Trump may well win, my greatest fears realized.....
A contemporary "Reign of Terror" when Trump wins, buckle up.
Bill Maher, and many forum participants on the left and Right has said that Harris would win.
Some have directed me to look at the outrage against women and their reproductive rights promoted by Trump and the Republicans.
I don't see any of that "outrage" reflected in any of the poll numbers. Surely after such an assault the dissatisfaction of women should be quite evident, but as for now the needle has barely moved. Will the Trump surreptitious message of white supremacy be more important to white women than reproductive rights? That remains to be seen and this is the test.
How is it that the MOST toxic candidate ever to run for the Presidency, a felon, insurrectionist manages to run neck and neck against a candidate with none of those deficits? It would not have been 20 years ago that anyone with "rap sheet" as long as Trump's would have been laughed off from the political stage. Yet, the needle still does not move.
How is it that the "so called" liberal press has managed to normalize Trump as just another alternative candidate, while he is anything but that? I believe that the press is ultimately controlled by the same corporate moguls that fill Trump's campaign coffers. The appearance of "even handedness" is a false image and presentation. Meanwhile, they just coddle us along pretending that this is all normal. In such an environment how is the needle expected to move?
Much like what we saw in 2016, I believe that Trump's actual support and supporters are underestimated. They stay hidden but will swarm like the locusts of biblical proportions come Election Day.
Trump and his GOP accessories are going to resist defeat, tie up acceptance of the actual outcome with unsubstantiated delays and stall tactics starting at the state level to end up in Washington. We see some of this happening in Georgia already.
But, it could be simple, conservatives would rather vote for a rabid dog against what they perceive as a liberal candidate. Maybe, that is why the needle does not move?
Finally, this country is not ready for a black female president. While we all pretend that everything is to be evaluated fairly and above board, that is not the case. Racial bigotry, strife, fear and anxiety has been part and parcel of this society since its founding. It is like gravity, it is always a part of your life, be it conscious or subconscious. To get rid of Trump, I would have preferred a white male candidate for that reason. This society spends a great deal of effort trying to convince themselves and the world that this is no longer true. That fear manifests itself in voting behavior and preferences. That could be an explanation as to why the needle doesn't move. We have to remember that there is a chasm of Grand Canyon proportions between 2008 and 2024 and that chasm is called Trump.
Because of the aforementioned point, Trump may win. I hope to God that I am wrong and will eat the crow happily and without complaint. While Maher and others see a Harris victory, I have my doubts because I know the system and I know you....
So, I buckle up for the contemporary "Reign of Terror" that will come when Trump and his people take control, he would probably have me locked up." he would probably have me locked up."
How come?Because Trump in his threats toward the free press and using the Justice Department in his childish vendettas is showing me that any dissent against him and his regime could prove dangerous. I am opposed to Trump, his lemmings and anything for which he stands. Of course, he would want to shut me and others like me up. He would have to jail us all and don't think that he wouldn't do it. I don't care about Gabbard, she is a DINO, who is more in Trump's corner, as I definitely am not. We will fight IL Duce tooth and nail.
Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. have joined in Trump's efforts.
Nothing you can type, or MSNBC can spin, can convince me that Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. are our (American Citizens) enemies.
So if the people I do believe to be legit, that I do believe are fighting for our best interests are ALL lining up to support Trump...
While the corrupt Clinton, Pelosi and Biden types that sold out the American people and got rich off of political power games are telling us he is everything evil known to man...
Well, you know the rest."Nothing you can type, or MSNBC can spin, can convince me that Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. are our (American Citizens) enemies."
I know that and from that perspective we will always be at odds as to who the real threat to the country is.
Yes, I do know the rest....In Mexico, a woman won the presidency. This bodes well for you, Credence.
so don't worry, be happy.
And then in four years, we will say, "I-told-you-so!"
And then, maybe JD Vance will SAVE us.
~ if he possibly can ... its possible that no one will be able to save us from what we are about to allow in this election.
Vote JD TRUMP.
READ UP:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/claudia-sh … president/Why would I be concerned as to what gender Mexico selected to be their President?
Your Trump is like a toxic cloud that envelopes and touches everything, I have every reason to worry.
A resounding NO to Trump/Vance as I raise the banner for Harris/Walz.... so take a peek at Mexico's new president and then tell me you want the Kally-Wally ticket!
In four years HP will not be here... and anyone making posts like you and I do on here, anywhere on the internet, would be a damned fool and heading to jail.
It has already happened so often and in so many places in this world. There is no reason to think that it will not happen in the US too. It is unfortunate that so many people are not able to realize that Kamala Harris and her cabal are the greatest existensial threat to democracy that the US has ever faced, and in just a few years you will be heading the way of those that followed Chavez in Venezuela and Lenin in the Soviet Union.
Dr. Mark, they really don't care. They are under the impression that Kamala is the best when in reality, she will be the worst president ever. If Kamala becomes president, America will become a 4th world country. America will be totally destroyed. I hope Trump wins. Trump wasn't bad at all. They are people who just HATE Trump for no rational reason.
Agreed, this is our future course...
As laid out in a variety of Agendas and Goals put forth by the UN.
This woman is spot on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ADUBcEWz4
There is "the Party" ... which will lead to what you have articulated so well.
And there are those that have been outcast by the Party, those that speak truth, those that have raised alarm.
Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, RFK Jr., Eric Weinstein...
All former Liberal Democrats... now saying to America please, for your own sakes and wellbeing, vote for Trump.
Body language experts say, good for a laugh:
https://x.com/fopminui/status/1843360449498337681
And one for the road, for laughs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_UgeuPKw60
Main contributing factor to the phenom you note... most people under 50 are not swayed by the MSM (Main Stream Media) and the younger you go, the less likely it is that they know anything regarding the Narrative that MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. are peddling... or if they know, they don't trust it or don't care.
X (Twitter), Telegram, TikTok, YouTube, Rumble... these are the sites people use to get their daily sources of information... and again, the younger you go, the more they ignore the messaging of any of the MSM sources of information... they tune it out, consider it BS.
I am on the 50+ side so I am more of a rarity... over the course of the time you have known me I have unplugged from MSM... ten years ago I would watch CNN or FOX or both to compare... now I know they are all garbage and I use it to find reference material to share here on HP and only through secondary sources like YouTube or X.
I never watch TV, or Cable, or anything MSM related if I can help it... because I know it is biased or misinformation being peddled to shape how you think about and see the world.
Journalism in the MSM is dead... it has moved to private sites like Tucker (TCN) and Dailywire... these independent sites and reporters are freelance, they don't answer to those who control the MSM.
