Navigating the Election: Weighing the Pros and Cons On Candidates
When it comes to deciding who I will vote for in a presidential election, the process can feel overwhelming. The issues are complex, and the significance of the decision weighs heavily. At its core, I know that voting for a president is about choosing someone who aligns with my values, and my vision for the country, and who can lead us effectively. To make this decision, I try to weigh the pros and cons.
First, I look at the candidate’s policies. Are their proposals for healthcare, education, the economy, or foreign policy in line with what I believe is best for the country? On the pro side, if a candidate’s policies resonate with my personal priorities, it makes it easier for me to support them. However, a downside is that sometimes their promises seem overly optimistic or vague, and I’m left wondering if they’ll actually be able to deliver.
Leadership qualities are another key factor for me. I ask myself if the candidate has the experience, temperament, and judgment necessary to handle the pressures of the presidency. It’s a huge pro if they have a proven track record of success in their job performance, and have demonstrated the ability to lead under pressure. Are they problem solvers or one that creates problems due to not deciphering the outcome of a hasty decision? On the flip side, some candidates might lack that experience or have made questionable decisions in the past, which makes me worry about their ability to govern effectively.
Character and integrity are also to be considered. How trustworthy is the candidate? Do they uphold ethical standards and act in the best interest of the public? For me, it’s a plus if a candidate shows strong moral values, but it’s tricky because sometimes I have to balance that with other considerations, like their political stance or policy positions.
Electability is another thing I consider—whether the candidate realistically has a chance to win the election. A pro here is that voting for a popular candidate can increase their chances of success, but focusing too much on electability can lead me to support someone I don’t fully agree with, rather than voting for the person I truly believe in.
What happens, though, when both candidates have significant flaws, like a lack of a solid job performance history? This can be challenging. When neither candidate seems particularly strong, I find myself weighing imperfect options. Lack of experience and poor job performance can be a major drawback but do consider whether a fresh perspective might bring new ideas and innovative solutions. The downside is that inexperience might result in poor decision-making during critical moments. In situations like this,
Ultimately, deciding who to vote for feels like a deeply personal and sometimes complex process.
So now my question -- What factors do you consider when making your decision, especially when no candidate seems perfect?Great post.
Character, is above all. I think lack of character is disqualifying for so many reasons. I'd like to see integrity and honesty. Communication skills are also important, especially in these divided times. A candidate who can speak to everyone, not vilifying the "other" I like to see empathy. Some sort of feeling that this person has possibly experienced some of the trials and tribulations us regular folk have. Walz hits that, for me, like no politician ever has. I like to see a candidate who can accept responsibility , I also don't mind some self-deprecation. Additionally, a candidate I feel who would make solid appointments. Lastly, a candidate who has the potential to work with a divided Congress. A willingness to compromise and bring everyone to the table. I think Biden was masterful in that area. Overall, Harris satisfies, for me, the qualifications more than Trump. Yes, I mentioned nothing about policy. I feel confident in the expert opinions of the Harris economic plan and I feel that other policy aspirations would be molded by a divided Congress anyway. It's much less about policy, for me.
Give me a candidate who is driven by their core values, confident and consistent. Give me as close to a Constitutional Conservative as it gets, and that person gets my vote.
Weighing the pros and cons of the candidates...
This is disqualifying for me. Trump is doubling down on this crazy rhetoric..
'Can you imagine you’re a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, ‘Jimmy, I love you so much, go have a good day at school’ and your son comes back with a brutal operation,” Trump told the crowd in Mosinee, Wisconsin.
“Can you even imagine this? What the hell is wrong with our country?”
Does MAGA believe this? If not, why support a man that spreads such fantastical lies?
I can't help but wonder, does he believe this lie or does he believe the people listening are that gullible to believe it?
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1832505040348 … 1168d13c20When comparing Trump and Harris, several contrasts come to mind: words versus deeds, job performance versus unachievable promises, a problem solver versus a problem creator, and strength versus weakness. These distinctions highlight important differences in their leadership styles and capabilities. Not sure how anyone could consider Harris. I find it odd for lack of a better word to see Dems back her because her approval was historically low before they placed her in as a candidate.
"Harris has so far managed to both take credit for Biden’s popular policies and decouple herself from his most unpopular policies. Her approval rating is about 42 percent, up from about 38 percent when Biden dropped out on July 21, according to FiveThirtyEight’s polling average. Biden, on the other hand, so far hasn’t gotten the kind of boost that many people thought he might after dropping out: His approval rating is only up about 2 percentage points to 41 percent." https://www.vox.com/politics/369735/202 … d-spending
How can one even start to explain that?The man is encouraging people to believe that operations are happening at the schools or being facilitated at their schools. Words matter. Should folks just chalk this up to another lie from a liar? Or should we question his mental health?
For me, lying isn't a "leadership style" it is a character flaw. Especially when he chooses to advance a lie that could potentially have such dangerous consequences. It's irresponsible.
It's interesting that some of Trump's supporters are trying to distance themselves from these continued remarks, they won't openly say they agree or disagree.It's very clear how you feel about this issue, but it's odd that you seem unable to accept that others might not share the same mindset. In both this thread and the other one where you've raised the issue, I haven't seen anyone defending the statement. I even called it horrendous myself. What exactly are you looking for? Perhaps the media isn't covering it any longer because it's considered old news.
I can see that, for you, words are truly a top priority when choosing a president. We're all individuals, and I imagine we each have different criteria when it comes to making that choice. I guess I could also say, we all have the right not to share on any given subject.
There are many states that list themselves as "Transgender" sanctuary states. In California, New York and others if your underage child makes it to that state they can have transgender procedures without parental consent.
Here is just one case.
Montana parents who lost custody of daughter after opposing gender transition claim 14-year-old was taken without warrant
A Montana couple who claim they lost custody of their daughter after opposing a gender transition now allege the 14-year-old was taken from them by the state’s child protective services without a warrant, according to a new lawsuit.
The teen’s father, Todd Kolstad, and stepmother, Krista, slapped the agency with a federal suit earlier this week, claiming that social workers allegedly took their child without due process by not having a judge sign off on the warrant, the Daily Montanan reported.
The couple also allege their religious freedoms were ignored and their civil rights violated when CPS opted to put the teen in a psychiatric facility in Wyoming instead of Montana — and then banned them from communicating with the child.
https://nypost.com/2024/05/23/us-news/m … t-warrant/
President Donald Trump was again telling the truth.This doesn't relate to Trump's statement that a child goes to school and comes back home days later as the opposite sex. Where are the children that Trump claims this has happened to? Where are their parents speaking out?
The "example" cited in your post...
'"State officials were alerted last summer when H.K. expressed suicidal thoughts at school and was admitted to a hospital for inpatient psychiatric care after claiming to have ingested a mix of ibuprofen and toilet bowl cleaner.". That's why the child was hospitalized.The "child was hospitalized" because whacked out school districts, whacked out school boards, whacked out Teachers, whacked out indoctrination..... are all thriving in whacked out Blue Counties in the United States of America!! America's children are paying a costly price!
Get a clue.I think the school acted responsibly, after the child said she ingested toilet cleaner and ibuprofen. The child's school really has nothing to do with this case. What should have they done? Ignore it?
There's a much broader picture here, if you choose to see it and it expands far beyond this one child.
Do you have instances that backup Trump's repeated claims of children going to school, disappearing for a few days and coming back as the opposite sex?
I know that there are a few screwed-up adults out and about sharing their stories about being victims in what I was describing earlier. Victims of what President Trump has spoken of frequently. I am sure you have seen them too.
No I haven't. Trump has not provided any evidence that schools are involved in sex change operations. Just baseless accusations.
Does he say these things because he believes them? Or does he say them because he thinks his followers will believe them? Either way it's wrong.
Again, his association with Laura Loomer has lead to increasingly bizarre and blatantly false statements by TrumpPlease note some just won't touch on anything Harris lied about during the debate... I would love to move on to a bit of "what she said". Hint
I'm not sure if anything she said can top his whoppers... Stoking fear and suspicion against those who work in our schools that they are perpetrating sex change operations? That our doctors are murdering newborns? That immigrants are eating our pets? Vance tripled down on that this morning on meet the press.
Proclaiming he hates Taylor swift? This is all so irresponsible and downright bizarre.I believe any senior who heard her claim that 'He intends to cut Social Security and Medicare' (K. Harris) would see that as a misleading statement, and see that statement far worse than Trump's silly hyperbolic pets being eaten blurb... At her NC rally on Thursday, she repeatedly made false statements. Much of what she said seemed like propaganda in its truest sense. Her animated delivery, with all the shouting and hand gestures, was almost comical. However, such misinformation shouldn't be taken lightly. It should be thoroughly examined, and one should question whether her statements hold up to common sense." Perhaps you don't follow her live performances. Because her lies are plentiful and would be hard to condone.
Exactly. Kamala isn't to be trusted. Why do people trust her? I wonder.
People seem to often trust Kamala Harris because of her position and experience, which might lend her credibility to some. However, there are significant reasons to question that trust. Her history of dishonesty is well-documented, with many instances captured on film. Critics argue that her flip-flopping on issues suggests a lack of genuine principles, as she seems to tailor her stance to fit public opinion rather than standing by consistent values. This tendency to adapt her message to suit different audiences can undermine trust, as it raises concerns about her true convictions and reliability. In light of these issues, it's important to scrutinize her statements and actions more closely rather than taking them at face value.
People are drawn to her because she is a woman of color, nothing more, nothing less. These people want a female president of color period. It doesn't matter the destructive policies she espouses.
Yep, about equity, not merit at all. So far the Democratic Party elected people based upon equity instead of merit. Look at cities ran by Democrats-I live in one of those cities- hellholes of massive crime, astronomical inflation, & all other ills. Adams leads the pack of equity. He is the WORST New York mayor of the century. I am a Black woman saying this. Elect people based upon pure merit, not race/color.
In politics that is hard to do...
However I noted for the first time hearing minorities being asked who they were voting for, and many were saying Trump.
They were saying things like "I voted for Obama, twice, because he was black. I'm noting voting for Harris because she is black, I'm voting for Trump, things were better for me when Trump was President."
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gHoQP5zq7_I
Its not about what Harris says she will do.... its about what she has done in the last 4 years.
Its not about what Trump says he will do... we saw what he did or tried to do as well.
Do we want Open Borders and a government that considers what American citizens need the lesser of what the world needs?
Or do we want someone who puts Americans first, what is best for America first, and who doesn't believe pursuing WWIII is a great idea?Ken, this brings to mind last Wednesday when I was shopping for groceries at Whole Foods, I finished shopping & waited for the bus to go home. A lady next to me that she will vote for Harris because "she doesn't like what Trump is saying & that he is mean". Talk about EMOTIONAL, IMMATURE reasons to vote. She added that Kamala is a Black woman so she will be voting for her. I was totally nonplussed. I inquired further-this woman stated that she is on Section 8. I told her that I will be voting for Trump because of the high crime wave & more astronomical inflation. There are some people to whom logic is pure Yakut.
They do not know much about politics or social science.
They do not know much about human nature. They do not understand the basis for the Constitution of the United States. They need to be educated and there are ways to know what is true and what is not true. How to figure that out?
Start researching others sources than MSM.
Its the comfort zone they are stuck in:
Ignorance.
"I agree, it’s truly unfortunate because having a woman president we could all be proud of would be amazing. However, she seems to be pandering, both to women and to Black communities. What are your thoughts on Harris adopting different accents depending on the audience she’s addressing? I’ve included a link to an event where she spoke to the Congressional Black Caucus, but be warned—it’s quite cringe-worthy and could be seen as insulting to many people of color. I believe these kinds of cheap political tactics need to be called out."
Congressional Black Caucus event https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utemWGyUE5oHarris’s present and past agendas increasingly reflect socialist principles, despite her stated support for a market-based economy. Her proposals often emphasize extensive government intervention and social programs, notably including her promise to implement Medicare for All. This initiative represents a significant shift towards a more socialist approach by advocating for universal healthcare funded through government resources. Additionally, her agenda includes numerous other social programs and free giveaways, such as expanded access to education and social services. These policies underscore a commitment to redistributing resources and increasing government involvement in addressing economic and social inequalities. Her blend of market-based rhetoric with a robust suite of social programs highlights her inclination towards a more socialist framework.
Harris is a leftist Democrat like Obama. This is why Obama was the LAST Democratic president I voted for. I didn't like Obama's policies either because he was a leftist. It is time to turn the tide to logic. What Harris is espousing is out of the communist manifesto. The present Democrats which consist of radicals are turning America into a socialist state. Don't people see this? The younger people are on board with this because they had it so easy & because of affluent guilt. It is the affluent young people in the upper middle & upper socioeconomic bracket who are on board with the Democratic propaganda. Those who are solidly middle class & particularly those in the working class aren't for this Democratic socialist rhetoric.
In Manhattan, it is mostly Democratic. But go to Brooklyn, Queens, & Staten Island, they are for Trump & strong, law & order politicians. Brooklynites are the salt of the earth & don't tolerate nonsense. I am not for socialism but a meritocratic capitalism. It is mostly young people who are pro-Harris/Walz. Older Americans, who have experienced life & who are mature, not so much.Harris aligns closely with the left-wing policies of the Democratic Party, much like Obama did. In my view, it's almost as if they're indistinguishable, with Obama seemingly having another shot at governance through the current administration, attempting a "fourth term" by pushing forward through this very progressive agenda.
Now is definitely the time for logical discourse. I believe Harris is pushing policies that resemble a near-communist agenda. I do sense that more people are starting to see her for what she represents and what she's promoting. I don't think all young people align with her goals; many of them seem disillusioned with the current state of things, realizing they've been left out of the American dream. This growing dissatisfaction might even make some see Trump as a better alternative to correct the course.
As someone who monitors polls and compares past elections, it's evident that despite the ongoing negative press around Trump, his support remains solid. Harris, on the other hand, should have gained more traction by now—though there was a slight bump after her convention, she's since lost ground in several states and head-to-head comparisons. My gut tells me she's coming off as unlikeable; her demeanor is difficult to warm up to. She often seems overly scripted, repeating rehearsed lines almost word for word. I genuinely believe there's only a small portion of voters that would fully buy into a socialist vision.She also denigrates Black people by saying stereotypical things to them. I have heard such pandering in my life. As a Black woman, I am insulted. Trump never panders- he is very straightforward. How can people fall for her baloney?
