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  1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    Where did all the new forum topics go? With all that is going on in the world, most of the forum discussions have been here for months/years. Have we run out of ideas?

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Kathleen, you could create your own forum topic, I am sure that there will always be some participation.

      It is just with elephant in the room in terms of today's current events, no one wants to talk about the weather.

      1. peterstreep profile image82
        peterstreepposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        haha. Yes there are a lot of elephants in the room.
        One of the biggest is ..the weather.....climate crisis.
        And it's probably a theme no president candidate is going to talk about.

        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          I was refering to idle banter over the immediate weather conditions, not the far more serious matter of Climate Change.

          1. peterstreep profile image82
            peterstreepposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, I know. It was only the irony of it that actually this chit chat about the weather is one of the most serious problems of our time.

  2. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    It is 5:30 pm Sunday. To quote one of the smartest people I know in my personal universe: "Holy Shit!"

    I'm surprised to be relieved.

    Looks like if we want to pick a VP running mate from an unrepresented group on the ticket, it needs to be a white man.(Who'da thought that day would ever come?)

    I just have one other opinion at the moment. If I see one more TV ad criticizing President Biden on immigration after Trump torpedoed the bill the GOP asked for and got handed on a silver platter, I'm going to lose it.

    Now we have a topic of discussion. Let the games begin . . . . .

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I hope that VP Harris can pick up the baton from Joe, those were big shoes to fill.

      The natural racial biases of the American culture already gives  VP Harris an automatic disadvantage, to think that she needs a white man running mate to give her ticket balance. But if she selects one he needs to round out the experience factor much like Cheney did for Bush or what Biden did for Obama.

      While two white men, Trump and Vance are automatically acceptable.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        A white guy as VP is going to appeal to who?

        No one in your crowd... could care less about her picking a white guy, they are going to judge Harris... the VP won't matter to any undecided voter.

        She should pick a woman, double down on what the Progressive new Democrat party is all about... stop trying to cater to a voter block your party absolutely despises... the goal to top 58% of women voter support they got in 2020... carry more than 60% of the women's vote that makes you a lock to win. 

        Solidify the Women's vote in historic numbers while doubling your efforts to win back the Hispanic communities that are fleeing your Party now.

        That's your ticket... if you are going to run Harris as your pick for President, you need to go for Women support... most men have already concluded Harris is a useless ditz, she spent the last 3 years cackling and sounding like a fool... your not convincing any of them to support Harris because you pick a white guy for VP.

        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          You are missing it, Ken it is not about a logic lesson or making a point, otherwise I would support Ralph Nader and Cornell West on the ticket.

          The point is I need to win, defeat Trump and his proposed regime. That is far more important than the candidates and their skin color. To do that I need to attract and reassure moderates that have problems with Trump, that would not be attracted to a radical ticket. I don't care what the far right thinks because they are not on board anyway, and they do not constitute the majority of the electorate.

          How do you know what the thoughts are within "our crowd"? Blacks stood behind Biden while everyone within the Democratic establishment were jumping ship. Biden was our best opportunity to keep progress going while still being electable. That is important.

          I am not interested in double down, but in presenting viable candidates from the liberal progressive side that can be competitive next November.

          I don't give a rats ass about Trumpers but moderates and independents can still be influenced.

          If your theory about the woman's vote were true Hillary Clinton would have won in 2016. So, just aiming to attract the women's vote has proven to be not that simple.

          Only the men in YOUR circles and we know where they stand, consider Harris a ditz. That circle is irrelevant to me and I don't expect nor desire their support.

        2. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
          Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          " a voter block your party absolutely despises."

          I'm not aware of any voter block Democrats despise. Generalizations again.

          And for the record, the "white man" reference was sarcasm.

        3. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Exactly, Ken.   Hell no to Kamala.  Each time I hear her name- I mimic her maniacal cackling.  Wouldn't vote for her for dog catcher.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            I wonder if the issues matter... or is it more about 'first woman President' or "my Party right or wrong' that will get the voters out?

            Abortion...
            Border...
            War...

            At least today's choices offer some stark contrasts, not slightly different shades of grey.

            Remember when it was Romney vs. Obama... and people were saying "What's the difference?"

            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              It is a 2 for one scenario.  There are those who want Kamala because she would be the FIRST BLACK FEMALE President.  Nothing more, nothing less.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image72
                Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                She would mean a complete continuation of the Biden Administration...

                From Transgender minority protection status, to making DEI the law of the land, to Open Borders, to escalating the conflict with Russia, to escalating the war in the Middle East...

                Those policies stay in place, and in some cases, double-downed on.

                Oh yeah... almost forgot... Climate Change... they have big plans for how we are going to pay to them the Trillions they need to save the climate...
                https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/sta … 3757838706

              2. Ken Burgess profile image72
                Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                OMG!!!  You are going to LOVE this!

                Greatest BURN ever created... this is legendary...

                https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1816974609637417112

    2. GA Anderson profile image85
      GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I agree with your "white man" thought. She has to appeal to a nation, not a group. Regardless of what that 'says' about the nation.

      My Gen Z (just barely) son says Harris/Buttigieg .

      How about some speculation: Is it a safe assumption that whatever process is used, Harris will be the nominee? I think so.

      So . . . who will be her VP pick?

      GA

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        As I noted above, in my response to Credence, I think they need to do the opposite and not pick the white guy for VP.

        Going after the men's vote at this stage, especially of whitey, doesn't make any sense... you aren't going to convince them a continuation of this Administration under Harris' Presidency is worth voting for.

        Pick someone popular with the Left, double down on what Democrats truly are... the Party of DEI... the party determined to do away with "the Patriarchy"... etc. etc.

        Biden won last year and he didn't get close to getting 45% of men's votes.

        Women constitute 52-55% of voters. 

        That's the block that Harris has to win over... in historic numbers, if she wants to win this election.

        1. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          For some reason, I sense she doesn't have a lock on the women's vote. At least not as strongly as Biden had.

          If Trump continues on the path of out-Trumping the old Trump he rmay be her best source for turnable votes.

          GA

          1. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            That is why they should double down... making this a woman Vs Trump campaign.

            Its not a woman Vs Trump campaign if there is a white guy as her VP with other white guys running her Administration... that is just an admittance that she is nothing more than a replacement puppet for Biden.