Lawmakers investigate Soros ‘shortcut’ to buying radio stations before election
https://alphanews.org/lawmakers-investi … -election/
FCC approves controversial radio station deal involving Soros-backed group
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/troubl … cked-group
These radio stations will soon be little more than mouthpieces for whatever messaging the Soros-backed groups want put out.
The goal at the UN, WEF, etc. is to create a 'borderless world'... to be able to create an authority higher than the Constitution here in America IS the battle that is currently at the center of our political battles...
While a few, like Elon Musk are trying to maintain free speech ... there are those like George Soros that are trying to silence it, control the narrative, and restrict the information people have access to.
This is part of the larger effort as well, to move to a world of Social Credit and Digital Currency... a world with restrictions on speech and no rights to protection or property.
John Kerry says First Amendment is the enemy, as elites try to stamp out free speech
https://nypost.com/2024/10/02/opinion/j … ee-speech/
I admit to watching a smidgen of MSNBC the other day after Felicia came back from taking care of her stepdad for a few days, it's what he watches at night, she was shocked by how most of what they were saying was outright lies. Which her stepfather eats up like it is gospel.
While more people wake up every day... maybe it was being fired from their job for not getting a vaccine after Biden mandated it wherever he had the authority to do so... maybe it was coming home and seeing the police outside your neighbor's home, to find out the little girl who lived there was raped and murdered in her own home by a killer allowed into the country by the very accommodating Biden-Harris border efforts.
Who knows... we have had 4 years of events that should be waking up many Americans... and if the Supreme Court hadn't reversed Roe, I might actually think there was a legitimate chance.
But the Supreme Court did reverse Roe...
And I doubt 1% of Americans take the time to read the press releases and agendas and agreements put forth by the UN. Or the Biden Administration for that matter.
So... a Harris Administration is right around the corner."Twitter), Telegram, TikTok, YouTube, Rumble... these are the sites people use to get their daily sources of information... and again, the younger you go, the more they ignore the messaging of any of the MSM sources of information... they tune it out, consider it BS."
So, Ken why are these sources to be considered more reliable, just another of adverse opinions as far as Iam concerned? I go with what I see over a variety of media sources, but not the hip-hop variety stuff that give me no reason to consider them credible.
We are going to always be at odds, I don't think much of Elon Musk particularly since he decides to link with Donald Trump. You attack mainstream media and link with all these underground sources, why give them any more credibility? Is it because they say what you want to hear?
Don't worry, your people will win because their numbers and attitude will make any other outcome unlikely.You have an excellent point, how do you know that what you see on Youtube, or on DailyWire is on the up and up?
You don't, you have to check its validity... and I don't mean going to a fact check site or asking google or alexa.
Alexa Tells Users To Vote Kamala Harris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CfrMneTL8M
... too funny
...btw that is our future, young Americans will be fed what to believe by AIs like Alexa. The ability to dig around on the internet and find documents and information is already being scrubbed clean.
Remember how many links I provided to documents, websites, videos regarding the Ukraine war a couple years back... weeks and weeks we speculated on here, some information was bad, but eventually a clearer picture began to form.
Some of that information has already been removed... look how fast they were able to make Trump's Assassination attempt drop off the radar on the internet.
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I imagine we are going to find out over the course of the next few months how insightful my perception is.
Now now, you are exaggerating. It won't be THAT BAD.
It is THAT BAD already, this creep Trump should have never moved as far as he has.
My brother who decided to emigrate to Spain last year through some sort of gifted intuition saw this coming. He moved to Western Europe where civility still reigns. I should have went with him.
Trump is my "Sheriff of Nottingham", short of insurrection and violence, I will resist any upcoming Trump regime. I will express that resistance with the pen and my sharp tongue. So, as characteristic of any tyrant and tyrannically based regime, I expect to be jailed in the future.When Trump was president, America was glorious. I don't know what you are talking about. Such hyperbole here. Trump will make America better than it has ever been. Trump 2024 for president. Trump was never a tyrant at all. Trump is totally for democracy.
Are some NOT for real/true democracy? Tend to reality, I say. Real democracy is when the politicians do their job fully conscious of the fact that they were voted in by a majority of voters.
They need to remember who and why they were voted in. They need to address their supporters and also those those who didn't support them, respecting all citizens, no matter what their background, religion or race.
Why people do not see DJT's sincerity, I just don't know. What does he want? What motivates him?
1. A percolating economy which will benefit all of us individually, and the nation as a whole.
2. Fairness in the global marketplace.
3. An end to wars and stupid Power Games and Greed by foreign leaders.
4. Oil and energy independence.
5. A safe nation with an actual border patrolled by agents who are treated with respect and expected to do their job without being led into corruption."I don't know what you are talking about."
No, you wouldn't........
Talk about hyperbole, I wouldn't describe Trump's time in office as "glorious".Well... yeah, you have a point.
"glorious"?
Very good for Americans economically... sure.
Very good at getting new trade agreements, avoiding disastrous new wars... sure.
Glorious... its tough to imagine anyone living up to that word... never mind describing a 4 year Presidency.~ oh come on! Compared to the last four years? (or the next, if the election is stolen AGAIN!)
It was GLORIOUS in comparison!Very good for Americans economically... sure.
Very good at getting new trade agreements, avoiding disastrous new wars... sure.
Glorious... its tough to imagine anyone living up to that word... never mind describing a 4 year Presidency.
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If I could find an antonym to "glorious" what would that be? I would say divisive and disastrous, but whatever floats your boat, Ken.....
Not sure if you two (Cred & Ken) are using a little reverse psychology here.
I can't give up on the American people.
I can't allow myself to believe that women are so shallow, they'd throw their country to the wolves, if it means they keep easy access to abortion!
I cannot believe that our innate need to live free or die, has been relpaced by a desire to be taken care of by Gov, from cradle to grave... or else we'll die!!
But I can believe that EVIL has had its way for far too long and it has really done a number on us!
I will continue to pray for God's Will to be done.I don't have any reason to lie... it is not the outcome I want.
I have learned to deal with reality, to dig deep and find it if necessary... if I don't I lose money when I invest in stocks, or when I invest in a business.
I'm not always right... but I am pretty good at seeing where the road is leading us and why... sometimes things like a Pandemic happen and make all my plans and projections moot.
I learned from that as well, and pay a lot more attention to the decisions being made and policies being passed by the UN and WH...
Those two sources alone are a LOT more informative about what lies ahead over the course of the next few years than anything the media can provide you... their job is to distract, misguide, refocus attention away from all of that.I agree, we have a lot working against us (I don't mean, just you and me) but against our nation.
We should be sounding the alarm, and we will go about it in different ways, because men and women are from different planets, although personally, I think it's progressive leftists and conservatives/libertarians, who are.
