Leftist Keith Obermann is calling for the extermination of Trump and 'his maggots'.
BLM physically attacks any who disagree.
I've read multiple stories about Trump supporters being gunned down by leftists.
At what point do we, as a nation, say enough is enough?
Perhaps now. Florida's governor is proposing a new law to combat the violence other cities are seeing:
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A … 8wDCUa98zw
It will be real interesting to see what the legislature does with it: while the millions of old geezers in Florida demand law enforcement, the drug runners and other criminals won't be happy.
Here's the quote as I found it:
KEITH OLBERMANN: "Trump can be, and must be, expunged. The hate he has triggered, Pandora's boxes he has opened, they will not be so easily destroyed.
So, let us brace ourselves. The task is two-fold: the terrorist Trump must be defeated, must be destroyed, must be devoured at the ballot box, and then he, and his enablers, and his supporters, and his collaborators, and the Mike Lees and the William Barrs, and Sean Hannitys, and the Mike Pences, and the Rudy Gullianis and the Kyle Rittenhouses and the Amy Coney Barretts must be prosecuted and convicted and removed from our society while we try to rebuild it and to rebuild the world Trump has destroyed by turning it over to a virus.
Remember it, even as we dream for a return to reality and safety and the country for which our forefathers died, that the fight is not just to win the election, but to win it by enough to chase — at least for a moment — Trump and the maggots off the stage and then try to clean up what they left.
Remember it, even though to remember it, means remembering that the fight does not end on November 3rd, but in many ways, will only begin that day."
How does one respond to Trump's fascist behavior? His attempt to suppress voting? His attempts to claim fraud unless he wins? His unwillingness to commit to a peaceful transition of power if he loses? How does one respond to the most anti-democratic President we have ever seen? This seems about right. At worst, fascism begets fascism. Of course, if these words were coming from Trump, which we have seen, his supporters say he was just joking.
Please provide a link where he uses the word "extermination".
Well I will agree with the sentiment, if there is a "side" that is mimicking what the early days of Nazi Germany looked like, it is clearly the "Progressive" Left.
Leftists Destroy Lincoln Statue in "Day Of Rage," in Portland.
NYC Is Now Arresting Jewish Leaders Over Protests.
Trump supporters being shot on the streets, by unhinged "Leftists"
If you know your history, you know exactly which side the "Progressive" Left is representing in comparison to Germany in the 30s.
Yes, if you conveniently ignore Trump's continued fear tactics and speeches about the invasion of non-whites and how it's destroying our nation, the core support for the GOP and who garners the support from the KKK and other white nationalist groups, the opposition to globalization, then yes, the Left is more like the Nazis.
Aside, I happen to be reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich right now. I'll keep my eye out for similarities between the Reich and leftists.
Well damnnn . . . That is a proposed law that should make a lot of bad behavior very expensive. I liked every aspect mentioned in your link.
However, I don't see the connection to the drug runners and criminals. The proposed law seems laser-focused on rioting and looting behavior. What am I missing?
The one thing applicable to drug runners and criminals was that if a city defunds police, slashing their budget, they will no longer get state funding. "Keep your police or we'll keep the money!" No anarchy for Florida.
"Citizen and Taxpayer Protection Measures
1. No “Defund the Police” Permitted: Prohibits state grants or aid to any local government that slashes the budget for law enforcement services."
Okay, I see where you are going with that thought.
But, to the essence of your link, my 'Red" is flaring brightly. All of the proposed legislative issues seem to be focused on the efforts and results of the anarchists that have co-opted the peaceful protests. And those are the issues I think most deserve attention.
Throw something at the police—go to jail with no bail.
Throw something at the police—get a minimum sentence.
etc. etc. etc. This law seems to be focused on what happens when legitimate proests are hijacked, and I am all for it. I can support BLM protesters Right to protest. And, I can understand that their peaceful protests have been hijacked by anarchists and groups with a different agenda. But I cannot understand or support those nefarious actors getting away with what they are getting away with (free bail money, prosecutors refusing to prosecute, etc.), because they cloak themselves in the mantra of the BLM movement.
I give kudos to Florida's governor/legislature for making this point. I hope the proposed law passes. It could be a model for the nation.
I'm with you right down the line - it is pointed primarily at riots. And it is a good thing, for riots have become a primary tool for far too many. Not just "looters of opportunity" and not just those out for a lark and some adrenaline, but there are way too many that are for the express purpose of destruction as a way of getting their way.
But my son had a thought - what will you do with 1,000 people arrested in a riot ("3rd degree felony when 7 or more persons are involved in an assembly and cause damage to property or injury to other persons.")? The city can't hold them all, which means it will be just another unenforced law. All I can think of is that police will use their judgement, arresting what they view as ringleaders or those actually involved in violence, and let the other go.