            If DEI and Woman-hear-me-roar is at the heart of the Democrat Party today... and if that is what the majority of Americans want... run on it... double down on it, don't pander to the section of society you stand against in your policies, procedures and beliefs.

            1. GA Anderson profile image85
              GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              yeah . . . I don't think that's the direction they will take.

              GA

              1. Ken Burgess profile image72
                Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                They probably won't... they will try the same old, tired, used-car-salesman approach...

                They will try the 'We are Democracy's Last Hope' pitch, and all the other nonsense to camouflage what they spent the first 3 years pushing onto Americans... and what they will pick up on pushing if still in control in 2025.

                It will be interesting to see how many more Americans have awoken from that mirage since the events of 2020/21... how much the Pandemic, the Riots, played out to their detriment... maybe 2022 was too early, reality hadn't settled in, they weren't able at that time to assess... who knows.

                1. GA Anderson profile image85
                  GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't know what to expect from a Harris campaign. The ". . . last hope" theme seems certain to be the seat of the campaign (as it was for Biden). The talking heads are making a big issue of her 'prosecutor' credentials, which probably means a parallel 'attack Trump' strategy.

                  And then, there will be the abortion issue. The 3rd leg of the stool will be the money giveaways.

                  That's my bet.

                  GA

      2. MizBejabbers profile image95
        MizBejabbersposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        I like your son's idea. I doubt that it will be Harris/Buttigieg, but I could go for that.

        1. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Buttigieg has youth and LGBTQ draw. I'm not promoting him, but he seems a valid choice to round out the ticket. My perception is that Harris wouldn't have much 'cred' with those groups.

          GA

          1. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            There is that... Buttigieg fulfills meeting the Progressive/DEI credentials.

            Its what they need to do, truly represent what they believe, and the direction they want to continue to country in...

            Stop pretending to be the Democrats of the 1970s-1990s... the priorities of the Democrats today are not working/union class, closed borders, and Christian/family values.

  3. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    How many non-white or female faces did you see at the GOP convention?

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      The camera deliberately panned on one or two, but that is hardly representation of their numbers. After all, Trump pays people to wear "Blacks for Trump" placards at his rallies and see that they are placed in a prominent place. But I did see a lot of white women....

      By the way when, I talk about great pairings let's not forget JFK and Lyndon Johnson.

      1. MizBejabbers profile image95
        MizBejabbersposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Yeah, we could also mention John McCain and Sarah Palin. What was he thinking!!? That woman probably cost him the presidency.

        1. Genna East profile image86
          Genna Eastposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          She certainly did, along with how McCain responded to the financial crisis during his campaign and Obama’s growing popularity.

          1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
            Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Genna: A new voice. Welcome.

            1. Genna East profile image86
              Genna Eastposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Thank you, Kathleen.  I am one of those Independents who will never vote for Donald Trump.  (Not in this lifetime, or the next.  Lol.)

        2. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          I miss John McCain as the true "Country First" patriot. I wish the GOP would advocate men of this character sort once again. Sarah Palin was a mistake. But McCain lost primarily because of the blame assigned to the GOP for the 2008 meltdown, that was hard to overcome.

  4. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    GA: My 40-something daughter made the same suggestion.

  5. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    She was a US Senator and a full-term Vice President. Don't think experience will be a factor to most voters.

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Perhaps not, that lack of which did not hurt Donald Trump.

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
        Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        No, Credence, lack of experience did not hurt Trump. But it certainly hurt the country.

    2. MizBejabbers profile image95
      MizBejabbersposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      And before that a state AG and before that I think I read that she was a DA. One article said she was the only candidate to have served at all four levels, local state, federal senatorial and VP, and the ignorant dare call her a DEI!

      From a biographical online Q & A of Kamala Harris:
      Harris served as San Francisco district attorney from 2004–10, California attorney general from 2011–17 and U.S. senator for California from 2017–21 before becoming the first woman, the first Black woman and the first South Asian woman to be vice president in 2020. 2 days ago

      She is obviously not the DEI in the campaign. A candidate doesn't have to be black to be a DEI.

      1. wilderness profile image77
        wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        When Biden went looking for a running mate 4 years ago, the first thing he did is specify it would be a black woman.

        The perfect definition of DEI: first you choose attributes (black, female, trans, gay, etc.), then you look at qualifications.

        This time around it's not nearly so obvious, though - she does have 4 years in politics.

        1. IslandBites profile image69
          IslandBitesposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          The perfect definition of DEI: first you choose attributes (black, female, trans, gay, etc.), then you look at qualifications.

          Not true.

          “If I’m elected president, my — my cabinet, my administration will look like the country,” Biden said in response to a question about how a Biden administration would handle women’s issues. “And I commit that I will, in fact, appoint a — I’ll pick a woman to be vice president. There are a number of women who are qualified to be president tomorrow. I would pick a woman to be my vice president.”

        2. Willowarbor profile image60
          Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Is the assumption that the " best" or most qualified is always to be found in the pool of white males? Their pool must be exhausted first before one is able to look into other pools? As if perfectly qualified individuals don't exist in every single pool? 

          IMO,  for every qualified white male, there is an equally (and many times more so) qualified female, black female, Asian female etc, right on down the line.   If I'm a hiring manager, what's wrong with my desire for diversity?   If I want to hire an individual with a degree in accounting plus 4 years experience, I can find that person within absolutely any and every group.    If I hire a Hispanic woman, why should I suffer the assumption that I overlooked white males?   Or that I changed my requirements to hire her?   Do I have to dive into the white males  pool first and only when it is exhausted and none accept  my offer of  employment that I can move on to a different pool? Is that the only reasonable scenario to some that I am then able to hire someone other than a white man?

          When we see a woman or someone of color in a particular position, why should the assumption be that a  white male was passed over and not that the hired individual was actually just as qualified or even more qualified?

          For folks claiming that Harris was Biden's DEI VP pick,  how do Vance's qualification/experience compare?  Seems like maybe his white male card earned him bonus points.  The entirety of his government experience consists of less than 2 years in the Senate.   He has fewer qualifications and experience than other VP picks who were absolutely roasted in the past.  I don't know, maybe some could say that the first thing Trump looked for in a running mate was a white male.

  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    54% of women voted for Secretary Clinton over Trump in 2016. I sense that he has not won many over in the last eight years.

