They are rich. They are highly educated. They think they're smart enough to be subtle in their desire to destroy people of a different race or religion. Unlike Rand Paul; this new age terrorist claims she is a Messiah. She just wants to help the poor Muslim People. Lead them out of Egypt or some Shtt. She would be funny if she wasn't so dangerous!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/2 … 91112.html
I never heard of her until last night during a Committee meeting that was held to vote on a new Muslim Mosque and Cultural Center here in the World Trade Center area. She spoke out against the building of the Mosque, but she claims to have nothing against Muslims. She wants to help the Muslim people by FREEING them from their religion. She is so evil and obvious. But she actually thinks she's being Subtle.
I dunno much about her yet...
but if she does claim to be some kinda Messiah, she's badly mistaken.
However, I find it really odd of you that you'd label someone "evil" who's against building an Islamic mosque in Christian-based America, especially near ground zero of all places.
You're calling HER a terrorist??!!! Amazing! Where's your compassion for the victims of 911? And your honor of patriotism??
P.S. How'd you like that Air Force One flyover over your city that the Obama Administration allowed? Or was that an act of comfort instead of terrorism or carelessness?
Sit and think for a minute? The 911 Families are thinking like victims of a horrible crime against them. I'm am thinking like an American Citizen and a New York City Born and raised resident that has the right to say I want my Country and my City to Welcome the Mosque to the World Trade Center. That's how United States Citizen and New Yorkers want to be seen as, AMERICANS!
Your Minute is over.
How could you say such unChristion like things to ms?
There are innocent Muslim bones and ashes in Grond Zero! Their Mosque belongs down here just like any Church, Temple, Synagog, or Kindom Hall!
Brenda - here's a flash for you. The United States of America is a secular country that doesn't give precidence to Christianity over Buddhism. The arithmatic is obvious - there are more Christians in the USA than Hindus but in the eyes of the law - both sects are EQUAL.
You libs do hold onto your fallacies, don't you?
Reckon you think that if you say the US is secular enough times, it will make it so?
Here's a flash for you Doug----most of our laws, even U.S. bankruptcy laws, were based on Biblical principles.
This nation is not an "experiment" as your icon in The White House says it is. It has a solid Godly foundation. Why liberals would try to crack it is beyond me.
Brenda - The founding fathers VERY deliberately excluded religion and any test of religion from the civil, secular government. The earliest rulings by the Supreme Court quoted Thomas Jefferson's opinions about the need for a wall of separation between Church and State.
Many Americans are familiar with the quote on the wall of the Jefferson Memorial,
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." The statement just before that is less known and it illustrates the cynicism of the founding father twoard religious nuts who gravitate to power..
"The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly, for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion ..."
Current religous kooks want to claim that the founding fathers intended to yield to religous superstitions - but all the evidence from the time of the founding fathers gives lie to the claim.
No more than the right wing-nuts who continually claim that America was founded on Christian principles as if saying it enough times will make it true.
Quiz for you:
What was the first national motto that Congress approved?
How many times is God or Christ referenced in the Constitution?
Who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, and what were the original words?
I'll be impressed if you get the answers right without looking them up.
I don't know.
What I do know is that America was based on Christian values, not Islamic values or non-values.
It's that simple. Yes it is. If you'll consider all our laws and even consider how America righted the wrongs that it DID do, you'll see that those principles were based on Biblical rules and reasons.
Quiz for you-----exactly who/what do you think has protected and Blessed our nation until now?
Is the anwser...GOD otherwise know as...(BUDDAH, CHRIST, ALLAH, JEHOVAH, YAWEH, RA on aad on and on) Which one do you think has the time to write the laws and rules of our little Country on our tiny little planet?
"-exactly who/what do you think has protected and Blessed our nation until now?"
Protected? I'm pretty sure that's the Department of Defense's job.
Blessed? Sorry, I can't verify that the US has in fact been blessed. Can you?
"What I do know is that America was based on Christian values" Then you're mistaken. But keep repeating it. Maybe it'll become true if you say it often enough.
The Continental Congress approved e pluribus unum, novus ordo seclorum, and annuit coeptis as our nation's mottoes. It wasn't changed to "In God We Trust" until the 1950s.
There are exactly zero references to God or Christ in the US Constitution.
The Pledge of Allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy, a baptist minister, and, incidentally, a Christian Socialist. The phrase "Under God" did not appear in the original Pledge. It, too, was added in the 1950s.