She even changes her accent when speaking to a black crowd.
That has been documented more than once.
Well for one, she doesn't say things that make people question her mental acuity. Trump makes outrageous, fantastical statements. And I've noticed that he slurs, stammers and makes many more gaffes than usual. I could sum up his most recent Nevada rally as bizarre vindictive incoherence. He is declining rapidly and his rhetoric lately is being supercharged by his advisor Laura Loomer. I don't think it's going to be a successful outcome.
harris doesn't say anything. She has never held a press conference since being coronated by the democrats to be their presidential nominee. Anytime she has an interview that is not heavily scripted she is a disaster.
Holding press conferences is part of the job of president.
Maybe somebody needs to tell her about this aspect of the job she is pursuing.Come on now, she's been memorizing her lines pretty well lately — we hear the same words every time she speaks. You could almost lip-sync her speeches at this point. It's unfortunate because I believe her talking points are filled with an agenda that’s simply unachievable, and she knows it too.
Was Trump's comment on Haitians eating pets and Vance continually repeating it simply "silly"? Did it not have consequences in real life? Do those matter? The label "silly" downplays the severity of what was said and its impact. Words matter.
Is Trump loudly and proudly stating this morning that he hates Taylor Swift another silly comment? Will it have consequences also? Who knows. I do think that these comments are irresponsible and reckless. They show a lack of judgment, self-control and maturity that should be well beyond what is exhibited for a man of his age.So no comment about how many seniors might feel about her claiming Trump will cut their SS and Medicare? No biggie? Wonder if we could see any consequences from Harris's lies?
I've addressed this before, and I still find the statement about Haitians eating pets to be both baseless and absurd. Yes, there have been reports of people eating ducks from ponds, but that's a different issue altogether. From what I've seen, the main consequence of the comment is backlash from parts of the Haitian American community, who see it as ignorant and offensive. They feel it revives old stereotypes and could lead to increased hostility toward them. But, this is America, and Trump once again faces potential assassination threats. So, toughen up. Trump has the same right to free speech as anyone else, including you and me. You spend your time here criticizing Trump—do you think these constant negative views could lead to consequences?
As for Taylor Swift, I really don’t have any more to say. I can't think other than Trump who's been more demonized by the media, TV shows, left-leaning commentators, social media, and numerous Democratic Washington representatives, and has been celebrity.
But it’s as if all this rhetoric couldn't possibly have consequences, right? LOL The man has now survived what could potentially be two assassination attempts. So forgive me if I’m not overly concerned with some hurt feelings of Haitians in Ohio. Maybe they should consider moving somewhere where free speech isn’t protected.Free speech isn't an excuse to use irresponsible and reckless speech.
Someone with one of the largest megaphones in the world stating that they hate a particular individual is careless and callow. Indicates a lack of character.
"They feel it revives old stereotypes and could lead to increased hostility toward them."
Could lead to? It is already led to bomb threats forcing schools and public centers to close and hate toward Haitians.
But hey no problem for Trump to throw the group under the bus in order to scare monger and gain some political points. Entire groups of people reduced to political fodder. I appreciate you making your position known."Free speech isn't an excuse to use irresponsible and reckless speech. "
However, this is where we are, and this goes both ways ... it seems you might feel this is not fair.
"Could lead to? It is already led to bomb threats forcing schools and public centers to close and hate toward Haitians. "
And all the many years of Trump bashing has now not if there will be consequences -- we see consequences tow assassination attempts.
I have no interest in the story. I have not read about any form of violence occurring in Springfield.Would you consider this speech irresponsible and reckless? I think a case could be made that this type of speech resulted in two assassination attempts on the life of President Donald Trump.
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"If we were in high school I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him," from Joe Biden
"When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?"
"They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. That's a fact."
"Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?"
"I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House."
The Trump campaign itself released a compilation of some of the threats, and identified those making the threats. They mostly are political or media figures or political operatives:
Kamala Harris: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat (Trump) poses."
Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bull's-eye."
Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation!"
Biden: "There is one existential threat: It's Donald Trump."
Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to his nation … He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
Biden : "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. … and that is a threat to this country."
Tim Walz: "Are (Republicans) a threat to democracy? Yes … Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
Nancy Pelosi: "(Trump) is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general – they are threats to us domestically."
Dan Goldeman: "He is destructive to our democracy and … he has to be eliminated."
Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
Maxine Waters: "Are (Trump supporters) preparing a civil war against us?"
Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that (Trump) is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-win followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat (Trump) poses to American democracy."
Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
Gave Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
And more….Can you make a contrasting list of Trump's rhetoric along with his follwers? Laura Loomer is on fire lately.
Nobody else has had two attempts on their life other than President Donald Trump.
And there has been some link between these two men and specific rhetoric? Lol Vance for a totally one-sided call to tone down ‘Inflammatory’ Rhetoric"
VANCE TODAY: “We cannot tell the American people that one candidate is a fascist.”
TRUMP 11 DAYS AGO: “Kamala Harris is the first major party nominee in American history who fundamentally rejects freedom and embraces Marxism, communism, and fascism.”
I want to express my gratitude for taking the time and effort to provide this extensive list. Let’s add this disturbing rhetoric to the discussion. It’s difficult to watch, but it's crucial to understand the kind of violence-inciting rhetoric Hillary Clinton has used, especially just a day after the second attempt on Trump’s life. Be warned: this video is cringe-worthy, frightening, and repulsive, all rolled into one.
Hillary Clinton calls Trump a dangerous threat to the world -- and so much more...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxrngjBER3E
This is whst MAGA believes:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/p8JLhF … tid=oFDknkDoes maga believe that sex change operations are happening at school, As Trump has now stated repeatedly?
He has stated, quite clearly now, several times, that kids are going to school and receiving sex change operations. Do you support these accusations? It's a very simple question. Is it happening in your school district? Are the children coming forward? The parents?
Or is he lying?This is silly, I live in the free and normal state of Florida, where common sense still prevails.
Yes, I believe some radical school systems in blue counties, blue States, have teachers, counselors that have been or presently are, working against parents/guardians to encourage and screw up even more.....confused kids, who have in their heads, that God made a mistake with them.What is silly? That Trump said it? Or that he actually believes it or that he thinks his followers believe it?
Do you support his continued statements that children are going to school and coming home with brutal operations?
"Does maga believe that sex change operations are happening at school, As Trump has now stated repeatedly?"
It ultimately comes down to individual perspectives, just as opinions differ on what constitutes an "unrealistic agenda." However, it's often more telling to look past a candidate's words and focus on their actions. Words are fleeting, but deeds provide a clearer view of what a candidate has truly achieved. One should ask: Are you better off now than you were during the Trump administration? Is the country in a stronger position than it was four years ago?
Consider the facts: under Trump, the U.S. was not engaged in any wars, and despite the pandemic, the economy was holding steady with an inflation rate of 1.4%. The border was more controlled, with many migrants being required to wait in Mexico, and encounters were down. Meanwhile, Iran was financially strained, unable to fund conflict due to Trump’s effective sanctions.
In the case of Kamala Harris, some might feel her accomplishments are hard to find or overshadowed by her role in the Biden administration.
It seems you may prioritize your personal emotions over actions or deeds when choosing a president. Would that be an accurate assumption?More accurately, I prioritize truth over spreading unsubstantiated, potentially dangerous lies. This isn't an "individual perspective". There is a truth in the matter and that truth is that sex change operations are not happening or being facilitated within schools.
This has nothing to do with Harris and her policies. It has to do with Trump's repeated lies on this matter.
Trump's followers seem to want to distance themselves on these statements. I have posed the question to several followers if they agreed with Trump's statements on what he believes is happening in our schools and all I get is deflection.
He has made the statement many times now. Do you personally believe his accusations? If not, are you okay with such blatant lies or the fact that he is most likely mentally unwell to make such claims?~ why did he (the Georgia shooter) act?
DJT exaggerates for effect.
End of story."why did he (the Georgia shooter) act?'
No idea... Maybe folks should start spreading lies that he was afraid of being forced into a sex change operation at school?Well Trump does believe it's happening...
I'm hoping he will repeat this story at the debate. As well as his belief he has the right to interfere with elections and that doctors are murdering newborns.Sadly, it has happened, more than once.
Sadly, fully intact, healthy babies ARE aborted.
Sadly, young people will continue to be indoctrinated rather than taught in the same institutions that tell them babies aren't human and that God (if there is a God) makes mistakes.
Sadly, people will still vote for Democrats.It has happened more than once? Are you referring to sex change operations at schools?
My goodness, the evils of the "left"... Aborting 8-year-olds before or after randomly providing them with sex change operations at recess...
But interestingly, there was a mass transitioning that happened in Georgia last week without any parental consent. Only the transition was from living to dead and the tool that was used.. a gun.No, not, literally, in the schools. Is that where you think they should be done? Maybe in the future schools
will have attached clinics founded by someone caring & compassionate, much like Eugenicist Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood for example.
Learn a little history, a little math, then go get some body part cut off or sewn on?!? On second thought, why bother with history and math?Oh okay, the idea is that the school shuttles them off somewhere to have the surgery? Why aren't parents coming forward?
Maybe that is a very silly suggestion and I do not get why you suggested it.
Really? It is any sillier than Trump insisting that kids are going to school and coming back with operations? Do you think the average 14-year-old kid might believe that there is some truth to Trump's statement? That someone is lurking at the school ready to force a sex change? I mean if someone as powerful As Trump says it's true then it must be, right? .
This kind of anti-trans hysteria has a potential to develop into real world violence.. in any case, he stands by what he said. He hasn't commented on it or corrected it. He has doubled down on it with absolutely no additional context or information. He said what he means. Folks can try to sane wash it all they want.
He either thinks his followers aren't smart enough to know he is lying Or maybe, since he is a very elderly man, dementia is setting in. Personally I think he is not mentally well.
I'd ask you to consider how you would feel if Harris perpetuated such a huge lie that impacts our nations schools.
Nope, your turn. Now that you have done your best to deter and deflect, what do you think of the video shared of the former Democrat, now fired-up Patriot?
I have not deflected at all. I posted a quote from your leader and the response was "no this is what maga really believes". Trump has made clear statements about sex changes operations in schools (either the school does it on the premises or facilitates its in some way).
Bravo to the woman in the Facebook post for exercising her Free speech rights. While she has every right to express her opinions, I'll stick with the official party line that comes from the leader.... Kids go to school and come home with operations.
Let's imagine for just a minute that Harris would have made these continued statements. MSM is barely covering this lunacy from Trump.
How can one even start to explain that?
Answer: Trump is WAY worse.How about we agree, it's horrid and should never happen anywhere.
Agree or disagree?
“There is no more, and there should be no more important voice than the voice of Christians,”“There is no more, and there should be no more important voice than the voice of Christians,” --- Disagree
In my view, the principle is that every human being, regardless of their religion or lack thereof, should be given a voice and be heard. This reflects the inherent value and dignity of all individuals, extending to advocating for the most vulnerable, including the unborn. This perspective aligns with the Christian belief in the sanctity of life, emphasizing that every human life is valuable and deserving of consideration.
Do you like the road we have been on the last 4 years?
Inflation.
Immigration.
Ukraine War.
Middle East Conflicts (Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah).
Escalating threats to China.
Transmen - Child Sex Changes - Censorship on Social Media.
Equity not Equality.
OR you want to change course from this insanity as much as possible.
Trump is the only alternative to continuing down this road we are currently on.
You have two choices... consider us lucky if on Nov 5th we actually still do."Do you like the road we have been on for the last 4 years?" No! And I so hope the fog is lifted, and more see your list more clearly, and realize the path we are on at this very moment.
Kamala Harris has nothing to offer the American people.
I agree, she never did, not in the Senate, not in the White House. She has done nothing to show for her time in Washington. Trump's best comment last night ( not a quote)she has been in Washington for 4 years, why hasn't she done all the things she is talking about?
What's particularly disturbing about Kamala Harris is that there are too many similarities between her and the late Salvador Allende. When the late Salvador Allende was the president of Chile in the early 1970s, he imposed price-control laws on groceries and the likes; and it only harmed the production of goods. Now Kamala Harris wants to do the same thing. The reason that groceries and gasoline are so expensive is because Joe Biden cancelled the Keystone XL Pipeline. Truck drivers had to pay more to transport food goods across the nation as a result, and grocery prices skyrocketed here in the U. S. Kamala Harris's proposal, if enacted, to impose price-control laws will only compound the situation with high grocery prices. We cannot afford another fours years of her nonsense.
If Harris were to become president she would most likely implement similar policies as Allende's, it could lead to a similar outcome or worse. Producers may cut back on production if they can't cover their costs, resulting in fewer goods available and worsening the inflation problem. As you mentioned, rising costs for truck drivers due to higher gas prices, which were influenced by the cancellation of projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline, already contribute to the surge in grocery prices. Imposing price controls may seem like a short-term solution, but it risks compounding the issue by disrupting supply and further straining an already stressed market. Instead, a focus on energy policies that lower transportation costs and promote domestic production could be a more effective way to address the underlying issues.
A free people in Ukraine fighting for their freedoms are worthy of our support and we have not been wrong in supporting them against a greedy, belicose Russia. If we support NATO to support the Ukkrainiians, we can shift our focus to China, but we cannot fail to support NATO in the process. America cannot afford to pusue a path of xenophobia. [I am concerned.]
The solution to inflation is not wartime price controls with government's hand in the marketplace. We believe in the free market.
We also believe in making just laws, and obeying those laws. Uncontrolled immigration is a disgrace of malfeasance.
Freedom of the seas, and support for Israel's right to exist, are supported by a majority of Americans, but so is the right for Palestinians to live in a free Palestine (perferably free of Hamas terrorists). Diplomacy must find a solution.
Most troubling to me is a President Trump who now seems incapable of acting in response to good advice...even at the risk of losing an election to an opponent who might win onlly because he loses!I thought Trump came off as the most genuine.