Your son's thought also occurred to me, but I considered it just as your final thought did; only the leaders and worst of violators would be arrested. Of course, that demands that we accept that the leadership folks we hire for law enforcement have a bit of common sense and allow them to use their own discretion. I can do that. Then we could cut that "1000" to "100s"
I don't have any issue with arresting rioters and looters.
However, just like in medicine, there is cause and effect. If you only focus on the effect, then you miss the opportunity to solve the problem by addressing the cause. In medicine, we focus primarily only on helping people once they are sick instead of preventing them from getting sick when it would save a lot of money and time to do the latter.
Ultimately, you must do both and be sincere about it. I suspect Governor DeSantis is sincere about stopping the looting and the rioting, which is noble. However, he doesn't seem to have much interest in addressing the cause. They go together and must be addressed together. Once a person has cancer, you can apply all the radiation you want, but it's usually not a cure.
Great suff.... I love living in Florida, it literally is going to be one of the last States standing, while places like CA and NY economically crash and literally burn.
That's the difference between the left and the right, at the moment. Law and order. But if rhetoric like Keith Obermann's is continued to be allowed from the left, what will they do? When will the left see the dangerous road they are supporting?
We've seen book burning. We've seen attacks on businesses and individuals. We hear the Nazi like calls for the extermination of those who disagree with them. We've heard the anti Semitic rants from the Mayor of NY city.
What will they agree is too far?
Yes, law and order is the difference, unless a Democratic governor is the target. In that case, attack her instead. Imply that she deserved it.
ahem . . . Do you really want to go the "Nazi-like" route to emphasize your point? As a contrarian, I could just as easily refute your "nazi-like" references to the Left with Nazi-like references to Pres. Trump's actions and policies.
But of course, I won't do that because it immediately diminishes the credibility of any point I would want to make.
ps. If you doubt my point, check out a few references to Hitler and Mussolini during the 1937-1941 time frame. Simple name substitution would make the comparison almost undeniable.
pss. And yes, I am reiterating a frequently made charge that Hitler and Nazi references are the last resort of an unsupportable commentator's point. "If you can't support it, just attribute it to Hitler."
Direct quote also. 'Trump must be defeated, must be destroyed, must be devoured at the ballot box, and then he, and his enablers, and his supporters, and his collaborators, and the Mike Lees and the William Barrs, and Sean Hannitys, and the Mike Pences, and the Rudy Gullianis and the Kyle Rittenhouses and the Amy Coney Barretts must be prosecuted and convicted and removed from our society'
I have never heard anyone in the right advocate those who disagree with them be removed from society. I have never heard anyone in the right use pejoratives like 'maggots' when referring to those they disagree with.
Orange man bad does not cover this. The left loves to call the right Nazis. Accepting this language and making excuses for behavior right out of the Hitler playbook is disgusting.
Oops. I don't know where to start Live to Learn. I am typically in agreement with your thoughts, but on this one we differ, I have heard the Right's prominent voices, (ie. Hannity, et), say just such comments.
Although your thoughts about this Oberman dude seem on target, your exclusion of similar "Right" voices is telling at the least, and disingenuous at the worst.
You have never heard it? Do you really need me to get you some links from Limbaugh, Hannity, Alex Jones? Really? You're in denial.
Here we go:
Donald Trump, suggesting the assassination of Hillary Clinton:
"If she gets to pick her judges – nothing you can do, folks. Although, the Second Amendment people. Maybe there is. I don’t know." –Donald Trump, in what many interpreted to be a suggestion that someone might shoot Hillary Clinton, her Supreme Court picks, or both, Wilmington, North Carolina campaign rally, Aug. 9, 2016."
Ann Coulter suggesting bombing The New York Times:
''My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.''
Bill O'Reilly on The United Nations:
''I just wish Katrina had only hit the United Nations building, nothing else, just had flooded them out, and I wouldn't have rescued them.''
Glenn Beck on 9/11 families:
''When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining.''
Sharron Angle on killing Harry Reid:
''I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.''
Pat Robertson on feminists:
''The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.''
Ann Coulter on liberals:
''Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole.''
Rush Limbaugh on Obamacare:
''Obama's got a health care logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook ... Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate.''
Glenn Beck on forest fires:
''I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.''
Michele Bachmann on the swine flu:
''I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence.''
Virginia Foxx on health care reform:
''I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country.''
Hope that helps.
I get your point but let's look at the outcomes. Both sides sees that as hateful rhetoric.
The left won't give the same courtesy, or the same assessment, of hateful ideas coming from the left and the left won't condemn violence brought about by those who buy into that hateful rhetoric.