  7. tsmog profile image75
    tsmogposted 12 months ago

    Just tossing some spice into the caldron of brew. Probably means nothing other than is interesting. According to a recent paper/study by Data for Progress one of the biggest concerns for swing voters post debate was Biden's age over Trump's criminal charges. Now, Biden's age has gone to the wayside. So, how many cups of coffee or bottles of beer will those swing voters consume to decide their vote now?

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5aa9be92f8370a24714de593/de398b46-09ab-4f9d-a367-9338e4cc25a5/image4.png?format=1500w

    Also, Harris was the swing voters choice if Biden stepped down while a larger margin were unsure. In an sense, they got their wish. Will that matter?

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5aa9be92f8370a24714de593/4764671c-ab90-4887-a675-30066602f4aa/image1.png?format=1500w

    See more at . . .

    Post-Debate, Swing Voters Are Increasingly More Concerned About Biden’s Age Than Trump’s Criminal Charges by Data for Progress (July 17, 2024)
    https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/20 … al-charges

    "In the aftermath of the first presidential debate, Data for Progress conducted four surveys to gauge the attitudes of Biden-Trump swing voters towards the two nominees. Across the pooled surveys, we conducted 4,684 respondent interviews, with a sample of 566 swing voters."

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Well, tsmog, we aren't talking about criminal charges any more. We are talking about criminal convictions.

      It is one thing to tell a pollster you are going to vote for a felon. It is another to stand in the sanctity of a voting booth and pull a lever for one. An American President who is a convicted felon? A felony eliminates a candidate for most jobs, much less the highest one in the land.

      1. tsmog profile image75
        tsmogposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Okay . . .

  8. tsmog profile image75
    tsmogposted 12 months ago

    How it's looking for Harris at the Democratic National Convention per . . .

    According to the AP survey of delegates Harris racks up 1,685 delegates of the needed 1,976. (Unofficial)

    AP Democratic Delegate Survey (Last updated Jul 22, 2024, 5:49 PM)
    https://apnews.com/projects/election-re … te-survey/

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      On day one she collected the number she needs.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        I think its perfect.

        Dumber than a box of rocks, has the Joker's cackling crazy laugh, but checks all the DEI boxes perfectly... Harris is the ideal Person to be the poster child for what the Democrat Party represents today.

        Perfect to continue the excellent foreign relations of the Biden Administration going forward, continuing the successes we have had.

        The perfect person to represent America and the direction our country is moving in.

        1. Willowarbor profile image60
          Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Dumb as rocks?  You sure Trump wants to make intelligence the focal point of his campaign?

          https://hubstatic.com/17119883.jpg

          Windmills cause cancer? The guy who looked directly into a solar eclipse? The guy who doesn't understand how magnets or batteries work?  The guy who bankrupted his casino? The can we nuke a hurricane guy? The guy who said that the Continental Army "took over the airports" from the British during the American Revolutionary War back in 1775? Remember when Trump told us about his "meeting with the president of Puerto Rico"

          Trump has no business questioning the intelligence of ANYONE really.

          He's a pathological liar and consummate narcissist who has no real understanding of History or Economics or government.

          So much for Trump uniting the country after getting dinged in the ear. Didn’t take long for his immaturity and childishness to show again with 3rd grade insults.How can people stand to listen to prepubescent messages coming constantly out of the mouth of this guy? 

          Poor old , sundowning Trump being  totally outdone by a really smart, well educated woman. Too fun to watch.

          And checkmate Biden.   Aways one step ahead of Trump. He waited for Trump to saddle himself with JD Vance and spend a week at the RNC to drop the hammer.  All those republican speeches and speakers are now garbage.

          1. wilderness profile image77
            wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Are you confusing knowledge with intelligence?  Can you describe why electrons come out one end of a battery and go in the other end?  Why magnets attract iron?  Would a few megatons "blow out" a hurricane?  Did you know that a WHO group determined that EMF's (like windmills produce) are possibly carcinogenic?

            Just who is the unintelligent one, again?

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Trump has neither the knowledge that pertains to the  topic at hand nor intelligence, so what is your point?  I want my Chief Executive to have both.

              1. wilderness profile image77
                wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                I very highly doubt that there is a single President, past or future, or any legislator in Congress, that could answer the questions I asked.

                But Trump must be able to, right?  Because if he can't pass a test not a single other person can, he isn't fit, right?  Truly, the hypocrisy is astounding.

                1. gmwilliams profile image84
                  gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  +10000000, Trump attended the Wharton School  of the University of Pennsylvania, one of the toughest colleges to be admitted to & graduated w/a Bachelors of Science Degree in Economics.   Trump was a good student throughout his academic career.   Biden, au contraire, was a poor student at worst & at best an unexceptional student.  At the Syracuse College of Law, he graduated NEAR THE BOTTOM of his class-76th out of 85.   Wilderness, apparently Trump was far more astute than Biden.  Biden is the Forrest Gump of Presidents.

                  1. Credence2 profile image80
                    Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    I wouldn't attack Forrest Gump, his humanity more than made up for his intellectual deficits. Any reasonably astute person would have picked that up from the film "Forrest Gump" right away.

                    A  revelation on shallowness of conservatives and their thinking processes.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Exactly...

            And the Democrats have picked up that gauntlet and plan on proving to all America that they can top... or should I say lower the bar... even further.

            Harris looks over at Biden, then Trump, then back to Biden, handing him her drink and says "Hold my beer, you ain't seen nothing yet..."

        2. abwilliams profile image77
          abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, she is DEI to a T, and connects with the people, much as AI does.
          She's just what the Dems need.

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Harris has DEI to thank for her accomplishments?  Not her political track record, which includes being a U.S. senator from 2017 to 2021, and the attorney general of California from 2011 to 2017, where she oversaw the largest state justice department in the country? 

            In contrast, JD Vance spent 18 months as a senator before Trump picked him to be his vice-presidential running mate. You have to look pretty far into history to find a vice-presidential nominee with a slimmer resume than Vance.  Maybe folks could explain how JD Vance is somehow qualified to be VP but Harris was a DEI picK for the same position?

            Yet, I'm to believe Harris has only gained her positions because of  DEI ?

            This is MAGA'S  attempt to erase her credentials, her experience, and her track record. By using “DEI” to describe her, the implication is that she got where she is only because of her race and gender, not because she earned it. “DEI” is increasingly being used as a  harmful and hateful descriptor.