I thought Harris was scripted, as if trying out for the role of Evita and not campaigning for President.
The hosts fed her up softballs and all she had to do was take it on home, while they scolded and corrected Trump repeatedly.
The lies she told, the same old Charlottesville lie, the Constitution lie, the dissing military lie, the J6 lie..... and the hosts wouldn't call her on any of them.I don't think he trusts MSM, aka "fake news" lol, and even so he will not back down if another debate is discussed.
WHY? Just to be knocked down? Like XY boxing XX?
Its not fair. He should not allow himself to be treated so abysmally.
No one should.
He should save himself and just step out of the ring.
Furthermore, If I were him at this point, I would relax until the election.
In fact, Let them both give us a rest from all the boxing.
We know who we want. We know who can save America from "The Blob":
The one who IS NOT PART OF IT!
Pros and cons of the current candidates. The company you keep?
Laura Loomer traveled aboard Trump’s private plane to the debate and spent Wednesday traveling with him and members of his campaign team to events commemorating the Sept. 11 attacks in Manhattan and Pennsylvania. Loomer does not work in any official capacity for the campaign and was invited as a guest, though she has served as an informal adviser to Trump.
Loomer called 9/11 an “inside job,” lol he brings a 9/11 truther to ceremonies commemorating the day?
She’s a one-stop shop for bigotry. She has dubbed herself a “proud Islamophobe" and has backed it up with a slew of hate-filled comments about Muslims being “savages.” On a podcast hosted by a white nationalist, she declared, “I’m going to fight for white people” and added, “I’m a really big supporter of the Christian nationalist movement.”. She's about as vile as they come.
Also she posted on X...
"If @KamalaHarris wins, the White House will smell like curry & White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center and the American people will only be able to convey their feedback through a customer satisfaction survey at the end of the call that nobody will understand."
Is this who has Trump's ear lately?
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1832888733567209640What's with the Trump/Loomer relationship? Is she an advisor? Is this the type of person he would choose for a cabinet position? She was backstage with the Trump entourage during the debate . She was also in the spin room with him immediately afterward. This woman has quite a history of saying the ugliest most hateful things. It appears that she's Trump's new best bud.
Speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, Lindsey Graham said Loomer is “toxic” and her presence near Trump isn’t “helpful at all.”
“What [Loomer] said about Kamala Harris and the White House is abhorrent, but it’s deeper than that,” Graham told HuffPost. “I think that the president would serve himself well to make sure this doesn’t become a bigger story.”
And what did Loomer respond with?
In a tweet Loomer said Graham “has never been loyal to President Trump” and shouldn’t be giving advice to him. She also alleged that Graham is gay and scared to come out.
She also received backlash from Marjorie Taylor Greene (LOL Of all people) who told her to delete the tweets. In response, Loomer said Greene is an anti-semitic, “miserable lying bitch.”
The Trump campaign and MAGA are imploding.Do you support Loomer? It appears that she is now a close advisor to Trump.
She has promoted conspiracy theories suggesting that 9/11 was an "inside job" and suggested that various American gun massacres were really carried out by "crisis actors" or ISIS terrorists. She calls herself a "white advocate".
She said this about Harris ..
"the White House will smell like curry & White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center and the American people will only be able to convey their feedback through a customer satisfaction survey at the end of the call that nobody will understand.”
Now she's hitting the campaign trail with Trump.
Wow, and I felt pretty good today, no signs or symptoms of imploding --- I mean with more outlets dissecting Harris's debate mistruths and her obvious flip-flopping ploys. I was in a great mood.
I loved what Berrnie said the other day. I was feeling the Bern.... "Sen. Bernie Sanders says he considers Harris ‘progressive’ and her policy changes are ‘pragmatic’ In an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press," Sen. Bernie Sanders said Vice President Kamala Harris' changing views are part of "doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election." Oh My.You may enjoy this:
Victor Davis Hanson: Kamala Harris is a Communist, Trump is winning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGTnXcBPnn0Thanks, Ken, I truly respect Victor Davis Hanson. The interview was poignant, I might say profound. Hanson has a way of putting all into great perspective, and make one think deeply. His view of the debate, as well as Trump and Harris, matches my own.
I so respect Victor Davis Hanson. He always brings his sharp, no-nonsense perspective to interviews. I was not surprised to hear him label Harris as a Communist. I agree with his bold and provocative opinion. Although it was apparent he used hyperbolic language that seems more aimed at making a point about her political leanings than a literal statement. As for Trump, I was pleased to hear Hanson argue that he’s still very much in the game, suggesting that the political landscape is shifting in Trump’s favor, which is a sentiment shared by many, to include me. Thank you for sharing...
Sharlee01? I heard that before the debate, Kamala Harris locked herself in a hotel room and hired a Donald-Trump impersonator so that she could rehearse with him for the debate. She did this for four days. She's not playing with a full deck. President Trump didn't even need to rehearse to perform well in the debate. He knew exactly what he was going to say.
"Donald Trump has tapped Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democratic Hawaii representative, to help prepare him for next month’s presidential debate with Kamala Harris.
The selection of Gabbard as rehearsal stand-in for the vice president, first reported by the New York Times, suggests that despite denials, the former president may be planning to prepare for the 10 September clash with greater-than-usual diligence."
I'm thinking that whatever was left of Tulsi's career is now officially over.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art … ris-debateI was well aware that Tulsi Gabbard was going to coach President Trump for the debate to up his game, but it was nothing bizarre like what Kamala Harris did. I don't doubt that there may have roleplay between Ms. Gabbard and President Trump so that President Trump would know what to expect at the debate even though he likely already knew what talking points he would bring up at the debate. However, from what I've gathered, the Donald-Trump impersonator that Kamala Harris did a mock debate with in her hotel room for four days was dressed up and made up to look exactly like him. A little too weird on her part, I should say.
It was clearly stated that Tulsi was a stand-in as Harris. Trump and Harris prepared in the traditional manner for the debate, which includes having a stand in of your opponent. Tulsi didn't do a great job or Trump was uncoachable. You would think that she would have been able to prepare him to avoid taking the bait and going down every rabbit hole Harris lead him to. He is a really unfocused and undisciplined aging man. Did you hear his rally in Nevada? So very juvenile.
I think President Trump handled the September 10, 2024 debate rather well. He was always serious when he spoke. Meanwhile, too much laughing and smirking from Kamala Harris's end.
He is astute. He ALWAYS knows what to day, unlike Biddy Biden & Kamala who must be cued.
Plenty of outlets reported that, yes, she had a Trump-like stand-in to prep for the debate. To me, though, it looked like she just memorized a bunch of lines and let them fly. Half the time, she was way off-topic, throwing out what felt like rehearsed zingers. And those facial expressions? Frozen in the most bizarre way—like a deer in headlights with a twist. Honestly, I was cringing just watching her. I agree—she’s not exactly firing on all cylinders. Frankly, she strikes me as a total airhead.
To say that Trump is reckless with his public comments is about as big an understatement as you could make. But this week, we are watching the real-world effects of that recklessness play out ...
More bomb threats hit Springfield, Ohio, today after Trump elevates false claims about Haitians
Two hospitals sent into lockdown, government buildings shut down and local schools evacuated....
Two hospitals in Springfield, Ohio, were sent into lockdown after bomb threats, police said Saturday, marking the fourth such case in as many days linked to false claims circulating among the far right that Haitian immigrants there are eating domestic pets and wildlife.
Using people’s lives and communities as a political cudgel to stoke fear, hatred and outrage with lies and is a low, base, reckless, destructive thing to do, and I do not understand what is in the heart or mind of Trump to indulge in it.
Using dangerous rhetoric to whip people up into a frenzy of misinformed anger and viciousness is not needed and not helpful.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … t-haitiansPros and cons of the candidates?
Does anyone think that Trump's relationship with Laura Loomer is a benefit?harris refuses to give interviews.
The most recent one in Philadelphia was a total disaster.
She doesn't give interviews or hold press conferences. walz doesn't give interviews or hold press conferences.
They are hiding from the American people. They don't want people to discover how much of nothing they have to offer. Part of being president is going to involve giving press conferences.
harris needs to quit hiding from the American people because it looks like she has something to hide.Vance continuing to push lies.
Looks like a neo-Nazi group is taking credit for creating and spreading the racist conspiracy that Haitian immigrants are killing and eating pets in Springfield, Ohio.... Why would Trump choose to spread this?
https://newrepublic.com/post/185950/neo … conspiracy
https://x.com/MeetThePress/status/1835297528847233428LOL...on X
"True story: Elon Musk ate my cat.
Please share your own story of Elon Musk eating your pet."
Interesting...so Trump during the debate claimed to have seen “people on television [saying] ‘My dog was taken and used for food’”.
So, using Trump's logic, if I see this it must also be true right? I mean I saw it with my own eyes. At this point, so have almost 1 million other people
https://x.com/RexHuppke/status/1833268333564539386So Taylor Swift endorsed, Harris and what do we have today?
"I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!” Trump wrote on Truth Social in all caps.
This is presidential? I fear for Swift's life now considering what is happening in Ohio after Trump's remarks about Haitians. This is so irresponsible. So juvenile. Please, remind me of his stellar character.
Where is his family? Someone needs to take the phone away before something horrible happensProminent California Democrat leaves the party, joins the Republican Party and now supports President Donald Trump.
This is happening more often then I've seen it in any other election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsIqr1UGMykAnd JD Vance just keeps on going...
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” Vance said, quickly clarifying that he “created the focus that allowed the media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by policies.”.
Gov. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, said Sunday that “there’s a lot of garbage on the internet and, you know, this is a piece of garbage that was simply not true. There’s no evidence of this at all.”
He went on to say: “Let me tell you what we do know, though. What we know is that the Haitians who are in Springfield are legal. They came to Springfield to work. Ohio is on the move, and Springfield has really made a great resurgence with a lot of companies coming in. These Haitians came in to work for these companies. What the companies tell us is that they are very good workers. They’re very happy to have them there. And, frankly, that’s helped the economy.”
Can Trump and Vance stop already? The fact that he continues this on live TV with no regard to the consequences of people's lives is unconscionable.
Ohio’s Wittenberg University on alert after shooting threat against Haitians..
If we’re willing to see others terrorized because of a false rumor about Haitian immigrants, we should ask who abducted our conscience, not someone’s pet.
Christians, how do you square this with the idea of not bearing false witness against your neighbor?
https://apnews.com/article/vance-haitia … 9c1b5ca7ffIt's getting really ugly.. Megyn Kelly interviewing the editor of the conservative National Review...
https://x.com/MikeNellis/status/1835756595956904041
Wow, tell us how you really feel...
Slowed down in case you didn't hear it..
https://x.com/BGrueskin/status/1835751860617073075
If you watch the whole thing, Kelly ignores it, acts like she didn't even hear it. Disgusting.
The Kelly piece with her racist guest is in reaction to Vance continuing to daily, even multiple times a day, talk about Haitian immigrants in Ohio eating pets.
Vance gave away the MAGAS game today though...he said “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1835309555938480462
"Gov. Mike DeWine announced on Monday that he was deploying state troopers to the beleaguered city of Springfield to reassure the community that schools are safe despite a wave of bomb threats.
The threats began last week after Trump mentioned Springfield during the presidential debate, repeating a baseless rumor that Haitian immigrants in the city were abducting and eating household pets.
Since then, 33 bomb threats have targeted city schools"
Vance and Trump think anti-immigrant hate is good politics, it's not."Ohio governor sending state troopers to Springfield schools amid threats.."
Has Trump denounced these threats? Any statement for calm? Any statement saying that threats are violence aren't acceptable?
Also in Ohio... Portage county sheriff made the following statement..
"When people ask me … What’s gonna happen if the Flip – Flopping, Laughing Hyena Wins??” Zuchowski wrote, referring to Harris. “I say … write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards!”
Referring to immigrants as “Illegal human ‘Locust’”, Zuchowski added: “We’ll already have the addresses of the their New families ... who supported their arrival!”
In the same post, Zuchowski added screenshots from several Fox News stories claiming that the Biden administration’s immigration policies were fueling a “crime wave” and “destroying small towns”.
The rhetoric certainly does have an impact doesn't it?
In the wake of the second assassination attempt on Trump, I do see Democrats coming out in numbers to denounce political violence but on the other side.. silence.
Potentially harmful or dangerous rhetoric only matters when it's directed at trump?
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc … -troopers/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … aign-signsIs this a story from 1950? No this is America post Dobbs....
It was only a matter of time that abortion bans killed someone.
A Georgia woman died after not receiving timely medical care due to the state's restrictive abortion law, investigative journalism site ProPublica reports.
Amber Thurman had wanted a surgical abortion in her home state and hoped Georgia's ban would be paused in court, but at nine weeks she sought care at a clinic in North Carolina.
Thurman was given a medication abortion with mifepristone and misoprostol, a regimen approved by the U.S Food and Drug Administration
After taking the pills, Thurman experienced cramping, but her condition worsened over several days with vomiting and heavy bleeding, according to the report.
She was transported to Piedmont Henry Hospital in Stockbridge, Georgia, on the evening of August 18, where doctors discovered she had not expelled all the fetal tissue from her body.
She was in need of a routine procedure to clear it from her uterus, called a dilation and curettage, or D&C.
But just that summer, Georgia had made performing the procedure a felony, with few exceptions. Any doctor who violated the new Georgia law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison. Doctors had warned the law's language is too vague. Politicians didn't care.
Thurman waited in pain in a hospital bed, worried about what would happen to her 6-year-old son, as doctors monitored her infection spreading, her blood pressure sinking and her organs beginning to fail.
It took 20 hours for doctors to finally operate. By then, it was too late.
State medical review committee ruled her death “preventable.”. Maternal mortality review committee is 2 years behind in Georgia, hence the reason we're just hearing about this now. Propublica says there is one other and likely more to come.
https://www.propublica.org/article/geor … rman-deathIt appears that the bomb threats in Ohio are hoaxes from overseas. According to the governor of Ohio.
