The left is dedicated to controlling disinformation. The purchase of Twitter was a huge hit to their ability to control speech. So, now the Biden administration has created a "Disinformation Governance Board." This is HUGE government overreach. Can you say "Big Brother?" (If you haven't read the book 1984...I highly recommend it. We are now living it.)
"The Department of Homeland Security has created a “disinformation” board led by a woman who has criticized First Amendment rights and dismissed troubling reports of Hunter Biden’s laptop as a “Trump campaign” ploy.
Nina Jankowicz has been on the job for a couple of months, but Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas only revealed the disinformation board’s existence this week in testimony to Congress, when prodded about what his department is doing to help minority communities combat election disinformation. But the broad scope of its purview and the appointment of Ms. Jankowicz as its lead have raised questions about the board."
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … 652e5ca4c8
This is a serious L v. R issue. And they had the smugness to name it "Disinformation Governence' Board."
What does China or Russia call their "disinformation" bureaus?
There is no gray for me. This is a black & white, 'hell no' issue.
"What does China or Russia call their "disinformation" bureaus?"
Not sure. "Truth center"? "Information Bureau"? "News"?
Whatever it is, I'm with you - this is not black and white, this is "Hell No!"
Ya know what I am going to keep this simple. I took this as just another ridiculous stun from the Biden White House in the hopes of garnering votes. It may even please the small minority. Most Americans will see it as a stunt, and an unconstitutional stunt at that. Why the hell does this administration stop spinning and work on some real problems?
One would not even think they would approach this hotbed controversy. Go figure. Hard to think what would make Biden and his bunch look more authoritative than trying to control free speech. Could these nut jobs work any harder to appear so ridiculous? This really pisses me off.
But Hey, I have great faith the end of this kind of crazy crap will end in 2024. I say HELL NO!
I don't think this is a Biden action, (as in his idea). I think this is a Democrat party-pushed action. It might be coming from the White House, but Biden is just the frontman. The irony of them actually having the balls to call it a Disinformation board is as challenging as the idea itself.
I can easily get 'worked-up' on this one. I don't see any alternative perspectives with enough validity to consider.
Biden is a puppet, with someone else moving his mouth. I realize that is harsh. However, it has become more and more apparent to me watching all the ridiculous crap that comes out of this administration.
I think we will see more and more of this kind of craziness, the Dems are spinning completely out of control.
Could you have ever in your wildest dreams thought we would have a Disinformation disinformation board to determine and deem what is misinformation? A bunch of liberals feels they should have the power to say what is and what is not true.
Perhaps it's time for more to wake up and have a good look at what is going on, or forever, hold one's peace.
In my wildest dreams I would have never thought I'd see a president claim an election was rigged and slates of false electors set forth.
Well, this is highly alarming!
Elon Musk is on the record as calling this new development "Discomforting."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … =operanews
"Nina Jankowicz defended her previous casting of doubt on the Hunter Biden laptop scandal
LOL welcome to "alternative facts" and differing standards of reality. What is "truth" anymore?
My truth? Your truth? Democrat truth? Republican truth? Truth based on actual fact? None of it matters anymore.
What Elon Musk says is also irrelevant.
Cheer up, now that you see it it will be easier to define the opposition.
Truth always matters.
I do not understand how anyone can be dismissive of Truth. Facts are everything. Context is everything.
Elon Musk is highly relevant, even more so today. The man is a genius.
How does a specific sort of genius make someone relevant across broader issues?
If truth mattered we wouldn't have countless politicians echoing the debunked claims of election fraud of 2020.
We no longer have a shared sense of truth or reality in this country.
It's whatever your party tells you to believe. Whatever their interpretation of an event is. January 6th? That was a normal tourist day. Hunter Biden's laptop? It's Russian disinformation.
I think that Mr. Trump showed us that you can simply say something is false regardless of what factual evidence really is. It works both ways. If you don't like the truth, Just deny it. This is where we are in America.
Elon Musk may be a Libertarian, or a Democrat. That’s fine by me. The point is that he cares enough about free speech to invest $44 million dollars in it.