            The term  is being used  to insult, demean, and devalue people and their experience and credentials.

            This is the new MAGA narrative, every minority that has been selected for employment or advancement in the last 8 years has been a DEI hire and didn't earn it.

            The reality is most of them have worked twice as hard as their critics  ever have. Harris  now has 3.5 years of on the job training.

            Ketanji Brown Jackson had  more experience then all three Trump nominees combined, but was still called a DEI hire.

            There's a difference between difference of opinion and not qualified.

            Want to see not qualified? look no further then Judge Aileen Cannon. More decisions overturned then trials conducted.

            Harris has a Political Science degree, Econ degree,  and a law degree.  Then state AG, Senator, then VP...I'm not really sure how much more qualified she could be.

            1. abwilliams profile image77
              abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Per usual we have a difference of opinion. But, if you think Kamala is ready to be the President of the United States, then, of course, you should get behind her.

          2. MizBejabbers profile image95
            MizBejabbersposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            There are some who disagree with you. In fact, this New York Times article says that J.D. Vance is the DEI and explains why. Kamala Harris earned her place, J.D. Vance can't say the same thing:

            https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opin … arris.html

            1. abwilliams profile image77
              abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              The NYT wants my email address in order to read the article you shared. I don't need that rag of a newspaper clogging up my email with spam.

              But I will say this, I just finished reading Hillbilly Elegy, and there are no quotas for hillbillies in the Marines, at Ohio State or at Yale Law School!
              J.D. Vance graduated from Ohio State in less than 2 years, with a double major, summa cum laude.
              He is the V.P. candidate for the Republican Party based on merit and achievement, not prop-up and placement.

              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Amen to that.  JD Vance is an ADMIRABLE young man.

                1. Willowarbor profile image60
                  Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't know, is hypocrisy an admirable trait?

                  Vance 2016... Speaking from his San Francisco home..heading off  "to our respective destinations: tasty brunches, day trips to wine country, art-gallery tours. It was a perfectly normal day, by San Francisco standards...." 

                  He begins..
                  "To many, Donald Trump feels good, but he can’t fix America’s growing social and cultural crisis, and the eventual comedown will be harsh".

                  "During this election season, it appears that many Americans have reached for a new pain reliever. It too, promises a quick escape from life’s cares, an easy solution to the mounting social problems of U.S. communities and culture. It demands nothing and requires little more than a modest presence and maybe a few enablers. It enters minds, not through lungs or veins, but through eyes and ears, and its name is Donald Trump."

                  "What Trump offers is an easy escape from the pain. To every complex problem, he promises a simple solution. He can bring jobs back simply by punishing offshoring companies into submission. As he told a New Hampshire crowd—folks all too familiar with the opioid scourge—he can cure the addiction epidemic by building a Mexican wall and keeping the cartels out. He will spare the United States from humiliation and military defeat with indiscriminate bombing. It doesn’t matter that no credible military leader has endorsed his plan. He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can’t. Trump’s promises are the needle in America’s collective vein."

                  "Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it."

                  Oh my JD... Now a change of heart?


                  The shame that usually accompanies hypocrisy was abandoned years ago by this crowd.

                  I love that Trump has saddled himself with Vance.  This Atlantic article is only the tip of the iceberg of his hypocrisy.

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar … es/489911/

                  1. abwilliams profile image77
                    abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    He has explained this sufficiently. He changed his mind about Trump! I, too, changed my mind about Trump. Initially, I was not a fan, I was all in for Ted Cruz and who was this guy spoiling Cruz's moment? Calling him names to boot!?
                    But then, Trump became President and proved himself time after time.  He actually went to work for the American people, building up, not tearing down!! He followed through on campaign promises, secured the border and gave us energy independence. He did all of this for the American people, with the D.C. Swamp riding him and berating him, attempting to stop him from doing the work of the American people, every step of the way! Trump loves this Country, he is a natural born leader. He is a man, who gives a damn and acts on it. J.D. Vance sees it too!

          3. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
            Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            "the Party of DEI."  YES - and could not be prouder.

            NEWS FLASH - America is not just white men.

            1. Willowarbor profile image60
              Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              I really just missing their point on DEI.   Are we to automatically or generally assume that any woman or person of color in a prominent position got there because the bar was lowered for them?   As if none of them would qualify otherwise?

              1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
                Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Willowarbor: I think for many it is just an old mindset that harkens back to an era when the only jobs a woman was expected to hold was housewife, teacher, or nurse. And minorities cleaned offices and houses, drove buses, and collected garbage. Thank a merciful God, those days are in the distant past.

                1. abwilliams profile image77
                  abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  I admire the accomplishments of Dr. Carol Swain and of Dr. Condaleeza Rice, for examples. Dr. Swain's story is the female version of the J.D. Vance story. One has to admire what they've overcome to succeed. Intellect sets them apart from the pack.
                  There is nothing admirable about Kamala, she's an opportunist. That's the best I can say about her.

                  1. gmwilliams profile image84
                    gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    Dr. Condaleeza Rice is very accomplished.   Kamala couldn't hold a half candle to Dr. Rice.  Of course, Kamala is an opportunist.  Think how she initially advanced in politics.

                  2. Willowarbor profile image60
                    Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    Well, she worked as a prosecutor in the San Francisco DA's office. She later ran for district attorney where she went through a brutal campaign full of racist and misogynistic attacks and won. Then I suppose she did such a great job that she went on and ran for re-election completely unopposed. She ran for California's AG and WON twice. She ran for the senate and won. Some seem to give the impression that she was just sort of given everything every step of the way, the bar lowered for her every step of the way.

                    I believe that she believe that she got her job as a prosecutor because she kicked ass at UCSF's Hasting law school, did her summer associate in the DA's office and kicked butt there. She also passed the toughest bar exam in the nation on the first try, the average number of attempts is five. That's pretty damn impressive.

                    The antagonism toward Harris is incredible considering the history of Trump: sexual abuser, serial liar, cheated on every wife he's had, poor businessman,  limited intelligence and an abhorrent character.

        3. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
          Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Ken: Name-calling. The GOP elevates it to an art form. Can they ever discuss a democrat with verbs rather than adjectives?

          1. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            I believe the insults and labeling is a bigger strength for the Democrats today than it is "the GOP".