"Ohio governor contradicts Democrat narrative with damning revelation about bomb threat 'hoaxes' in Springfield
Gov Mike DeWine revealed the bomb threat 'hoaxes' are coming from 'overseas'
Ohio's Republican governor revealed on Monday that reported bomb threats against various sites in Springfield, Ohio, that have been blamed on Republican rhetoric surrounding the Haitian migrant crisis in the town were all "hoaxes."
"Thirty-three threats; Thirty-three hoaxes," Gov. Mike DeWine announced during a press conference. "I want to make that very, very clear. None of these had any validity at all."
DeWine said during the press conference that many of the threats came from "overseas."
"We have people unfortunately overseas who are taking these actions," DeWine added. "Some of them are coming from one particular country."
The governor's office said it is not disclosing the country in an effort to discourage threats to the schools and other buildings."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ohio-g … pringfieldI sort of thought this would be the case...Pleased to see DeWine set the record straight.
He did.
Gov. DeWine urges Trump and Vance to end ‘very hurtful’ comments about Haitian migrants
...
Some of the bomb threats came from foreign countries. Others came from in the United States.
And all of them have been hoaxes. That's correct. None of them have panned out. We have obviously checked each one out. But they have been very disruptive. Schools have had to close. We put in our Highway Patrol to the schools, so they can be open today.
...
So, we have put 36 members of the Ohio State Highway Patrol, our special unit, literally in the schools. They go in the morning in the schools. They make sure there's no bombs, there's nothing. We just want to be able to assure the parents that it is safe.
And if I was a parent, I would be concerned as well with all these different threats and all this all this rancor and all this hate.
...
Well, the immigration issue and the border issue obviously is fair game. We can certainly do better on the border than we're doing. We could do a lot better.
But if you want to talk about these individuals, these Haitians who are in our cities, our city, look, they're legal. They came here because they want to work. They have been hired by our local businessmen and women, and when we talked to them the other morning, they told us these are great workers. They come to work. They want to work.
In fact, they want to work overtime. They're being paid just what, obviously, what anybody else would be paid. So they have been a boost to the economy. Springfield in Ohio is really coming back. And Springfield has seen a lot of new industry come in, and there weren't enough workers.
This is what the companies told us. After the pandemic, when everything started moving forward, there was not enough workers, and so they started filling them in with these Haitians.
So those comments are — about eating dogs and things, they're very hurtful. They're very hurtful for these men and women who work very, very hard. They're obviously very hurtful for their children.
Amna Nawaz:
They're hurtful, but are they also fueling these threats?
Gov. Mike DeWine:
Well, look, as the mayor said today, Mayor Rue, he said before this, we had Haitians here for three years, four years, and we did not have any of these.
Now, look, the people who are making these threats are the bad people. They're the wrong people. We're having some come from overseas. We have people who want to mess with the United States. We have some coming within the United States from people who are sick or who think that, for some reason, this is funny.
...
Amna Nawaz:
If these comments that are baseless that are being made by former President Trump and Senator Vance, if they were not being made, would those threats stop?
Gov. Mike DeWine:
Well, I don't know. I can't predict what would happen, but the statements are wrong. I have said they were wrong. The mayor has said they were wrong. And, frankly, they need to stop.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/gov-d … n-migrants
House Republicans Rail Against US being made subservient to The UN And World Health Organization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYV0Rja … fJlKSrMAewTrump had both the UN and the World Health Organization pegged as a waste of U.S. resources from the start. I was pleased to see him pull out... Beach Bingo Biden rejoined quickly. Trump recognized early on how these organizations often prioritize globalist agendas over America's best interests. It’s good to see House Republicans pushing back and raising awareness about the U.S. being made subservient to these institutions. Our taxpayer dollars should be going toward policies that directly benefit our country, not funding international bodies that don't always align with our values or priorities.
Hey, the video was not so shocking because you have shared the plan this corrupt bunch has to become part of a global government. I think we will see a civil war if even a hint of this kind of BS is pushed. I am pleased to see this hit the media waves. Maybe this form of info will wake up some voters.
Pros and cons?
Trump is declining rapidly...yesterday in Michigan
"We have Bagram in Alaska. They say it might be as big, might be bigger than, all of Saudi Arabia. I got it approved. Ronald Reagan couldn't do it. Nobody could do it. I got it done."
"Check that one out, Bagram. Check that one out. It's, it's—no, think about this: Between Bagram, between—you go to ANWR, you take a look at the kind of things that we've given up. We should be—we should have that air base. We should have that oil."
And before those statements, Sarah Huckabee Sanders warmed up the audience by slamming Harris for not having biological children....the whole event was sad and hateful.
Are points scored for being mean, cruel? Cheers and
laughs in the arena among the followers. Meanness is a feature. It's definitely a losing message. Why make women your enemy? The Trump campaign relies heavily on insults.Context mattes watched the rally --
Prior to the statement about "Bagram in Alaska," former President Donald Trump was indeed discussing oil. At the rally, he was likely talking about energy resources and oil exploration, focusing on how his administration had worked to expand drilling and exploration opportunities in the United States, including in Alaska. Guess one needs to view the rally.
The Sanders statement was a low political blow ... not something I would condone. She was pointing to conservative values, and how Harris's compete with hers.But what does Bagram have to do with Alaska? Or energy at all? What am I missing?
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836184824677367944Perhaps you are unaware he has brought up this fact, I am following Trump closely. You took one sentence, I watched the full rally as he spoke to the people and was talking about the oil around the air base. He made a comparison of the amounts of oil.
Afghanistan's diverse geological foundation has resulted in a significant mineral heritage with over 1,400 mineral occurrences recorded to date, including gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas, and oil. Afghanistan's resources could make it one of the richest mining regions in the world.
Regarding his referral to President Ronald Reagan. Reagan was involved in efforts to explore and develop oil resources in Alaska.
Yes, President Ronald Reagan’s administration did promote oil drilling in Alaska. The Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA) was enacted, and it allowed for the exploration and development of oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) if it was determined to be necessary for national security and economic purposes. Reagan's administration supported this policy to increase domestic oil production and reduce reliance on foreign oil. However, the actual drilling in ANWR did not begin during Reagan's presidency.
"Copy and paste -- This is what I felt he referred to in the Reagan/ANWR statement.
"ANWR Leasing: In 2017, Trump signed into law the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which included provisions for opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to oil drilling. The administration pushed for and held lease sales in ANWR's coastal plain, which is considered a prime area for oil exploration.
Rolling Back Regulations: The Trump administration rolled back several environmental regulations to facilitate oil and gas development. This included changes to regulations governing emissions and other environmental protections that were seen as barriers to drilling.
Oil and Gas Leasing: Trump’s administration regularly offered leases for oil and gas exploration on federal lands in Alaska, aiming to boost domestic energy production."
It pays to have full context to what was being talked about.When did he say there was oil around the air base in Afghanistan? I've watched just about all of it and did not hear that. I cannot find any media that states anything close to that either.
"We would have been now having so much money coming out of the energy, we just have the best, we have Bagram in Alaska,” Trump said. “They say it might be as big, it might be bigger than all of Saudi Arabia. I got it approved. Ronald Reagan couldn’t do it. Nobody could do it. I got it done.
He is calling ANWR , Bagram because ANWR is what we have in Alaska.As I said I have closely followed Trump for years now, and have always been fascinated with many things he has said. Trump has made several public comments over the years about Afghanistan's natural resources, particularly focusing on oil, minerals, and other valuable assets. While Afghanistan is not known for its vast oil reserves, Trump often referred to the country's natural wealth as something that the U.S. should have benefited from during its involvement there. Here are some key points from his remarks:
"Take the oil" Strategy (2011-2015): Even before becoming president, Trump frequently suggested that the U.S. should take control of oil and other resources in countries where it had military involvement. Though this idea was primarily directed at Iraq, Trump occasionally made similar remarks about Afghanistan’s wealth.
Focus on Mineral Wealth (2017): During his presidency, Trump’s administration showed interest in Afghanistan's mineral resources, which were estimated to be worth trillions. Trump suggested that U.S. involvement in the region could be justified if the U.S. could benefit economically, particularly through extracting resources like rare earth minerals, which are essential for various industries.
Reframing U.S. Role in Afghanistan (2017): In several speeches, Trump mentioned that other countries, particularly China, were benefiting from Afghanistan’s resources while the U.S. bore the cost of war. His administration showed a willingness to explore opportunities for U.S. companies to gain access to Afghanistan's mineral wealth.
Comments Post-Withdrawal (2021): After the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, Trump criticized the manner in which it was handled. He lamented that the U.S. "left behind" valuable resources, including military equipment and potentially access to Afghanistan’s mineral wealth, which could now be exploited by other powers like China.
He was referring to the oil in Afganastan actually throughout that country. I assume he was referring to oil would be in the Bases region.
His coment about Reagon to me was clear, agian -. Reagan's administration supported this policy to increase domestic oil production and reduce reliance on foreign oil. However, the actual drilling in ANWR did not begin during Reagan's presidency. Trump did got it done -- In 2017, Trump signed into law the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which included provisions for opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to oil drilling. The administration pushed for and held lease sales in ANWR's coastal plain, which is considered a prime area for oil exploration.
Oil and Gas Leasing: Trump’s administration regularly offered leases for oil and gas exploration on federal lands in Alaska, aiming to boost domestic energy production.This is what I'm referring to..
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836184824677367944Yes, you posted this Trump quote "We have Bagram in Alaska. They say it might be as big, might be bigger than, all of Saudi Arabia. I got it approved. Ronald Reagan couldn't do it. Nobody could do it. I got it done."
"Check that one out, Bagram. Check that one out. It's, it's—no, think about this: Between Bagram, between—you go to ANWR, you take a look at the kind of things that we've given up. We should be—we should have that air base. We should have that oil."
I went into, length what I got out of the quote. He was referring to all the oil he felt we ould have had from Afghanistan, and he pointed out Reagan could not work around ANWR. The "big deal" Trump made regarding Alaska's oil involved his administration's efforts to expand oil and gas exploration and production in the state, particularly in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). In 2017, as part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, Trump's administration opened up portions of ANWR to oil and gas leasing, which had been a highly controversial issue for decades due to concerns about environmental impact and the preservation of wildlife in the region.
It's apparent you feel his statement was all kinds of crazy, fine -- I guess I speak Trump fluently. I knew precisely what he was referring to. Perhaps I knew due to he has referred to it before.
Done beating this dead horse.
He was basically saying in Trump's own language, 'There's a sh--load of oil under Bagram in Afghanistan, and that he pulled off something Reagan couldn’t, managing to get more oil flowing out of Alaska. Why he felt we could get his hands on the oil under Bagram I don't know. He works and sometimes speaks in mysterious ways.
Another con...
Most of us don't want a president Vance.
The Ohio governor is continuing to call on Trump and Vance to stop continually making comments about Haitians.
The response from Vance...shift the blame and gaslighting...
"JD Vance defended his comments about Haitian immigrants eating pets during a Tuesday rally, saying that “the media has a responsibility to fact-check” stories – not him."
The media reported the facts from local agencies. Vance decided to lie.
Let's remember that he also admitted to "creating" this story in order to rail about immigration at the expense of a group that is here legally.
Everyday I think Vance couldn't possibly become more unlikable and every day I'm proven wrong.
Why do they keep sending him out?
He will be a significant contributing factor for Trump's loss in November.This is typical of those on the left.
Let's not talk about how life in Springfield, Ohio has become a nightmare after 20,000 Haitian immigrants are dumped on their doorstep. Lets not discuss how it is affecting their schools, their abilities to provide social services, etc.
No, the left doesn't want to talk about what this has done to American citizens.
Where is the concern?
That constituents complained to Vice Presidential nominee JD Vance and he let the world know about their concerns. A leader takes care of his people.
It's time the left shift their focus from non-citizens forced upon a community by the corrupt biden/harris administration and worry about how this impacts American citizens.
This community didn't want these Haitians to be dumped into their community and they have been seriously struggling ever since.
President Donald Trump has is right...America First.Do you think there's a better way to talk about the challenges of the town then creating a false narrative about immigrants eating cats?
Why are they there? Jobs.
"They came to Springfield, Ohio for work,” said Governor Dewine. “Many of them are working and filling empty positions in Springfield.”
A large portion of the Haitian immigrants in the area are working warehouse positions at companies like Amazon, McGregor Metalworks, and Topre America.
“Those employers are looking for workers. Many have come and they understand that they can get a job with them very quickly.”
“The Haitians who are here are hardworking people,” said Dewine. “They have families, they care about their families, and they care about their children.”
You know who is not complaining about Haitians? The Ohio employers who need them.
https://www.dispatch.com/story/opinion/ … 162621007/And WHY aren't these jobs being filled by American citizens? Why aren't American citizens being flown into Springfield, Ohio to fill these positions?
As of 7 days ago there were over 7.42 million American citizens unemployed.
Is the Ohio Governor trying to say American workers are not as good as Haitian workers?
With millions of Americans unemployed, I bet all those jobs being filled by Haitians could have been filled with Americans. Why do democrats prefer non-citizens to citizens? It's beyond me.
Again, the left love illegal aliens (the Haitians came here on a category created by executive order by the biden administration. This executive order is currently being challenged.)
And they love criminals.
Law abiding American citizens the left doesn't care for at all.You gettin all worked up over nothin man, you need to chill.
Its going to go just like 2020... no worries.
They will count up the votes on election day, determine how many Mail In Ballots they need to get the results they want, and then ship pre-prepared Mail In Ballots to the States that need them.
It worked so well in 2020 why would they not do the same thing again?No, no, no... not ballot stuffing, that leaves too much to risk.
They determine what is needed after the election is over, and then ship ballots where they are needed, ballots that are pre-filled out and waiting to be shipped.
If the elections weren't close to 50-50 they couldn't do this.
They can't have the American citizens deciding the election... the American people are being F'd over with a lot of F'ing still to come.
"And WHY aren't these jobs being filled by American citizens? "
The Pew Charitable Trusts recently reported that a look-see at 15-year population trends among the 50 states shows that, “aside from the states with [population] losses, population growth was the slowest in Michigan (0.06%), New York (0.12%), Connecticut (0.13%), Ohio (0.15%), and Pennsylvania (0.18%).