The alarm HAS been raised...
From Joe Rogan to RFK Jr. to Tulsi Gabbard to Eric Weinstein...
All are saying aloud what only someone like myself was warning of four or five years ago when I explained why Biden was the worst of all options...
I do admit, I never in my wildest dreams imagined we would be flying in millions of foreign migrants at taxpayer expense, starting a war with Russia IN Russia, and allowing Iran to receive hundreds of billions so that they could in turn fund every terrorist organization throughout the Middle East and beyond...
And that has nothing to do with the efforts made within, with Trans, Child Sex changes, preferential hiring for non-Americans and so on.
This is the moment... there is no rematch 4 years from now... there is no undoing the changes done, and to come, they will be cemented and made part of everyday life by 2028.Perhaps, but over half of this Nation will not comply.
Civil War will break out first.I don't think so...
We may have a Tiananmen square moment or two... that's all.
Canada easily took down the 'Freedom Convoy' Trucker protest.
China easily took over Hong Kong and put down all resistance.
This is America's deciding moment... the people in Hong Kong don't get a redo the truckers in Canada don't get a do-over.
This is the moment when the Constitution gets relegated to a quaint antiquity that has no place in today's 'modern world'... when Nation states become less powerful to set their course than our States have enjoyed within the US, and defer to higher authority (UN, WHO, etc.).
AI... Digital Currency... Social Credit scores... restricted access to information, restricted speech, and the gradual but persistent erosion of right to own property and protect oneself or one's privacy.
And we will all be happy about it... a future unburdened by what has been.
"I do admit, I never in my wildest dreams imagined we would be flying in millions of foreign migrants at taxpayer expense"
I decided to check your outrageous claims for accuracy. This piece from the Washington Post indicates that your statement in this matter was a complete fabrication. So, if you are going to exaggerate and distort factual data why give your points any credibility? So, do I believe a renown journalistic source like the Washington Post or do I believe you?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … iens-nope/Here is information from more legit sources.
Joe Biden Secretly Flew 320,000 illegal immigrants into the United States
https://www.gop.gov/news/documentsingle … mentID=742
Biden admin flew hundreds of thousands of migrants into US using CBP One app
https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-worl … ern-border
I know you have read plenty of MSM nonsense that says these things are not occurring:
'Ghost flights' are the latest GOP effort to weaponize immigration ahead of midterms
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/20/11062927 … h-the-fact
You are dealing with someone who has spent decades working in some fashion for our government, who has dealt with migrant crisis, and knows how our government and our media loves to lie about what is really going on.
So, save trying to prove that I am making outrageous claims, use your time better by reading up on WHY it is happening:
The Biden Administration Blueprint for a Fair, Orderly and Humane Immigration System
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … on-system/
Remember... Trump said NO to the Global Compact on Migration.
United States Ends Participation in Global Compact on Migration - 2017
https://usun.usmission.gov/united-state … migration/
And Biden undid all of Trumps efforts to control the border and slow migration... Day 1.
Biden Signs Executive Orders Reversing Trump Immigration Policies
https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_biden-sig … 01520.html
Anything else stated about how Trump or Biden handled it is falsehoods and election year lies.
BTW - Couldn't read your article... I would never pay to read the Post.Maybe this could be a sort of Amicus Brief . . .
*with the caveat that I don't know if the headlines are real. It's just a meme that fits.
GASorry, I am not convinced. The program clearly requires that those given permission to come here pay their own way. Your attempt to provide credible sources is appreciated though.
"You are dealing with someone who has spent decades working in some fashion for our government, who has dealt with migrant crisis, and knows how our government and our media loves to lie about what is really going on."
The information that supports your involvement you choose to keep to yourself.... someone who has clear partisan bias. I am going to look upon such a person with endless suspicion.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-m … a05b2b20a7
Ken and I are on opposite poles ideologically. While I listen to his discussion, I am simply not agreement with any of it, or most of it, anyway. I won't give up on America either, but not in your fashion. I don't like conservatives and their leanings and want another course. Does that make me a monster? There are millions that agree with me as we are more than a mere faction. Yes, if I were a woman, I would take offense of the government placing unreasonable restrictions on my reproductive rights.
But, again I am affiliated with the Left and do not view the world from your red tinted glasses.
... so both of you are on board with the world economic forum and all their plans to take over the world. oh, roll your eyes, but really ...
Kally-Wally are going to lead us into world war three. I guess you are fine with that.
What happened to the protests against the Viet Nam war? Make love not war and all that?
Trump is not for war and will protect us from invasion, and thereby follow our constitution.
Article IV section 4.
"The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence."Yes, I roll my eyes. Ever since Trump came down the escalator the divisiveness, lies, phony conspiracy theories that never held water have increased exponentially. The fact that there were no major wars during his term was just happenstance, as he proposed aggressive actions against Mexico during his term, more than willing to ratchet that up. I don't recall any major conflicts during Jimmy Carter's term, so, so what?
"And we will all be happy about it... a future unburdened by what has been."
Obedience is a very strong inclination in the human being.
But like elephants driven past their patience, Rebellion can trample the circus masters.Trump didn't/couldn't/wouldn't screw up this Country! That's ALL ON your precious Democratic Party (and their bed fellow RINO's, such as the Cheneys) You know... those currently in charge of all this chaos!!!
P.S. I am fired up! Americans are finally understanding what's up!
This is what Red, White & Blue Americans think of President Trump
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/SHBQD8RBX3Ux9un9/2016 - 3 million fewer votes
2020 - 7 million fewer votes
2024 - ?? million fewer votesIt is like I said, I am as good as any of the political pundits. Short of a miracle, Trump has been elected.
We are in for a world of hurt both on the domestic front and the international. And as I have observed over the last few weeks that the "needle" has never moved regardless of what Trump said or did, it was not hard to have anticipated this outcome.
It is as I said, I KNOW YOU and your inclinations. And Trump and his cohorts masterly played to them as fiddlers would.
This is a great day for the Rightwinger, you will all revel in it.
I will now wait for Trump thugs of his New World order to come and pick me up as threat to his new regime.Are you trying to be funny? Any typical "black woman" would have little to be jocular about.
Trump can expect no support from me and all the resistance that I can muster possible under the rule of law.There is no BRIGHT SIDE, he will raise oppression to a new level and will silence dissenting voices like mine with incarceration.
C'mon now. There is a BRIGHT SIDE to this. Be optimistic. You sound like Whoopi Goldberg on THE VIEW.
There are two "BRIGHT SIDES" that specifically fit your overall view.
For your forum life, the bright side is that you have at least four and a half more years to bash Trump and his supporters, and for your civic life you should be happy that our democracy worked—the majority carried the day.