            DEI is being pushed from the top down, that is Larry-Fink/BlackRock pushing that down on the world through corporations, NGOs, and politics as usual... it is also policy that the Biden Administration has codified with Executive Orders.

            The Democrats should own it instead of saying everyone that points out that it is racist is themselves a racist. 

            Harris a DEI hire, because from the outset that is what Biden said his VP pick would be.

            If I or anyone else points this out, you may consider it as insulting as you like.  But it is nonetheless accurate.

            And how did Harris handle being the VP for 3.5 years?

            Harris had more gaffs and head-smacking mistakes than Biden... but he had an excuse!

            The endless lying the Democrats and their supportive media create today REQUIRES you to deny yesterday's reality...

            Harris was put in charge of the Border by Biden... they called her the Border Czar, then they made fun of her for never visiting the Border despite being heralded as the person who was going to tackle the Border.

            Today, they are telling you that never happened, Biden didn't say in a press conference in front of cameras and reporters that Harris was being asked to help with the border... nah... those interviews, those articles, they never happened!!!

            Just like the jaw dropping debate never happened!   It was just a bad night!  Biden had a cold!

            Its all La La land insanity... and its getting to the point where you have to be insane yourself to be able to believe it.

            1. Willowarbor profile image60
              Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              So what is your excuse or reasoning for Trump choosing Vance as  his running mate? He is clearly less qualified and more inexperienced than Harris was  at the point she was chosen by Biden.

              Am I to believe that being a white male adds a bump in consideration that allows lesser experience/qualifications to be overlooked?  It certainly does look like that was the case with Vance.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image72
                Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Yeah, he is about as experienced as Obama was when they chose him to run for President. 

                Some powerful people, most if not all the powerful people that matter to Trump at the moment, gave the nod to Vance.

                So Vance it is.

                Harris proved over the course of the last 3.5 years to be just as inept and clueless as Biden.  Her press conferences and interviews were disasters.

                Now they want to "put lipstick on a pig", they tell you to forget everything Harris did or said the last few years, and accept her as this incredibly accomplished, highly qualified, and experienced politician ready to lead the world.

                I'm sorry this is the Administration that gave us the Ukraine war, the warzone throughout the Middle East, rising tensions with China and the alienation of former allies, such as the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

                This Administration has been so harmful to American interests, and the future for American citizens, that no four Administrations combined could top the harm done and the precarious position America is now in.

                You know what is scarier than having a delusional President suffering from dementia running international relations?

                Harris...

                We need a shift away from all those that have had a hand in these disastrous last 4 years.

      2. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        See Kathleen, you created your own topic, without intending to, and one that seems to be quite lively as well. It is probably the most interesting of all right now.

  9. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    We called Hillary "Hillary" because there was another Clinton. I'd like to hear our first female vice president referred to by her title. Thoughts?

  10. Eileen Hughes profile image58
    Eileen Hughesposted 12 months ago

    Everyone must be so sick of hearing about trump.  If we humans did the things he did we would be locked up for years I am over it and glad I live in Australia

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Eileen: So nice to hear new voices in these forums!

      BTW: I yield. Apparently part of VP Harris' campaign strategy is to use "Kamala" as a rallying cry. I'm sure it appeals to young people. I'm showing my age - at least showing how I was raised.

  11. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    P.S. Don't get me wrong, I am Woman (I even know the definition) Hear me Roar! I would love to have a female President in office, but not her. I want the first female President to get there based on merit and achievement, with a sound and grounded respect for, and understanding of...the U.S. Constitution.

    1. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Second that. Wouldn't want Kamala The Chameleon for dog catcher.

  12. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    abwilliams: " I want the first female President to get there based on merit and achievement, with a sound and grounded respect for, and understanding of...the U.S. Constitution."

    With 3 million more votes, we had one who fit your requirements to a T. The manipulations of our antiquated electoral college "stole" (for lack of a better word) her victory from us and stuck us with a man who had none of those credentials.

    "But not her" is what men have said since time immemorial. "But still she persisted" is today's rallying cry.

  13. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    Eileen: Australia is one of the best countries my family ever visited. We saw the New Year's fireworks from the park across the bay from the Opera House, visited your incredible aquarium, and dived the Great Barrier Reef.

    It's always enlightening to see our country from the point of view of people who don't live here!

  14. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    You'll have to share your source on the Hitler comment, because with mainstream media and the Dem Party in bed together, trust is out the window!
    Bottom line, they've worked through any differences and are a Team now, like it or not.

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I'm assuming you still trust FOX even after being penalized millions of dollars for verified lying.

      And you are supporting a convicted felon? But "trust is out the window!"

  15. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    Exactly. The left can argue the case for others they hold in high esteem, but Kamala takes some doing...(no pun intended)

    1. Ken Burgess profile image72
      Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      And to think... instead of denigrating and disparaging Tulsi Gabbard they could have her leading the ticket instead.  Someone with backbone and integrity like Gabbard just couldn't be tolerated in such a corrupt Party.

      Remember back when the joke was that Harris was the best guarantee against the Democrats Article 25ing Biden out of the Presidency?

      Then there was the joke that the only thing scarier than a Joe Biden Presidency was Kamala Harris taking over?

      That seems to be the general direction we go in... what was laughable last year is today's reality.

      It was once laughable that we would ever allow men to compete against women in sports in a serious or professional way.

      It was unthinkable that we would ever expose our children to needless operations that would leave them permanently mutilated.

      It was inconceivable that we would help illegal immigrants gain entry into our country, fly them to wherever they wanted to go, and then lay off American workers so that those positions could be filled by migrants.

      But here we are, all these things are occurring, getting insaner every day.

      1. abwilliams profile image77
        abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Tulsi is too good for the Democratic Party, so glad they've parted ways. They never deserved her. They deserve Kamala. She goes hand-in-hand with the insanity.

        1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
          Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Sorry. I just have to chuckle at republicans decrying insanity when they've enabled it to the extreme for 8+ years now.

          Pot to kettle: "You're black!" comes to mind.

          1. abwilliams profile image77
            abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            You and Kamala should get along fabulously! She, too, enjoys a good chuckle; every time she has nothing of substance to offer.

