Is this "man" insane?!
Donald J. Trump
Biden/Obama were a disaster in handling the H1N1 Swine Flu. Polling at the time showed disastrous approval numbers. 17,000 people died unnecessarily and through incompetence! Also, don’t forget their 5 Billion Dollar Obamacare website that should have cost close to nothing!
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1. Approval numbers?!
2. Do you really want to compare numbers?!
3. There are people dying, the country (and world) is FU and he is still obsessing with Obama?!
I think, if many in the media would stop obsessing over Trump and try to work together to bring us back together, instead of incessantly trying to nit pick we might have a different scenario.
Or maybe we wouldn't. But, at least, we wouldn't have reason to doubt your assessment.
Most media outlets aren't interested in reporting the news. They're only interested in pushing agendas of whatever political party butters their bread, and gaining the most views as possible. While I'm not a big Trump supporter, I will agree with him that the media is biased, and usually aren't interested in reporting the facts most of the time.
Is it the media's job to bring us together? I thought it was the president's job, especially during a time of crisis.
Oh well, silly me.
Ideally, the media is supposed to report nothing but the facts, while taking a nonpartisan stance on all issues they report on. But as we both know, the media isn't interested in that most of the time, and will usually twist the story to whatever narrative fits the agenda that their corporate masters want them to push, while also coming up with whatever headlines will generate the most views regardless of the facts. That's why you can't trust most media sources these days.
I graduated journalism school many years ago.
I can remember during my class on reporting a professor saying "It is your job as a reporter to present all the facts of a story and let the reader decide."
I don't think that happens anymore.
Sadly it doesn't. So called journalism is very partial to the point of being subjective in scope. Th 1970s was the last decade of objective journalism. Nowadays, reporters & journalists subject their personal opinion when they report news. It's isn't the news, it is the reporter who reports.
It is clear today we have very few reporters that are actually journalism, most are talk jocks, and they lean one way or the other, they promote their own bias agendas. No two sides to any story.
This is pretty much correct. News reporting is, to a great degree, opinion reporting. Even stories claiming to be news are just opinion pieces.
For anyone to suggest news should be unbiased is naive. News is a business and each news organization is serving its customers like any business. Fox News became popular because they tapped into people who wanted a different kind of news that catered to their opinions.
I think how news organizations report the news is a reflection of us, not a reflection of something inherently wrong with the news organizations themselves. News organizations are selling themselves to advertisers. Unbiased news doesn't seem to appeal to anyone anymore. Everyone just seems to want validation of opinions already formed.
I must agree with your view in regards to media being a business that caters to its viewers. I think most media strive to dish up whatever they think their audience craves. They care little about context, in fact it appears they have become masters at disguising context. I truly believe this shabby media reporting has brought about the "great divide". And yes sadly it well appears unbiased news does not appeal to many as it did some years ago.
I have heard it stated that in the 'past' news divisions were viewed as a service of the networks, and now they are demanded to 'pay their way' as in they are viewed as profit or loss segments just like Real Housewives' or 'Who Wants to Be a Millionaire'.
'If it bleeds it leads' might be an ageless trope, but in our times I think it says it all relative to the purpose of news coverage.
Totally agree. I must share, and it is moving a bit off subject. However, I know you will realize my point.
Yesterday I was watching one of the three News networks, they were discussing the unmasking of General Fylnn. There were three on the panel talking about the call between Flynn-Kislyak and referring to that this being reason and actually justifying the Obama administration unmasked Fylnn. One journalist on the panel stated, after reading the newly unredacted information I discovered Fylnn was unmasked several times, by several government officials long before the Kislyak call...
The other two on the panel did not address his comment. One could have heard a pin drop. The talk jock flipped to another subject. The expressions on their face said it all. They looked like deers that just encountered very bright headlights. However, one looked like a true well-educated journalist. No, bias, no towing a network line. Just a journalist prepared with the facts on a story he was covering. He bucked his peers, and OMG was I pleased. He stepped out of the groupthink circle. Hopefully, he will stand his ground, and his kind of honesty will be catchy.
