So, here is the list for 2024 Republican candidates.

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   tsmogposted 16 months ago

   Most have already decided on who they will vote for in the Republican primaries. Or, it seems so. With that said, are the primaries just an exercise in futility and all should acquiescence to Trump? Or, is there a wild card somewhere in the midst that just may persuade some of Trump's base to switch their vote? How about the undecided? How many are there of those?
   
   Are you a betting person? Here are the odds now at the article; 2024 Republican Party Presidential Nominee Odds Tracker by SportsBettingDime.com
   https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/polit … inee-odds/
   
   The 2024 GOP field: How they win, how they lose by Politico
   https://www.politico.com/interactives/2 … fuls-list/
   
   All the Republicans running for president in 2024, explained by Vox
   https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/2/23/ … tie-burgum
   
   Tracking the 2024 Republican Primary by Morning Consult with a great graph showing there support at this time.
   https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers … on-tracker
   
   Any hidden insights? Does any particular candidate strike your fancy? Why?

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      Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

      In my view, Trump remains the most influential within the Republican party. His populous and conservative stance still resonates with many Republicans. No one really knows the size of his base or those that just truly can look past what some see as character flaws, due to appreciating his past job performance. It will be interesting to see what polls show in regard to Trump in the next few weeks. I think it should show us if voters will still support him with all the legal problems hanging over his head.
      
      DeSantis is gaining popularity with many Republicans due to his conservative policies as well as his strong Governing skills. He does not beat around the bush, and In my opinion, makes very common-sense decisions, and his style is likable. He has a wife that is frequently by his side and a young family. This may be very attractive to some voters that appreciate family values.
      
      Nicki Haley is a rising star, she served as United States Ambassador and could be a strong candidate 
      
      Then we might see Tim Cruz step up as a surprise candidate. I truely like Cruz, and hope he will step up. His experience would be valuable, and he is very conservative, and very common sense, and I feel he would be a strong leader. In my view, we need a strong man in office, to repair the damage of a weak man.
      
      I truely appreciate Tim Scott, however, I don't feel he will have a chance at this point.  This is a shame because he in my view is an exceptional man.
      
      Thanks for posting this thread.

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         tsmogposted 15 months agoin reply to this

         So, is it worth it for the other candidates to run? Is it because they are betting it will help with their career in the future such as 2028 when Trump can't run again.
         
         Let's face it the bulk of other candidates are young compared to Biden and Trump and even Hillary when considering the last two elections. I would bet my bottom dollar there is some strategizing happening.
         
         What I found interesting from The Morning Consult with the graphic; Tracking the Popularity of Potential 2024 Primary Candidates is how many were in the "Never Heard Of" category. Those were prominent for Nikki Halley and Tim Scott. Perhaps, with money and a good campaign there is outside hope as the race tightens for both. Take a peek.
         
         The graphic following that one; Share of Republican primary voters who said they had seen, read, or heard something positive or negative about . . ."
         
         Again, Nikki Halley and Tim Scott had a huge share of the survey participants saying "heard nothing" Using those two graphics it would appear for a strategy they need to get their face out there in a grand scale. Scott was wise to appear on The View I would say.
         
         To me, it looks like, if those two do get their name out there the race just may tighten up a bit. And, of course where are their new supporters going to come from?
         
         Tracking the 2024 Republican Primary
         https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers … on-tracker

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            JimMoodieInVirginiaposted 15 months agoin reply to this

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               tsmogposted 15 months agoin reply to this

               Interesting. I never really see anything by them in the media except Scott's appearance on The View. I mean anything. Maybe that has something to say in and of itself.

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            Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

            In my view, My party (the Republican party) will need a candidate in the wings due to Trump's legal problems.  I don't feel Trump can ultimately win in his legal battle.  I think they got him. So, I am looking closely at all the other candidates, and realistically looking at who can win the primary.
            
            In my view, and I will keep it short --- If we can't vacate the Democrats from the White House the country will no longer represent democracy as I know it.

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               Credence2posted 15 months agoin reply to this

               Sharlee, Is your view that of fascists and authoritarians?
               
               If I don't win on my terms, even if the people vote for Democrats at the polls in the majority, we are no longer a democracy?
               
               Did you not always say that you would respect the will of the majority?
               
               Are you saying now that votes don't matter?

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                  Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

                  "Sharlee, Is your view that of fascists and authoritarians?"
                  
                  I have not witnessed this, yes, I have heard of liberals sharing that view. But I don't find the few issues that liberals label fascism or authoritarianism to fit the definition.  I do see the Republicans are passing legislation trying to protect Republican ideologies. So, there you have it, I am on board with laws that protect my ideologies.  Just as you support laws that you find to support your ideologies.
                  
                  "If I don't win on my terms, even if the people vote for Democrats at the polls in the majority, we are no longer a democracy?"
                  
                  I truely feel Democrats have been tearing away at Democracy since Clinton, methodically ripping it apart.  This administration is headed quickly to the final solution --- the end of Democracy.
                  
                  I actually did say I would respect the will of the majority. That no longer is true.  Over these past two years I have watched from the sideline, and (IMO) watched just about every one of our Government agencies weaponized. I have watched many Americans not question anything this administration does, just believe what they are being told 'wasn't me "Look here, don't ask questions.  I know feel pretty much like "Ken" there is no stopping any of this.   
                  
                  I am lucky, I can cut and run, and I have a home in Mexico, and I have spent more time there than here in the past year.
                  
                  I am saying if we can't stop the Democrats at this point, we will soon not recognize America.

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                     Credence2posted 15 months agoin reply to this

                     "I actually did say I would respect the will of the majority. That no longer is true."
                     
                     That is a major revelation and attitude shift on your part. I hope that those that choose not to abide by the will of the majority of voters leave the country and not take anti-democratic solutions applied here as the alternative.
                     
                     There is quite an expat community, I was part of one once. I just found that all that glitters is not gold, when assuming life in a foreign environment is smooth and effortless.

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   abwilliamsposted 16 months ago

   Funny, I just shared my thoughts on this subject in another forum discussion:
   
   "After everything that the Dems {and Rinos} have put this man {Trump} through, my thoughts of supporting anyone else were fleeting.....I am catching the Trump train and I won't be alone."
   
   This could change, but it is how I feel today, in this moment.

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      tsmogposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      I think with his base your sentiments will hold true and that will occur until the end, which may turn out to be in their favor based on the articles I linked to.
      
      I like the first one about what the odds makers are saying about the candidates. The graph and info is through May 30. Trump has the best odds, but it grew tighter by May 30th. Maybe it is time to put down a bet on a hopeful. It may payoff with a windfall. I don't know.

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   Miebakagh57posted 16 months ago

   I can bet that Trump, will win the Republican ticket again. But that's not the end. Facing biden again is the final blow or whistle.

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      Credence2posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      But he still has to win the general election and that may well not be as certain.

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         Miebakagh57posted 16 months agoin reply to this

         Cred, I think you're not reading me well above. What's the final whistle other than the general election? Thanks.

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