Perception: Sex is Evil?

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   Hey Hubberville,
   
   There are plenty of people who find "Sex" as evil. The act creates life(except when precautions are used to prevent pregnancy), so how can it be bad?
   
   Creating a life-form inside a woman is the ultimate creation humankind can do as an individual. The power itself is "GOD" like power.
   
   The "War" on Pornography is Christian based and was started by the Religious Community, either individual sects or from the influence of the Vatican. Simply because it goes against the moral ethic code of the "bibles" and "God's Will".
   
   Doctrine #2> To oppress all natural desires in life - not defined properly or even explained properly, and it directly anti-life to begin with.
   
   The word "Sex" has a broad definition to different people, because perspectives/perceptions are skewed by religious interpretations, for which, were never meant to be taken literal.
   
   If you oppress your own natural desires, then you fight against the very essence of who you are as a human being. How is this a benefit? It's not!
   
   The "War" on Pornography is all about morality. The Porn Industry is a business, that offers a product/goods or services, to people who want it. Is viewing Pornography morally wrong? No, it is not, simply because of your own self-interest is to watch it, if you deem so as a choice. It doesn't harm anyone or anything, by simply viewing.
   
   If it did, then the violence located in most of the TV shows on wouldn't be able to be watched, because the same rule would apply. Does violence on TV contribute to violence in society? It's been deemed as not to be true.
   
   Thus, leaves one conclusion: Those who claim righteousness, apparently don't know or understand morality in and of itself. But, are willing to enforce their belief on others, so as to restrict their individual rights of choice.
   
   What arrogance is that? WOW!
   
   Sex is NOT evil.
   
   Okay, my rant is done.
   
   Anyone else want to take a shot at it?
   
   P.S. This was not located under the Politics-Social Issues or Religion and Beliefs- Social Issues - Humanities or Exploring Options, simply because it's a mixture of everything known about life and it's not meant for debate, but for civil discussion.
   
   So, please keep things in a civil tone or otherwise don't waste your energy.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Cags:
      STANDING OVATION! CLAP,CLAP,CLAP,CLAP...ADINFINITUM!!!!!!

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you Qwark.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Cags:
            My pleasure!   :-)

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      goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You're right!  It is very God-like in nature.  It is one of the reasons we uphold womanhood to such a high standard.  However, because it involves the powers of creation, it is among the most sacred of gifts that we have been given.  For this reason it must be mastered and protected.  Mastered, by means of respect and developing true mutual happiness.  Protected, through disciplining oneself of when these powers and feelings should be employed.  There is a vice to everything and because of the sacred nature of this practice, the adversary uses "vice means" to dilute it's nature and meaning thus inauguring the use of pornography, prostitution and self endulging practices.
      
      Yes, I do firmly believe that for those who are married yet view pornography are, indeed, committing adultery.  All things are conceived of spiritually before they are manifest temporally.  If one thinks a thing to satisfy such lust, it is the same as doing the thing.
      
      This is how sacred, and dangerous, sexual activity is.  It goes beyond diseases and way beyond the personal "ratings" one gives the experience.  Sexual activity was meant and designed for procreation and the unifying in mind, body and spirit a husband and wife who have taken their vows of matrimony.

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         skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hell i was right when i posted self-bias.

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Nice religious subjective view. Skewed as usual. But Thank you for your reply.

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   frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

   Some view sex as evil? Wow. Big shame. Huge.
   
   I can't think of a more enjoyable method to buttering my way to a new car or pair of boots.
   
   No begging and sneakin' around here cags. Nope. I'm up front and take it like a man.
   
   I mean woman
   
   *Cags code: BUMP*

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   TLMinutposted 14 years ago

   Major difference in saying "Sex is evil" and saying "Porn is evil". Pretending they're the same is merely a way to ridicule anyone with a different standard.

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sex is the basis for Porn. Duh! I thought that was obvious.

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         TLMinutposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That's a weird response. We all know that but it's obvious that there's a difference.
         
         Anyway, many who say porn is evil are merely responding to the horrors of the industry that are such an integral part of it - drugging and rape, pandering to base instincts, child abuse, kidnapping, etc.
         
         Yes, there are those who believe porn as a concept is evil but whatever. People like sex, men are visually stimulated, it's just the way it is. Even helpful in some situations.
         