We do not know what he will do with this platform. He may trash it altogether, for all we know.
And maybe that wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
We cannot derive Truth from what politicians say. Truth is so much more than mere words can say. Without any truth, everything becomes corrupted and meaningless. Without truth, our existence has no point.
Truth is everything, as I said before. It is up to the individual to recognize the profound responsibility of searching for what comprises Truth, and to try living in truth as best we can.
Good luck with that. We have no agreed sense of reality in this country anymore. Truth is whatever people think it is and a lot of people are followers of politicians these days. What your leader says, what your party says goes. That is your truth.
It is important to differentiate between Truth and opinion.
Well is it the truth that President Biden legitimately won the 2020 election? Or is your truth that the election was rigged?
Faye, I would suggest you do proper research of all evidence to determine truths if this is a matter that truly concerns you.
I certainly have done all the research on this matter. It leads me to believe the election was secure and legitimate. And your truth?
Good on you for trying your best to do research.
But I'm guessing that my best research based on court decision and polling data doesn't match your reality that the election was stolen.
Are you familiar with due process?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction … %20process
and that's your truth.
What is your truth? Do you believe the 2020 election was rigged? I think you prove the point that America has no sense of shared reality anymore.
" Truth is whatever people think it is and a lot of people are followers of politicians these days. What your leader says, what your party says goes. That is your truth."
I was referring to this belief of yours.
Faye & Kathryn,
Truth is not whatever people believe. This faulty logic is tiresome. So forgive me for bowing out on this nonsensical discussion.
Absolutely. You can bow out but it is what it is in today's political climate. You have people clinging to a different perception of reality. It doesn't matter if it is grounded in fact or not. What matters to most people is what their political affiliation is promoting. And yes they believe it 100%, based in fact or not. Where have you been??
I believe, 100%, in the TRUTH Faye. For example: one person and one person alone, was killed on Jan. 6th, 2021. Her name was Ashli Babbitt, she was unarmed and non-threatening, but nevertheless she was killed that day by a Capital Police Officer. No one else was killed that day! That's a fact, but the lies introduced by the left (aka: Democrats) are still circulating to this day! Facts are facts, lies are lies, truth is truth. It isn't complicated.
Yes and the 2020 election was not rigged or stolen as countless Republicans are campaigning on currently.
And you deny that officer Sicknick died as a result of his injuries?
In your opinion, which you will never be able to prove as fact.
To be clear, I don't care one way or the other, what is done is done.
But I recognize what some consider to be absolute fact, is nothing more than mere conjecture.
Hence my point, You have a different perception of reality.
This is my point as well, you have a different perception of reality, one where you feel your opinions are concretely factual, they are not.
No more than any others and this is largely due to the massive efforts ongoing to suppress factual information.
The Hunter Biden laptop is a prime example of this. How many "National Security Experts" came out and said that it was nothing more than a Russian fabrication?
Yes, there are many people living in America that have a belief system and outlook on our government that is built entirely on falsehoods.
They are perhaps the most dangerous people of all, because they will defend the very mechanisms of the system even when faced with overwhelming evidence that they are being lied to.
Again, prime example, the Hunter Biden laptop "disinformation".
Sicknick had a stroke the following day, his death was classified as a natural death.
"If truth mattered we wouldn't have countless politicians echoing the debunked claims of election fraud of 2020."
IF truth mattered you wouldn't say the claims of election fraud have been debunked. That is a blatant lie. It has NOT been debunked.
Here is a trailer for a documentary called 2000 mules about the Democrats and their organized efforts at illegal ballot harvesting. Simply because someone refused to accept the truth, doesn't make it a lie.
This documentary is just one of many incidences of fraud in the 2020 election.
I think we can say it has been debunked to a legal standard. It has not been debunked to your standard, hence My conclusion that We live in a country where Citizens have drastically different perceptions of reality. This new board will be inconsequential also. This trend of blurring the line between truth/lie, reality/unreality was kicked off long ago and really flourished under Mr Trump. Now, when we disagree or simply don't like something we just deny its reality. It's been called alternate facts or fake news but the point is that Americans have come to the point of justifying nearly anything that fits their narrative. The amount of evidence against a belief is now meaningless As it can just be outright rejected.
