Anti-gay senator arrested for DUI after leaving a gay nightclub

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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
These things always make me laugh, oh the hypocrisy...

http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blog … -club.aspx
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If that's true, it's sad and maddening of course.
  
  But indeed the article says he's sorry. One can assume he's ashamed of something---either getting caught or else ashamed of his actual behavior.
  That's something many people have none of---shame for being involved in perversion.
  That shame leads to repentance if one is willing to do so. And that's the only salvation any person has.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This explains why christians are such criminals and behave so badly. They know there is no everlasting judgement as long as they are ashamed afterwards.
  
  I was wondering why Christians did not need to follow the rules they so loudly shout about.
  
  Thank you for clearing that up.
  
  Do you have to wait to be ashamed of preaching against the word and being ian adulteress? Is it OK to go on doing that even though you know it is a sin and then be ashamed later?
  
  What is the cutoff point? Do you have to be ashamed already or only when you get caught and it is in the newspapers? I must admit - I like the sound of your religion more and more Brenda.
  
  "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law as long as you are ashamed when caught."
  
  Liking it a lot. Where do I sign up?
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  Mamelodyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nicely put Mark.. Christians today are really complete fcuk-ups..
  
  What annoys me the most is those that preach against something like homosexuality and in the end you find out they've been homosexuals for a gazzilion years!
  
  Christians should learn to understand that its not their words that people listen to.. it's their actions that people see. I believe the book of James puts that very clearly that "be yea doers of the word and not hearers only"
  
  Most Christians today are just hearers and hypocrites and thank God he doesn't judge us according to our sins
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He is only sorry because he got caught.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe.
  Who knows?
  Surely not you, unless you've talked to him.
  
  I suppose time will tell.
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  Tom Cornettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He could use the Clinton excuses:
  
  "I did not have sex with that man!"
  
  Alcohol....."I didn't swallow."
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  grass - "I had one joint, but I didn't inhale!"
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Obama: "Yes I inhaled. That was the point!"
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  Tom Cornettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I had quite a few pounds...I didn't exhale.
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  omg haha
  
  this title gets today's "Best In Show". hee hee how funny...
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  Phoenix 69posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So do we know for sure WHY he was at that club? Does he actually have sex with other men or was he just looking to get the gay vote? Maybe he decided their votes count, too. Just like all those people out there who don't give a crap about illegal aliens because they can personally make money from them.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe ask the guy who was in the car with him.
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  JeanMeriamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well if the DUI was caught while they were still driving away form the club, then he can probably honestly say he did not have sex with that man.
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
Stupid is as stupid does.
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Kathryn LJposted 14 years ago
Whats a DUI?
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Driving under the influence
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  Kathryn LJposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not quite as naughty (sexually) as I was expecting. A plonker on so many levels. Driving under the influence - unforgivable. Anti-gay, how does someone get away with this crap nowerdays?
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  Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's a Gay charge anyway
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago
Well obviously as long as you don't get married being gay is okay with him. LOL!
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Ohmaposted 14 years ago
No surprise. Our government is run by idiots who are fueled by hypocrisy, and like apologizing is going to change what?
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Colebabieposted 14 years ago
I debated on whether or not to post this
I'm glad someone else did.
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Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago
I just love pro-family, Chritian, conservative hypocrites. They are so much fun to watch get caught. In the men's room, in Argentina, in gay bars.

It's why they have a God that doesn't require anything but believing in him to be saved. If they had to earn it, they'd fail miserably. All this guy has to say is I Believe, I'm Sorry and his God says okay. And the Christian followers go along....
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ouch!!
  Love it
  