         It's perfectly possible to think porn is objectionable while loving sex.

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   *BUMP* And, the little lady appears out of thin air. WOW! She hopped right in with both feet.
   
   Yes, Big Shame! HUGE!
   
   
   How are you today Frog?

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   1. Some people want to remain single (for the sake of religion or personal problem) so they hate sex.
   2. Some people can't jerk off anymore so they hate sex.
   3. Some people get low on sex drive so they hate sex.
   4. Some people had their best sex and now lost interest so they hate sex.(age factor)
   5. Some people increase their family to 5-6 kids and now they think porn is evil, yes they're right.
   
   When it comes to porn you either like it or you don't. (Not trying to defend animal-porn or core-porn,yuck)

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I certainly hope you don't see things in that manner.
      
      Because, it's completely based on pure assumption of others.
      
      People hate just to hate.
      People hate because they are programmed to hate.
      People hate because they choose to hate.
      
      Why do people choose to hate? Simple, actually. People choose to hate because they lack knowledge and understanding of what it means to be a human being and obviously have no integrity.
      
      Integrity is based on honesty and love. It's the fundamental structure of who were are as a individuals and as a race/species.

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         skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Not always it's like that. Many times it falls into "self-bias" and not lack of knowledge and understanding. People choose to hate when their comfort zone is disturbed. Even rational/tolerant person can get into hate-club if his comfort zone is disturbed.

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   Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

   I agree, cags.
   
   However, people do use sex a weapon at times, and other people get addicted to sex. Both are harmful, but I think the point you trying make is that isn't sex that's the problem, it's the person's view about sex that becomes the problem.
   
   The same could be true with about anything, really, including TV and movie violence. Some people are addicted to tanning too much, only to find out later the consequences of doing so.
   
   But I do agree that social/religious connotations are pretty archaic.

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      These people are mentally inept.
      The problem is that they are harmful. The harmful aspect is the effect of the root cause, which isn't the sexual attraction as lead to believe, but a self-control issue.
      Archaic? Dead more like it.

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   Poppa Bluesposted 14 years ago

   I don't think many would say sex is "evil". Being that we are human and can reason and empathize with the feelings of others we have established codes of conduct and ethics which we try to adhere to. Typically we don't broadcast our sexual desires and appetites for all to see. We don't usually have sex in public even though some may find that quite arousing. We don't do these things because we don't wish to offend someone that may not think like us. That doesn't makes us evil or them righteous.
   
   So feel free to watch all the porn you want, and just because sex is natural, and it feels good, it doesn't mean it should be on display for all to see. Taking a crap feels good too, and some are even aroused by a hot steamer placed strategically between their breasts, but I don't think we'd like to see that performed on the table in one of our favorite restaurants.

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   H.C Porterposted 14 years ago

   Just like anything beautiful and pure in this world-
   Sex can be evil as well as pure, good and beautiful...
   Depends on the users 

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   Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

   i don't see how sex can be perceived as evil to quite honest. i always viewed it as two lovers expressing how they feel about each other through physical contact. Or for procreating life; sometimes both.  Or for some people its just a way to have a good time.  However, never evil.  Now PORN is evil as it does promote sexism and if you stop to think about it is  technically illegal. 
   
   For you see prostitution is illegal on the basis that it's wrong to pay someone to have sex, and/or get paid  by someone to have sex.  Which if you stop to think about it, Porn stars are getting paid to have sex with each other.  Therefore, it's technically a form of glorified prostitution.  However, being the capitalistic society that we are,  we tend to ignore that fact.  Plus, you got to admit as much of a jerk those porn CEO's are, they know how to exploit things. 

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Okay, I was with you up to a point. However, PORN is NOT evil. It is a business that provides a product/goods or service to those who want it.
      Why is prostitution illegal and what State do you live in? It's legal in many places, but can be trumped up on a "Federal" crime, if is in the benefit of Government(state and federal)
      
      How is that not an invasion of individual rights of life or rights of choice?
      
      Then, any women who marry men for their money are prostitutes?
      
      Thank you for your input.