Unfortunately if he stands his ground it will not be from the news table for he will not have a job.
Well, I have found some other reports on the all-important timeline. I just know Flynn's Attorney Sidney Powel has it in her back pocket. You can bet she will be filing several lawsuits against many of the Obamagate players. Got to give it to Trump, he sure can turn a catchy phrase.
Maybe we can finally get to the bottom of Obama's fake birth certificate too!
Not possible. I spotted it on the ET's ship when they took me for the annual probing.
Another failure of Trump's, forgiven by his adoring fans. Those lawyers he sent to Hawaii didn't find a thing.
Nothing? Like those looking for collusion with Putin or even the Ukraine president? That kind of nothing?
I'd have to say there are very much the same. All three made up stories in order to remove a political competitor from the scene, all three proven false to fact. What else is there to consider?
This is an example of why I fear for our country.
Pizzagate was a really good turn of phrase too.
And when are we putting Hillary Clinton in jail?
Me, too. Our Glorious Leaders have descended into a political pit the likes of which we have never seen before, and I don't see it ending.
But for someone declaring that we need to do everything legally possible (such as a faux impeachment) to remove Trump from his elected political office I have to say that I'm not sure why it would bother you.
I understand your position, Wilderness, but I think PP's point is that your equivalence makes no logical sense.
If you don't agree with the reasons for Trump's impeachment, that's fine, but I would equate Trump's impeachment with Clinton's. There was clear evidence for both. Clinton lied under oath. Trump threatened to withhold aid to a foreign country unless they investigated his political rival. You may not like the outcome of either, but there's clear, factual evidence to support the outcome.
I would equate questioning whether Obama was born in the U.S. with suggesting that he's an alien from another planet sent here to destroy the earth. There's no evidence for either claim.
To say there's an equivalence between an assertion without any evidence or merit with one that has clear evidence and merit that you may not agree with makes it impossible to have a rational discussion about anything.
"There was clear evidence for both."
Unfortunately we differ right here, for the only evidence was from people mad at Trump, giving their opinion as to what he did and why. As far as I'm concerned that is worse than not testifying at all. On top of that, it is very odd, to me, that Trump may not investigate a political rival for wrongdoing while virtually every Democrat in the House not only did exactly that but declared that those opinions were a valid reason to impeach him.
And that doesn't even begin to address the absolutely false claims of collusion with Putin or the use of the FBI to achieve the goal of having him removed from office.
So yes, I find the two just about the same; political games being played to cause harm to a rival when there was nothing of substance or truth to support the claims. The only thing that could have been worse was for Republicans to secretly demand that the CIA find (or produce) Nigerian "evidence" of foreign birth.
Trump can investigate whoever he wants and if he wants to investigate Joe Biden, he's free to do so. Again, your argument makes no sense.
What a President may not do is threaten to withhold Congressionally approved funds from a foreign government in exchange for the investigation of a political rival. This is why he was impeached.
The mental gymnastics required to convince oneself that birtherism is the same as a congressional investigation must be agonizing and painful.
I see Trump as a clear and present danger to our country, as much of a danger as a foreign enemy. He is mentally ill, incompetent, corrupt, and void of compassion or empathy. I recognize that you don't see him that way. By way of comparison, even though I thought GWB was a terrible president, I didn't see him as a danger to the very existence of our country.
I want my elected officials to do everything they can to stop the lying POS from destroying us.
I fear it might already be too late. And your ridiculous belief that legitimate inquiries conducted according to the laws set forth by our constitution are equivalent to Trump's promotiom of birtherism only strengthens my fear that it might be too late,
Trump has normalized stupidity.
"I fear it might already be too late. And your ridiculous belief that legitimate inquiries conducted according to the laws set forth by our constitution are equivalent to Trump's promotiom of birtherism only strengthens my fear that it might be too late"
I fear that this most appropriate comment falls on deaf ears, like beating a dead horse?