For example, Kevin McCarthy's lies caught on tape. Even with the evidence, many still don't believe he lied.
Denialism is rampant in our country today. It is a whole new way in seeing the world. Denial hides from the truth, denialism builds a new and better truth.
the Holocaust (and other genocides) never happened, that human-caused climate change is a myth, that Aids either does not exist or is unrelated to HIV, that evolution is a scientific impossibility, school shootings are false flag operations, vaccines cause autism, The Earth is flat.
Today, there is doubt cast uneven the most solid of truth.
Truth has become subjective.
Kinda' thinking of language Truth is and always has been an abstract noun, so leads to being subjective since is used with a quality or concept. A truth is not necessarily True.
Did you look at the trailer for the documentary?
I sure did. D’Souza, is a pro-Trump conservative personality who was pardoned by the former president after being convicted of making illegal campaign contributions. In my opinion He's advancing the lie of election fraud to make money for himself And maybe to stay in Mr Trump's good graces. I think this is the biggest hoax that's been pulled on the American people.
Wow... bigger than WMDs that weren't?
Bigger than the Russian Collusion that wasn't?
Bigger than the Citizens United case that found that any attempt to control the amount that corporations pump into a national election was a violation of their free speech because corporations are people?
Bigger than over 50 National Security experts stating the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian fabrication attempt to steal the American election?
I would hope more people could come to the conclusion that the american people are like pawns in a political game of chess being played out on both sides of the aisle. Sometimes red will gain an advantage and sometimes blue but one thing for certain is the people always lose.
Well let's stick with that thought.
Who controls our government? Who controls the CIA and the NSA?
Do you have any idea of the crimes committed by the CIA against foreigners as well as Americans?
Do you know the real start of the war in Ukraine began because of CIA interference and decisions made by then SoS Clinton and the Obama Administration?
The CIA today thinks nothing of using mass killing to reach desired goals, the Maidan shootings of innocent people demonstrating in Kiev being an outstanding example, shootings which precipitated a coup in Ukraine against an elected government.
And then there were the extremist lunatics which were armed and set loose upon the people of Syria to do pretty much whatever they pleased.
Do you remember when Ambassador Stevens was killed in Benghazi, Libya?
That was a CIA operation to funnel weapons from Ghaddafi's cache to Syria, anti-armor and surface-to-air missiles were loaded onto a ship, unloaded at a port in Turkey and smuggled to Muslim Brotherhood resistance efforts in Syria.
I'm sure you remember the CNN report explaining that to the American people. Oh wait, they didn't. Mainly because our news isn't about investigative reporting or the truth, its about feeding the American people the narrative while hiding other information from them.
You have a very flawed understanding of our government, who controls it, who is in control within it, and most especially what is going on outside the borders of the US and why.
That you think you have this rock solid foundation of fact, and devote your time to trying to correct others of their misperceptions and false realities is just a sign that you have a closed mind yourself to new ideas and new information that is counter to what you believe.
You just made my point.
Indeed, just so.
We all have our areas of experience and expertise.
Yours is obviously in education and you make some very sound arguments when discussing topics related to it. I have seen you articulate detailed counters to people's posts on CRT which are not easily countered without a background in the education field to fall back on.
How many elections have you run, how experienced are you with Dominion voting machines?
How many overseas deployments have you been on, how many special operations have you led?
Have you ever fired a Javelin, AT-4, M107, M203 have you ever painted a target, do you understand how to calculate for wind speed, elevation, distance and humidity, have you ever taken a target down from a klick away?
Our experiences make us experts (compared to others not in a related field) in some things... while remaining fairly ignorant (no matter how much we may read or watch) of most other things.
"the lie of election fraud"
You can say deflect and misdirect all you want.
What you CAN'T do is deny the facts of the documentary.
I think the 2020 election fraud and efforts to cover it up are the biggest hoax placed on the American people.