  I'm not the kind of person who stops to look at a car crash... but I do love watching hypocrites squirm.
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mr. daydreamposted 14 years ago
Maybe he mistook all the transexuals standing outside waiting to get in the club for women (lol).
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  Kathryn LJposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!
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  china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  or thought they were a queue of heavy make-up-blue-rinse conservative christian women and went in to touch up a few votes !
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StormRyderposted 14 years ago
Damn..another one!! How many of these anti-gay, holier than thou republicans have been getting caught doing this stuff the past few years??...Its really is funny actually
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Jewelsposted 14 years ago
Skeletons always seem to come out of closets.
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trooper22posted 14 years ago
ROFL! I love the "Wrong Wing" they just can’t keep a lid on their most ardent anti-gay flamers from going "Fabulous!"
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
Maybe he just likes going to gay bars?
I used to love going into gay bars back in Glasgow. If you bumped into someone on the way to the loo or when making your way through a crowd, the gay contingent always said sorry or graciously accepted your apology. In a straight bar you got growled at with "watch where you effen going!"
I liked the atmosphere, it was much more relaxed. and p.s. I'm a straight as they come.
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  Kathryn LJposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah Izzy but you didn't then go on to a political career slagging off said nice gay community did you? Agree with you on the gay night out though. I used to enjoy a night out in Manchesters Canal Street, it was safe, fun and I made loads of good friends.
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  IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No you're right. I wouldn't be so two-faced as to say one thing in public and do another in private. But then all politicians are the same. That's why we hate them so much - none of them deserves our vote especially after the expenses scandal.
  The guy got a DUI too, he must have thought he was above the law. Typical politician!
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Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago
I agree Izzy, but you don't think being gay is a sin and make a career being part of the Christian right who thinks it is.
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  IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nope, nor do I understand where this christian movement came from. There are plenty christian churches in the UK and none of them are gay-bashers, as far as I'm aware. They all accept people for what they are. Even Spain, a Catholic country, allow gay marriages and you never hear of gay-bashing here; the people are tolerant of everything - laid back - when I say everything I obviously don't mean everything - like they hate pedophiles and rapists and murderers and the like - but ordinary people going about their business and not bothering anyone else, no probs.
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  Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think that this might be an American thing. We have a Religious Right here that seems uniquely Puritanical and Hateful.
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  kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, even the Catholic Church seems nastier here - just look at their recent behavior in DC. Apparently they feel that discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation is more important behavior for Christians than helping children and the needy.
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  livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's called "effortless virtue." It's easy to bash gay people when it doesn't require any change in your own behavior.
  
  Quite a bit more difficult to follow Christianity's other commandments to take care of the poor, love everyone, etc.
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  thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hehe that's true, one of the first questions my future american inlaws asked was what denomination of Christian I was, they did not even conceive that I might not be religious.
  
  Over here in the UK and a fair amount of Europe, religion is much more of a background thing. I can't speak for the entirity of america, since my view is still fairly limited, but even in the liberal areas the religious intolerance seems just a little bit stronger than I am used to, it kinda freaks me out a little bit!
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Was it "intolerant" of them to ask you that?
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  thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, the intolerance comes in where I actually have to pretend to be religious to be accepted by her grandparents, just like my fiancée has to pretend to be religious if she wants anything to do her grandparents as well.
  
  That is true intolerance. I don't care if they are religious, but they care if I am not religious.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If I had been one of your prospective in-laws and was concerned about such an issue, which I'm not, I would have asked that question of my daughter, not my prospective son-in-law.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You didn't say anything about 'pretending' in your previous post.
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Rayalternatelyposted 14 years ago
politician = liar. Well what a shocker!
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  Mamelodyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
Has he "come out" yet?
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  Kathryn LJposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That wouldn't be you being a bit naughty earnestshub would it?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Moi?
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He might have came....I'm not sure about came out though??
  Why does it seem to be the republicans always getting caught with boys or in gay situations?....Or is it just my imagination that they are the ones we hear about all the time??
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  Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think a few Democrats have been busted in these types of situations... However, they typically do not vehemently protest this type of behavior like some if not several Republicans. Likewise, people tend to remember Republicans like this individual mentioned in the article.
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are probably right Kendrick!
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  Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks StormRyder.
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Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years ago
An unidentified man was in the vehicle with him. lol...
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It was probably Mitch McConnell who appears to be a bit light on his feet!
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  Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol...
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thisisoliposted 14 years ago
To be honest the problem is not with the hypocritical gays who promote anti-gay bills, the problem is with those who would have never let them get to the position they are in if they were openly gay. The problem is that in many systems the people who don't let the gays in to power, are the voters.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who "would never let them"?
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  thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The voters, collateral low level homophobia is a big hurdle for the few openly gay politicians.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
He will probably be like that minister who was caught in a gay affair (can't remember his name) but his wife has forgiven him and he has said he is not now or has never been gay so all is forgotten now...

However, if he were a liberal politician people would still be calling for his head.

It is fine to be a gay politician but not admitting it to the voters out of fear of reprisal, it is another thing when you are constantly condemning gays and denying them rights.
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torimariposted 14 years ago
Ah, the tasty irony.
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kerrygposted 14 years ago
Haha, I do love watching the hypocrites squirm.

But I would love it more if their own self-loathing wasn't driving them to make policy decisions that hurt real people, including some I love.
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
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Mamelodyposted 14 years ago
Another nincompoop that should be shot for wasting everybody's time..
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
Mark,
Why are you taking such an interest in lil' ol' me?
I'm nowhere near as experienced as you around here.
But anyway, hey, I do have a hub in the works, dedicated to you.
I'm sure you're waiting with bated breath! (NOT) haha.

You won't like it.

Should I refrain from dedicating it to you?
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
Oh wait....