            1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
              Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              "When Republicans criticize her laugh, it’s both trivial and politically counterproductive. Her laugh is big, genuine and unguarded — a rare feature in any politician." - David Brooks NYT

  16. Ken Burgess profile image72
    Ken Burgessposted 12 months ago

    You know, I just got to watch a clip of Harris being very Presidential:
    https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1 … 6412408132

    And I thought to myself, you have got to be frikin nuts to want that job at this moment in history...

    Trump, they will take everything he has and bury him in the backyard when they are done if he doesn't win... so I get why he is running.

    But anyone else... crazy....

  17. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    I wondered how long it would take! It was a joke; it was funny. I think he was much too kind in attempting to explain leftist women of today.

    Yes, let women abort their fully intact baby.

    Yes let drag queens read to my toddler.

    Yes, teach my Kindergartener about the birds and the bees.

    Also how Steve and Steve do it.

    Yes, let my 3rd grader transition to a cat, just provide the litter box.

    Much, much too nice, that J.D. Vance!

    1. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Thinking the "joke" is about to be on him...

      https://hubstatic.com/17124490.jpg

      Also,  if anyone has watched the Carlson interview with Vance, it is clear that he was serious.

      1. abwilliams profile image77
        abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        LOL... seriously. You are pulling the Swifty card?

        Oh dear, we are worse off than I thought.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image72
          Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          They are pretty smart, don't know how, they have idiots throughout the Administration... but someone up there knows how to plan things...

          Harris can run Left, it will help her pick up women voters...
          Women vote 58% went to Dementia Joe in 2020
          I am willing to bet Harris will pull 60% of women in 2024
          Women make up 52% of the voters.
          Harris wins, the current Administration gets 8 more years...
          This is why they don't want Harris taking over now... they couldn't run her again in 2028.

          Your vote is your power
          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/azCVUQSGAy4

          Amazing how quick they are churning this stuff out... almost as if they had prepared for it all along...

        2. Willowarbor profile image60
          Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          But we were discussing Vance.

          Do you support JD Vance's stance that parents should have a "bigger say" about how democracy functions? He has clearly proposed that people with children should have more voting rights than the childless.

          "Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children. When you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power — you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic — than people who don’t have kids. Let’s face the consequences and the reality: If you don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice."

          Agree?  Some people should have more voting rights than others? Some people's vote should count for more than others?

          IMO, Vance’s dislike for childless people epitomizes MAGAS embrace of openly antidemocratic policies.

          Right from the horse's mouth..
          https://x.com/patrynard/status/1816183353772761538

    2. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Those with no medical experience should not make decisions or comments about the difficult choice women have to make when they are facing an abortion.

  18. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    Again....he is much, much too nice and too kind in his criticism of those hellbent on destroying any hope of a natural and normal future for my grandchildren!

    What does a single, childless cat lady care about their future?

    I touched on where the leftist' priorities are; killing babies, Indoctrinating the ones who survive the womb, encouraging sex changes OR, why stop there, when they can be a cat, a dog, a tree.....

    I am going to keep this short and sweet, I'll be taking this to an article.

    1. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      "What does a single, childless cat lady care about their future?

      I don't know, do they all think the same?  Childless cat ladies are all left wing radicals?    They are some sort of monolith that deserve to have their vote watered down?   Interesting idea that Vance has  to single out  a certain group of people and attempt to reduce the power of their vote.  I wonder who else he thinks deserves only a fractional vote?

      1. IslandBites profile image69
        IslandBitesposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Yup. Left wing women are all single cat ladies, or married mothers hoping for a cat. roll

    2. IslandBites profile image69
      IslandBitesposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      future for my grandchildren!

      What does a single, childless cat lady care about their future?


      Since generalizations are the theme today...


      As a lady who didnt have kids for many years and now have two beautiful (adopted) boys... I care the same before that I care now, and not only for yours.

      I suppose that's hard to imagine for some people.

      Maybe that's a difference between "left"/"right" priorities? You only care about yours, we care about all.

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
        Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Well said, Island Bites. Well said.

      2. abwilliams profile image77
        abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Really? Is that where you want to go with this.
        You care more than I care?
        I selfishly care for only my own?
        I would think you would know this about me after a dozen or so years. I don't want any babies aborted. I don't want any children experimented on or their psyche messed with, tampered with. I want all children to have a wonderful, stress free, worry free, memorable, childhood.

  19. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    But, then again, the left cannot define, "woman". It gets tricky.

  20. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 12 months ago

    “I will be putting forth a nominee next week. It will be a woman,” Trump said. “I think it should be a woman"

    Huh? Should I automatically assume that Barrett is not as qualified as were those in the white male pool of candidates?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … hin-a-week

  21. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 12 months ago

    Trump whisperers please advise...

    "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians."

    He added: "I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote," Trump said.

    What are they fixing so good  that a vote won't be necessary in 4 years?  Dictatorship?   Some of us want to vote in 4 years though?

    This man is definitely sundowning.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- … 024-07-27/

    1. IslandBites profile image69
      IslandBitesposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Yes. He also admitted recently that his administration was full of radical rightwingers. And many are still working with him.

      Buuut... He is also desperate for attention. Kamala is everywhere. I guess there will be a lot of crazy (more than usual) soon enough. He loves to see his face in the news.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, the Cult of Personality machine is in full swing...

        America has the likes of Biden and Harris... to handle issues like:

        Lavrov's Stunning Press Conference On Multipolarity.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeH_NHgusz4

        Is a new world economic order emerging?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-CCFnjTxQI

        So while it seems Trump is focusing on these issues:

        Trump to Punish India & Others Who Want "De-Dollarisation"?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLHlAZnAis

        It is the Biden Administration, which includes Harris, that is allowing everything to fall apart... to our detriment...

        China’s New World Order - How dependent is the West?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQPvA6u8I-o

      2. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        At this point he is running as an authoritarian and most of his base is here for it. They want his agenda implemented and I don't think many of them care what he has to blow up to enact it.

        1. IslandBites profile image69
          IslandBitesposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          At this point he is running as an authoritarian and most of his base is here for it.

          Yup.

          "We're going to give our police their power back... and we are going to give them immunity from prosecution."

  22. abwilliams profile image77
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    I think he is running as a Survivor.
    Any "blowing up" as you put it, has taken place under Obama, Biden and Harris, not Trump.