Yes he is a genius, and he won't conform to go down any one path, that's what scares the left. They have lost the power to have one voice be heard on Twitter, but all news, all; views. Not just selected propaganda.
Agree, Musk is highly relevant and far more important than the corrupt politicians like Warren and Biden that are arrayed against him.
What a truly loathsome twisted bunch we have in control of our government.
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Just got this news blurb --- The Department of Homeland Security's Disinformation Governance Board is being put on hold weeks after its establishment was announced to the public, and board director Nina Jankowicz will resign, sources told The Associated Press.
According to the Washington Post, DHS made the decision on Monday, and that the following morning the board’s leader, Nina Jankowicz, had a resignation letter drafted.
Earlier this month, the attorneys general of 20 Republican-led states threatened legal action against DHS over the board, claiming it is "un-American" and chilling to the free speech of Americans.
Did the right cancel her? ( meant to be comedic, and somewhat sarcastic )
I think she and the disinformation board are victims of 'friendly fire'. The board was just too much of a "I can't believe you even tried that' move by the administration.
I heard the announcement tagged with a punchline.
'The government's Disinformation Governemce Board has joined CNN+ in the trashbin of bad ideas, it has been put on 'hold', (govspeak for canceled), but, it did outlast CNN+, 28 days to CNN+'s 24 days.'
So, as ironic as your jest would be, it looks like they canceled themsaelves.
If the description of the board's placement is true, then the board will just be a slush fund for social issue warrior groups, (meaning active involvement, not just supportive involvement).
It sounds like an add-on grant machine more than it does a regulatory or enforcement board—itself. Its real enforcement power will be in the programs it funds.
Which is all the more “discomforting.” I wonder which group will get the most bang for their buck?
I bet it won't be Judicial Watch or Prager U.
Ha! You can take that to the bank.
My thought is that transgender activism may be placed on overdrive. This concerns me for children who transition and then de-transition and who become sterile as a result of medical treatments. If a 50-year old guy wants to look like a woman and get breast implants, I say “go for it.” I don’t care.
But I want our government (which currently supports radical activism) to leave our children alone.
If this subject concerns you, look up the name John Money, of John Hopkins.
An outrageous affront to our constitutional right to free speech. By an agency armed to the teeth.
My favorite quote about this DHS board.
"Rather than police our border, Homeland Security has decided to make policing Americans’ speech its top priority," Republican Sen. Josh Hawley wrote in a tweet. "They’re creating a Disinformation Board. No, really. And take a look at the views of the leftist radical running it."
Yup, that is exactly where we are today in America.
This is why those controlling DC consider the biggest threat to "National Security" to be the American people:
Jan 11, 2022 - The Department of Justice on Tuesday announced it is forming a unit to combat domestic terrorism as national security officials warn of a "persistent and evolving" threat of violent extremism ...
April 28, 2021 - White supremacist terrorism is the deadliest threat to the United States, President Joe Biden told lawmakers Wednesday night as he aimed to pivot from the country's post-9/11 foreign fights to warning of a new war about to begin in Americans' backyard.
I'd forgotten what motivated Elon Musk to take over Twitter.
It all started when the satirical site Babylon Bee was kicked off of Twitter.
After Rachael Levine was given a "Women of the Year" award the Babylon Bee give the "transgender" Levine a "Man of the Year" award.
A fine example of left-wing censorship that will now be stopped.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/twitter-s … 1bee20c262
I think a good question is who is going to prevent the government from providing disinformation?
Congressman Jim Jordan asked some good questions Homeland security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas...who deflected rather than answering a question.
"Mr. Secretary, yesterday you announced the formation of Disinformation Governance Board at DHS. You put out a bulletin two months ago, a big fancy bulletin here, red, white and blue. You said that misleading narratives, mis-, dis-, and mal-information, MDM, as you call it, misleading narratives undermine the trust in government. I was just wondering, when the head of the CDC, Miss Walensky, said that the vaccinated can’t get the virus, did that undermine trust in government?"
Jordan went on to list more instances where current or former government officials put out significant statements that turned out to be questionable or even false.
