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   weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years ago

   all liberals are fascists
   
   All democrats are nazis
   
   Obama is a nazi
   
   Kerry is a Nazi
   
   Gore is a nazi
   
   Harry Reid is a tyrant
   
   Pelosi is a communist
   
   There, that's a complete rebuke of every Doug Hughes posting. 
   
   It even covers everything that
   
   Seriously, you liberals, if you have nothing to do other than make up big fat lies about the TEA Party, just because you're so filled with hate and prejudice... Why don't you just go shoot yourself, so you dont' have to live in such a repressive world?

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      vellosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What good do these kind of posts do?

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         weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I dunno.   Did you ask the guys who post
         
         "The tea party is racist
         The tea party is fascist
         the tea party is evil
         the tea party is... (Insert assorted other name calling here)
         
         nobody questions all that, so why anyone questioninign this?

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            TheBlondieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Go back, read what you wrote, and think about what kind of person that makes you. Judging people you don't even know? That is just as bad as being a nazi or a racist, which apparently you think everyone is.

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               weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Can you read?   If so, can you comprehend that someone would write with a purpose?   If not, why are you here, if so, why are you missing the point?

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            Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            How about the rank and file Tea Partiers are not well informed and are being manipulated by the likes of Dick Armey, David Koch, et al, for their own greedy purposes.

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      Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Another smoke blowing post.
      
      You need to get out more.

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      Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Bragging about how much your brain is in turmoil and that your obsessive ego can't let go of these issues and move on living a rational descent life is quite revealing about you.
      
      I advise some counseling so that you can find a little grounding. Spouting off and insulting rational, calm friendly people indicates the problems you certainly must be troubled with.
      
      Good luck with all that.

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         weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There's nothing calm or rational about a whole bunch of posters here.    Just read the political forum and see the whole anti-TEA Party explosion of postings.   All are lies, all are incitements against other people.   
         
         And if anyone turns the tables on them, they get all righteous and indignant.   In other words, complete and utter dishonesty.

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            Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Being calm and rational in the face of anything is a choice. You lose all your power when ranting and raving. Suddenly your opponent knows you're focused on that, not anything else, and they make the next move, calculated and powerful.
            
            The more grounded you are in correct information and facts, the more calm you are in understanding they can't be threatened, the more your opponent should worry.
            
            I recommend you calm down and evaluate your belief system to make sure it's secure. The evidence is you're being threatened. If what you believe really is truth, then why should you feel threatened with truth?

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               weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               What makes you think I'm anything but calm?   Where's your denuciations of the anti-TEA Party slurs posted ad nauseum here? 
               
               It's the TEA Party this week, next it'll be Trump, maybe, the week after that it'll be back to Palin, then it'll be the Koch brothers, then someone else and someone else.   The pattern goes on for ever... All just personal attacks and attempts to generate hatred in the public at large.   
               
               DTR0005 went on some rant about the TEA Party being fascist.   Where's your post telling him to 'calm down' and 'get counseling'?   
               
               None.   You didn't even think it was wrong, probably.    Yet, here you are, in response to blatantly obvious satire, having a fit.   Again, you are not responding with principle, with judgement, or anything else.   You'er just using your politics to choose whom to condemn and whom to applaud, in matters of dishonesty.

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                  John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  More than likely things will revert to slagging off Obama and liberals.

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                     weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     You mean, truth will start to get posted again?

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                        John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Well it didn't the last time so there is no reason to suspect that things will be any different this time round.

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                           weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           What didn't what?     Stop hiding behind imprecision.

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                              John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              In answer to your question
                              
                              "You mean, truth will start to get posted again?"

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                  DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Why don't you tell me how core fascist beliefs from the 1920's and 30's differ from those of the Tea Party? I mean as we or rather I am clearly off-my-nut over the comparison, instead of just categorically denying it, why not refute my claim with facts Facts like the following: The Tea Party isn't anti-immigrant, The Tea Party doesn't believe the country has been usurped by socialists or communists, the Tea Party doesn't believe that public money should be funneled into the private sector, The Tea Party isn't looking for a degree of economic isolationism, the Tea Party isn't anti-union, The Tea Party isn't about literal interpretations of documents - elevating them to the level of Scripture, The Tea Party isn't about borderline extreme nationalism, etc. Show us examples, specific examples where these "ideals" aren't part of the Tea Party mantra. I get TP literature almost daily via email; these seem like a pretty fair match for what they put out as propoganda.
                  Then when you do that, take a hard look at the history of fascism. Then after doing that, tell me there aren't some very significant similarities between the two idealogies.
                  You fancy yourself as scholar and you are clearly articulate and well-read. Connect the dots.

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                     Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Some of the Tea Party's roots are in the John Birch Society.

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                     Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Borderline? That's generous!
                     
                     But borderline does apply. Some of our more "ardent" TP defenders are quite possibly borderline personalities.
                     
                     Excerpted from DSM IV
                     Borderline Personality Disorder:
                     
                     Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder may display affective instability that is due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety... Personality Disorder is often disrupted by periods of anger, panic, or despair and is rarely relieved by periods of well-being or satisfaction. These episodes may reflect the individual’s extreme reactivity troubled by chronic feelings of emptiness.
                     Easily bored, they may constantly seek something to do. Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder frequently express inappropriate, intense anger or have difficulty controlling their anger.
                     They may display extreme sarcasm, enduring bitterness, or verbal outbursts.

