Equality under the law

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   I think we should have a new policy on gun-ownership.
   I think that before someone wants to buy a gun, they should have to watch a video depicting what really happens when someone gets shot.
   Show the graphic details of what happens to a person who is hit with a bullet.
   Blood and guts, gore and pain.
   That way, maybe more people can be persuaded not to buy a gun.

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      BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have a better idea....that they be over 21 and have the ability to pay for it.
      
      Sorry, but I keep coming back to that whole pesky Second Amendment thing......

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         ..as you interpret it, which is vastly different than interpretations given by legal scholars including the ones sitting on the supreme court who in 2008 declared your version to be a bunch of nonsense.

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            BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Which explains why all of us still own guns, I guess, right?
            
            Second Amendment is still the law of the land, my friend....

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               Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               The actual one yes.  Your wet dream one...not so much.

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                  Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Why are you so angry?
                  
                  It's not good for you.
                  
                  I just bought a Beretta 9mm the other day in less than 30 minutes.
                  
                  Got 3 extra magazines with it.
                  
                  Suhweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

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                     BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I don't know why I even bother to respond to Ron anymore, his post making light of the tragedy in Japan demonstrates that there isn't much there worth debating....

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                        Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        You can keep trying to convince yourself that I was making light of the victims, but that won't make it so.
                        
                        You don't answer me because facts are not on your side.  If you want to debate the 2nd intelligently, you should at the very least be familiar with District of Columbia v. Heller.
                        
                        ...if you want.

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                           Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           exactly.. you conservatives can go to Heller!!!..
                           or the District of Columbia.. which is pretty much the same thing at night

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                              Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Why do Greeks always suggest taking projectiles in the buttocks?

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                                 Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 better to project than to receive

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                                    Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    How many attempts does it take to come to this conclusion?

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                                       Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       depends how big the projectile is during the learning process

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                                          Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          are mice larger than gerbils?

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                                             Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             Greece doesn't have any gerbils

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Your avatar is a sexually frustrated, grimacing man.  Mine is a T.Rex blissfully consuming a Jesus Fish.  Which one of us is angry.
                     
                     The Berretta is a piece of crap.  You should have gone with a Sig or a Kel-Tec.

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      Aya Katzposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Will the video also show how killing the right person at the right time can save the lives of countless other people that this person was about to kill?
      
      Also, how do you think sadists will feel about watching a video like the one you propose forcing on everyone? Do you think they might enjoy the show? Last time I heard, the liberals were pushing the line that graphic violence on TV promotes violent behavior.

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         Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You don't really expect a liberal to believe what they want to force on others do you.
         
         Mooshell Obama pushing fruit while she stuffs her face with sausage.
         
         The community organizer telling us all we must sacrifice while he spends, spends and then spends some more.
         
         Like I said before, listen to what they say and do the exact opposite.
         
         You wont be wrong.

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   Equality under the Law?
   
   First off, Equality isn't Equal Rights.
   Secondly, Equality is a reference made with regards to America's "way of life"- It is each person's equal ability and opportunity to obtain the same status as those who are the wealthiest.
   Thirdly, the Law isn't applied Equally.
   
   As for your suggestion of a video, it should be part of the Educational foundation of Gun Ownership. However, people see the stuff presented as you want in movies all the time. You rarely see any videos of real people killing real people with guns.
   
   I would like to show a video(if your stomach cannot handle it, then do not click on the link). It's actually a music video, which depicts a man who decided that he wasn't going to take "NO" for an answer and attempts to take what he wants. He ends up being shot in the head.
   
   The song is by Tatu- it's called "All About Us". Again, if you don't have the stomach for it, then do not watch the video....
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qjx8IXkgjE
   
   If you want to see the destruction a gun can have, you shall. Watch the entire video. Good song.

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   Sorry, that link is useless. I didn't realize the one section needed to be seen is cut out.
   
   
   Edit: Here is the uncensored version.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTJBxvNKQcw

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   BillyDRitchieposted 12 years ago

   Why does this idea remind me of drivers education class when they used to show all the films of car accidents complete with corpses......

