Thou Shall Be Vaccinated or....Else

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   gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago

   
   New York City Mayor DeBlasio stated that a vaccination card will be required in order to participate in indoor activities such as going to gyms, restaurants, & other indoor events.  The transition period will be the week of August 15, 2021 & the mandate will be  strictly enforced on the week of September 13, 2021.  Mayor DeBlasio stated that in order to participate fully in New York City life, one must be vaccinated.  He further indicated that those who aren't vaccinated won't be able to participate in indoor activities.   Your thoughts?

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      CHRIS57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      My first thought: Why wasn´t this vaccination card intruduced half a year ago?
      
      We use something like this in Germany since march 2021. Actually it is kind of a contact tracing app that holds all vaccination certificates and test results. Just present it to an access device (QR-code or NFC) and you are in.
      
      Happened last weekend close to my city:
      https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersa … ck100.html
      More than 5.000 people at a local festival. Some open air, some indoors. No masks. Admission either vaccinated or fresh antibody quick test.
      
      The system works. Our current 7 day infection rate: 12/100.000. In comparison USA 140/100.000. Anyhow vaccination percentage should be similar to New York. But 30% of 12-18 year old got at least 1 shot.
      
      Apparently New York starts off a similar system as we are used to. I am confident it will work.

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         gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I would be for the antibody test.   Let's have the antibody test.  The vaccines are far too dangerous.  I don't trust the vaccines-there are FAR TOO MANY aftereffects of the covid 19 vaccination.   I refuse to risk my health to take the vaccination.

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            Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, what ever happen to survival of the fittest.
            
            The powers to be, say safety above all , bring us all down to the weakest rather than inspire and motivate our strategy for our strength.
            
            Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

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            manatita44posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, they are forcing you without forcing you. A bit of Zen. In some ways, Government has always done this. You are reminded of your rights by a brilliant campaign of humanities, but in reality we get cornered by stealth in different ways.
            
            I have had two vaccines and I'm with the scientists, but yes, I saw this coming even when they were saying you are free to choose, over a year or so ago. So you will be affected if you go to gyms, travel, rave, drink alcohol and in so many others ways, until you take the vaccine, or suffer social hardships. Best wishes, Grace.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I leave you all to your robots and zombie apocalypse dance. I'll take my food, arts and entertainment elsewhere.
      
      Personally must keep it real and natural. Do feel sorry for all the animals forced Covid tested. Who died for man's ignorance and greed. Most have now volunteered their souls to the end game of darkness.
      
      Give it all up to cold hearted reptiles master minds who bought most everyone by your true owners and their propreganda machines. They can own everything so we can own nothing and be happy about it. Except nobody owns me.
      Welcome to the Matrix on earth.

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   Live to Learnposted 3 years ago

   New Yorkers are packed together like rats. They have the second highest mortality rate for Covid. I am totally against a federal mandate to make the unvaccinated second class citizens but for areas who have a proven track record of mismanaging pretty much everything during this pandemic maybe it’s ok.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I'm always open, yet not on what will be mandated force into my body. Unconstitutional and against human rights.
      
      Funny how many people call me an antivaxxer extreme right wing Christian right off the bat.. I can barely tolerate religions and politicking. Vaccines when tested for 20 years without killing all the lab animals. I'm fine with and it's volunteered.
      
      They cross the line this time, Royally.

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      CHRIS57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      At the end of the day, development will be pushed by self enforcing group momentum.
      
      In a restaurant, if people decide that they don´t want to sit next to someone who is not "admission certified" to be safe, then this restaurant will eventually be empty. And that will lead to calling for rules like the one in discussion.
      
      Local politics may be a little ahead of the dynamics, but i think this will happen, if not enforced by administration then by business instinct.
      
      There will be advertising signs out: "We only admit fully vaccinated people. Enjoy your meal without worries."
      
      What do you think, where will people go? To a restaurant which says: "Freedom for all. No masks, no vax, no distancing" or to the reataurant i described before.
      
      Just a thought...

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         Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         We keep our gathering at home or switch from each other homes. Yes, entertainment and restaurants and cafes with be crushed. Yet the push back will over come in the long run.
         
         Funny certified safe.
         Didn't know unvaccinated were walking time bombs like terrorist.
         Think it's totally opposite.

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            CHRIS57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            It is not on you and me to decide what will happen.
            
            As i said: Self enforced group momentum.  Society, the people will decide for themselves.
            
            Like on an ice scating rink: Eventually all people on the ice are moving in one direction. No idea which direction is better or worse. But it happens automatically. The explanation: All moving in one direction causes less people bumping into each other. That is group momentum.

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               Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Yes we are on thin ice for now. Yet optimistic for near future.

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  how can you be optimistic for the future???
                  
                  H O W ????

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                     Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     I'm very intuitive about world events. Do envision laying low for 2 to 4 years as it will be more hellish yet. Before we hit the roaring 20s optimistism. The aim is to cut it to two years less suffering. We are happy where we are in our off grid eco village Just, sad for what surrounding us. Probably would have been sad also in South America.

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                        gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        It is best to lay low for awhile until the COVID craziness subsides.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Invest in bubble protector above the waist for kids sports

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         MizBejabbersposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Well, we certainly have the freedom to go where we please. We no longer go to a couple of what used to be our favorite restaurants because they are too packed with people and the tables are too close together. Without any type of knowing whether the person sitting at a table very close to ours is covid negative or vaccinated, I choose not to go there, at least for the time being.

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            gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I order my Japanese food online now.  It is far too dangerous to go to restaurants nowadays.  I also avoid crowded places.  One of my favorite places was Borough Park, Brooklyn.  I now avoid the place because it has a high population of people who have COVID-19.   I am playing it safe until the COVID situation drastically improves.   I am quite fortunate to live alone.

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               Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I grow most of my own food rather than double the fat and sugar in restaurants foods. Just sometimes it's really fun to go out with a group. Even that is called assembly against the Covid vaccines code.

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         gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         People naturally will go to a restaurants where the COVID rules are strictly enforced.   Those who are unvaccinated will properly order takeout.   Hopefully, the COVID situation will improve, become more reasonable instead of verging upon hysterics, & hopefully subside into normalcy.

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            Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            The new Covid world order normal.
            
            Rather have a series of root canal operations.

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