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         Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well the last time i checked getting paid for sex or paying someone for sex was illegal. in fact, the only state i know of that allows it is Nevada, and the only reason i know that is because i saw a documentary about it a while back.  unless you can name another state where it is legal, i'll stand corrected.
         
         however, you are right. maybe saying porn is evil was too strong of a word to use. plus, you are right about it being a business.  in fact, i think disney owns vivid videos (porn company), so i'm sure they'd agree as well. lol.  who knew mickey mouse was involved in porn?  however it is a glorified version of prostitution when  you stop to think about it, since it involves the act of doing the exact same thing as prostitution.  the only difference is they're being taped so others can watch them later.  Not that i have anything against the porn industry or porn actors themselves.  However, i am a person that believes in giving credit where credit is due.  plus, i never try to ignore the obvious.
         
         as far as women marrying men for their money goes, i don't think they're prostitutes. However, i do think it's wrong if you ask me.   call me old fashioned, and I know some people marry for social status and money a lot of times. However, in my mind, marriage should only be out of love.  if you love someone, then marry them.  otherwise, if you only care about their money, then you shouldn't as it's wrong. I know if i was a billionaire or millionaire, I wouldn't want any woman marrying me for my money. That's why if i won the lottery, I would tell NO ONE about it except my family, as they'd be the only ones i'd share it with. Then I would get a job that i loved like being a artist or writer, then tell some girl i was dating that i was poor, so she'd love me for who i was.  of course, if things got serious to where marriage seemed inevitable, then i'd tell her that i was rich.
         
         however,  marrying someone for money is just wrong.

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    frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

    Cags I'm fine and dandy thank very much. Maybe I should insert a word that rhymes with dandy, just to be silly
    
    *BUMP B.A.Y*
    
    Interesting thread btw - and some interesting responses. I think the 'sex is evil' bit can be removed from the hating of said act though. Evil and hate, though somehow related, aren't in this case.
    
    I'm not sure hating 'it' is quite the same as declaring it evil. Besides - evil is a far more powerful and creative thing, whilst sex is somethings that's firmly rooted in the very essence of what makes us tick.
    
    Those that claim it an act of evil would do well to remember that without it - they wouldn't exist. Oooooo I bet that'd make 'em shudder

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    Hokeyposted 14 years ago

    is not evil. No way. When it comes to      I think that even though I am not into watching it why should it be wrong if it is all consenting      s?

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    when I can't have it, it is evil!

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       Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well than if we get married you will always be happy!! 

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          mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          ok, lets do it!  also since you love cleaning bathrooms, I would be doubly happy!

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             Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Thats not all!!!   

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                mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                ok, time for full disclosure!

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    JeanMeriamposted 14 years ago

    I think Cags that you're glossing over the point that porn can be evil, much like anything else can be evil. Within the porn industry there are frequent abuses of the actors involved and that is where porn becomes evil. It depends on who is involved, what their decision to be involved is based on, etc. I really can't stand the thought of some 18 year old girl selling her body, whether being video recorded or not, because she feels like she has no other options or was coerced into it.
    
    There is also a growing trend towards kidnapping young women and forcing them into prostitution and pornography. So, is viewing porn harmless? Not always. It feeds the motivation for the criminal element to supply the market.

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       Isabelle22posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Some great points Jean. There are some porn videos that are completely sick too not to be confused with making love in real life. It can go to extreme.

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    also cheese is evil, when you won't share it with me.

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    full dis-clothes-ure? get it?

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       Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I would like to get it!

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          mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          tee hee :

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    Sally's Troveposted 14 years ago

    Cagsil wrote:
    
    People hate just to hate.
    People hate because they are programmed to hate.
    People hate because they choose to hate.
    
    Why do people choose to hate? Simple, actually. People choose to hate because they lack knowledge and understanding of what it means to be a human being and obviously have no integrity.
    
    People may not choose to hate; instead, they find themselves hateful out of fear. Hate happens when one's being, identity, or integrity is threatened and there is no avenue of escape in sight. In this sense, people do hate because they are programmed to hate.
    
    There are many who view or did view sex as evil because they were taught to fear it...by parents, or the church, or culture.
    
    As for pornography, there's nothing wrong with it, unless its practice is coerced. It is tragic that the billion-dollar sex industry grinds its wheels on both willing and unwilling participants.
    
    I take exception to your comment that people hate because they choose to hate. It's not that simple.

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I would think a lot of people would take exception to that, including many racists.
       
       But, that has nothing to do with this topic.

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          Sally's Troveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          True, this has little or nothing to do with the topic of this forum post. But you are the one who brought it up.

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