    1. MizBejabbers profile image95
      MizBejabbersposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      A survivor of what? The old world order hasn't worked for anyone. Maybe it's time we looked to someone else.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        The old world order got us to this point... technology, medicine, food readily available, and too much leisure time...

        Definitely need to trash it all for something else...

        1. wilderness profile image77
          wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Yup.  The highest standard of living for the most people ever in the history of the world.  So it must be trashed in the name of "equality" and we all return to...what?  Feudalism?  Cave dwelling?  We could probably do that at the cost of a few billion lives - at least the corpses would all be "equal".

          1. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            See... you are showing your 'wrong think' or you would say 'old school' racism and sexism.

            It is not for "equality" that the corrupt institutions must be torn down...

            It is for EQUITY... something you're quite incapable of comprehending, you were born white.

            1. wilderness profile image77
              wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              I'm sorry, and I humbly beg your forgiveness. 

              But I disagree about the equality/equity thing.  Sure, Equity is much desired, but so is equality.  All people are born equal, and must therefore all have equal wealth (including those that won't produce anything), equal training (including those with low IQ), equal everything (wonder if that includes equal numbers of wives and how that will work for the women involved).  Everyone must be able to use the dressing room/restroom of their choice, and choose their own gender/sex.  Equality demands it and those unhappy with their sex are not equally happy - we must all pretend they are what they are not.

    2. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Exactly, America has gone to hell under Obama & Biden.  The progression bad----->worse.  This is from Obama to Biden.  If Kamala becomes President, America will be THE WORST it has ever been.

  23. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    For you maybe. Not for the majority of  Americans - who BTW have voted against Trump twice now.

    1. wilderness profile image77
      wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Sorry, Kathleen - in just my lifetime the standard of living has gone way up for nearly every American.  Even the poorest are living what used to be a middle class life.

      And if we go back to my great grandparents the difference is unbelievable - few people understand the hardships those folks faced.  It has faded into history and disappeared, while we pretend it never happened.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Sometimes I come across someone that speaks to the truth of the moment (or matter) with such clarity of vision it puts everything in perspective...

        Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is a controversial political figure for sure... but man, did he nail America's situation on the global stage:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVxu5PqGzl4

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
        Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Is money the only measure of quality of life in America? What Trump has done to the definition of acceptable behavior, much less integrity and character, is the worst thing to happen to America in my lifetime.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image72
          Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Replace one word... Trump ... with Biden ... and I agree completely.

          1. abwilliams profile image77
            abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            I second that.

            1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
              Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Ken and AB: He would be so proud of you - if he gave you a second thought.

        2. wilderness profile image77
          wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Certainly not!  Equal opportunity ranks high (don't try and tell me it hasn't changed in 70 years!).  Luxuries add - larger, more comfortable homes and cars, for instance.  Education matters.  It was rare in my childhood for anyone to have a TV; now everyone has 2 or 3.  Nobody had a computer, now nearly anyone  can have one. 

          The list is endless of how our standard of living has improved in the last 70 years.  Air conditioning - no one had air conditioning then; not it is standard everywhere but the extreme north.  Precious few people work that mythical 2080 hours per year any more.  We all have far, far better health care.  On and on and on.

          1. Credence2 profile image80
            Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Gosh, Wilderness, you make comparisons from right out of the Stone Age.

            Your great grandparents had to get around in horse and buggies, do you really want to compare the contemporary world to that?

            While we always will disagree, I say relative to the cost of things, two parent laborer, latch key kids, and rising costs, we are talking about two different worlds that cannot be reasonably compared.

            I don't want to use 19th century standards to gauge any of my expectations of life today and the need for continued progress.

            1. wilderness profile image77
              wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              The discussion (I thought) was about what our standard of living has done under the current system, in force over 200 years now.  It seems appropriate to go back to at least the early 1900's and follow what happened to that standard of living.  You're the one that always wants to go back 100+ years to find discrimination - why should we stop looking at history?

              1. Credence2 profile image80
                Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Ok, Wilderness, I just don't see any meaningful correlation in your comparisons. At the turn of the 20th Century, America was still basically a rural society well in line with your political aspirations for society today. I don't have to go back 100 years to find discrimination. While you generally ignore its significance, history does become significant and useful for you at least when you are trying to make a point that you espouse.

  24. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    The last 70 years - my lifetime.

    You don't have to tell me about the impact of air conditioning. It is why the South had a population explosion in the 70s. 1,000 families a month moved into my metro Atlanta county!

    In 70 years we've had 7 republican presidents: 1 resigned, 3 failed to served more than one term, two failed to win the popular vote. We've had 6 democrats: 1 was assassinated; 1 served for 5 years, 2 won re-election, and 1 sacrificed his personal ambition to save democracy.

    Historically, the economy has done better under democrats.

    Legally, republicans have been impeached twice to the democrats once.
    And the number of indictments per administration:

    Trump (Republican) — 215

    Nixon (Republican) — 76

    Reagan (Republican) — 26


    Obama (Democrat) — 0

    Carter (Democrat) — 1

    Clinton (Democrat) — 2

    So, on balance, which party do you think is more responsible for all those achievements?

    1. wilderness profile image77
      wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I'll just address one; the indictments per administration.  Did it occur to you that the number you give is awfully low given that the entire might of the US justice system has concentrated on just one man for 8 years?  And there has been just 2 convictions, both garbage?

      Personally I'd have to say that the Democrat party (mostly the far left, but all of it to some degree) has lost their minds and decided to weaponize our entire system in their attempts to remove one political opponent from the scene.

      I also realize that you will not see it that way, that you will deny any weaponization and that you will assume guilt in all the hundreds of indictments.  No need to complain about that, then.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image72
      Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      What I think that may show, is a growing take over of institutions and agencies by those with a similar mindset, or ideology if you will.

      If being a Republican has almost, in and of itself, become a crime, what does that say about our culture and society?

      Republican is related to deplorable, racist, sexist and white. 

      If that isn't bad enough for you, then we can dig into capitalists and corporate loving as well.

      As our society has shifted into a me-first, my-reality, emphasis, as the number of American college grads with Social Justice degrees supersedes those graduating with STEM field degrees, we have seen this cultural shift dominate our media sources as well as our politics and governments.

      It just so happens as this cultural shift takes place, our position in the world is diminishing at almost break-neck speed, almost overnight, during the Biden Administration, we have gone from world leader to being ostracized by the majority of the world as if we were a nation of lepers.