GAYes, democracy worked this time, but according to Trump and his cronies this may well be the last time it is exercised. And yes, I will attack Trump and Trumpism as I will scrutinize his every move. Did not you right wingers subject Biden to the same? The cauldron will continue to be stirred until the broth boils over, such will be America's fate.
You need to back up that kind of statement—it just doesn’t hold any truth. It’s time to say, “Prove it.” I genuinely hope you’ll scrutinize Trump’s every move, starting with his speech last night. It’s a great place to see exactly what he’s promising. This will give you a solid foundation to evaluate whether he’s delivering on those promises.
It’s important to understand exactly what to critique and base it on his actual words—not recycled media claims or promises he might never have made. Knowing the source lets you evaluate him fairly, without the filter of media spin. Get to know facts, before pinning Trump with lies.
This is day one --- are you willing to start at a place of what he says, not what they say he said? Facts are facts, they don't change or denature unless someone works to put them into another context.So, Sharlee
https://www.americanprogress.org/articl … -52-weeks/
https://www.americanprogress.org/series … n-america/
Instead of saying what the Democrats have done, let’s talk about what they haven’t done. that is the focus of my complaint. Trump claims he knows nothing about Project 2025 and I don’t believe him for a minute. It contains all the tyrannical and anti-democratic proposals usually associated with Republicans. Project 2025 is a suit tailored for Trump, who would think that he would not wear it? The material link can be voluminous but such is the nature of a comprehensive answer.
the Republican Party in its platforms and policies remain a natural enemy for me and my community. Trump’s advocacy of “stop and frisk” is the first and stronger indication that he has no appreciation of civil rights and bill of rights, and yet I am to give him consideration? This is a lawless attack on the Black community, explicitly saying that the Bill of Rights which guide police conduct does not apply to them. It can be at least be said it is more about what the Democrats are not taking away as compared with the Republicans.
I continue to write and to antagonize or stimulate depending on your point of view. As long as I write, my material is generally available to all who wishes to listen and consider, as for the others, they do not matter, anyway.I'm stepping away from this conversation. Why? Because you've circled back to everything Trump-related. I asked you a straightforward question: What have the Democrats done for Black citizens in decades? It's clear you won't answer.
I could debate every point in your first article, and the second one is absurd—especially since Trump has distanced himself from Project 2025, making it speculative at best.
I've had a profound realization: I've watched a man stand resilient against an overwhelming machine determined to break him. I kept faith that the majority would see through the noise and rely on their inherent American common sense—and they did. This great majority voted decisively for the man I supported. Trump's recent speech was a heartfelt plea for unity. He can’t do more than speak to his commitment to work for all Americans. Yet, many cling to his past words to fit their narrative, ignoring his current promises.
I'm moving forward, done with debating Trump or defending his merits. I’m not wasting energy on anything lacking facts or current relevance. I’ve gone to great lengths to share my views, only to encounter diversions, as your comments have demonstrated. It should trouble you that you can't answer my question, but it's clear it doesn’t. I sit with the majority and will support the new president. I will also have my eyes wide open to how he governs. As I did his last term. I will respect my feelings and my intelligence to judge, as I did in his last term. I will keep in mind--- I hired him to do a job.
From now on, I’ll only engage in discussions that foster meaningful conversation—intelligent dialogue with openness and genuine responses. Diversions speak volumes about a person.Damn it, Sharlee, it is Trump related, who is the lord and master of the Republican Party? Trump and today's Republican Party are one in the same.
Do you read? You and I have been debating this for years now, and i gave you an answer. While I scrambled to find recent Democratic Party achievements to crow about, what legislation there was in Washington that would have been to our advantage has always squashed by Republicans, Obamacare being a case in point. Democrats, they are not actively engaged in turning back the clock on civil rights gains for us or promoting flintstone concepts to revisit the past from the standpoint of the progressive thinker. That may not be the ideal, but it is better than the other side.
Yes, I will confess to you again, I loathe Trump and you know that after years of corresponding. I always have going well back into,the 1970s and 1980s, and I was around for it and do not forget. I did not like his phony reality show taking advantage of washed up entertainers. I did not like his unwarranted attack on Barack Obama's citizenship, which had the stench of racism all over it. I did not like his references to Haitians as of late. I did not like is racist and misogynistic style of intimidation against Kamela Harris. And those are just a few examples. So, there is a lot not to like. I will not let any man refer to me using a racial slur, yet expects me to vote for him. Regardless of what you think, words matter. The proof is in the election returns, 87 percent voted for Harris. Since you don't seem to understand what I am telling you, perhaps you could ask one of them why? So much for AA shift to the GOP, huh?
I am a fair person, I will give Trump credit when it is due. But with him I start negative as to his policies and intent until I have evidence to believe otherwise. He will have to climb over a high bar. That's fair.
I don't care what a serial liar like Trump says that he "distanced" himself from Project 2025. That, too will only be substantiated for me once he takes office and his policy prescriptions are actually rolled out.
If his past words can be considered an accurate guide as to the veracity of his current ones, that is not a great record.
I have answered your question, put aside your tin ear if you please and listen.
You worship this Trump fellow having the most foul and soiled record. I don't, but as I say to each his or her own....
Just how open and genuine are you really? You worship this man Trump like he is a God. Your purported objectivity is feigned at best, you are as partisan as they come. Just admit it.
But, I can understand the "run rabbit run" attitude, and its ok. My messages have to be resonating with someone, so I keep my quill sharp and at the ready.My gosh, do you not see what you do? Oh well, I tried hard to have an open conversation about your party, not mine. Been there done that. It would seem to me it would be me doing what you are doing if I dwelled on debating the Republican party. like say, done that, had hoped to discuss your party. Does it not seem a bit odd you can touch on the subject?
Catch up with you some other time.Well said. Your quill does not disappoint.
I think this election is 'the broth boiling over.' In a few months, we will see what actions follow the hyperbole.
Keep your quill at the ready.
GAAgain, with the extreme hyperbole. Nothing negative is going to occur under Trump as it DID under BIDEN. Get real now.
Thank you Gus. A mature voice of reason & logic.
You will have a long wait. Had it gone the other way there is little doubt that many would soon be looking at the doors to the dungeon; the history of the last few years has shown that.
But it didn't, and Americans are safe.You watch too much MSNBC...
You don't realize, that the people on MSNBC the Morning Joe and Maddow types... are complete nut jobs... what they spew is not just nonsense and hyperbolic lies... it greatly hurts people like you who take what they have to say and lend it ANY credibility...