All this ostentatious public piety that the religious right loves so much (but that Jesus spoke against*) was not established during the founding era but during the 1950s. It was added in by zealots during a time of heightened paranoia and xenophobia. But let's not let a little thing like the founders' intentions get in the way of inserting religious trappings into our secular republic. What did those guys know anyway?
*Matthew 6:5-6 "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
But hey, let's not let a little thing like the words of Jesus Christ tell us that we shouldn't be turning our public patriotism into public piety. What did that guy know anyway?
You are correct that U.S. citizens want to be seen as Americans.
And maybe you should sit and think for a minute about what you're saying! You said "The 911 Families are thinking like victims of a horrible crime against them." but that YOU were thinking like an "American citizen".... Well, duh! It WAS a horrible crime against them. How could you say such an unfeeling remark about those who lost loved ones on 911?
You can say any outrageous thing you want. Don't put words in my mouth. I can speak for myself.
You would not like the words I put in your mouth. Trust me...
I probably wouldn't. I wouldn't speak the words you'd try to put in my mouth! lol
You're being very un-nice for sure. What's your problem?
"How could you say such an unfeeling remark about those who lost loved ones on 911?"
I'm right here in New York. I have the right at long last to speak my mind without being UNFEELING to the 911 Families. The People of this City and this Country cannot walk in lockstep behind the 911 Families. They are not thinking about what is good for this City or this Country. Do you really expect them to welcome a Mosque to Downtown Manhattan or anywhere else in this entire world?
It is you that is Unfeeling to me. I was here. I smelled the smoke. I saw the hole in the ground for years. How dare you speak of 911 Families. It is you that could care less about the 911 Families. They are a Punchline to you.
Not as bad as Ann Coulter, who said the 9/11 wives enjoyed their husband's deaths!
Or Glenn Beck, who said he was sick of them.
I geuss they complained too much because their loved ones died, and the president (Bush) didn't care to find out just how and why.
And boy you are lucky you're not in my mind, because think of the level of anger then.....since I believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Just imagine that one. and seee how you would feel about your so-called born-again Christian leader-in-chief and his satanic band of Cheneyites.
You're the one with the strange attitude.....you believe anything someone tells you as long as the political/religious persuasion is right.
The Holy Rollers are replacing Jefferson's philosophy with Calvin.
Soon the separation of church and state will be erased.
It's The Handmaid's Tale...coming to life!
(Margaret Atwood novel written in 1985)
I have to ask... who's more dangerous. Radical muslims wants to kill some of us here and there to force us to change our way of life. The Tea Party nuts like Geller & Paul want to destroy our Government, our Country, our way of worship, our control of our bodies, our control of our minds.
Flip sides of the same damn coin, if you ask me...
Radical nuts killed 3000 people at the world trade center. They were monsters that made life hell for the good decent Muslims here in this Country. Now, when the city tries to heal the wounds caused by hate, another Monster crawls out from under her rock and buys hate ads and slaps them on the side of some of our city busses. After weeks of being ignored; she shows up at the committee meeting that voted to build a Muslim Mosque and Cultural Center near the World Trade Center. It was so Opportunistic for her to invade that serious meeting for the purpose of trying to sell her plan to destroy the Muslim People. Does Pamela Geller have an address in downtown Manhattan? Does she have a business Office near the World Trade Center? What was she doing here?
She's a Zio-Con.
Text of Pamela Geller's remarks at Pro-Israel Rally, NYC April 25, 2010
"First of all, I want to thank my Yid Army for showing up. I love my Yid Army! Thank you so much for coming out in the rain. And thank you, Beth, for putting this together. I think it’s appropriate that it’s raining. There’s a reason why it’s raining. For the first time in American history, we have an anti-Israel president. His premise is false. The narrative is false. The Islamization of the narrative must stop. (Cheers) It must stop with the truth. And truth is the new hate speech. (Cheers)
I ask you, what is a settler? I reject that term. I don’t want anyone ever to use it again. It’s a Jew living in the Jewish homeland. There are no settlers in Israel. What is the West Bank? It is not the West Bank. It is Judea – Jew-dea – and Samaria. There is no occupation except the Muslim occupation of Israel. (Cheers)"
You're right friendly...she's a monster. One who would kill babies and throw people out of their homes.
And since when is Obama anti-Israel? You mean if you don't kiss butt, you're anti? No, that's being Pro-American. Every other president has bowed to Israel, to our detriment and at great cost.
We don't exist for Israel...we are a country of people from all over the world.
Who is this woman? Where is the guy that started this hub? Is this terrorist behavior? This is the first forum I read, and then it just died.
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