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Billy, basically it would almost be the same thing.

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      PrettyPantherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Does it remind you of anything else?  Think hard now....

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         

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   barryrutherfordposted 12 years ago

   Like signing up to the military & going to war?

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   Greek Oneposted 12 years ago

   They should not have to watch a video.. that's just silly.
   
   They should have to get shot... nothing serious mind you, just on the foot or buttocks.
   
   That would bring home to new owners the power of the weapon they possess... as well as slow them down a bit in case they purchased their firearm in order to go on a rampage

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      Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You liberals sure are violent.

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         Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         oh come on... you conservatives are such softies.. toughen up a bit!

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      BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What's next?  Getting run over by your new car to encourage you to drive safely?

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         Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That would just encourage pedestrian safety

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   Mishaposted 12 years ago

   I am totally missing what all this has to do with equality under the law?

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The point is that conservatives have as equal right to go nuts as liberals do...
      
      The problem is that when they do, they often have a Beretta 9mm handy

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         Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Does the law prohibit liberals from buying the guns? If not, I still miss the point.

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            Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            A liberal with a handgun.
            
            Just remember the projectile comes out of the end with the hole in it, very very fast.

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               Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Conservatives are more familiar with this concept due to their extensive research with penises
               
               sorry.. cheap shot.. but it was there for the taking

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            maven101posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm with you, Misha...I thought the thread was going to be a serious discussion on equality under the law, but instead find liberals pontificating about their abhorrence of the 2nd amendment...
            The only " equality " under the law is equal opportunity, not equal outcomes...Harrison Bergeron notwithstanding...

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               Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               ..so shoot me

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               Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Antonin Scalia is a liberal?  Someone oughta tell him.  You should also read and try to understand the 2nd before commenting on it.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      As of the original post...nothing at all.  We've turned it into potpourri like on Jeopardy.

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   Jim Hunterposted 12 years ago

   And sticking your finger in the hole wont stop the bullet from coming out.
   
   Just some advice for the liberal with a handgun.

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Advice for the conservative..
      "try putting it in your ear with when you pull the trigger.. both you and the bullet will emerge unharmed"
      
      lol

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         Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Violent liberals.

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            Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            see.. i'm actually ok with that lol

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   Alastar Packerposted 12 years ago

   No serious discussion here maven101. The only conservative Greek girl with a gun I've known, had no need of it when sexually frustrating men.

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      gunS

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         Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Went over me head Greek One, still love ya!

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    lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

    It's this:
    
    "Currently, several states have laws that require abortion providers to offer women the opportunity to view an ultrasound image of their baby before getting an abortion, according to the Guttmacher Institute. And two years ago, Republicans introduced a bill in Congress that would require abortion providers to perform an ultrasound and allow a woman to see the image before getting the procedure. Although the bill hasn’t gotten very far, it is a step in the right direction to finding a solution to the abortion issue."
    
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opi … -procedure
    
    The article makes is seem like a good, decent idea, but I don't know.....it's already an anguishing experience as it is.
    And why don't potential gun-owners have to see something like that? See what really happens when you shoot a person? Because I know there are repercussions for that too. Just ask a soldier.
    Seems to me that we treat one group of individuals much different than the other....and they both are dealing with the same issues, IMO.

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       Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Abortion isn't a good comparison to Gun Ownership. Just saying.

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          lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Why not?

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             Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             One is a right of only half of the people and the other is a right of all people.

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                lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                There would BE no people if not for women!

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                   Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   So, and your point? Which I am sure will have nothing to do with the topic of this forum thread(which you started), but go ahead.

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       Aya Katzposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       How about we don't force people to watch videos period. And that includes driver's ed.

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          lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Well, you'll have to speak with the Republicans in charge on that....but don't be surprised if your words fall on deaf ears.
          On this issue, women have no rights.

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             BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Oh, I'm sorry, was abortion just outlawed?

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                lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                They're working on it.
                If a Repub appoints the next SC justice...it's a done deal.

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    lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

    Simple!
    Metaphorically speaking: I brought you into this world, and you can take me out.
    Both responsibilities should be treated equally!

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       Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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