That would be the equivalent of me tuning in to Hannity on FOX and believing his hyperbolic dramatization of events... though I think those on MSNBC are even worse... none of them are good to watch or listen to.
When you unplug from the extremists (and those on MSNBC are extremists for sure) and try to find non-biased sources, you will feel better about the world.The point still remains that you were wrong in your winner and I was correct. Trump is a jerk, he has proved it in every way imaginable, and that goes far beyond MSNBC. But, this election and its outcome makes it clear to me the true nature of the America people.
"But, this election and its outcome makes it clear to me the true nature of the America people."
It does, doesn't it? A great people, a people ready, willing and able to stand up and do what they need to do to survive. A people rejecting lifetime charity, recognizing that what one earns belongs to the earner. A people that understands that nature triumphs emotions and desire, that we cannot change what we are because we want to pretend we are something else.
Americans are a people that love their country, think it is great, and wish to keep it rather than give it away. While they give more than any other people in the world, there IS a limit to their generosity and it must be recognized.
You are privileged to be an American. Be proud of it.It does, doesn't it? A great people, a people ready, willing and able to stand up and do what they need to do to survive. A people rejecting lifetime charity, recognizing that what one earns belongs to the earner. A people that understands that nature triumphs emotions and desire, that we cannot change what we are because we want to pretend we are something else.
That is not what I meant by my comment
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You are privileged to be an American. Be proud of it
No longer....
I don't think so... I believe your view is skewed...
I think many Americans are upset... upset that they are struggling to get by, to pay the bills, to find a way to live the "American Dream"...
And while they are struggling they saw a Democrat Administration -Government prioritize Wars and Migrants over the needs of Americans.
Fair or unfair that is what many felt to be true...
Many probably also have a bad taste in their mouths from the last 3 Democrat primaries... they wanted Sanders and got Clinton... they never really got a chance to choose in 2020... Sanders was ahead in that one too, and then they cut it short, told everyone to get out of the race and stuck Dementia Joe in their as the Nominee.
And then the debacle we have just been through with his debate and then the default to Harris.
You need to put the blame where it belongs... not on the American people... but on a very corrupt Democrat Party that has worked its way into being everything they used to say they hated about Republicans... they are sellouts to the Donor Class... the Corporations and Financial Institutions that could care less about the American people.
When you honestly evaluate your own party... its corruption and flaws... you will stop being incensed with Trump and start realizing the problem stems from within.
The American people WANT to vote for a woman and/or a POC... I would think Obama's back-to-back Presidencies are enough proof of that...
But Americans are not so easily gaslit... they do not like being lied to...
And the lies and priorities of the Democrat Party (the establishment) became too obvious to too many.I put the blame on a fundamentally racist, misogynistic, xenophobic culture, where Harris never really had a chance from the beginning. I have expressed that concern weeks ago, yesterday confirms it. Only here can a convicted felon take hold over a law abiding civil servant.
I will never forgive Trump and unless he is exemplary never give him the benefit of the doubt in anything and suspect anything that he puts his hands to.
Trump is still a jerk and he confirms it with his own foul words and statementsAnd yet... we had President Obama x2...
And we would have probably had our first woman President as well... if the Dems had gotten behind someone like Tulsi Gabbard, someone real, someone who had served in the military and in war, someone with backbone that was not clearly a sell-out that would say whatever she was told to say to get elected.
Put American's first again.... not endless wars... not millions of migrants... and not social outliers that the majority do not support, like men competing in woman's sports and making those men a protected minority... that sums up why this election went to Trump, and not Harris.tulsi Gabbard in a Democrat in name only, she does not represent what I consider Democratic principles and ideology.
Can the principles and ideologies keep our Nation solvent? Can we pay for and eat principles, can we pay rent with ideologies? Will our dollar be worth anything with both?
Again we Blame that all on Biden, when I hold Trump responsible for his ham handed management of the Covid that got us to this problem point in the first place.
My opinion, of courseI was responding to your comment --- "tulsi Gabbard in a Democrat in name only, she does not represent what I consider Democratic principles and ideology."
I didn’t mention Biden at all, did I? My comment was focused on your perspective, not on him. It was entirely about Tulsi, and it seems like you don’t feel she aligns with your principles or ideologies. Tulsi embodies common sense and is committed to building solutions rather than tearing things down. What I meant in my comment is that you appear to believe a country can thrive solely on your personal ideologies and principles. While that would be ideal, sustaining the world’s richest nation requires more than just grandiose rhetoric.I hear you, but principles and ideologies are the foundation and the glue that keeps us all on the same course and that means following the rules of governance established for us so long ago. Those are the rules not necessarily my personal ideology and principle, but not yours either, though.
You have your right to your opinion regarding Gabbard, it is conservative and I don’t share it.
Maintaining this society has to mean that we adhere to the road map that keeps us on the road without exception.
Your last comment spoke of bread and butter issues as the reason Trump was ultimately selected, I rebutted that."I hear you, but principles and ideologies are the foundation and the glue that keeps us all on the same course and that means following the rules of governance established for us so long ago. "
I understand where you’re coming from, and I agree that principles and ideologies are indeed the foundation that holds us together and guides our governance, rooted in long-established rules. However, it seems that many Americans have become uncomfortable with the direction in which the Democratic Party has moved, feeling that core principles have been compromised. I can acknowledge that a decade ago, our goals were more aligned, and for many decades, shared principles and ideals brought us together.
But now, we’re seeing a stark shift in the party’s direction that many Americans simply don’t support. The essence of what binds us—what you refer to as the “glue”—seems weakened by these changes. It does feel as if we’re now two different groups, with diverging visions for the future. It’s blunt, but it’s a reflection of what I observe, too. This ideological divergence has driven many to support a path that preserves the course we built, a course that has historically made the nation strong and unified.Just as I am uncomfortable with Trump and the GOP that he heads.
Yes, the difference was not as stark 10 years and even less so 10 years before that.
I am seeing a shift in Republican/conservatism with which I cannot abide.
We are two different groups and I am afraid that that schism will be become more pronounced in the future rather than less. I question whether the course taken by the majority of the votes really is about preservation or are they just taking us down a new dark and sinister path.I see where you're coming from, and I do agree that the growing divide between the two groups is concerning. The way things are playing out, it feels like this split could deepen rather than heal, and that’s a troubling thought. The question you raised about whether the majority’s vote is truly about preserving the country or taking us down a darker path is valid. Many voters are choosing out of fear of losing something they hold dear, while others see those choices as a way to push for necessary change. It’s hard to ignore the fact that, for many, the direction we’re heading feels uncertain and even dangerous.