Meanwhile, the Census reports that, as of 2022, Ohioans’ median age was 39.8 years. In contrast, the national median age was 38.9 years, almost a year less than Ohio’s. That is, the number of people in Ohio is at best flat, and of those people who do remain in Ohio, they’re relatively older than Americans generally.
The bottom line is that, given virtually no population growth, Ohio needs to attract tax-paying workers, including immigrants, to shoulder the costs of state services, and that includes immigrants.
Ohio's unemployment rate has never been so low for so long.
The state's unemployment rate was 3.7% in January, up from 3.6% in December, according to state unemployment data.
Ben Ayers, senior economist for Nationwide, said in a research note on Monday. "Lack of labor remains a pressing issue for many employers, driving up wages and holding back production.
Factors contributing to the labor shortage:
Early retirements and an aging workforce, lack of access to child care,.. according to the US chamber of commerce.
Pros and cons of the candidates? Because of Trump's scotus nominees overturning Roe we now have this..
"Amber Nicole Thurman died after doctors delayed her life-saving abortion care. Her death was ruled “preventable” by the Georgia Maternal Mortality Review Committee, ProPublica reported. ".
Trump praised the Supreme Court for overruling Roe and took credit for putting three justices on the Court who voted to do so. He said that “every legal scholar” favored leaving abortion to the states. That, too, is nonsense. Dozens of legal scholars signed briefs to the Supreme Court urging it not to overrule Roe v. Wade. Having attended countless academic conferences on abortion, I think it is clear that a significant majority of legal scholars , like the majority of Americans, favor a constitutional right to abortion.
Another losing issue.
https://www.propublica.org/article/geor … rman-deathThe states are now responsible for abortion access and not the federal government.
Yes state government, thanks to Trump's action. The small hand of state government is just as offensive as the large hand of the feds. Women are dying.
Whats wrong with being pro-life? pro-babies? pro-live births?
Its healthier to give birth than to have an abortion. Let the states decide.
This is democracy.
If a woman lives in a state which believes in pro-love-of-life, then she better move to a state which allows the murder of offspring, if she believes in free-love-of-self/ego over a baby.A post was about women dying because they are denied healthcare.
Do you support the idea of your neighbors deciding which healthcare you should receive or be denied?She died because she took an abortion pill.
She died because doctors, too afraid of prosecution, sat on their hands instead of removing tissue from her uterus.
I repeat... she should not have taken an abortion pill, it killed her and her baby.
Okay so the vague law which caused doctors inaction isn't to blame at all? The woman who died, obtained the mifepristone treatment in a state where it was legal. The abortion ban in Georgia worked perfectly. This woman is just collateral damage.?
Anyone else agree with this?
Who am I to tell someone else which legal pills they should or shouldn't be taking?Perhaps the family could have taken this to the courts. If the Hospital was at fault and they did not offer help in her dying condition it is more than a law this family should be looking at. I must wonder what they would share if brought to court and could openly share the entire story. Plus if this hospital turned away a dying woman they need to be brought before a court of law. Just too much, we don't know about this case. We know it ended in tragedy and no one is stepping up with all the facts of the day.
Her medical records would show if she was experiencing Sepsis and hemorrhaging. At best, they would have treated her for Sepsis, and not turned her away. Something does not fit in this scenario.Abortion is against the law in Georgia. The act of performing a D&C on this woman was against the law unless it was necessary to save her life. Doctors needed to wait to the point they felt her life was in jeopardy.. looks like they waited a little too long. But that is what these laws are doing. A woman cannot be treated unless she's Knocking on heaven's door.
"Usually, these signs of sepsis would be addressed with a D&C to remove the fetal tissue. But the LIFE Act prohibits “administering any instrument … with the purpose of terminating a pregnancy.” That made performing this normally commonplace and safe procedure a possible felony for the doctors. Hospital staff delayed the procedure for nearly a day, as Thurman’s condition worsened. Finally, hours after her organs began failing, she was taken in for surgery —""Abortion is against the law in Georgia. The act of performing a D&C on this woman was against the law unless it was necessary to save her life. "
"In Georgia, abortion is legal but restricted. The state's law, known as the "Heartbeat Bill" (H.B. 481), bans most abortions after around six weeks of pregnancy.
It is clear and factual she took an abortion pill, something went very wrong. Not sure what trimester she was in. The abortion pill, which involves taking medications to end a pregnancy, is typically used in the first trimester. Specifically, it is approved for use up to 10 weeks into a pregnancy.
We just know nothing about what the doctors did. She had already apparently passed some of the tissue. So this would not be considered an abortion any longer. It would have been the spontaneous passing of fetal tissue. There would no longer been a doctor initiating or performing an abortion. I do know each when a woman is passing a fetus or fetal tissue they are assessed for any symptoms of sepsis, bleeding, and pain, they are as a rule advised on what would be the safest way to pass the fetus. If bleeding they are required to pass the fetus in hospital.
If sepsis is the diagnosis they are treated this prevents immediate surgery. In cases of sepsis, the priority is typically to stabilize the patient and manage the infection before proceeding with any elective surgical procedures. The treatment protocol generally involves Performing surgery on a patient who is septic can significantly increase the risk of many serious complications, such as poor wound healing, further infection, and increased risk of organ failure.
Addressing the sepsis first helps improve the patient's overall condition and reduces these risks. After reading a bit about her case, she arrived already with sepsis, and within 20 hours passed of organ shut down. I now know why the D&C may have not been done immediately. And why no one has brought a lawsuit? It sounds like she presented with sepsis. I would be sure charting would show blood tests high fever, low blood pressure, rapid breathing, and more... They would have been negligent to do surgery on someone with sepsis."Usually, these signs of sepsis would be addressed with a D&C to remove the fetal tissue. But the LIFE Act prohibits “administering any instrument … with the purpose of terminating a pregnancy.” That made performing this normally commonplace and safe procedure a possible felony for the doctors. Hospital staff delayed the procedure for nearly a day, as Thurman’s condition worsened. She was 9 weeks when she went to North Carolina to get the mifepristone pill.
This shouldn't have happened. Politicians and lawyers now determine doctors actions in to many states. Why no lawsuit? Because the doctors were constrained to adhering to Georgia law. The doctors didn't do anything wrong according to Georgia law. Your post and views with your added professional experience make perfect sense. But it doesn't work that way in states with abortion bans. She arrived at the hospital severely ill but not at the point where doctors felt like her death was imminent so they waited 20 hours until the point they felt she could die. That is the point where Georgia law would let them intervene. This is the reality in many states right now. These routine procedures that can be performed immediately and quickly aren't allowed until the mother is dying.
Georgia law says a physician can go to prison for performing an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. The law does have an exception to prevent the death of a pregnant woman, but physicians say there's no guidance on how to interpret that. I think that it is quite clear in all of these cases that no one is listening to the doctors.My comment was not fully correct to what I hoped to share
If sepsis is the diagnosis surgery is not performed. In cases of sepsis, the priority is typically to stabilize the patient and manage the infection before proceeding with any elective surgical procedures. The treatment protocol generally involves Performing surgery on a patient who is septic can significantly increase the risk of many serious complications, such as poor wound healing, further infection, and increased risk of organ failure.
We have no idea if the doctors were at fault. We would need to see all factors that led to them holding off on surgery. My God her blood pressure could have been too low to safely do surgery due to a loss of blood.... Laymen should not even be discussing her case without facts of her condition. When complications of sepsis are present it is prudent to hold off. If you were going in for any surgery and your blood pressure was low, or you showed signs of sepsis the surgery would be canceled. Period.
It appears that her death has been sensationalized by pro-abortion activists. One can't sue if there is no medical malpractice. In my view, her medical records showed she was treated appropriately for her very serious condition.
It clicked for me when I came across the term 'sepsis' during my research. She likely waited too long to seek emergency care. Throughout my career, I’ve seen women die from sepsis caused by complications following legal abortions. I’ve also witnessed cases where hysterectomies were necessary due to botched legal abortions. Google can't replace a medical degree. Her death is very sad, but not ready to blame her or anyone else.
How would you know this? The doctors or the hospital did not share her medical information. I posted the statement the Hospital offered. Has her family initiated a lawsuit?
I think a lawsuit is irrelevant. Whether the family chose to pursue a lawsuit doesn't change what happened at the hospital. The state commission on maternal mortality ruled her death was preventable. Considering the circumstances, preventable means if they had acted sooner. It was documented they waited 20 hours until she was near enough to death to be an exception to Georgia's abortion ban.
Thank God I live in California where abortion and birth control is the constitution.
For people who don't like living in California as you I say move out!"Thank God I live in California where abortion and birth control is the constitution."
:°(Tim... rarely does one of your posts contradict itself in a variety of shades or at least come across in such a way as this one does.
Too little is known about her case. I note that she did not file a lawsuit against the hospital or the state, as of yet.
The hospital involved in Amber Thuman's case responded to the controversy by defending its medical decisions and protocols. They generally stated that the care provided was in line with medical guidelines and that the decisions made were based on clinical judgment rather than external factors like abortion laws. (I read the article you provided, which stated that "Doctors and a nurse involved in Thuman’s care declined to explain their thinking and did not respond to questions from ProPublica." It’s important to note that it is against the law for physicians to disclose or discuss a patient's medical information without their consent.)
Amber Thuman’s case became widely known due to the controversy surrounding her medical treatment. According to reports, she was a patient who sought care for a serious condition, and there were significant concerns about the care she received, particularly regarding the decision not to perform a D&C (dilation and curettage) procedure.
Amber Thuman was reportedly turned away from medical care because of a combination of factors, including potential misjudgments about her condition, issues with hospital policies, or administrative decisions. Specific details about why she was denied the procedure or why she was turned away can be complex and involve medical, procedural, and possibly ethical considerations
I would like to see more detailed information from the doctors who examined Amber Thuman, including their findings and recommendations. This situation is deeply tragic; no woman should lose her life while seeking help for a spontaneous miscarriage. It’s disheartening that her case has become political, reflecting poorly on the medical care she received. Many thousands of women are treated for similar conditions and are grateful for the care they receive in such situations.The Georgia Maternal Mortality Review Committee Tasked with examining pregnancy-related deaths to improve maternal health, the experts, including 10 doctors, deemed her death “preventable” and said the hospital’s delay in performing the critical procedure had a “large” impact on her fatal outcome.
Again we need to hear from the actual doctors and the Hospital. It is positive that her death was investigated. Any doctor could offer information on how death could have been avoided, and certainly, her death may have been avoided if she had not taken an abortion pill. I wonder how far along she was. Yes her death could have been prevented. This hospital sounds negligent. I won't read why.
But the committee heard from the actual doctors and determined the death was preventable. The doctors who treated this woman were acting under the law.
"Though Republican lawmakers who voted for state bans on abortion say the laws have exceptions to protect the “life of the mother,” medical experts cautioned that the language is not rooted in science and ignores the fast-moving realities of medicine."
I think this doctor probably speaks for many..
Dr. Melissa Simon, vice chair for research in the department of obstetrics and gynecology at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, told ABC News. "I do not -- nor do my patients want me to -- stop what I'm doing and think about what the judge would do: 'Will the judge sentence me to jail if I were to perform this procedure?'"
1-10 years in Georgia. I don't know why any OB GYN. What do you want to practice in any of these states.
"More than 100 former national security officials from Republican administrations and former Republican members of Congress endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris on Wednesday after concluding that their party’s nominee, Donald J. Trump, is “unfit to serve again as president.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/us/p … ement.htmlI can't get past the "100's" claim that Trump incited violence on Jan. 6. I watched it from start to finish and he never did any such thing!
If it starts out with a LIE, any curiosity I may have had, is out the window.
https://youtu.be/uCGD9dT12C0In fact, Antifa was there. I have a friend who was there that day. Afterwards, he was questioned by the FBI. He saw what the Antifa members did and their masks in the trash afterwards. He smartly moved to the Dominican Republic. You can see this force in the videos taken on J6. No one addresses the presence of Antifa. But ask those who were there that day.
Kathryn, I did.
I listened to a J6er tell his story and then met with and took pictures with him afterwards.
There's video of this man walking through an open door and onto a very crowded floor at the entry of the Capitol Building. He turns around and works his way back out. For this alone..... he served 7 mos. in prison and is currently on probation for another year.
Super nice guy, as harmless as they come.
P.S. Do you like my shirt?
If Trump's rhetoric didn't incite j6 hooligans then how would Trump have us believe Democrats rhetoric incited the looney in the bushes at his golf course?
I agree, but some refuse to acknowledge the words Trump spoke that day. He expressed his desire to walk with the citizens, though he wasn't allowed to. He believed it would be a peaceful march, with the crowd making their voices heard loudly, without resorting to any form of violence.
"We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt." President Trump Jan 6th 2020
"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." President Trump Jan 6th 2020
It's strange how the left clings to every word this man says, often twisting the context so much that you either have to scratch your head or laugh at the blatant misrepresentation. Yet, the two quotes I shared seem to go right over their heads, completely misunderstood or ignored. However, this kind of mindset has become dangerous and should be pointed out with vigor.YES!!!! They intentionally leave out the most pertinent parts... then stew on what's left of it, as if it's the truth, the WHOLE truth.....Ugh! (Mad Face!!)
Yeah? What of it? This is America we have the right to support any candidate we please.
Worth quoting...
We firmly oppose the election of Donald Trump. As President, he promoted daily chaos in government, praised our enemies and undermined our allies, politicized the military and disparaged our veterans, prioritized his personal interest above American interests, and betrayed our values, democracy, and this country's founding documents. In our view, by inciting the violent attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021 and defending those who committed it, he has violated his oath of office and brought danger to our country. As former Vice President Pence has said "anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should neverbe President ofthe United States."
Donald Trump's susceptibility to flattery and manipulation by Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, unusual affinity for other authoritarian leaders, contemptforthe norms of decent, ethical and lawful behavior, and chaotic national security decision-making are dangerous qualities – as many honorable Republican colleagues and military officers who served in senior national security positions in his administration have frequently testified. He is unfitto serve again as President, orindeed in any office of public trust.
