Toy Soldiers -- Biden Uses Marines As Props

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   Sharlee01posted 12 months ago

   
   Was Biden's usage of the Marines for his speech against the military code?
   
   "A veterans’ organization slammed President Biden on Friday for using Marines "as props" in his partisan speech, warning it "erodes trust" in the military.
   
   Concerned Veterans for America deputy director and U.S. Marine Corps veteran John Byrnes blasted Biden for having Marines visibly positioned behind him during his inflammatory speech on Thursday, in which he said that the influence of "MAGA Republicans" on the GOP "is a threat to this country."
   
   Byrnes said that American "men and women in uniform serve the country, not a party" and "take a solemn oath that should not be taken lightly or taken advantage of."
   
   "When elected officials use our troops as props in political and partisan messaging, it undermines the nonpartisan nature of our military and erodes trust in the institution," Byrnes warned.
   
   A White House official told Fox News Digital the "President gave an important speech last night about our democracy and our values, values that our men and women in uniform fight every day to protect."
   
   "The presence of Marines at the speech was intended to demonstrate the deep and abiding respect the President has for their service to these ideals and the unique role our independent military plays in defending our democracy, no matter which party is in power," the official continued.
   
   The official also pointed to the White House’s previous statements claiming Biden’s speech taking aim at "MAGA Republicans" and calling them a threat to democracy was not partisan or political.
   
   According to government watchdogs, Biden's usage of the Marines for his speech may be against military code."
   https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- … t-military
   
   Aiming at Trump, Biden says he won't use military as 'prop'
   Aug 30, 2020 — Joe Biden said on Saturday that as president, he would never use the military “as a prop.   https://www.navytimes.com/news/election … ctions%22%
   
   https://nypost.com/2022/09/02/democrats … en-speech/
   
   Hopefully, you will share your views of last night's speech.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      "... Marines visibly positioned behind him during his inflammatory speech."
      
      The kids were watching
      There were no Boos
      Its enough to make you want to sink into the couch.
      And stay there.
      But stand up we must.
      
      I gotta take a breather.
      I don't even want to analyze his speech.
      I can't even go there.
      His negativity, his anger, his threatening tone.
      Its not American.
      
      That's all I can say.

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      GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I think it was over-produced and over-staged. It diminished the 'sincerity' factor for me. It was obviously political, but that wasn't a bad thing until the Whitehouse claimed it wasn't political. That's a purposeful spin.
      
      The Marine thing doesn't bother me. Until it presented a slam against Pres. Biden, I'm thinking most Trump supporters would be fine with the Marines if Pres. Trump was standing in Pres. Biden's place.
      
      The kissy-kissy before and after, (especially the 'after'), was a bit much. Pres. Biden's presentation wasn't bad, but it was barely good.
      
      The ending was pure Hollywood; 'The hero walks to the 'red glow' of the horizon, complete with a turn-and-wave'. It didn't help my impression.
      
      As for the content of the speech, I view it as a political speech, so even points I agree with are tagged with an asterisk for later 'yeah, buts . . . '
      
      I do think the democrats, through this speech, have planted their flag on their election campaign tactics: fight fire with fire. Both sides will get burnt. Might even weed out a few of the most extreme voices.
      
      This fight can't be avoided now, and it can't be allowed to fester. The midterms are going to send a very clear message.
      
      GA

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

         "The Marine thing doesn't bother me. Until it presented a slam against Pres. Biden, I'm thinking most Trump supporters would be fine with the Marines if Pres. Trump was standing in Pres. Biden's place."
         
         ew, yuc. President Trump would never have done such a thing.

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         Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

         The midterms will provide us with a picture of how split we are, and where the majority lies to the right or left.
         
         I appreciate your analysis of the speech, very insightful.

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   Credence2posted 12 months ago

   C'mon you guys are just floating another air biscuit....

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      ... as the country sinks like a rock.

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      Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I think it entirely appropriate to have Military men in uniform behind you when you are making a declaration of war.  Seems fitting.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

         .... and the colors, Red, White and BLACK!
         
         - with the use of carefully placed lights to enhance the effect of a red glow all around the podium and especially behind the at-attention Marines on either side of the shouting President.
         Were they there to shoot any one who would dare to BOO? or chant "Lets Go Brandon?"
         
         Furthermore, the stage was very carefully designed and curated as though it was an Art installation commenting on:
         
         I.  The Surreality of Life in America today.
         II. The fallen nature of American Politics.
         III. The Evil From the Left toward the Goodness of the Right, which includes MAGAs.
         
         Three of MAGAs' concerns:
         I.   A percolating economy.
         II.  Enforced national borders.
         III. Energy independence.
         
         Opposing Deep State concerns:
         I.   Opening borders
         II.  Emptying the coffers and the pockets of American citizens ... except for their own, of course.
         III.  Energy DEPENDENCE on foreign sources including materials for solar technology and electricity for electric cars.
         
         
         We have been taken over and THEY just informed us of this fact.
         