However, due to the election results--- I think the Democratic Party, in particular, should take a step back and seriously evaluate whether some of their positions are pushing too far beyond what many people can accept. The results of this past election might be a sign that certain policies or rhetoric, especially those that felt extreme to some, have been a turnoff to voters in the middle. There’s a real need for them to reassess how they’re communicating their message and what they’re prioritizing. It's not about abandoning core values, but perhaps scaling back on some of the policies that are alienating large swaths of the electorate.
Instead of deepening the divide with more aggressive tactics or divisive rhetoric, I think this election should push the Democratic Party toward healing, finding common ground, and mending the rift. If they don’t, I worry the schism will only get worse, leaving us more fragmented than ever. It’s a critical time for both sides to recognize that we can’t keep pushing further apart. Instead, we might consider focusing on uniting around the values and goals that can bring us together as a nation.True, our side is fearing something that we had that would be taken away.
Trump had made statements and comments about our national governance that no candidate has ever made and should never make. The Republican Party could have selected a candidate who is conservative but simply had so much less baggage. But they went with the extreme in Donald Trump. That just served to widen the divide that much more.
Yes, we need to do a postmortem, but issues we are passionate about will not disappear as a result. They are caustic and abrasive issues that create chasm size divides in themselves. I am most certain, for example, that despite Trump’s denial, he and the Republicans propose a national abortion ban. That is not going to go down easy.
I do not like the trend toward religiousity forcing public school students to study the Bible. This is already going on in the reddest of the red states. That, too, spells trouble. That is a Republican point of view.
I would like the Republicans to recognize that extreme right positions are going to be continually challenged and make reconciliation between us impossible. The Trump administration term could well be overrun with strife and resistance from those that do not want the morality of others imposed upon them.
The Republicans have become extreme in their views and even though Trump may have won on bread and butter issues, this is not over. Trump and the conservatives may need to come away from the precipice as pushing unpopular positions will not sit well with the other half. Four years of Strife and conflict will be the order of the day, if they do not step back"I am most certain, for example, that despite Trump’s denial, he and the Republicans propose a national abortion ban. That is not going to go down easy."
He has stated that he would never sign an abortion ban and believes that states will continue to push for abortion rights through ballots, as we saw with Florida's Amendment 4 in the November 2024 elections. While the majority of voters in Florida supported the measure, it did not reach the required supermajority, meaning the state will continue with its six-week ban. This outcome is significant, as it reflects the division on abortion rights. However, in other states, where similar measures were on the ballot, the majority of voters passed them, securing abortion rights in those areas.
You feel that the Republican party could have chosen someone else--- we had a primary, this is one of the bricks of our democracy. The Democrats should have done the same when Biden stepped away... It is very possible things could have gone differently.
In the 2024 Republican primaries, there were several candidates who initially ran against Trump. Some of the major challengers included Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Asa Hutchinson. Additionally, Doug Burgum, Tim Scott, and Chris Christie were part of the field. Despite these competitors, Trump's dominance in the race was clear.
"I do not like the trend toward religiousity forcing public school students to study the Bible. This is already going on in the reddest of the red states. That, too, spells"
I don't know much about this subject. I’m Christian, and both my children and grandchildren attended Catholic schools, as did my husband and I, so I admit I have a personal bias when it comes to religion in schools. I assume you're referring to public schools, which makes this a bit of a challenging issue for me. As a country with a rich diversity of beliefs, I think religion should be primarily handled within the family. Parents should have the right and responsibility to guide their children's spiritual education, rather than having it dictated by public institutions."While the majority of voters in Florida supported the measure, it did not reach the required supermajority,"
So now we don't need a simple majority but we're going to have the hurdle of supermajorities thrown in front of us? Anything to subvert the will of the people. 57% of the people voting for Reproductive Rights wasn't enough. Ridiculous.
Trump repeatedly refused to answer the question that if a National abortion ban crossed his desk if he would veto it. He should have answered the question.I know what he said about abortion bans, but I wont believe it until I see him actually veto a bill with such a provision in it. With him, the proof always has to be in pudding with me.
As for VP Harris as the choice, there wasn’t much choice, the selection process became much more time consuming once selections are made outside the Biden/Harris ticket. On short notice after Biden stepping down what was the alternative? Hubert Humphrey also dealt with a Lyndon Johnson who in March, 1968 said that he was not running for a second full term. Humphrey had 8 months, Harris had only 4.
We agree on your last paragraph.
Talk about projection. Trump isn't a jerk. It was Biden-Harris who were jerks of the highest order. TDS has resurfaced to another new level. Trump win so eat crow.
"TDS has resurfaced to another new level."
The "nature of the American people" assured a Trump victory from the beginning, I knew that this was going to happen, so there is no Crow for me to eat. I now wait for him to be the tyrant that he promised us all that he will be.
TDS will only get worse, for the next 4 years it's "helter skelter". The dust will never settle.I hate to point this out, but you do realize many Dems must have flipped due to the sheer number of votes Trump got.
Trump got about the same amount of votes of last time didn't he?
Makes you wonder... did Democrats just sit at home this time?
Or was there really something about those "Mail In Ballots" and changes in the 2020 election being how Biden got those few million needed votes AFTER election day in 2020?Looks to me as if you are correct; there are some 15,000,000 votes "missing" this year. Granted, the count is not complete, but it will not end with anything near that figure.
This while I continue to hear that one reason Trump won was his big effort to get people to register and vote. Harris did the same - it is notable that she appeared to gain a lot from college kids voting for the first time.
So WAS there something about the "mail in ballots" and the huge influx of votes after election day in 2020? We'll never know as we'll never check; liberals have made it clear for years and years that elections are safe and because of that there is no need for checking, caution or anything else.I believe that is the real reason Trump won because too many Democrats were forlorn.
This is fundamentally a racist and misogynistic society. Becauase of that Harris really did have a chance from the outset.
Yes, Trump did well, but I bet if the Democrats offered a white candidate things may well have been different. Trump is toxic and soiled beyond mention, but only in this retrograde culture could such a man succeed.
I agree—it’s odd that some people can’t see that democracy worked. A majority made a decision, and maybe it’s time to respect that instead of acting as if this significant majority should be dismissed. I understand having some concerns, but why not give Trump a chance? Think about who the voters chose last time. It seems many have realized their mistake and expressed it through their vote this time. This is how democracy, as a rule, balances things out. I am thankful I see democracy working, after what I have watched over the last decade.
I’m still waiting for you to point out something positive the Democrats have brought you. You seem to think they’d be some kind of savior.
Do you believe in democracy? Do you feel you can’t respect the voice of the majority? Right or, at times, wrong, democracy has been the foundation of our great experiment as a nation. All I ask is that you give the new president a fair chance. No, he wasn’t your choice, but isn’t it better to hold off judgment and see if he succeeds rather than assuming he’ll fail?