"When the highest paid official in our government, the smartest man on the planet, Dr. Fauci, when he said the virus didn't come from a lab, did that undermine trust in government? And will that be something that this governing board will look at?" Jordan asked. "How about when 51 former intel officials told us that the Hunter Biden story was--had all the earmarks of Russian misinformation? Will that be something that this governance board that you just formed, will you be looking into that? "
Mayorkas responded without addressing Jordan's examples, only providing a statement on the board's purpose."
https://news.yahoo.com/jordan-asks-mayo … 37a4ae5233
Greg Gutfeld made a great point about those on the left.
"This isn't feeling like America. And maybe that's the goal. They never liked this place to begin with. But instead of leaving, they're trying to recreate what immigrants escape from — tyranny, authoritarianism, fascism. They focus on bureaucrats, media, cowards with power and replace them with little tyrants dedicated to the left-wing hive mind."
Whenever they call others “fascist” they are merely projecting. They call others what they are. This is why you cannot have a serious argument with the hard Left. They cannot even define Truth and frankly, have no interest in it. The 1984 book cover you used is is highly appropriate.
"Q And then on this new report that the Department of Homeland Security is setting up a Disinformation Governance Board to tackle misinformation ahead of the midterms: Secretary Mayorkas said that part of its intention was to tackle misinformation in Hispanic communities especially. Can you give us an idea of what this board is going to be doing, what their authority would look like?
MS. PSAKI: Sure, Jacqui. I really haven’t dug into this exactly. I mean, we, of course, support this effort, but let me see if I can get more specifics. We know that there has been a range of disinfo out there about a range of topics — I mean, including COVID, for example, and also elections and eligibility. But I will — I will check and see if there’s more specifics.
Q There’s been some criticism of the person who’s been chosen to oversee this board. She had previously called the Hunter Biden laptop a “Trump campaign product,” seeming to discredit its validity — or validity of reporting surrounding that.
How can you assuage concerns of people who are looking at this person who’s been appointed to this position and wondering if she’s going to be able to accurately judge misinformation now that a lot of that reporting has been proven to be factual in some ways?
MS. PSAKI: Well, I don’t have any comments on the laptop.
But what I can tell you is that it sounds like the objective of the board is to prevent disinformation and misinformation from traveling around the country in a range of communities. I’m not sure who opposes that effort, and I don’t know who this individual is, so I have no comments on it specifically.
Q Her name is Nina Jankowicz. She also just recently made some polarizing comments about the Twitter — Elon Musk’s Twitter purchase. It’s just getting some pushback from critics who are saying this person may not be the right choice for a board that is run by the Department of Homeland Security. Can you speak to that at all?
MS. PSAKI: I don’t have any information about this individual. I can check on more information about the board.
Go ahead." Source https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … l-28-2022/
Let's have a bit of a look into her words... Her ideologies, her practicing misinformation. In my view, she represents this particular Administration quite well. (this is meant to be sarcastic) . And Oh MY God! (also meant to be sarcastic). So tired of these bizzaro people, and bizzaro crap. ( very serious!)
Tik Tok and Mary Poppins. This absurdity is what we’ve come to.
Yup...a spoonful of sugar won't begin to help any of this b.s. go down.
Seems this is what some have come to... Not me and my guess, not you.
"Federal and state lawmakers, constitutional scholars, and other experts are expressing concerns with the Department of Homeland Security's new misinformation board, which they say is the Biden administration's attempt to stifle free speech.
Mayorkas announced during testimony Wednesday before the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security that DHS had created a Disinformation Governance Board to combat online disinformation.
"The goal is to bring the resources of (DHS) together to address this threat," Mayorkas said during the hearing, adding that the department is focused on the spread of disinformation in minority communities ahead of the 2022 midterm elections."
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/free-sp … 47474.html
What I found repellent in regard to Mayorkas quote --- in my view, it would seem that some citizens, "minorities", have been pointed out to need help to decipher misinformation.
"the department is focused on the spread of disinformation in minority communities ahead of the 2022 midterm elections."
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