He's also normalized the acceptance of any conspiracy theory as having merit no matter how outlandish. If Trump insisted Obama was an alien from Mars, his supporters would believe it.
Some of them would. Some of them believe the COVID19 vaccination will actually be a vehicle for microchipping them. They also think the tests currently being done are actually infecting them with the virus.
No lie. For real. These are people who supposedly have a thinking brain.
Put away your fear PrettyPanther, this has been SOP, 9Standard Operating Procedure), in politics since the 18th century. Same ol'-same ol' we'll get through it.
Some facts about Michael Flynn:
In 2014, Flynn was forced out of his position as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). As Colin Powell later described it in a leaked email, Flynn was “Abusive with staff, didn’t listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc. He has been and was right-wing nutty [ever] since.”
As The Post reported, “Former subordinates at the DIA said Flynn was so prone to dubious pronouncements that senior aides coined a term — ‘Flynn facts’ — for assertions that seemed questionable or inaccurate.”
The New York Times reported that some insiders “described him as a Captain Queeg-like character, paranoid that his staff members were undercutting him and credulous of conspiracy theories.”
Flynn insisted that he was removed not for his erratic mismanagement but because his superiors didn’t agree with his warnings about the danger of radical Islam. He later gave speeches claiming that Democrats were installing Sharia law at the state and local level.
Flynn once tweeted that “Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL.” He has said Islam is “a malignant cancer” that “hides behind this notion of it being a religion.”
Flynn used his social media accounts to spread lunatic conspiracy theories that Hillary Clinton was involved in a child sex-trafficking, that President Barack Obama was a “jihadi,” that Clinton’s campaign manager conducted occult rituals, and that the United Nations was plotting to install a one-world government.
Flynn was paid $45,000 to appear at a 2015 gala in celebration of Russian propaganda network RT (he sat at Vladimir Putin’s table during the dinner). Former senior military officials are supposed to receive Pentagon permission before accepting such payments; Flynn apparently did not.
While working as an adviser to the Trump campaign in 2016, Flynn was also secretly working on behalf of the Turkish government, being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to advocate Turkey’s interests. This consisted, in large part, of seeking to discredit Fethullah Gulen, a dissident Turkish cleric now living in the United States. On Election Day in 2016, Flynn wrote an op-ed for the Hill blasting Gulen and praising Turkey, but did not disclose that he was being paid to do so.
Flynn also failed to register as a foreign agent as required by law, only doing so retroactively after he was fired as national security adviser in 2017.
In 2015, Flynn was paid by an American company seeking to partner with Russian interests to build nuclear power plants in the Middle East; in his security clearance documents, he failed to disclose a trip he took to work on the plan. In his brief time as national security adviser, he then promoted the plan inside the White House.
During the transition after the 2016 election, Flynn maneuvered to delay a U.S. military operation against the Islamic State, an operation Turkey opposed because it involved a partnership between the U.S. and Kurdish forces.
When Obama and Trump met in the Oval Office days after the election, Obama warned the president-elect that giving Flynn a high-ranking job in the administration was a terrible idea, which turned out to be right. Trump didn’t listen.
Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his conversations with the Russian ambassador, during which Flynn negotiated with the ambassador over sanctions the Obama administration had imposed as punishment for Russian interference in the 2016 election.
The fact that Attorney General William P. Barr made an extraordinary and unprecedented effort to drop the case after Flynn pleaded guilty does not change the fact that Flynn lied to the FBI, and also lied to Vice President Pence about his conversations with Russian officials, leading Pence to then repeat Flynn’s lie on television.
According to then-White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, when he told Trump about Flynn’s lies, Trump replied, “Not again, this guy, this stuff.” Those lies were the reason Trump gave for firing him.
Not sure if you are following the news. Flynn has been exonerated. And I have to say ---Why in the world would have Trump taken any advice from Obama? Plus, so much more news, why do you feel the need to dredge up all the old allegations. Hey, we have a new scandal Obamagate.
It is the presidents job to bring us together as a nation.
And that of the media. And Congress. And the states. And the school teachers. And the colleges.