I must remind you it was not Trump looking to move toward a " New World Order". That would be the Democrats. John Kerry traveled the world using those words...
One thing I can assure you--- Trump, as he said last night --- "Success is going to bring us together, and we are going to start by all putting America first. We have to put our country first for at least a period of time. We have to fix it, because together, we can truly make America great again for all Americans. "
My hope for you is that you will take some downtime, and try to look beyond what you feel right now. Borrow a wait-and-see attitude. There will be time to be dissatisfied if given a reason. I hope you listened or read what Trump shared last night. I think this is a good place to start. If you only take what the media may dish up you will not hear his words, but their words skewed to serve a narrative. The speech was all his, he spoke without teleprompters. They were there, but he spoke openly.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … ngNewsVerpCan I have a moment to grieve this 9-11 level event in my own way? I am now looking for my sack-cloths. Rest assured I will certainly address your question as to how Democrats have been of greater benefit to our community than any Republican.
I can respect the will of the majority while I don't have to agree with it. No more than you did while Biden was President. I despise and hold Trump in utter contempt, I cannot be that gracious about giving him a chance, sorry.
I will always judge him negatively, initially, and it will be up to him to prove that my fears and concerns are unfounded. That will have to be well up the bar.
Trump talks about retribution against the enemies within, well I am one of those enemies. Will he have me locked up? The thin skinned narcissist will tolerate no dissent, the mark of a dictator and tyrant. He will get nothing from me.
We are not together but remain eternally separated in our goals and objectives, this "together talk" is just more Trump BS. The country as a United entity is finished as far as I am concerned.
It is what I am "thinking" right now that tell me that grave danger will begin next January 20th. I will take the role of the canary in the coal mine and remind everyone of it. "you only have yourselves to blame, after all you voted for him".I’ll proudly say that I voted for him—just as I did in 2016—and I’m proud to have watched him work to build this country to greatness before COVID hit. I’m a person who values facts, not wasted time worrying about things that may never happen. His track record speaks for itself, and I have full faith that he’ll accomplish even greater things in his next four years.
I also want to share that I’m being more selective about who I engage with. I’m done getting pulled into negativity that doesn’t make sense to me. To save you time and energy, I won’t be responding to posts that spread baseless negativity. I’m always open to any chat that’s factual and current, but the toxic conversations only bring frustration and offer nothing of value."I’m always open to any chat that’s factual and current, but the toxic conversations only bring frustration and offer nothing of value."
Factual and current depends upon the point of view of the observer. Just don't make a habit of running when you don't get to hear what you want, it reduces overall credibility. I can only be content with getting the word out regardless of who may be listening or not. That may have to be good enough...."Factual and current depends upon the point of view of the observer"
No facts are facts, views are views.
Fact --- a thing that is known or proved to be true.
View --the ability to see something or to be seen from a particular place.
This is where facts get skewed to support the view of a narrative.
THANK YOU, DEAR SHARLEE. TDS has resurfaced now at FULL SPEED. Well, I have better things to do. To those who will blame, even demonize Trump for their ills-they should look inward & create something constructive. That is all I have to say.
Grace, it’s clear that they’re unable to see that their own side is doing exactly what they accuse Trump of. It’s so obvious now, and honestly, it’s far beyond the point of trying to convince those who are stuck in that mindset. I’m choosing to give them no attention, no air, hoping that might be more effective than wasting energy trying to reason with them.
Cred, I LIVED with Biden-Harris for 4 years. Now it is YOUR turn to live with Trump-Vance for 4 years. Touche.
You may rest assured that he and his administration will not see a Moments peace from me over the next four years
Oh boo hoo, boooo hoooo. Stop whining man. This is getting a BIT MUCH.
I am glad Donald Trump won. Sitting, in Dubai, I can take a panoramic view of what is happening in America. Trump's victory is good for America and the war-mongering crowd will cease to exist. There are many dangers, not the least being to try and bump off a leader who wishes to create a new order.
An article from Mr. David Frum from the Atlantic Monthly that explains my position on the impending Trump Presidency. Because of paywall, I made it available for you to read.
Donald Trump has won, and will become president for the second time. Those who voted for him will now celebrate their victory. The rest of us need to prepare to live in a different America: a country where millions of our fellow citizens voted for a president who knowingly promotes hatred and division; who lies—blatantly, shamelessly—every time he appears in public; who plotted to overturn an election in 2020 and, had he not won, was planning to try again in 2024. Above all, we must learn to live in an America where an overwhelming number of our fellow citizens have chosen a president who holds the most fundamental values and traditions of our democracy, our Constitution, even our military in contempt. Over the past decade, opinion polls have showed Americans’ faith in their institutions waning. But no opinion poll could make this shift in values any clearer than this vote. As a result of this election, the United States will become a different kind of country.
When he was last in the White House, the president-elect ignored ethics and security guidelines, fired inspectors general and other watchdogs, leaked classified information, and used the Department of Homeland Security in the summer of 2020 as if it were the interior ministry of an authoritarian state, deploying U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Coast Guard “troops” in American cities. Trump actively encouraged the January 6, 2021, insurrection at our Capitol. When he left the White House, he stole classified documents and hid them from the FBI.
Because a critical mass of Americans aren’t bothered by that list of transgressions, any one of which would have tanked the career of another politician, Trump and his vice president–elect, J. D. Vance, will now try to transform the federal government into a loyalty machine that serves the interests of himself and his cronies. This was the essence of the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025, and its architects, all Trump fans, will now endeavor to make it become reality. Trump will surely try again to dismantle America’s civil service, replacing qualified scientists and regulators with partisan operatives. His allies will help him build a Department of Justice that does not serve the Constitution, but instead focuses on harassing and punishing Trump’s enemies. Trump has spoken, in the past, of using the Federal Communications Commission and the Internal Revenue Service to punish media organizations and anyone else who crosses him, and now he will have the chance to try again.
Perhaps the greater and more insidious danger is not political repression or harassment, but corruption. Autocratic populists around the world—in Hungary, Turkey, Venezuela—have assaulted institutions designed to provide accountability and transparency in order to shift money and influence to their friends and families, and this may happen in America too. This is not just a theoretical threat. As loyalists take over regulatory agencies, filling not only political but also former civil-service jobs, American skies will become more polluted, American food more dangerous. As a result of this massive shift in the country’s bureaucratic culture, Trump-connected companies will prosper, even as America becomes less safe for consumers, for workers, for children, for all of us.
