484610048

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                                          MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          This morning it was said on TV that Trump is running scared. He was exposed to the virus, and at first, he poo-pooed it as always. But now that a Brazilian official exposed at the same time has tested positive, some folks say he is running scared. Maybe that's what it takes to bring him down to earth. However, this story tonight says that he still is refusing to be tested. Well, ya just can't fix stupid.
                                          
                                          https://news.yahoo.com/trump-met-someon … 21552.html

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                                       crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Anybody who would say they have a "natural ability" to deal with virus outbreaks is otherwise known as an "idiot".

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                                       crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       And he continues to lie about testing and about people getting treatment for free.

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                                          peoplepower73posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          I believe Trump suffers from many psychological problems and one of them is the Dunning Kruger Effect.  It's where people believe they are experts about topics they no nothing about, but they are too ignorant of the given topic to realize they no nothing about it. 
                                          
                                          That's why Trump makes statements like he knows more about the virus than the experts, because he has a natural ability for such things and is a stable genius.

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                                 Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 In a bipartisan worldone would be happy that,if a Democrat had a good idea, a Republican was happy to go along with it. But, apparently, that's a world you find distasteful.
                                 
                                 And Trump doesn't own every hotel. I guess orange man bad extends to anyone has to be bad who might benefit from any help bad orange man and his administration attempt to think about in a crisis.
                                 
                                 I hear you loud and clear. I know, you think a senile old lecher who is in the pocket of the credit card industry and spearheaded the change in bankruptcy laws,to the detriment of the middle class, and has a penchant for cursing at voters is a much better option.
                                 
                                 Forgive me if I just do an eye roll and move on.

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                                    promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    That's a sad evasion of the facts in my post.
                                    
                                    It's obvious you didn't even read the article.

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      MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      As someone has pointed out, he already has a Katrina. I predict this will be his Waterloo. In addition to all his Pollyanna talk about the virus not being anything to worry about, he told worried people to go back to work. After a public outcry, including this being disputed by medical authorities, he backpedaled faster than a Louisiana crawdad and said that he meant "work at home". To "go" anywhere would mean leaving home, so that ole dog don't hunt."  Once again his gunpowder mouth overloaded his powderpuff a$$ as we say in my neck of the woods. But at least we know an honest man when we hear one, and we ain't heard one in the Whitehouse in a long time. Seems like the stock market staying down overrides anything he has to say anymore. Financial experts are predicting that we are headed into a bear market.
      
      Meanwhile, Congressmen Ted Cruz and Matt Gaetz have gone into self-quarantine because they say they came in contact with a CPAC attendee who tested positive for COVID-19. However, the experts say that they should have exhibited symptoms by this time if they had the virus. We wish them well.
      
      https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coro … index.html

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   Shrikant6989posted 4 years ago

   I dont think that the Coronavirus would play any significant role in the US elections.

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