U.S. Stuck with 63 Million Doses of Hydroxychloroquine

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   crankaliciousposted 3 years ago

   Hmmm, President recommends an unproven drug.
   
   FDA ramps up production to support him.
   
   Drug proves useless and even damaging.
   
   Now we have a lot of this drug we don't need. Imagine all the time and money wasted on this.

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      MizBejabbersposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      And to think that a lot of people who have been properly prescribed this drug for a true medical condition have been fearful that there would be a rush on it, and they would not be able to get it. I've seen several comment that their life or a loved one's life depends on it.
      I'll bet that cuts the profit margins of certain big pharma. Serves 'em right.

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         crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         People who suffer from Lupus, which I think the drug treats, are probably rejoicing. I bet they destroy most of it though.

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            wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            My wife takes it for arthritis, and there are other diseases helped by it as well.
            
            Perhaps any excess can be distributed free of charge.  If there truly is any - I have no idea how long it lasts and it IS of value to many people.

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               crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Great publicity if they give it away.

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               Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Hydroxychloroquine was donated to the National stockpile. The "HHS is currently working with the companies that donated the product to determine options for the product that remains in the Strategic National Stockpile. Hopefully, the remaining drug will get to the hands of those that need it.

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      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      "(CNN)The federal government is stuck with 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine now that the US Food and Drug Administration has revoked permission for the drug to be distributed to treat coronavirus patients.
      
      The government started stockpiling DONATED hydroxychloroquine in late March after President Trump touted it as "very encouraging" and "very powerful" and a "game-changer."
      
      Hydroxychloroquine was donated to the stockpile. The "HHS is working with the companies that donated the product to determine options for the product that remains in the Strategic National Stockpile.
      
      Your context seems to imply the Federal Government paid for the drug as well as spent "time" acquiring it. Perhaps you did not realize the drug was donated to the stockpile.
      
      https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/health/h … index.html
      
      https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/u-s-s … ronavirus/

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         wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Shush, Sharlee - you're ruining a perfectly good rant about Trump.

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            crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I think Shartlee also mentioned she knew lots of people who were taking it. How did that work out for them?

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               wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Couldn't say.  My wife doesn't seem to get much benefit, but it's still early in her treatment.  Time will tell.
               
               I DO think it safe to say, given it's popularity for so many years, that a great many ahve been helped.

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                  crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  I meant as a cure for Coronavirus. I believe she said she knew lots of people taking it for Coronavirus.

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                     wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     If she did I didn't see it and obviously can't speak for what results those people found.  But is it worse than the thousands of "natural" cures we see for everything from a runny nose to cancer?  Is it worse than praying for a sick child while denying medical treatment?  We allow both - is taking a proven safe drug, hydroxychloroquine, any worse?

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                        crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        It’s not worse. Except it is disappointing when your President is one of those idiots.

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                        Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        He is deflecting... I took this post was once again a twisted mistruth that included the Government paying for 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine. He has adopted the very same thing the media does to misrepresent the context of a report.  He used a few words at the very end of his opening comment to indicate our Government spends time and money to acquire the medication.  Once again a fake allegation...

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                           crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Shartlee,
                           
                           While they didn’t buy the drug, time was wasted on it. People took it and some became very sick and died because of it. But you are right, to claim it was a boondoggle is not correct.
                           
                           I think Wilderness’s point is well taken. Is it worse than the prevalence of dummy cures, fake supplements, and people who refuse medical care based on religion? Nope.
                           
                           Again, I just have higher expectations for the President, who incidentally has also questioned the use of vaccines.

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                              Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              Time was wasted on those that took the drug as a prophylactic, and how would you know that? Once again you presume, and it's very apparent you are hooked into CNN and whatever they feed you. You once again make a statement as if you are an authority, and as if it is factual.
                              
                              I have respect for a president that is not afraid of offering his opinion and does not just opt to say whatever he thinks the crowd wants to hear.

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            Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, I realize that. However, this thread goes a step too far. Just an out and out mistruth.

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               crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               How can mistruths bother a Trump supporter?

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                  Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  You call the president a liar. What about you? You continually post unproven mistruths. Just as you did in your opening comment.  Just being honest... LOL

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                     crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Shart, here is what I said:
                     
                     "Now we have a lot of this drug we don't need. Imagine all the time and money wasted on this."
                     
                     That is an absolutely true statement. Time was wasted and lots of money was wasted - all the time collecting the drugs, storing them, and now the time it's going to take to dispose of them. There's nothing untruthful about that.
                     
                     I think what you're trying to say is that I implied that the U.S. government wasted money buying the drugs, which is not true. So you are right there, but wrong elsewhere.
                     
                     My defense is that I was being sarcastic.

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                        Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        Sarcastic? I call it twisting context to suit your narrative. However, no problem there are many that prefer this type of information. It would seem a win if the Federal Government got a pharmaceutical company to donate what was thought to help drug. Now we would not want that, would we?
                        
                        The FDA just lacked at making up their minds about the drug benefits or lack of benefits. With a new virus, it was very clear no one had the answer to what drugs would help with the disease, and the FDA most possibly Oked the drug due to not having any other drug that was being successful in the treatment of COVID before they had any results from research testing on the drugs used for COVID. Guess we could blame the FDA or maybe just realize due to a virulent new virus the medical community was grasping to find anything that might work.
                        
                        I prefer to look at the positive aspect of all this. The drug was donated...
                        
                        Good going to whoever worked on getting the drug donated.

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         crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe we could give is to Venezuela, since it’s part of the U.S.

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            Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Or perhaps they will donate it to Americans. Due to millions take the med for many different health issues.
            
            It is to bad the FCA could not get their sh--- together. First, it was an appropriate drug to use on COVID then it wasn't, then it was once again deemed a good med for COVID, then once again it was not... LOL Seems like the FDA needs to be looked at in regard to their policies.
            
            This FDA  has OKed more drugs that ended up causing Cancer then I can count on two hands.

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            Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Maybe you should not attempt a silly deflect and address my comment. Venezuela has nothing to do with the subject, now does it?  Why is it you never back up anything you post with any form of your accusation.
            
            As I proved the drug did not cost our Government anything, as you claimed it did.
            
            You constantly bait, and end up on your own hook.

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               crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Trump said Venezuela was part of the U.S. I just thought it was a good place to send it.

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