American foreign policy will also reflect this shift toward kleptocracy. In his first term, Trump abused the powers of his office, corrupting American foreign policy for his personal gain. He pressured the Ukrainian president to launch a fake investigation of his political opponent; altered policy toward Turkey, Qatar, and other nations in ways that suited his business interests; even used the Secret Service to funnel government money to his private properties. In a second term, he and the people around him will have every incentive to go much further. Expect them to use American foreign policy and military power to advance their personal and political goals.
There are many things a reelected President Trump cannot do. But there are some things he can do. One is to cut off aid to Ukraine. The Biden administration has three months to drop all half measures and rush supplies to Ukraine before Trump forces a Ukrainian surrender to Russia. If there’s anything in the American arsenal that Ukraine might successfully use—other than nuclear weapons—send it now, before it’s too late.
Another thing Trump can do is to impose further tariffs—and intensify a global trade war not only against China but also against former friends, partners, and allies. America First will be America Alone, no longer Ronald Reagan’s “city on a hill,” but now just another great power animated by predatory nationalism.
Around the world, illiberal politicians who seek to subvert their own democracies will follow America’s lead. With no fear of American criticism or reaction, expect harassment of press and political opponents in countries such as Mexico and Turkey to grow. Expect the Russian-backed electoral cheating recently on display in Georgia and Moldova to spread. Expect violent rhetoric in every democracy: If the American president can get away with it, others will conclude that they can too. The autocratic world, meanwhile, will celebrate the victory of someone whose disdain for the rule of law echoes and matches their own. They can assume that Trump and Vance will not promote human rights, will not care about international law, and will not reinforce our democratic alliances in Europe and Asia.
But the most difficult, most agonizing changes are the ones that will now take place deep inside our society. Radicalization of a part of the anti-Trump camp is inevitable, as people begin to understand that existential issues, such as climate change and gun violence, will not be tackled. A parallel process will take place on the other side of the political spectrum, as right-wing militias, white supremacists, and QAnon cultists are reenergized by the election of the man whose behavior they have, over eight years, learned to imitate. The deep gaps within America will grow deeper. Politics will become even angrier. Trump won by creating division and hatred, and he will continue to do so throughout what is sure to be a stormy second term.
My generation was raised on the belief that America could always be counted upon to do the right thing, even if belatedly: reject the isolationism of America First and join the fight against Nazism; fund the Marshall Plan to stop communism; extend the promise of democracy to all people, without regard to race or sex. But maybe that belief was true only for a specific period, a unique moment. There were many chapters of history in which America did the wrong thing for years or decades. Maybe we are living through such a period now. Or maybe the truth is that democracy is always a close-run thing, always in contention. If so, then we too must—as people in other failing democracies have learned to do—find new ways to champion wobbling institutions and threatened ideas. For supporters of the American experiment in liberal democracy, our only hope is education, organization, and the creation of a coalition of people dedicated to defending the spirit of the Constitution, the ideals of the Founders, the dream of freedom. More concretely: public civic-education campaigns to replace the lessons no longer taught in schools; teams of lawyers who can fight for the rule of law in courts; grassroots organizing, especially in rural and small-town America; citizens and journalists working to expose and fight the enormous wave of kleptocracy and corruption that will now engulf our political system.
Many of those shattered by this result will be tempted to withdraw into passivity—or recoil into performative radicalism. Reject both. We should focus, instead, on how to win back to the cause of liberal democracy a sufficient number of those Americans who voted for a candidate who denigrated this nation’s institutions and ideals.After reading that I can recognize why you can't reflect, and answer questions. You don't appear to be open to anything but forms of negative information, and views that truly promote very negative views.
Yes, it is negative as well as unprecedented in the annuals of American History and yet you treat this as if it were just another day?
It’s a new day, yet you seem fixated on the past. Where does that lead you? Have you acknowledged that Trump was decisively chosen to return to Washington? By all measures, a majority—including the popular vote—believe he has what it takes to do the job. While some might not favor all of his traits, they recognize the essential qualities he brings. Choosing the right person for the job isn’t as straightforward as it may seem; it goes beyond black and white. While you may see this outcome negatively, you’re entitled to your opinion, just as the majority who saw value in him and voted for him are entitled to theirs. For us, his victory isn’t negative. I view this as just another day, one full of potential, because every day is unique and ever-changing. Do you respect democracy? Because what we witnessed was democracy in action at its finest. Handwringing won’t change the outcome. Perhaps it’s time to try understanding different perspectives and accept that the majority has spoken.
I believe that this high and mighty attitude the Demacats project contributed to their loss—the kind of attitude that suggests, “We know best, we have superior principles and ideologies, and everyone else is lesser and should fall in line.” Human nature alone should have made them realize that no one likes to be condescended to. From my perspective, you, of all people, should avoid adopting this mindset, especially when you struggle to articulate what keeps you committed to supporting the Democratic Party.Sharlee, it is no use to trying to convince some people at all. They will be do or die Democrats to the end, although the Democratic Party has devolved as a party.
I fixate on the past as it is prologue and appears more and more applicable to the present. Because, I never forget anything. I may forgive if it is warranted but I never forget. Yes, Trump won and I accede to the wishes of the American people, but that does not mean that I have to agree. What do you want from me, am I to have a love fest with this guy? I have my own opinions and they do not line up with those of the majority of voters in this contest.
It is a matter opinion as to who is the Right person for the job, regardless I acquiesce to will of the voter majority, saving my “I told you so” for later. For me and my half, this victory has negative implications.
I don’t have the mindset, it is just common sense that I don’t want a criminal in the top job. You have my answer as to why I support the Democrats over Republicans, and I am sorry that it was not the right answer you were looking for. In this current political climate, I have no choice but to support the Democrats, while imperfect, does not come off as my sworn enemy.
Sharlee said:
"He can’t do more than speak to his commitment to work for all Americans.
------> Yet, many cling to his past words to fit their narrative, ignoring his current promises."
~ to what end?
Why the hatred, the fear mongering and the negativity?
Why the glumness, the doom and the gloom?
Why?
For instance, watch Musk as he moves. He absolutely floats in a bubble of positivity and enthusiasm. Joy of life is revealed in his very being.
Over half the nation knows what is divinely good and what is beneficial for human happiness and true joy. Let us analyze Trump going forward, not backward. Let us hope for presidential actions which are in line with common sense, all that is real, and democracy/freedom within appropriate boundaries.
I agree, we've had enough with vicious devil's advocates.
But, like lurking poisonous spiders, they'll always be around.
Well we all know Trump's feelings about J. Powell....
Fed Chair Jay Powell said Thursday that he would not resign if president-elect Donald Trump asked him to.
Asked whether he would step down amid chatter that Trump's advisors had suggested he do so, Powell replied, "No."
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/econom … rcna179208
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