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   gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago

   
   For those who voted for Trump,  do you contend that America will be worse as a result of Biden being President Elect? Do you believe that Biden will either be an extension, or even worse than Obama?

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, of course. Biden is nothing but a pawn of AOC. She is calling all the shots now, lining up her socialist zombies to track down every Trump supporter, declare them enemies of the state, and confiscate all their guns. Not only that, the vaccine is merely a vessel for the microchip that will be used to track their every move. Facebook and Twitter are already on board as is evidenced by their "fact checking" obvious truths about how 5G is just another way to spread COVID-19 and make Trump look bad. Kamala has been groomed ever since she became a lawyer in that socialist wasteland California, craftily working her way to the top of the secret socialist hierarchy. She obviously has cast a spell over Sleepy Joe and the liberal cult, who will blindly follow her and AOC as they round up white men and their devoted white women and put them in cages as revenge for the child separation policy.
      
      I got this information from unbiased news sites like liberalssuck.com and AOCtheSocialistGoddess.com. And if you don't believe that check out TheConservativeWhiteBros on youtube and you will see the TRUTH.

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         MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         You had me going there for a minute, Pretty Panther.

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      Sharlee01posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Well, he released a list of what will do with his pen to reverse on the same day. The list is reversing many actions that benefit our Country. (not going to wait time listing actions would seem a waste of energy).
      He took calls from a world leader and went against protocol by the calls not being taped or transcribed. (Great way to start covering one's butt).  This morning CNBC economist warned of how the Biden tax plan would cause a recession.  He is still unwilling to meet with the press to take questions. Oh and then it's being reported Oncologist Dr. Zeke Emanuel, one of 10 advisory board members named to Democratic President-elect Joe Biden's coronavirus task force, has pushed the U.S. and other countries to not hoard a coronavirus vaccine. No problem sharing, like Trump, has done with our excess vents and PPE. But this is ridiculous...
      
      I don't think Biden will be an extension of Obama's fly below the radar, do-nothing president. Biden is not equipped to do the job and will be lead around by others that hope to take the country down many diverse roads.

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         wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I did catch on on the news last night that the American virus will be given to the rest of the world ahead of Americans.  As is the norm, our people take last place.
         
         I was not pleased.

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I searched for this info and could not find it. Where did you hear this? And I assume you mean American "vaccine" not "virus." ;-)

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Pfizer's vaccine that is being touted as such a success is the one that must be kept under such cold conditions that it is going to be difficult to keep and disseminate it. So how are dark Africa, India, Central America, to name a few primitive places without electricity and refrigeration going to be able to receive, store and vaccinate their people before NYC, Detroit, and other cold states that are worried about storage?
            
            This article made a comment: "But the vaccine's complex and super-cold storage requirements are an obstacle for even the most sophisticated hospitals in the United States and may impact when and where it is available in rural areas or poor countries where resources are tight."
            
            https://news.yahoo.com/why-pfizer-ultra … MMaWAH-W9s
            
            If the link doesn't work, just google Pfizer's new covid vaccine. There are a bunch of stories about it. Take your choice.

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               GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Just a thought, but relative to an interview with the general in charge of the vaccine distribution program, the answer to your question is dry ice.
               
               I don't think the general addressed other nations such as the African ones you mentioned, but he did speak to getting dry ice from Puerto Rico to service the vaccine delivery requirements for the Virgin Islands.
               
               He didn't speak to specific U.S. locations, but I feel confident that if the delivery program has planned for such applications as the Virgin Islands, then they certainly must have plans for all contingencies of U.S. deliveries.
               
               You should check out the 60 Minutes interview link I posted, (perhaps in another thread). I think you will be as impressed as I was with the military precision of the Operation Warpspeed distribution program.
               
               As a veteran, I am obviously biased, but when it comes to any kind of logistics operations, I would challenge anyone to offer a more qualified choice than our military.
               
               GA

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                  MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks, GA, I hadn't seen anything on dry ice as a solution. I agree about the military. Thank you for your service. My husband is a Vietnam veteran. He saw a story on Reuters that said they are testing this vaccine on a military base in Georgia. I guess we'll see how it goes.

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            IslandBitesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Not what he wrote.
            
            From FoxNews:
            
            Emanuel, who served as a key architect of the Affordable Care Act under the Obama administration, co-authored a paper in September in which he encouraged officials to follow the "Fair Priority Model," which calls for a "fair international distribution of vaccine," rather than what he and his co-authors characterized as "vaccine nationalism."
            
            The model allows the country that produces the vaccine to hold onto enough of a supply to reach a threshold for herd immunity ("Rt below 1"). Beyond that, the model supports distributing the vaccine internationally, which means giving away or selling doses of the vaccine before it's available to every citizen in that country, Emanuel explained to Scientific American.

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               wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               That's not what I heard on CBS, but makes a lot more sense.
               
               However, with 325 million people in the US and 25 million doses of vaccine, it's going to be a while until we have reached that 80% of the population (260 M) vaccinated, especially as it takes two doses to accomplish immunity.  It seems likely that the US will never be giving out vaccines, unless the rest of the world simply depends on us to provide for their needs.
               
               It also leaves a lot of people that might want the vaccine but can't get it if we're giving it away internationally.  An awful lot of anger could be generated that way.

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                  MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  What you say is true, but some people are looking at any new vaccine with suspicion. I wonder how many people will not be willing to be on the frontlines to receive it in this country? Will that make a difference in the amount available for distribution in the U.S. Or is this just a vocal reaction from anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists?

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                     wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Personally, it's hard for me to swallow the Gates/government/Trump conspiracy that it is all to inject chips to control us with.
                     
                     I will take the vaccine as soon as possible, and at 70 years old I will be one of the early ones.  After health care workers and maybe cops, I'm not sure.  And after those with other medical problems.

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                        Sharlee01posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        I am right in line behind you... So many have been screaming "we need to follow the science". Science dictates two ways to suppress a virus 1. Herd immunity or vaccine which speeds up herd immunity.   Not big on taking a brand new virus. But this is a pandemic, I will do my part to get rid of it.
                        
                        Dr. Fauci On Operation warp speed...   --- https://www.marketwatch.com/story/help- … 2020-11-12

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                           wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           I don't want to take a brand new virus either! 
                           
                           But yes, herd immunity is about the only thing that will actually work, and a vaccine can provide that. At least until it mutates, which is why it is likely to become just another "flu" vaccine, to be taken every year.

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                              Sharlee01posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Yes, it will most definitely be added to our yearly collection of flu viruses that are given. Takes years to really stamp down a virus. Unless it decides to fizzle out. Most do over many years.

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