That tells me you all agree with violent expression of hatred. I see the right using words to disagree, i see the left fomenting greater and greater mob action to intimidate, not legislate.
Really? You see it as hateful rhetoric?
BS. Not only do you endorse it, but you give it the Presidential Medal of Freedom. And frequently, you elect it to public office.
And finally, your President:
February 10, 2011 – In 2011, Donald Trump stoked false claims that Barack Obama had lied about his education. During a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump said, “Our current president came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere. In fact, I’ll go a step further: The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don’t know who he is. It’s crazy.” This is false. Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner.
March 30, 2011 – Donald Trump was a vocal proponent of the “birther” myth, claiming Barack Obama was not born in the United States. In 2011, Trump told Bill O’Reilly, “If you are going to be president of the United States you have to be born in this country. And there is a doubt as to whether or not he was… He doesn’t have a birth certificate. He may have one, but there’s something on that, maybe religion, maybe it says he is a Muslim. I don’t know. Maybe he doesn’t want that. Or he may not have one. But I will tell you this. If he wasn’t born in this country, it’s one of the great scams of all time.” In response to the “birther” conspiracy theory, the State of Hawaii released Barack Obama’s short- and long-form birth certificate.
May 27, 2015 – Continuing to build on the debunked “birther” conspiracy, Donald Trump said Barack Obama could have claimed Kenya as his birthplace for special treatment from colleges. Trump said, “There are three things that could happen. And one of them did happen. He was perhaps born in Kenya. Very simple, OK? He was perhaps born in this country. But said he was born in Kenya because if you say you were born in Kenya, you got aid and you got into colleges. People were doing that. So perhaps he was born in this country, and that has a very big chance. Or, you know, who knows?"
July 18, 2015 – Donald Trump insulted the military service of Senator John McCain, a decorated Vietnam War veteran who endured torture and solitary confinement as a POW in Hanoi. Trump said in a speech at the Family Leadership Summit in Iowa, "He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” Trump’s comments drew boos from his audience in Iowa, as well as widespread condemnation from Republicans and Democrats alike. Donald Trump himself was exempted from military service after receiving four student deferments between 1964 and 1968, and a medical deferment for a “bone spur in his foot” after graduating from college.
August 19, 2015 – In August of 2015, just three months after Trump announced his candidacy for president, two of his supporters in Boston beat a homeless Latino man with a metal pipe, and then urinated on him. Asked by the arresting officer why they had done it, one of the attackers said, “Trump was right—all these illegals need to be deported.” During a press conference shortly thereafter, Trump said he hadn’t heard about the assault. “It would be a shame,” he told the crowd of reporters, before continuing, “I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.”
April, 2016 – Jill Harth accused Donald Trump of sexual assault. In a 1997 lawsuit, Harth stated in court documents that Trump harassed and groped her in 1993. She later dropped the suit but stood by her story.
May 2016 – Temple Taggart, former Miss Utah in the 1997 Miss USA pageant, claimed Donald Trump sexually harassed her. Taggart said that Trump, on multiple occasions, had kissed her on the lips without her consent.
June, 2016 – Cassandra Searles, Miss Washington 2013, accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct at the Miss USA pageant. Searles posted a photo of contestants with Trump on Facebook, saying, “One guy treated us like cattle,” and “proceeded to have us lined up so he could get a closer look at his property.”
October 7, 2016 – In the 2005 Access Hollywood tape, Donald Trump bragged to Billy Bush about grabbing women by their genitals without consent. In the video published by the Washington Post, Trump said, “I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything… grab them by the pussy.” Trump said his statements were “locker room banter” and apologized “if anyone was offended.” He later issued a further response to the tape’s release, saying, “I’ve never said I’m a perfect person.”
October 7, 2016 – Donald Trump reiterated his false claim that the young men known as the “Central Park Five” were guilty of sexually assaulting a jogger in 1989, despite DNA evidence that exonerated them.
October 12, 2016 – Jessica Leeds alleged Donald Trump made inappropriate sexual advances towards her. Over 30 years ago Leeds sat next to Trump on a plane, where he lifted the armrest, grabbed her breasts, and put his hand up her skirt. She described him as an “octopus,” saying, “his hands were everywhere.”
October 11, 2016 – Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Universe contestant, accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct. Dixon asserted that Trump walked into their changing room in 2001 while contestants were changing. On the Howard Stern Show in 2005, Trump said about the pageant, “I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else. And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore, I’m inspecting it. You know they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
January 10, 2017 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Donald Trump approached him about leading an investigation into “Vaccine Safety.” The prospect that vaccination can lead to autism has been repeatedly debunked by long-running, peer-reviewed studies. Trump had supported the anti-vaccination theory on stage at the 2015 presidential debates. In September 2015 he publicly stated, “We had so many instances, people that work for me, just the other day, two years old, a beautiful child, went to have the vaccine and came back and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic.”