We appreciate that many Republicans prefer Donald Trump to Kamala Harris, for a variety ofreasons. We recognize and do not disparage their potential concerns, including aboutsome ofthe positions advocated by the left wing ofthe Democratic party. But any potential concerns pale in comparison to Donald Trump's demonstrated chaotic and unethical behavior and disregard for our Republic's time-tested principles of constitutional governance. His unpredictable nature is not the negotiating virtue he extols. To the contrary, in matters of national security, his demeanor invites equally erratic behaviorfrom our adversaries, which irresponsibly threatens reckless and dangerous global consequences. In short, Donald Trump cannot be trusted “to support and defend the Constitution ofthe United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic . . . and beartrue faith and allegiance to the same."
Read the letterNo thank you, as stated earlier, it begins with a lie (not a little lie, a whopper of a lie) why would I bother to read any further?
Pretty much the litany of all the twisted issues that this vile bunch tried to bring Trump down with... Plus the letter was pure Trumped up views and or rhetoric/propaganda. One mistruth after another. Almost reads like another invite to get Trump, does it not, all wrapped up in proper English, but a dog whistle to nut jobs. Very much some serious TDS and how many participates was it 100 or 200? Could be called a pandemic. Oh My!
Again, Vance is just gold..
"Springfield, Ohio, city officials were contacted by Vance’s team and said the claims were baseless. It didn’t matter and now the town is in chaos."
"Ohio—City Manager Bryan Heck fielded an unusual question at City Hall on the morning of Sept. 9, from a staff member of Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance. The staffer called to ask if there was any truth to bizarre rumors about Haitian immigrants and pets in Springfield.
“He asked point-blank, ‘Are the rumors true of pets being taken and eaten?’” recalled Heck. “I told him no. There was no verifiable evidence or reports to show this was true. I told them these claims were baseless.”
And we all know what happened next.
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/springfield … s-04598d48Yes, we all know... seems your beating a dead horse.
I wonder if Trump is having buyer's remorse yet? Vance is one of the biggest cons of Trump as a candidate. Every time he opens his mouth it's a disaster. I'm really surprised that the Harris campaign doesn't give him more focus but I guess he's doing a good job of it himself... Seems like he runs his mouth every day, almost continually.
My truth --- he should be kicking himself in the butt for picking JD -- I was very much disgusted when I heard his choice. I had hoped he would pick Nikki Haley.
Shar, we don't disagree often, but I must speak up for J.D.. He will talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime about any subject. He has been through tough times, knows what it is to have little and barely scraping by. He knows what it is to feel alone and forgotten. But all that he has gone through has only made him stronger. He could have been another Appalachian statistic, but instead he has been tapped for V.P.!! Read his book if you haven't. He is the perfect sidekick to Trump and the perfect man to have in our Conservative corner. He is young, he could be my kid, but evenso, he is sharper than most of the D.C. elites.
He would have lost any credibility as to being 'anti-establishment' if he had picked Haley. She is more establishment shill than Harris herself is, by a lot by my guess.
Vance is also an incredibly gifted orator, if you are looking for fact based arguments to be made off the cuff, JD is gold.
Vance is the best we have seen at this level since Clinton, maybe Reagan.
He has been able to handle the most argumentative interviewers with a skill neither Biden, nor Harris, nor Trump have ever shown.
The people Trump has surrounded himself with are bright minds with considerable oratory skills... Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy are at the top of that list.Yes, I completely agree Ken, such great points.
This is the genuine J.D. Vance that I have come to love, not the manufactured version which the left, so desperately, seeks to promote:
https://youtu.be/3ZOOBXn2n4Q?si=6V0YH2PdFes1SB4LSo Trump apparently has no plans to pull his endorsement of Mark Robinson for governor in North Carolina. Will the current scandal surrounding Robinson cost Trump a crucial swing state?
In terms of a candidate "pro". Trump has lavished praise on Robinson, is this indicative of poor judgment? Even before the current scandal, the man has a history of some really extremist views and commentary.It’s hard to say how much the current scandal surrounding Mark Robinson will impact Donald Trump’s endorsement or the outcome in North Carolina, especially given that many voters seem to have already made up their minds about their candidate of choice. There’s a growing sense of fatigue among the electorate regarding media coverage that focuses on controversies from the past, which may cause such scandals to have less impact than expected. Trump’s continued support for Robinson might raise questions about his judgment, considering Robinson’s history of extreme views, but it's possible that Trump and his base see Robinson as aligned with their broader goals. Ultimately, the key issue is whether this will resonate with enough voters in North Carolina to influence the race, especially in such a critical swing state.
It's worth noting that the media has thrown almost everything at Trump over the years—scandals, controversies, and constant scrutiny—yet his polling numbers have remained relatively strong. This suggests that, for many of his supporters, these attacks have little impact, as they've either become desensitized to them or view them as part of a broader effort to discredit him.
It might sound cynical, but many Republicans feel they’ve become accustomed to what they perceive as the dirty politics often associated with the Democrats. This perspective sees frequent attacks on their candidates as part of a broader political strategy aimed at undermining Republican figures through scandal or controversy."It's worth noting that the media has thrown almost everything at Trump over the years—scandals, controversies, and constant scrutiny—yet his polling numbers have remained relatively strong".
That's an interesting thought. I'm not sure "they've" thrown things at him so much as he is simply the victim of his own words and actions. I mean he chose to endorse the man, compared him to MLK knowing he had said some pretty heinous things. And now these new accusations that he's called himself a black Nazi and would like slavery to return so he could buy a few... No one is undermining these candidates except themselves. They've created their own scandal through their actions and words, none of them are victims in my book.
Also interesting the idea that no matter what Trump says or does his base, for the most part, remains stable. Leads one to wonder where the line is? Is there any? Was he really right that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue? Sort of looking that way.That's a really tough and thought-provoking question, and one that doesn’t have an easy answer. In my view, Trump came onto the political scene like a wrecking ball—he was and still is highly controversial, with a style unlike any leader we've ever witnessed. His statements, like the one about 5th Avenue, were definitely inappropriate and grabbed headlines, but they also sparked endless debate. Then there’s his legal troubles, which many view as politically motivated or "Trumped-up" charges. Still, he won in 2016, and I personally felt he had a solid run. Some appreciated his tenacity and focus, while others definitely did not—and then, in 2020, he lost.
Now, we’re living through the administration of the man who beat him, and there's no shortage of opinions about how that’s gone. Many are asking themselves, “Am I better off today than I was four years ago?” Trump’s base remains large, though it's tough to gauge exactly how big. Interestingly, from conversations in my own circle, I’ve noticed some people who weren’t fans of Trump before are reconsidering him, especially as the shine of the Harris-Biden ticket fades a bit.Why are people SO FEARFUL of & HATEFUL towards Trump? Trump wants to improve & revitalize America. Trump isn't a globalist like Biden & Harris has proven to be. Trump has put Americans first while Biden & Harris has put Americans LAST. In the eyes of Biden & Harris, Americans are less than zero while migrants are more than a million.
~ well, I invited comments to explain how the world would be better off without Trump. I had only one comment. Nathan said that Trump was not for democracy and was rude to leaders in England.
https://youtu.be/QOrk0EKc-Oo
From the comment section:
"The more Trump says the more I like him! Well said Mr President, as usual you Are the voice of common sense. Come back to the UK soon you are MOST WELCOME!!!
PS I have no idea of what this video was about. I think it was from five years ago.
(Too lazy to look it up. Don't care.)
Debunking The Biggest Lies Told About Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpBh-Qi5dENo kidding, we are being lied to? Didn't we have an OP thread on that? Some studies point out the average person lies 10 - 15 times a day with an average family and social life. There are lies being told to debunk lies.
From a Pew Research study in 2019 Trust and Distrust in America we discover . . .
[Bear in mind lying is foundational to trust & distrust in practical everyday life experiences. I trust so and so as far as I can throw him/her because they lied. We have a lie detector for criminal as well as civilian investigations. Is that a hint?]
Trust and Distrust in America by Pew Research (2019)
Many Americans think declining trust in the government and in each other makes it harder to solve key problems. They have a wealth of ideas about what’s gone wrong and how to fix it
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 … n-america/
Pro or con?
Trump scolded those who critique the Supreme Court at a rally on Monday, saying people should be jailed for “the way they talk about our judges and our justices” – despite the First Amendment allowing people to criticize the government.
The former president, who has invoked his First Amendment right to launch a bevy of attacks against federal and state judges, suggested it should be “illegal” to rebuke judicial decisions or try and advocate in favor of a certain decision.
“It should be illegal, what happens,” Trump told a crowd in Pennslyvania. “You know, you have these guys like playing the ref, like the great Bobby Knight. These people should be put in jail the way they talk about our judges and our justices, trying to get them to sway their vote, sway their decision.”
Lol, wouldn't he be in jail?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 18050.htmlHold on now, did he just say that the medication my doctor prescribes for me can be laced with fentanyl? Big pharma is lacing drugs now?
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1838387892403736644He's claiming the rank and file members of teamsters endorsed him?
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1838372199000084776Trump: "I will restore the Salt deduction...."
Clearly speaking to a whole crowd of people who don't remember that he was the one who capped the SALT deduction. I remember it. It was the biggest tax increase of my life so far and his name was on the bottom line.
The king of flip flops.In my view --- Trump has publicly addressed the economic context, including inflation and rising costs, as part of his campaign rhetoric. He has expressed concerns about the financial burdens that Americans are facing, particularly in relation to taxes and the cost of living.
In various speeches and interviews, Trump has pointed to inflation as a critical issue impacting voters, especially in light of recent economic challenges. By framing the restoration of the SALT deduction as a response to these economic pressures, he aims to connect with voters who feel squeezed by higher taxes and living expenses at this time. At a time when many are feeling the results of Bidenomic's. I think this shows, that he moves to solve the current problem. As he did in 2017 with the SALT cap, which worked out well for many, but not so much for the wealthy.
Trump's focus on these economic issues reflects a broader strategy to position himself as an advocate for middle-class Americans and to highlight the perceived failures of the current administration in managing the economy. This approach resonates with voters who are looking for relief from rising costs and tax burdens, making it a key element of his messaging as he campaigns for re-election.
Trump's approach to navigating an ever-changing economy reflects a combination of adaptability, strategic messaging, and policy proposals aimed at addressing the immediate concerns of voters.
Regarding SALT -- In my view, He acts In response to economic shifts. Trump has adjusted his policy proposals by promising to restore the SALT deduction, he seeks to alleviate the financial strain on taxpayers in high-tax states, reflecting an understanding of how tax policy impacts different demographics. He hopes to alleviate the tax burden on already high-taxed states, in a true time of need. He does not write anything in stone, especially when it comes to economy. In my view, this is not a flip-flop, this is a policy to try to alleviate a problem for American citizens who are being over-taxed during a very hard economic period. The Democrats should like his policy, it indicates he cares about all Americans --- especially the ones in Democratic states where they are taxed to death.While you're response is logical, well thought out and makes solid points. Trump's SALT cap was absolutely a vindictive piece of legislation aimed at blue States. I don't really trust that he has become any less spiteful.
In my view, he did go after cash from the more wealthier states, which are blue. It certainly may have run many citizens out-of-the-blue states looking for relief.
You did not ask did it worked out well --- Thus far one could say no. Yes, the SALT cap contributed to increasing federal revenue, helping to offset some of the costs of the 2017 tax cuts. However, the overall Tax Cuts and Jobs Act still led to an increase in the federal deficit a bit, because the revenue generated from measures like the SALT cap did not fully compensate for the large tax cuts enacted in other areas. This could also be why he is reconsidering it as a mistake. I feel he is the kind of leader that could make a mistake, and work to try to fix the problem. I am sure many would disagree with my view on this issue.
I would appreciate if folks watch the following clip. Is this meant to be humorous? His demeanor is very serious in my opinion.
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1838384672595657175At a rally in Pennsylvania, Trump discussed the dangers of street drugs that are pouring in from Mexico that are apt to be fentanyl-laced. He emphasized the tragic scenario of a child taking what appears to be the same medication prescribed by a doctor, but unknowingly purchases a street drug tainted with fentanyl, leading to death. He was illustrating the severe risks associated with street drugs. That they can look like a prescribed drug. He was not insinuating our pharmaceutical industry produces medications laced with fentanyl—this issue arises specifically from illegal drug production and distribution.
My gosh, you're digging deep with this one...He said, "they take a medication prescribed by their doctor"
So what he really meant to say is that people get a prescription from their doctor but they go out on the street to look for it? I am lost on this one because all of the context around his statement does not really clarify what he is saying either.Yeshe did but it was clear to me at least he was referring to as I stated in my last comment. In my view, Trump clearly knows our drug companies are not contaminated with Mexican street drugs --- However, our kids can have the street drugs delivered to their doors... And they appear a carbon copy of what their doctor prescribed. Yes, many look for street drugs due to many drugs are given out sparingly such as sleepers, Zanax, pain meds, and many Psychiatric drugs. Where have you been?
I appreciate your clarification, it has become increasingly very difficult to follow any of his speeches. The "weave" doesn't work for me.
I don’t consider him particularly skilled in the English language; it would be difficult to argue otherwise. However, having followed him closely, I’ve come to understand his communication style better over time.
I've spent considerable time searching for context around the many statements the media reports as mistruths or exaggerations. At times, I’ve found that the media does him a disservice, while other times, I’ve been disappointed by his own words. I’ve made an effort to be fair and open-minded when interpreting Trump’s statements.
So Harris just finished a speech to the Economic club of Pittsburgh. Did anyone else listen in? Some points that stood out for me.
She said she was committed to working with the private sector and entrepreneurs to help grow the middle class. She told the audience that she is "a capitalist" who believes in "free and fair markets, and said her policies are pragmatic and not rooted in ideology.
I like the move away from ideology. It's refreshing. A lot of us out here are sick of the labels and the name calling. I've had it up to my eyeballs in the scorched earth rhetoric.
She said she “would take good ideas from wherever they come”
And also stated ..
"I believe we shouldn't be constrained by ideology and instead should seek practical solutions to problems realistic assessments of what is working and what is not applying metrics to our analysis, applying facts to our analysis. "
Sadly I don't think I have ever heard a candidate talking about applying metrics to anything. Just makes a lot of common sense.