         - so what to do is the question?
         
         Get them out of office, city by city, state by state.
         We still have a national Will if we are energized enough to activate it and smart enough to vote according to reality, rather than surreality.
         
         Tend to Reality, rather than Pretend to Illusion, I say.
         
         
         
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         Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

         Great point.

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         Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

         The minute Biden walked out on that "set". The very image that is depicted in this photo came to mind.  The comparison became more apparent as he spoke, started all his hand gestures while raising his voice, and wore an angry face.    Can't imagine that this dark foreboding set suggested unity, Democracy, and healing of the Nation. 
         
         The Wizard of Oz also crossed my mind.  The little man behind a curtain, but in this case, a little man in front of the curtain with big props, and others beyond the curtain feeding him his outragest lines.
         
         He downright looked ghoulish.

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            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            I assume you mean this?
            
            
            
            
            I suppose its a good thing it won't be based on religion or race this time.
            
            Persecuting the Jews is so 19th and 20th century.
            
            Now we have a new "enemy" to blame everything on, those Trumpers.

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               Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

               Clearly, he was ginning up hate, and drew a line --- "you either are an American or a Trumpster".   If you are a Trumpster you are vile, evil, and need to be dealt with,  you are a "fascist". And you are an enemy of democracy. That pretty much sums up what he was yelling from that staged set.
               
               I must admit this pic is my fav...
               

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                  Fayetteville Fayeposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  And this was bridging the divide???
                  
                  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 59062.html
                  
                  I'll give it to you that Mr Trump said he wasn't calling all Democrats fascist, just as President Biden was only pointing out the unhinged sections of MAGA that promote lies such as a 2020 rigged election and political violence when the leader may face  legal action.

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                  IslandBitesposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  You guys drew the line long ago, as you constantly remind us: You either a Trumpster or a communist anti-american.

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                     Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                     I see your point. However, it is evident, in my view some on both sides feel they can lob stones at one another. Some "on both sides" feel they give back as well as they get. As long as stones are lobbed by both sides, there is no solution to the problem.   It's called a stalemate.

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   Fayetteville Fayeposted 12 months ago

   Have there been other Presidents , pictured, flanked by military in speeches?  I think yes, several including Mr Trump.

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   Readmikenowposted 12 months ago

   Does anyone see the problem now?
   
   
   

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      Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I got the same image in my head while watching him.  He is a dangerous man and needs to be impeached, and his administration dismantled for the good of the country.

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      GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I bet that whoever produced that staging as a backdrop for the speech has gone from pre-event genius to post-event goat. This administration needs kevlar boots.
      
      GA

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      Fayetteville Fayeposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      And his policies are the same? How?

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         Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

         Well you start with telling the populace there is someone to blame all the nation's problems on, call them evil, a threat, etc.
         
         In Mien Kampf it was the Jews that Hitler targeted for all the nation's problems, called them evil, vile, etc.
         
         The way Biden speaks of Trump and his supporters is the same way Hitler targeted the Jews.
         
         Of course I do not believe Biden would ever persecute Trump or his supporters the way the Jews were horrifically persecuted.  Biden doesn't need to arrest all the Trump voters, just Trump and a few other key supporters, that should be enough.
         
         And then there is Critical Race Theory, the New Intolerance, and Its grip on America and the role Biden's Administration plays.
         
         CRT underpins identity politics, an ongoing effort to recast America as a nation riven by groups, each with specific claims on victimization.
         
         If you are of a victim group you are empowered by the Biden Administration, you will be given key positions of power regardless of your qualifications or experience.
         
         Then there is Biden's Ministry of Truth.
         
         You know, now that you have me thinking about it, I really should do an article on how many similarities there are.

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            Fayetteville Fayeposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            It's an interesting topic to dive deeper with an article.  But when you say..
            
            "The way Biden speaks of Trump and his supporters is the same way Hitler targeted the Jews.'
            
            You have to consider Mr. Trump's speech in the same vein with Democrats.

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               Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

               No, because Trump is not President.
               
               Trump doesn't have the power of the FBI, DOJ, NSA, etc. at his fingertips.
               
               Furthermore, did Trump target all Democrats, ever, as vile, evil, threats to America?
               
               Trump has only ever targeted politicians and lifelong establishment types working in the Halls of DC.  The Swamp.  The elites. As far as I know.
               
               I am not talking about how he was characterized, how his words were twisted by the MSM... rather who he actually targeted, blamed, insulted.
               
               That said, I am not defending Trump, I don't want to see Trump run again. And if Biden were truly moving things in a positive direction in the country, he wouldn't be focused on Trump either, he wouldn't have anything to worry about at all, when Americans are happy and doing well they always re-elect the sitting President.
               
               But I do recognize the similarities between Germany of 1932 and America of 2022, and if the economy goes south, or if Biden and his crew miscalculate and start WWIII/Nuclear War, then I definitely see Biden becoming America's first Tyrant.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

   https://www.npr.org/2022/07/16/11118639 … s-strategy

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