I think I've been too hasty in assuming you have some special interest in my posts, Mark.

I bet you treat every Conservative and/or Christian with the same disdain.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Only the hypocrites, sweetie pie, only the hypocrites.......
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I see.
  So...you're trying to save me from what you perceive as the error of my ways, right?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not in the slightest. I am pointing out that you are in no position to be pointing the finger at anyone.
  
  I have no interest in saving you whatsoever. But people who go around preaching when they are not perfect invariably cause srife and arguments.
  
  As you do.
  
  So - I am attempting to get you to be a genuine christian instead of a hypocrite in the hope that if I can get enough of you to be so - the world will become a better place.
  
  Make sense?
  
  As an example - The Arch Boishop of Canterbury has been preaching a LOT about the "ills of secular greed" and the need to "invest ethically".
  
  The CoE just recently lost £60 million in a dodgy real estate deal that involved illegally evicting rent controlled tenants from their homes in NYC.
  
  I guess the reason I am so against your religion is that it is very much a "do as I say, not as I do" religion. Disgusting really and has caused 1800 years of wars.
  
  Take yourself as another example.
  
  Publicly claiming to be scared of those who go against the Word - and doing so yourself. Defending yourself all the while. Hypocrites, Brenda - Hypocrites. Jeebus had a few words to say about them also if I recall.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Scared?
  
  I'm not personally scared of them.
  
  I fear for the morality of this nation as a whole and I fear for the souls of innocents individually who are being led astray by the liberal mindset.
  
  Yes, it makes sense----you don't care about my soul, you just want to tell me how to be something that you yourself have no interest in being.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No - I want you to be what you are claiming to be and stop being a hypocrite.
  
  You fear but are quite happy to go against the word yourself?
  
  Don't you think that the example you set as a divorced woman living in adultery is exactly the sort of "liberal mindset" you are preaching against?
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
oh..

honey bunch! haha
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
What I'm asking is WHY?
WHY do you want me to stop being what you perceive as a hypocrite? That's my question.
You said the world would be a better place. How would it be a better place?
You said I'm not perfect. I agree! How would the world be a better place if I were perfect?? Jesus was perfect, and yet you refuse to listen to Him. I am "perfect" in Him because I'm a sinner saved by His grace.
What is it you're looking for, Mark? Perfection? Then you've missed out on it so far, because you ignore the One who is Perfect.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOL
  
  The world would be a better place if you practiced what you preached.
  
  But - it seems that is not necessary. You can go around demonstrating "the liberal mindset" by getting a divorce and living in adultery.
  
  Yet you feel you are qualified to preach out loud that others should not do things that you percieve to be the "liberal mindset" and corrupting others.
  
  See how this is hypocrisy and people will not be able to take what you say seriously - because you do not follow the rules you preach about?
  
  And you do not understand why this causes strife and wars?
  
  So - when you tell me I am missing out on perfection - I cannot believe you because you are such a hypocrite. See?
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
What I see is that you cannot believe a sinner can get forgiveness for their sins.

I'm so glad God is more forgiving than you, Mark.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wonder if you would feel the same if it was President Obama we were speaking of.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yes, I caught that also. as long as it's someone she likes.
  
  when people think this way, there is no logic in their viewpoints.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely!
  Obama has the same chance to get forgiveness as anyone else does.
  But forgiveness requires recognition of one's sin and being repentant for them. I see no indication that Obama is repentant of anything at all.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not at all sweetie pie. LOLOLOLO I said quite clearly what I meant. You are preaching and doing the things you preach against.
  
  There is a word for this.
  
  Christian.
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  Mamelodyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Damn Brenda, you sure love a good fight.. good luck though.. Mark's a tough one
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Even he has a soft spot somewhere in his heart.
  Wouldn't be human if he didn't.
  I will find the soft spot if it takes me......a whole day! ahhaaa
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Dear me.
  
  I have no soft spots for hypocrites who preach "do as I say, not as I do," Brenda. Sorry.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wasn't referring to any "soft spot" for me.
  I mean there must be a soft spot somewhere in your heart for Jesus.
  But I probably was dreaming to think I could find it.
  He can, Mark. He can.
  I just hope there's one there, when He comes to find it.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Rubbish. I don't need your incredibly misguided interpretation of the bible sweetie pie. A long dead maybe does not need anything from me and I got what I need from the bible long ago thanks.
  
  Lets get back to the subject at hand which is hypocritical preachers who do not do as they preach huh _
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JeanMeriamposted 14 years ago
Well I don't get it. Why can't you have openly gay politicians in the states? I find it funny when I hear the arguments about family values. What kind of family value is it to hate and condemn other people's children or possibly your own?

He's a politician. He has to say what the voters want to hear to keep his job whether he holds the same beliefs or not.