And it is the job of every single citizen of the country, to make a single, cohesive nation.
Are your comments and efforts designed to build a single nation, or are they designed to split it into competing factions?
No, it is not the job of the media and the school teachers and the colleges, etc., nor is it the job of individual citizens. If the president had a job description, "bringing the nation together' would be in it. It is ridiculous to say it is my job or your job or a teacher's job,
It is our duty, however, to select the best person for the job of president, the person who is tasked with bringing us together.
I don't think we did so well this last time around.
It's the media's job to report balanced and unbiased news. Not use click bait tactics meant to deceive in order to pull money in.
Sure, but he said it is the media's job to bring us together. That is what I am disagreeing with.
To get the picture. A little maths:
The USA has a population of some 330 mill. With a life expectancy of 80 years and 365 days/year every day some 11.300 people die. That i would call natural mortality.
Now: If Covid 19 currently takes 3.200 deaths per day, then this accounts for 30% of the natural mortality, nationwide, on top. You can do your own maths on the State of NY or NYC.
This is the situation. Fact, my own maths, no Twitter, no media, no nothing besides common sense.
Currently Corona takes in one day the total death toll of US Irak war periods 1991 or 2003. With this in mind it is a little inappropriate to compare numbers or print a name on checks.
As with any fact, it can be manipulated. Let me give an example: With my little maths on relative Corona mortality i could say: Life expectancy in the US has dropped some 30%. Of course that would be wrong, but this little example explains how statistics can be manipulated by the media, politics, no matter of what political color.
When we hear someone speak, our human brains automatically sense what is reason and what is not. When President Obama gives a speech, you are able to make sense of it all. There is no mistaking what he means or what he is communicating.
When Trump speaks there is no rhyme or reason to any of his words. What on earth is a COVFEFE?
If I were Trump, I'd be ashamed of my inability to spell better than a 3rd grader. Worse is that fact that there is no mental reasoning to anything he says.
He is accustomed to eyeballing words he needs to push his agenda. He doesn't take any time for studying anything which is why he loathes experts in health, science and law.
He detests authority and has since he was very young. Thus, he feels an entitlement to break any laws he pleases.
Trump is a figment of his own imagination. But like all fairy tales, he attracts those who live in fairyland, not reality where mental reasoning is essential.
This idea of an unbiased and factual media is subjective. If you don't like the facts or are slavishly devoted to one side or point of view anything that suggest the contrary has to be fake?
So, Trump says something idiotic, no matter what, and is the media's fault? Oh OK.
1. That's a direct tweet.
2. Trump is obsessed with Obama since B.O. was president.
3. Issues with approval/ recognition are a constant in most of DT (public) life.
How dare the media use his own exact words to misconstrue the meaning of what he said!
Not sure I should add my two cents... However, does anyone consider we are in the middle of a presidential election year? Biden a day or so ago lobbed some pretty derogatory insults at Trump. Inferring Trump handled the virus crisis badly and claimed: "Trump was hiding from his responsibilities." Trump is in campaign mode, he can walk and chew gum.
I knew a doozy of a Trump tweet would be coming after Biden's insult. And yeah, here it is. Trump will fight fire with fire. This will be such an ugly campaign. Why would anyone even think Trump wouldn't go after, Biden, and Obama's years in the WH. Just as Biden is attacking Trump's Presidency. Come on it goes both ways... I don't think Trump will not ignore one remark from Biden or any Dems. They go low he will go lower. Just saying. He is not your typical Republican, now is he? He is the Dems worse nightmare, he is an old school Democrat that turned Republican.
Okay, you're fine with his daily lies. Gotcha!
But I agree with you on one point, no one can go lower than the Don. Something for you to be proud of, but something many of us on the Left abhor.
I know an older lady Trump voter who no longer watches the briefings because of things like this. In fact, she says she cannot vote for Trump in the next election after watching how he's handled himself during this crisis. Her husband may not feel the same, but it isn't going to take many like this to make Trump lose a fair election by a large margin.
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