      We chose to run away from one battle while running in to two others, we have funded two wars, both of which will have continued on for over a year or more when Biden's reign of terror is finally over.

      So we have a major cultural shift going on at home... and the decline of our Nation on the world stage.  It will be interesting to watch where it ends up.

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
        Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        "we have gone from world leader to being ostracized by the majority of the world as if we were a nation of lepers."

        Do you read headlines from around the world? Your quote applies to the Trump years. And if you've been keeping up with headlines recently, those same nations are making contingency plans for if he gets into power again - out of fear.

        The level of disillusionment among MAGAs never lessens no matter how many facts are revealed to them. It would be impressive if it were not so pitiful.

  25. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 12 months ago

    " Did it occur to you that the number you give is awfully low given that the entire might of the US justice system has concentrated on just one man for 8 years? "

    These stats have been on the record long before Trump added to them. The US justice system has concentrated on the one man who has been breaking the law. That is their job.

  26. IslandBites profile image69
    IslandBitesposted 11 months ago

    Harris picks Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz for running mate

    Vice President Kamala Harris has selected Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as her vice presidential running mate, adding a popular Midwestern state executive to the Democratic ticket as the party gears up to hold onto key northern battleground states this fall.

    In picking Walz, who's in his second term and also served 12 years in Congress, Harris will have as her No. 2 someone with a proven record of winning over white working-class voters in Rust Belt states while also boasting a robustly progressive record.

    Walz's experiences earlier in his life, as a public school teacher and a member of the Army National Guard, could also buttress his ability to speak to different voting blocs — including veterans and organized labor — that Harris will need to win in November.


    I really dont know him, but I think a younger and known candidate would have been better. Maybe not.

    Thoughts?

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Trump went younger and look what it got him?

      I liked Kelly but understand two westerners would not be an advantage.

      I usually don't prefer governors because running a state is a different animal then running Washington, but Walz served in DC for 12 years. That's enough experience to know where the bodies are buried.

    2. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Waltz was a smart choice, but I liked Kelly's  pedigree better. I understand the decision and why she selected as she did. Walz is the compromise that bridged Harris' left flank and their complaint of a too compliant pro-Israel policy with the resume of a solid midwesterner popular in Minnesota and recognized throughout region as a straight shooter.

      The Pennsylvania governor and Mr. Kelly had issues with organized labor at one point or the other, the very people that we need to win over.

      Indeed, Harris went with her gut instincts and they were good on the correct course.

      1. MizBejabbers profile image95
        MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        I like Mark Kelly, but I was a little worried about his rabid gun stance. I think he may have turned off the gun owners had he been picked. I fully understand why he is anti gun, but I don't think his stance, or former stance if he mellowed out, would have been an asset. Now everybody understands football and "coach". He did clarify his service in a combat zone, but Vance either wasn't listening or deliberately misconstrued what he said.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Do you guys actually like these two or you just trying to get rid of Trump?

          1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
            Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            YES.

            1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
              Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Actually, I was for Sen. Harris in 2020.

        2. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          "but Vance either wasn't listening or deliberately misconstrued what he said."

          With this creep, it is probably the latter.

  27. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

    Within 24 hours the GOP came up with a DUI charge against Walz from when he was 31.

    Glad they got that out of the way.

  28. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

    GOP already attacking Walz' military service. 24 years of service compared to 4 for Vance. You are allowed to retire from the military whenever you qualify to and you can achieve a rank but retire at a lower rank if you don't complete the required time in service to keep the rank. Doesn't mean you never held that rank.

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
      Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Also, serving in the artillery - a combat MOS - and working at a desk in the public information office are two different things. Both needed and appreciated - but not the same.

  29. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 11 months ago

    Trump...

    "If you look at Martin Luther King when he did his speech and you look at ours, same real estate. … you look at the picture of his crowd versus my crowd, we had more people."

    Once again, delusional hyperbole on steroids.  Where is his family? Why do they send him out there to lie and talk gibberish?  His press conference showed him for what he is, a sad,  tired, confused old man.  When does he ever talk about anything that anyone cares about? 

    And why is he calling Harris, Kamabla?   This is so juvenile.

    https://hubstatic.com/17142534.png

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
      Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      cuz she needs an African name.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        "cuz she needs an African name."


        Oh my..
        Why? Can you elaborate.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          no

        2. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
          Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Do you really want her to elaborate. I think she's made herself understood.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
            Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I meant according to Trump, who insisted she has only recently proclaimed herself to be black. He just has that brand of humor.

            Her middle name is Devi, after all. And she does not look black, being part Irish. She looks Irish / Indian to me.

            It doesn't matter in the final analysis, as we we're all descended from  Adam and Eve who were most likely from Africa.  Besides, we are ALL bloody red under our thin layer of skin.

  30. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 11 months ago

    Anyone else care to weigh in on Trump's juvenile behavior of naming VP Harris "Kamabla"? 

    My thoughts, he’s reminding his base how racist he is. Being called by your actual name, that’s something only white people deserve, in his  mind.

    He can’t come right out and use racial slurs and such, because he knows he’ll pay a political price. So he does it in a way that his supporters will understand but that gives him a fig leaf of deniability.

    He thinks he’s scoring political points in much the same way a 5 year old believes intentionally mispronouncing someone’s name is funny.   What a guy...good character?

    1. GA Anderson profile image85
      GA Andersonposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      What about Ron Desactimonious'?

      GA

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        He thought DeSantis was sanctimonious.  He also used Little Marco and lying ted, the meanings  were self-evident.   But the Kamabla nickname? He does it intentionally in an attempt to harm her, to make people see the "otherness" of  Harris.

        I think we can see that it resonates with his base... "She needs an African name"

        His nicknames are childish and show his lack of character in general but this one with Harris hits in a whole different way.

        1. wilderness profile image77
          wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          LOL  Name calling has been the name of the game for liberals since Trump ran those many years ago, and the only thing that has changed is that the childish squabbling has gotten worse.

        2. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
          Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Willowarbor: I agree with you.

          It's easier to slap a label on someone than explain why you disagree with them.

          The more Trump and his followers fall behind in this race, the worse it is going to get.

    2. abwilliams profile image77
      abwilliamsposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I will simply "weigh in".
      A fake name for a fake?!

      Such as Pocahontas for the very fake Elizabeth Warren.

 
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