The DUI is what is serious here. That could cause actual harm to another person.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We do have a few openly gay politicians in the U.S., most notably Congressman Barney Frank from Massachusetts, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. There are several openly gay mayors also. However, in many states and jurisdictions (Red states)being openly gay would mean the odds of getting elected near zero.
  
  http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10181376
  
  http://www.queerty.com/polis-to-become- … -20080813/
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
Sin? What a joke.
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livelongerposted 14 years ago
I thought this article was hilarious (I am in no way connected with the author and get no sort of kickback!): Top Five Republican Gay Sex Scandals

It's a list of the top 5 only in 2007... Of course, since then, there have been dozens more.

The intro is hilarious:
"It’s gone past ridiculous and straight to the absurd. At this point, it appears your average public restroom has more gay Republicans in it than clean handtowels. The “holier-than-thou” party has spent an awful lot of time on their knees this past year, but they haven’t been doing a lot of praying."
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
I think I touched a nerve there.
We're making progress!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. I thought I made it clear that I think hypocrites are a bad thing and cause conflict and violence wheresoever they go. Was I not clear Brenda? I am not a big fan of deliberately obtuse either. I find it dishonest.
  
  I will try and be more clear in future.
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Pandoras Boxposted 14 years ago
If I was a male republican, who actually wasn't gay, I don't think I'd visit the men's restroom at any republican conventions.
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  Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Or take a shower at the gyms they frequent.
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creepyposted 14 years ago
im surprised by the reaction of many here i thought liberals liked gay people oh just gay people that vote the way they do i get it
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not people who deny gays rights. It's the hypocrisy that gets to people.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hypocrisy like saying i didnt have sex with that woman but i really did oh yeah thats a lie i forgot how moral democrats could be
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  kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If Barney Frank got caught in the men's restaurant with his pants down and his **** in another guy's mouth, nobody would blink an eye, because Barney Frank has been out for years and doesn't pretend to be something he isn't.
  
  But you can't go around preaching about "family values" and the evils of gay marriage and expect people to let it slide when you get caught in that situation. It's the hypocrisy people are scoffing at, not the orientation.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you kidding? Certain people would be screaming for his head
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  screaming for his head thats funny
  
  i personally like head from a woman
  
  but whatever
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He's been 'caught' doing a lot worse than that and he's still there in the Congress.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  its not the hypocrisy its that a conservative got caught doing something wrong in your eyes
  
  the truth is hypocrisy is a virtue in dc
  
  and the republicans have not cornered the market on that virtue
  
  not by a long shot
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We just don't like gay, phony homophobic Republicans. You sound like a whining Republican to me. Are you gay and creepy or just creepy?
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  is this what they call a personal attack
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Seems like one.
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sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
It's Sunday Knuckleheads give it a rest!
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Hypocrisy like denying rights to people and condemning them for how they lead their lives and lets not forget the DUI.

And I'm not a Democrat.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  how does one man deny rights to many people
  
  what about the dui
  
  is that a sign of his lack of morals or a mistake that 1000s of people make everyday
  
  maybe youre right
  
  we should shoot him to make an example of him
  
  love your tolerance
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creepyposted 14 years ago
wasnt calling you a democrat

democrats in general
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
DUI is illegal regardless of who you are. It would be just the same if a Democrat who condemned gays was caught coming out of a gay bar and arrested for DUI.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  no it wouldnt
  
  thats the hypocrisy
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Yes it would be...the conservative pundits love to bring up wrongdoings by liberals while ignoring those of conservatives.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  no they dont
  
  they do not deny what someone has done
  
  they hold them to task for it
  
  are you sure youre not a democrat
  
  you sound like one
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Actually, when I posted this I had no idea he was a Republican. The National Post is not exactly known for it's "liberal" views.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  national post
  
  i am unfamiliar with the national post
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is where the news story came from. It's a major Canadian newspaper.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  oh
  
  youre canadian then
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have newspapers up there? I thought you just carved stuff on trees for the next hiker to find.
  
  (j/k)
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rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago
susan, he sounds like someone we know, doesn't he?
have you checked his hub?
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am becoming a little suspicious
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you dont like my hub
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmmm, you do realize how to spell pictures?
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i do but my P key doesnt work
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmmm, I'm going back outside on the patio.
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  creepyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ah the atio
  
  see there it goes again
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  " my P key doesnt work "
  
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sunforgedposted 14 years ago
i read the original article but not all 7 pages of responses..theoretically, a politicians vote should reflect their constituency's wishes not their own personal beliefs.

I also despise hypocrisy and limitations on personal freedoms but I would equally despise an elected official who did not represent the interests of those who elected them

note: I know nothing about this individuals political base
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