January 2017 – At least two foreign government-owned entities rented space in Trump Tower, including the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China and the Abu Dhabi Tourism and Culture Authority. Donald Trump has announced he would not sell his ownership stake in Trump Hotels, and has argued, through his lawyer Sheri Dillon, that they didn’t think “paying your hotel bill was an emolument”. The Emoluments Clause of the Constitution forbids government officials from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.” A lawsuit brought against Trump for maintaining his ownership stake rebutted Dillon’s argument, saying, “As the Framers were aware, private financial interests can subtly sway even the most virtuous leaders, and entanglements between American officials and foreign powers could pose a creeping, insidious threat to the Republic.”
February 1, 2017 In a rollback of an Obama-era protection, Donald Trump’s White House withdrew the Mercury Effluent Rule, which regulated the safe use and disposal of mercury in American dental offices. The Natural Resource Defense Council estimated the repeal would discharge five tons of the neurotoxic substance into water supplies each year. Even trace amounts of mercury can harm brain function and damage the human nervous system, particularly in pregnant women and infants.
February 7, 2017 – Donald Trump told a sheriff in Rockwell County, Texas, to “destroy” the career of a state senator who had opposed civil asset forfeiture. This controversial law enforcement practice allows police officers to seize cash and assets they believe may be related to a crime, even if the property owners were never arrested or convicted of that crime.
February 9, 2017 – When meeting with senators, Donald Trump addressed Democrats by saying that “Pocahontas is now the face of your party.” The racial epithet referenced Elizabeth Warren, who has claimed Native American ancestry.
Okay, the list is so long that it's impractical. Here's a link:
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the … ties-1-923
Here are his lies about the Coronavirus:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar … us/608647/
And let's look at some of the things said by Rush Limbaugh, pretty much the leader of the populist Right and the recipient of a Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Trump.
“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”
[To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
"I think it's time to get rid of this whole National Basketball Association. Call it the TBA, the Thug Basketball Association, and stop calling them teams. Call 'em gangs."
"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society."
"Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud."
"Women still live longer than men because their lives are easier."
"When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it's an invitation."
I'm having fun with this. Here are some quotes from Alex Jones, another right-wing hero:
“The reason there’s so many gay people now is because it’s a chemical warfare operation, and I have the government documents where they said they’re going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don’t have children.”
“So that’s it. It’s going to happen, we’re going to walk out in the square, politically, at high noon, and he’s going to find out whether he makes a move man, make the move first, and then it’s going to happen. It’s not a joke. It’s not a game. It’s the real world. Politically. You’re going to get it, or I’m going to die trying, bitch.”
“Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake, with actors – in my view, manufactured.”
“Mainstream media is the enemy… but now it’s time to act on the enemy before they do a false flag.”
“The word is he (Robert Mueller) doesn’t have sex with kids, he just controls it all. Can you imagine being a monster like that?”
Let's do some Ann Coulter:
"I don't really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester... I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others." –on the murder of Kansas abortion doctor George Tiller, FOX News interview, June 22, 2009
"You will find liberals always rooting for savages against civilization." –Ann Coulter
"They didn't root for the Nazis against civilization." –Bill O'Reilly
"Oh yes, they did... It was only when Hitler invaded their precious Soviet Union that at the last minute they came in and suddenly started saying oh no, now you have to fight Hitler." –Ann Coulter, "The O'Reilly Factor," May 7, 2010
"We just want Jews to be perfected, as they say." –arguing that it would be better if we were all Christian
"If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women. It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it's the party of women and 'We'll pay for health care and tuition and day care—and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?'"
"If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."
"I was going to have a few comments about John Edwards but you have to go into rehab if you use the word faggot." –at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."
"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"
"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."
"I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo."
Those in the The Media are spreading false narratives about Trump.
Those in The Media are smearing the nation and the world with gross BS regarding Trump.
The Media must be held accountable.
Honesty and truth must return.
How can we stand as a nation under the heavy weight of the lies and attacks from The Media.
Those involved in the slander of President Trump really should feel ashamed at the role they are playing in the demise of America.
No. They re triumphant.
How *#%^# Come?
So, it begins, what sort uses tactics such as these?
Pretty brazen stuff, isn't it?
Where is proof of the equivalent level of harassment from the left?
https://news.yahoo.com/kkk-social-visit … 22029.html
And there is more, look at the activities of the GOP in California?
So who is making a problem of voter fraud?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/p … boxes.html
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