I also like that she said she would work with local leaders to reform permitting and cut red tape because building projects are taking too long going from concept to reality.
Overall, I liked what I heard from her this afternoon.While I appreciate your perspective on Harris's recent speech, it’s important to remember that she has a long history of far-left values. With resources like YouTube, anyone can easily find her previous statements reflecting her socialist ideologies. Do you genuinely believe she could drastically shift those deeply held beliefs?
I watched her speech as well, and much of it felt repetitive and familiar. Her agenda seems unrealistic, and she still hasn’t explained how she plans to fund all of her proposals. It reminded me of a protester delivering a passionate speech full of flowery rhetoric, but in the end, you’re left wondering, "What did she actually say?" To be honest, she strikes me as a vacant shell, lacking common sense, speaking in what I’d call, to be kind, just "flowery" language. I believe she truly insults the American public with an agenda that’s clearly unrealistic and something she could never bring to fruition. Yes, it fun to go to a protest and yell "We are not going back". But when you're walking away you might think --- Hey she was the past. SMH.
Throughout her speech, I kept thinking about why she hadn’t taken action on these issues over the past four years. If she truly believes in these solutions, why didn’t she work on them earlier? While I respect your view, we clearly come from different sides of the aisle. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and I wanted to contribute my perspective as well.
Are you really on board with Harris, or do you just dislike the other guy?I watched it as well and I think someone needs to explain to harris that she is an incumbent.
Her line "'We just need to move past the failed policies that we have proven don't work" is classic denial that she is part of the current administration for the last 3 1/2 years.
I believe President Donald Trump would agree with her statement.It is rather astounding... that they try and pass Harris off to the American people as someone who has not spent the last 4 years running the show.
Weren't we told, first after Biden stumbled in the debate, and then when Harris first took his place that it WASN'T about them, you were voting for the TEAM... the policies?
Who makes up the TEAM... Antony Blinken, Pete Buttigieg, Rachel Levine... behind the scenes there is Clinton and Victoria Nuland.
The crew that has been running the show for the last 4 years.
And what is the alternative?
A team made up of Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and RFK Jr. I think I prefer this team's perspectives and accomplishments over the sorry state the Biden-Harris Administration has brought the country and the world to. Thank you very much.
Pre-internet, people tended to receive their news from trusted media sources whose journalists were required to follow strict codes of practice.
Today the internet is responsible for making people much more aware of the truths going on in the world around us... much more aware of the bias and BS of our News media sources, that do not follow the journalist's codes of old.
And how much of what we see today on Social Media is Bots?
Bots spread fake news, create fake accounts, which then gain followers, recognition, some of which are programmed to spread misinformation.
When I read an article like below:
FBI, cyber-cops zap ~1K Russian AI disinfo Twitter bots
https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/09/ … _bot_farm/
How much of that is really the FBI silencing the voices of American citizens?
We already know, thanks to the Twitter files released by Elon Musk, that the FBI went to great lengths to bury the truth about Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and countless experts in the medical field whose concerns over Vaccines were not considered acceptable prior to the 2020 election.
How many voices are being silenced, how much truth is being hidden from Americans this time around?"It is rather astounding... that they try and pass Harris off to the American people as someone who has not spent the last 4 years running the show."
How does a vice president run the show?I dunno... how does Biden, who is suffering from dementia, run it?
She made tie-breaking decisions in Congress as VP, handled the Border issue as Biden asked her to do, and represented America overseas for the last 4 years:
Lets look at Harris addressing the Munich Security Conference back in 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2jyU3c_xaQ
It is the Democrats that have been pushing the idea that it is a Party, a Team, that you are voting for... they were saying this when Biden was the nominee and reinforced that message when he stepped aside for Harris.
So, Harris is very much 'running the show' as much as anyone in the Biden Administration.Thank you! She was very much a part of the mess this administration had rained down on us. She can prance around waving her joyous arms in the air, and spew her ridiculous odd slogans with her twisted forced smiles... She is a leftist nut job. She ran in 2020 on all the very policies we witnessed Biden push. Hey, time to tell it like it is.
A vice president has absolutely no ability to act upon their own agenda.
Uh-huh...
My favorite Harris clip, keep forgetting to share it:
https://x.com/BSmi2030/status/1831953299005940140
Based on your reply, I would guess you have very little experience holding any serious responsibility in either the military or federal government.
VPs often are empowered to do a lot. Biden was when he was VP, Harris was when she was VP. This IS her Administration as much as it is Bidens."VPs often are empowered to do a lot."
What was she empowered to do? And your statement implies that whatever she was empowered to do was not of her own plan but that of the administration's. We elect a president with a particular agenda. We don't assume that the vice president will run his or her own agenda. This thought that Harris is running as an incumbent is disingenuous.
I don't think that's true when the president is suffering from dementia.
Trust me, Biden as VP wielded considerable influence and command, Dick Cheney wielded equal influence and command to Bush Jr.
Look at Victoria Nuland, she was never the #1 but held immense sway and authority in multiple administrations.
Most people have a very simplistic outlook on how the Fed, or the Military works... sticking with Nuland as my example, check out her titles and the length of service:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
The Vice President (VP) serves as the President's first advisor through several key roles and responsibilities that foster a close working relationship. Being part of the President's inner circle, the VP participates in essential meetings, briefings, and discussions, allowing them to provide immediate feedback and counsel on various issues. Many VPs bring specific areas of expertise or political experience that inform the President's decisions, offering valuable insights that help shape policy discussions. Additionally, the VP often represents the President in meetings with foreign dignitaries, domestic stakeholders, and at public events, enhancing the President's initiatives and communicating the administration's priorities effectively. In times of crisis, the VP acts as a crucial advisor, strategizing responses and managing communications to ensure a unified approach. The VP also plays a significant role in legislative affairs, working with Congress to rally support for the administration's agenda, negotiating with lawmakers, and providing strategic advice on navigating the political landscape. Ultimately, the trust and loyalty between the President and VP allow for candid conversations, making the VP a critical sounding board for the President on important matters facing the administration.
During the 2020 campaign, Kamala Harris outlined several key issues and initiatives that she aimed to address, many of which President Biden subsequently implemented during his administration through legislation. Legislation that some economists point to as destroying our economy due to spending. She must now wear the Biden administration's failures. I won't bore all and list them, we all have been living our lives around their failures."Supporting the administration's agenda" is the key for me from your post.
Yes, Kamala Harris is part of the Biden administration, and she has openly supported many of the decisions made by President Biden. In my view, the Biden administration has failed badly, and it’s hard to believe that Harris wasn't involved in some of the decision-making processes. Many of the policies Biden has implemented are directly in line with what Harris ran on during her 2020 campaign. For instance, the administration's push for a massive expansion of government spending through the American Rescue Plan and infrastructure bills mirrors Harris’s focus on government-led solutions. Additionally, Biden’s stance on clean energy, which includes moving away from fossil fuels and investing heavily in renewable energy, reflects Harris’s own platform to address climate change, including her support for the Green New Deal. Furthermore, their joint support for criminal justice reform, which includes bail reform and reducing mandatory minimum sentences, aligns with her past positions. The fact that many of these policies have been implemented during Biden’s presidency reinforces my belief that Harris played a significant role in shaping these decisions.
Harris is not a socialist or a communist under definitions of either. Can she a shift positions over time and moderate positions? sure she can, just as Donald Trump once said women should face some sort of punishment for abortion and has apparently watered down that position.
The following statement is closer to principles of communism than anything we've heard from Harris...
"These people should be put in jail for the way they talk about our judges and justices”. And actually this wasn't a one-off, he has made similar statements over the past few months.
He has also publicly raised the idea of using governmental power to strip media outlets of their broadcasting license. The continual praise of dictators? "Strongman" leadership? (I'm tired of hearing about Victor Orban) The idea that parts of the Constitution could be terminated? All sound closer to Communism to me.
In terms of funding initiatives, I believe she is clearly stated that such would come from corporate tax hikes. We've all seen reports of economists and financial experts weighing in on the pluses and negatives of Harris versus Trump in terms of tax plans and the scales definitely tip in Harris's favor. I'm on board with a bottom up approach rather than a top-down approach.
Why she hasn't taken action in the past 4 years? Well I suppose because such action isn't within the job description of VP. Is the vice president able to enact a platform of their own? What agenda did Mike Pence accomplish ? Or any vice president for that matter?
In terms of being on board with Harris, after her Pittsburgh economic speech, I am more supportive and more encouraged by her presidency. Why? Because I heard something new, fresh, that resonated with me.
What doesn't resonate with me? Trump's continual angry, divisive extremist rhetoric. Scapegoating of immigrants and Jews doesn't resonate with me. The continued juvenile name calling and " US versus them" nonsense doesn't speak to me either. For me, his messaging is ugly and unappealing. As an independent voter, he's done nothing to sway me.The scales may tip for Harris (tax plans) for you, but continual tax hikes don't make it for a great many people. Not even ones that don't come directly from their own pocketbook, but from that of someone else.
Not everyone in the country is of the opinion that anyone with more than they have must give it to politicians to distribute to individuals in the hopes of buying votes.Biden...
"When we talk about 28% tax rate — Ronald Reagan was 28% tax rate — you know, that wacko liberal guy, the idea that that's an unreasonable amount…"
lol was anyone calling Reagan Robin Hood?
Many consider the Reagan era a time of great economic prosperity, yet when Harris proposes a similar corporate tax it's communism?
Our current corporate tax rate is 21%.
Harris proposes a 28% rate."Not everyone in the country is of the opinion that anyone with more than they have must give it to politicians to distribute to individuals in the hopes of buying votes."
Great point, me for one... Worked hard for what I have, not even willing to jump on board with distributing wealth. I prefer democracy over socialism. What our nation has thrived on...Well, some social support systems were of benefit to Americans, especially the elderly.
But today we take things beyond the point of sustainability or the wellbeing of the nation... we have put millions of non-citizens on our social support systems while allowing Americans in need to fall through the cracks.
If the trend continues, it will add to a debt that we cannot now maintain... we now spend more on the interest payments to our national debt than we do on our Defense budget, which is also too costly.
We cannot maintain what we currently allow, let alone fulfill the promises that Harris is making in her campaign... more free stuff for more people while raising taxes is a disaster in the making.
Harris is attempting to frame herself as the ‘change’ candidate, her victory would simply mean more of the same as we have seen the last 4 years, increasing the trillions being spent, in record amounts, until it all collapses.
Or until inflation goes back up to 7, 8, 9% consistently.
Kamala Harris is not grounded in reality.
We agree...
I personally believe that Harris is not grounded in reality, and there are several reasons why I see it that way. Her agenda, particularly her support for things like the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, seems unattainable given the massive financial and logistical hurdles. While her ideas may sound good on paper, implementing them would likely require huge tax increases and could cause major disruptions to the economy. Take her push for banning fracking, for example—this could devastate energy-dependent industries and lead to significant job losses. Additionally, her stance on criminal justice reforms, such as bail reform and reducing sentences, raises serious concerns about the potential increase in crime rates, making her proposals feel disconnected from the real-world consequences.
On top of that, her demeanor often comes across as dismissive or overly rehearsed, which makes it hard to take her seriously. When tough questions come up, she tends to laugh them off or avoid giving clear answers, which makes me feel like she’s not really explaining how she plans to make her ambitious goals a reality. This lack of clarity and the fact that she doesn’t inspire much confidence when discussing her agenda make it hard for me to believe that she can realistically achieve what she’s proposing.Cancelling the Keystone XL Pipeline was the worst thing that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could have ever done. I can understand them wanting to promote green, renewable energy. Elon Musk is a conservative, and even he wants to promote green, renewable energy. However, to get from Point A to Point Z in that same trajectory, we all first need to get to Point L. Because our green, renewable technology is still in a state of evolution, it would have only made sense for Biden and Harris to leave the Keystone XL Pipeline alone in the meantime so that our oil and gas prices would not have skyrocketed.
If Biden and Harris had environmental concerns about the Keystone XL Pipeline, they could have consulted with scientists in Canada who were involved with it to learn how the Canadians have avoided any problems with it. Biden and Harris were too lazy to do that. Then they went completely hypocritical in their causes when they offered to help Vladimir Putin build the Nordstream 2 pipeline from Russia into Germany. Luckily, Senator Ted Cruz and a number of elected officials ran interference on that.I completely agree. Canceling the Keystone XL Pipeline was a major misstep by the Biden-Harris administration, especially when considering the practical needs of our economy. As much as renewable energy is the future, we aren't there yet. The transition requires a realistic approach—bridging our current energy needs with the future we aim for. Shutting down Keystone without a sufficient alternative has contributed to rising fuel prices, which affects everything from transportation to the cost of goods. It's a real burden on the American people, particularly during a time of economic uncertainty. This was a true example of the poor decision-making I harp on here on HPs. He creates problems he can't solve. I also feel strongly Harris had her mits in on killing Keystone.
On top of that, the hypocrisy of Biden and Harris offering support for Nordstream 2 is hard to overlook. If environmental concerns were truly their priority, then backing a pipeline for Russia while shutting down a project that would benefit American workers and energy independence just doesn’t add up.
Consulting with Canadian scientists, as you pointed out, could have been a step toward finding a balanced solution that respected both environmental concerns and the need for stable energy prices. Instead, Biden's approach seems to lack the kind of foresight and pragmatism needed to handle such complex issues.Certainly there would be some data or studies that show the impact , positive or negative, of canceling keystone XL?
From what I see...
"The Keystone XL pipeline was never needed. It was initially proposed to transport up to 830,000 barrels of heavy crude oil daily from Hardisty, Alberta, to the U.S. Gulf Coast. Between 2014 and 2022, however, U.S. pipeline companies found ways to leverage existing excess pipeline capacity to transfer additional oil without Keystone XL. As IEEFA reported in 2022, minor pipeline upgrades and a reversal of flows on one major pipeline were more economical and flexible than building costly new infrastructure with an uncertain future. The approach adopted leaves a system better suited to adapt to the energy transition.
Moody’s Investors Service (now Moody’s Ratings) concluded in July 2021,“The revocation of the presidential permit and subsequent cancellation of Keystone XL earlier this year was credit positive,” allowing the company to rely primarily on internally generated cash flow and a modest increase in debt to address its reduced capital program execution risk.
