In other words, is this hatred just typical of the hatred of the Democrat party when they are in power, or is Obama doing something different?
Was Clinton more respected by Republicans, and if so why? And did Clinton earn more respect towards the second term or did he suffer from the precise same problems?
I am too young to remember, but answers on a postcard
does a cigar taste better after it has been 'Lewinskied'?
He got major kudos from my recently pubescent self for that one, she was bona fide MILF at the time.
Cor blimey! I hope you raised your standards before getting married in Las Vegas.
MILF? Wasn't she in her early 20's?
There was rampant hatred for Clinton on the far right. However Clinton has this charisma that Obama doesn't. Also Clinton wasn't dealing with the economic issues Obama has. People hold the President responsible for their economic woes....
They spent more than $60 million to indict him for laying about Monica, but only $6 on the investigation involving the recent recession. You tell me.
I have to agree with Mark on this one....
She was not a mother... let alone one I would like to ____
Monica Lewinsky a MILF?
What was she,like 21 years old? That's too funny, Ryan!
Bill Clinton showed questionable taste in his dalliances, that's for sure. I mean, Monica and that Flowers chick were no Marilyn Monroes!
The Clintons were the victims of a relentless right-wing campaign called Whitewater. What a waste of taxpayer money that was. And in the end, look where they are now? Clinton got a second term in office and left with a budget surplus.
He is now one of the most effective ambassadors for this country and is even beloved by George Bush Senior (and rumor has it,also Barbara Bush). Hillary Clinton holds arguably the 2nd most powerful position in the US government.
Goes to show you can't keep a good couple down!
[I started to make a snide remark about "going down" but decided against it ]
At that time I was a conservative Republican and I thought the Clintons were sent from hell.
But I got over it. I see him as a man vexed with sexual addiction who has a terrific capacity to negotiate and see things quite clearly in many regards, in the US and abroad. I think Hillary is a powerhouse. She just seems unflappable, which is one of the reasons why I admire her now.
Took me a while, but I came around. However, at the time, I do think he had nearly ALL republicans against him because of Whitewater and the sex scandal. I think Obama has more respect than Clinton did in his day. But the story's not over yet.
Guys, I was only 13 or 14 when the allegations came to light, boys of that age are excited by everything!
I'm glad you recovered from your teenage vision impairment.
Boy,where they out to get him! Spent BILLIONS on it too....and for what?
And believe it, they will do it to Obama too.
While completely ignoring the former R criminals of the century. idiots.
That was the beginning of hate-talk radio too (for me anyway)
Limbaugh was relentless in his hatred, just as he is now.
"Philanderer-in-Chief", "Pot-Smoking Draft-Dodger". Said Clinton ordered the murder of that guy....called him a wimp, a hater of troops....god it was awful listening to that clap-trap. Just as it is now listening to it against Obama.
But Ohhhh, Bush was GOD.
Crimes? What crimes that compare with Bushco?
All I can hope is that there is a God and that he/she is Just. Been waiting for a long time on that one.
I suspect that should a situation like the Monica Lewinsky affair surround Obama, he would not be forgiven as was Clinton. Perhaps, due to the historical position Obama holds, as the first non-white president, more is expected of him, and the less people are willing to forgive mistakes he will make. The same was true of Margaret Thatcher, as first female prime minister.
Why anyone ever thinks that this leader or that leader is working off their own ability always escapes me.
They're all just the customer service front of whoever is yanking the chain - and the chain yankers are probably the same people, just different faces.
Not many folks grasp that, but I would agree with you for sure. It is not just the face out front occupying the White House, it is the policy promoted by their handlers on both national and international levels with particular goals and visions for the world. Americans would do well to pay attention to that, but most do not.
I still see a lot of "tribalism" involved here. None of us like to admit it, but we all practice it - it's human nature. Policies aside, this guy just doesn't look like John Q. Public. I am not saying it's an issue of racism against Obama, but there is something there that goes deeper than just his policy....
Jesus Christ, sorry I thought MILF is Moro or Muslim Islamic Liberation Front, - I googled it and I was LOL. It made my day.... It is BTW a group of Muslim militants that are linked to Al Qaeda which bombed trains or public places in the Phils.
I am not yet here when the Monica Lewinsky thing happened but I figured that if Republicans are treating the Clintons the same with B O now, then it must be the way it is here. I figured Presidents are more respected in other countries or people are more free to speak here, sometimes it borders on disrespect to the Office.
I'm never going to be a republican or a democrat. As soon as you do that 50% of the political population hates you!
I think with Clinton we started seeing the first signs of the rampant polarization of our political landscape as it stands today.
Begun under Clinton, taken to extremes with Bush, and now carried forward with Obama, I think it's safe to say the days of bi-partisanship in any meaningful form are over....
I grew up in a part of rural Nebraska that was 99.9% Republican. I was still in public school when Clinton was elected and I remember in the school's mock election he got only 5 votes, three of which were me, my sister, and my brother. After his inauguration, I remember sitting on the bus listening to some of my friends plot how to assassinate him and make it look like an accident. They were already devoted listeners of good ol' Rush.
Then we started homeschooling, and at that time, 99.9% of the homeschoolers in our area were fundamentalist Christian. They were convinced that Clinton had ordered the murders of a bunch of former associates. I kid you not: http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
Some also thought he was the Antichrist. (Just googled "Clinton antichrist" and it seems they've now decided they were mistaken back then and Clinton was only the "decoy" Antichrist. )
The number of right-wing militias also exploded during the Clinton years, but I think it started dropping again after Oklahoma City when people started realizing that maybe calling for armed insurrection against the government wasn't such a brilliant idea after all, since some people are crazy enough to actually do it.
Militias have been on the rise again since Obama was elected, and it remains to be seen of the Giffords shooting will provoke a similar cooling off.
Anyway, though, the answer is yes. Obama's getting the same treatment Clinton did, though a few of the details have been changed. Obama gets accused of being a secret terrorist, not a murderer, for one.
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