I don't know, it looks like it wasn't really needed and oil companies have persisted to make profit hand over fist.
https://ieefa.org/resources/insight-dem … ne-project
Not only Harris but many Democrats aren't grounded in reality. Observe the present environment. Many Democrats parrot Biden-Harris policies although such policies are detrimental. They see the inflation, crime, & other ills but they avoid the issues at hand. They may even rationalize these issues.
It’s truly baffling to conceive how so many Americans, for reasons I can’t explain, have seemingly been brainwashed into accepting these narratives. Not only Harris but many Democrats appear ungrounded in reality. Just look at the current environment: many Democrats parrot Biden-Harris policies, even though those policies are clearly detrimental.
They see the inflation, crime, open borders, and other issues plaguing our society, yet they continue to avoid addressing the core problems. It’s almost as if they’re rationalizing these issues away instead of confronting them head-on, and realizing the problems that could occur. It’s frustrating to witness this disconnect from the reality many of us are experiencing. Solutions are few at this point.I would say it but I was raised to be a lady. There is an old Southern saying, "God bless your heart" which doesn't have a positive meaning. The New York interpretation I can't say at all-it would be utterly profane.
But her current platform does not include a ban on fracking or Medicare for all or a green New deal.
And as we all know, no politician ever states that they believe in what they do not just for political gains.
I don't believe her. I don't feel one could disregard their true ideologies. In 2019 and 2020 she spoke passionately on the subjects I mentioned, what I felt were unrehearsed, and her own words. She either disregarded her values or she was lying previous to running. She already pushed her green deal through Biden.
So with the same thought, I should believe that Trump would likely move to punish women who receive abortions as he previously stated that there should be some form of punishment for the woman?
Has he reconsidered his stance, or has he remained true to what I might call his principles? He rarely retracts his statements. I did notice him walk back some of his earlier positions on abortion. A pro-lifer asked if he would support an abortion ban, and he outlined his key values on the issue but ultimately said he wouldn’t impose a ban because he needs to consider the views of all Americans. This was during a town hall meeting, though I can’t recall if it was on CNN or Fox.
As for Harris, I don’t believe she has strayed from her core beliefs. Her campaign focuses on benefits for the public, identifying certain individuals as price gougers, and imposing higher taxes on the wealthy. To me, this all clearly signals, “I am a proud socialist.”
Strangely, it seems you don’t see this. She is being quite explicit about her positions.Wasn't it his true ideology though when he stated he thinks women should be punished? Or he lied? I'm confused. I mean he's gone back and forth on this issue so many times. If I shouldn't trust Harris when she has moderated positions, why should I trust Trump?
That's why I asked, "Has he reconsidered his stance, or has he stayed true to what I’d call his principles? He rarely retracts his statements."
I don't think he has ever walked it back; he tends to hold firm to his views. I'm not endorsing his perspective—I actually disagree with it—but he certainly has the right to express it. You could say he is quite open about his opinions.
To be honest, I'm not certain when he made that statement. It reflects a very strong pro-life perspective.He made the statement in 2016. So he's allowed to reconsider his stance?
I don't feel one could disregard their true ideologies. He spoke passionately on the subject. These are his own unrehearsed words. He either disregarded his values or he was lying.
So he is allowed to reverse a position, he no longer wants to punish women who seek abortion but Harris must be nailed to the wall because she moderated her position on fracking?
At least she's still a Democrat though right? I mean I think we're forgetting about the biggest flip flop of all when Trump changed over from Democrat to Republican.. How does one completely change their ideology? I'm to trust such a switch? Some would call this a complete value switch. But I'm to believe he holds firm to his views? Which views are those?
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/06/2 … -abortion/
I think she is going to be great...
I think how she works international relationships will be brilliant...
I mean, it will be hard to live up to the brilliance of dementia Joe....
But she is so inspiring, she will be the 1st women President...
The 1st, like George Washington she will be remembered forever...
She is the perfect representation for what America is today...
I really don't think anyone else is a better fit to represent the USofA...
She will be our Margarett Thatcher, she will transform our Nation...Oh, absolutely! I can’t wait to see her lead us into a new era of brilliance! I mean, who wouldn’t want a president whose international relations strategy includes a lot of blank stares and confused twisted smiles? And let’s not forget how she’ll be remembered forever for her wonderful Momala hugs, and her choice of VP! Let's not forget Tim. Truly, she’s the perfect representation of America today... if today were an episode of a comedy show. Honestly, with all this excitement, are you still in your right mind?
... moments like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaqPrHLDK8ALove this satire. We need humor at this point. We laugh to keep from crying. We have to make fun of this political absurdity which is Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is a total trainwreck.
I've actually seen Kamala Harris go into panic mode on television during press conferences. I honestly don't think she can handle the job of running the Oval Office and a country. Like Joe Biden, she's someone who runs a nation like a slumlord would.
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~ and what about the Kids of America?
Who cares about them ... ?
From before birth and ON and ON and ON -------->
Well then, I guess this means that you are ready to let up on J.D. Vance!
My problem with Vance? That Trump could not fulfill a term and we would have a president Vance.. he's powerless as VP
Well, gee. He's an older, obese man who often looks like he has trouble breathing, sweats profusely and slurs words as if he has likely had a mini stroke at some point.
Women for Kamala and the Killing of Kids, (in more ways than one,)
are found only on the democrat side, which is now a very weird reality.
The Way I See Itlogically speaking, women should be held responsible for murder when they go ahead and kill their pre-born kids.
It is a very Spock-like conclusion, but the human side of him might not agree.
We, as compassionate humans, MUST excuse random hook-ups, moments of passion and feelings of so-called "love"...
But it's false love and illogical, mean and shallow!
And MEN are just as guilty. So, they would need to be held accountable too.
Maybe for men and women, who choose to murder their pre born unwanted child/offspring, a year in counseling and instruction on how to keep their pants on ...
before they are 100% committed to each other.Are you disappointed that Trump reversed his position on punishing these women? I've read quite a bit on social media that many of his followers were disappointed when he reversed course.
DJT also talked about the death penalty for drug dealers. He said America wasn't ready for such a drastic penalty, even though it would eradicate the drug problem, as it has in China.
He did not reverse his position. He just knows holding people, (the mother and father,) responsible for murdering their unwanted offspring wouldn't be accepted by Americans who are used to a lot of leeway/freedom when it comes to moral/immoral issues.
In this Christian-Judaeo nation, everyone knows the following story from the Bible: Jesus gave a woman, who was being stoned for adultery, leeway when he asked the men who were about to punish her, "Who among you is not guilty of sin?" And they dropped their stones."DJT also talked about the death penalty for drug dealers.".
Curious, Do you think this would have an effect on our nation's drug problem?
I see that he supported the death penalty for drug dealers in 2022 but has he reversed his position since then?
PRO...
"Vice President Kamala Harris has supported bipartisan border security solutions and has demonstrated a long-standing commitment to working with regional partners to address the root causes of irregular migration"
In response, the current administration’s focus evolved to leading a hemisphere-wide effort to mitigate, manage, and order migration through creating and adopting the landmark Los Angeles Declaration on Migration and Protection alongside 21 partners from across the region—notably the first time such a hemispheric-wide agreement directly involved the United States and Canada.
So what Harris has done?
Under the LA declaration,
Harris has secured unprecedented cooperation to curb irregular migration. Today, for example, Mexico is doing more to stem irregular migration to the United States than it has ever done before. The administration also created alternatives to irregular migration so that individuals fleeing Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
Because of Harris..
So far in fiscal year 2024, compared with fiscal year 2021, there has been a 14 percent drop in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection average monthly encounters from Guatemala, a 39 percent drop from El Salvador, and a 50 percent drop from Honduras.
Her role in seeking to reduce migratory push factors in northern Central America has been successful.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n … -approach/
https://www.americanprogress.org/articl … -straight/PRO?
Not sure how I missed this, media coverage was thin to none..
"Vice President Kamala Harris continued her leadership on gun violence prevention today by announcing an additional $285 million in funding to help schools across the country hire and train mental health counselors. The funding to hire and train counselors, psychologists, social workers, and other mental health professionals"
I think this is extremely positive. Added counseling staff in our schools could help identify children with mental health issues, get them the help they need before they slaughter their fellow students.
This is a start and addressing root causes and goes a little further than our standard thoughts and prayers.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen … tal-healthPros and cons concerning immigration?:
Has Trump stated whether he will revoke Biden's executive orders enacted in June of this year?
Should he?Enacted EO's in June 2024, how long has he been president, and yet migrants have been pouring in? Now today in a report ICE provided the new data to lawmakers, and we find that over 13,000 migrants have committed murder, with many more thousand more being rapists—almost half a million
criminals overall. Why did he allow this? You ask if Trump will revoke Biden's executive orders.
As of now, Donald Trump has not publicly indicated whether he plans to revoke Joe Biden's executive orders from June 2024.
Yes, in June, Biden announced several actions aimed at reforming immigration processes, such as easing the visa process for U.S. college graduates and taking steps to keep families together by allowing certain noncitizen spouses and children to apply for lawful permanent residence without leaving the U.S. Was this really a priority, or just another invitation?
My question is, why didn't he stop the murders, rapists, and thousands of migrants with criminal records from entering our country? I suppose to liberals, his actions/EOs seem very positive. I am sure some will ignore the fact that we now have truly violent migrants in our midst. Perhaps even praise him for his humanitarian gesture... Wonder how the loved ones feel about Biden EO's and the fact he let in criminals that took away their loved ones. perhaps they did not realize, he puts migrants before keeping us safe from criminal migrants. Wonder what happened to vetting. Oh, they were vetted, and yes their criminal records were noted, and they were released into America.
I will assume you might ask --- what are Trump's plans to handle the mess Bidenn has created?
Donald Trump has outlined several key immigration policies for his 2024 campaign that signal a return to the stricter measures of his previous administration. He plans to terminate programs such as Temporary Protected Status (TPS), Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), and humanitarian parole, which collectively support around 1.4 million people currently residing in the U.S. He has also proposed suspending the refugee program entirely, asserting that it has been misused and allowed undeserving individuals to enter the country. Additionally, Trump aims to enhance deportation efforts, particularly targeting known or suspected gang members and drug cartel members and has expressed intentions to invoke the Alien Enemies Act to facilitate these deportations. His proposals further include the elimination of humanitarian parole programs and a commitment to terminate work permits for individuals living in the U.S. illegally. Trump emphasizes that these changes are necessary to reinforce border security and address what he describes as a crisis stemming from Biden's immigration policies.
I always felt much safer under Trump.The specific executive orders of Biden's I was referring to are the changes to asylum and the temporary shut down power at the border.
If the courts don't strike them down I am sure Trump would choose to keep them if he found himself in office again.
In 2020 the Supreme Court upheld DACA. Do you believe he should go after these folks again?
'Additionally, Trump aims to enhance deportation efforts, particularly targeting known or suspected gang members and drug cartel members"
Interestingly enough the bipartisan border bill increased resources and changes policies to close loopholes being exploited by criminal cartels.
Sounds like he's suggesting some very similar ideas to the bill he previously tanked
Do you think he would find Congressional support?
I think that there is a vast gulf between his ambitions and the legal, fiscal and political realities of mass deportations of millions of people.You keep falling back on the border bill. In my view, it was really bad, and would just add a new invite to immigrants. I can see why Harris falls back on it. Most Americans have no idea how bad the bill was, and many believe her words, and do little to no checking if her words hold truth.
Which parts of the bill would be considered invitations?
Added agents? Terminating catch and release? Raising the a bar for asylum?
Trump, if elected, has no authority to make the changes he is blustering about. Executive Orders can not change existing law. And are shut down by the courts rather quickly when attempted.
That power lies with Congress. Even Trump admitted he needed Congress to pass border legislation; it wasn’t something he could do unilaterally. During his term, he wasn't able to get any immigration reform done. He was ineffective at rallying congress.
Why would this time around be any different?President Biden's immigration bill has drawn criticism for several reasons. One significant concern is the provision allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants to legally enter the U.S. by plane each month, which some argue could exacerbate the already overwhelming challenges faced by border control and immigration systems. Critics claim this could strain resources and infrastructure, as local communities may not be equipped to handle the influx of new arrivals. Additionally, opponents of the bill point out that it fails to adequately address border security issues, leaving open the potential for increased illegal crossings and human trafficking. Furthermore, there are apprehensions that the legislation might inadvertently encourage more individuals to attempt to immigrate without proper documentation, undermining the rule of law. The overall lack of comprehensive measures to ensure both humane treatment of migrants and the protection of national security has raised alarms among various stakeholders, including law enforcement and local governments.
Why say things like this? He has the mentality of a 10 year old.
Former president Donald Trump asserted Vice President Kamala Harris was “born mentally impaired” in the first few minutes at his Wisconsin rally on Saturday afternoon.
"Joe Biden became mentally impaired, Kamala was born that way,” Trump told a room of rallygoers in Prairie du Chien.
https://www.wionews.com/world/trumps-ca … way-762860This is a simple election process for me...
The person I supported to be the nominee for the Democrats in 2020, is endorsing Trump in 2024. She will be on his Cabinet.
America and the world would be a much better place today if Tulsi Gabbard had been elected President in 2020. But we ended up with the most corrupt and incompetent Administration instead, and we have paid a hefty price... a price that is getting worse every day.
We need to stand with the people we have believed in... the Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. types as they risk everything, as the DNC, Harris, the Administration the people who have been in DC for way too long pulling strings try to destroy them.
If we don't stand now for the people who are standing up for Americans today, for the future of our children, the nation, the world... there will be no opportunity to stand with them in the future, it won't come again in our lifetimes...
These people have risked it all from Assassination attempts to political careers ruined in an effort to awake Americans to the threat.
Maybe its time you gave what they have to say a listen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zcJU2EjxYWhat is so outrageous is that in spite of all the facts that you cited, there are still people out there like Professor Allan Lichtman and Harry J. Sisson who continue to believe that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are legendary heroes. What is wrong with these people?
"What is wrong with these people?"
I consider that one of life's many mysteries.
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