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That's bull. YOU are the one who can't take it.
            Or are you new to these forums and have missed the thousand and one anti-Obama/anti-Dem/anti-Liberal posts???
            
            I'm sure you can find AT LEAST 5 just today!
            
            LOL

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               John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               In fact, last week or the week before the forums were packed out with anti Obama posts. It was all Lady Love ever posted, often as many as 10 or 12 threads in a day.

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                  weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  So, your defense of dishonesty and a campaign of hatred, is that Lady Love posts links to articles and is critical of Obama and your political allies?

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                     John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     No, I an not defending dishonesty which is why I am not defending Lady Love or any other fabricators.

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                        weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        But you're wholesale dishonest.    So, stop whining, and can the hypocrisy.    BTW, what has lady love fabricated?   I rarely, if ever, read her posts, and what I did read looked like a comment on an article, generally.   
                        
                        You haven't complained when the liberals do that, so what IS your complaint?

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               weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               What am I supposed to "take"?   What's the action I'm supposed to just ignore, so you can  go about unhindered by response, in your campaign of hate?

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                  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  No, you see, you have it backwards.
                  The response has been to your party's outrageous slander on Obama and anyone who supports him.
                  
                  And it began 6 months before he took office. Quite the media frenzy.

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   AEvansposted 13 years ago

   It appears you are very upset. My husband isn't a Nazi and he is Democrat. I am a Republican but that does not make our home divided it makes a great debate and in the end I swing vote anyway,so that makes me a person that a few could dislike. Everyone is entitled to their opinions so don't let things bother you so much, just breathe. If you don't like what someone has to say just walk away.
   
   By the way we are not racist or any of the above you mentioned.

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      And the TEA Party is not fascists, etc.   But, read any posting from about a dozen people on the forums, and every post just a tidal wave of hate and insults directed at good people.   
      
      So, we'll see how they like their own logic shoved in their face.

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         AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Do two rights make a wrong? Do two wrongs make a right? Shouldn't you be the better person? Don't let it get to you. I know you are much better then that. Hang in there and I would recommend staying away from those threads for awhile. It will all cool down. You are the better person. Hate breeds hate and that is not what you wish to do, read what you posted. You are now spewing hate and prejudice to, is that what you truly wish to do?

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            weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            So, in your mind, the "better person" decides that they must not ever defend themselves, or point out the hypocrisy of others, etc, etc.    Unless they're democrats, of course, who get a free pass on being hateful, etc, etc.   
            
            I'm sure you have NO posts rebuking all these people for their lies and hatred, right?    So, it appears your sermonizing and moralistic preaching is really just expedient politics.

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               Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Well done.
               You have now personally insulted the nicest woman on Hub Pages.
               For no reason except that she tried to spread some love to you.
               Expedient politics?
               Did you even read her post?
               She's a Republican.
               

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               AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Whatever you feel is necessary to say to me is fine. I am glad you feel better by venting. If something offends you flag it. I have better things to do with my time besides arguing over politics. As corrupt as our government is neither party is any good anymore. Donald Duck would be better at running the White House and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs could make better decisions then anyone that is in there right now.
               
               By the way I am Republican.

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                  weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh, yeah, right.   So, you take time out of your busy "don't argue politics" day to go to the politics forum, and in the middle of endless refrains of "tea party is evil" "republicans are evil" "conservatives are evil incarnate" etc, etc, etc, you pick out one obvious sarcastic thread using hyperbole to rebuke me?   
                  
                  The chances are nil. 
                  
                  So...   Apparently, now we have one of the 1/4 of the GOP who is in tune with the democrats on the endless lies and smears against the TEA Party and conservatives.   Besides, I've never see Democrats say anyone was a "nice" person unless they, too, hated conservatives.

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                  Len Cannonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  DONALD DUCK IS A SOCIALIST

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                     weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Could you point to anything he's ever said on the matters of politics?

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                        Len Cannonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Donald Duck constantly wants his Uncle Scrooge's money. In fact, Donald, unable to turn the state to his side, moved his nephews to the care of his zillionare uncle. DONALD DUCK IS DESTROYING AMERICA
                        
                        even though he is in the navy and supports america

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                           weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Donald want's Scrooge McDuck's money?   I never know that those two ever appeared in a cartoon together.   But, that wouldn't make him a socialist... It just makes him greedy.    A socialist is also greedy, it just thinks the government should do it for him.

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         TomC35posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You sir are probably no fascist or racist.  Unfortunately that does not mean you are not mistakenly supporting a group, whose majority are really just out for the good of the rich white folks.

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   Paragliderposted 13 years ago

   In sheer quality terms, that must be about the worst opening post I've ever seen. It betrays a total lack of sensitivity and judgment.

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      tonymac04posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Indeed! And it strains my commitment to freedom of speach!

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         Jed Fisherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Insensitive judgemental racism is how the Great Pyramids got built. Be ever vigililent; wanna-be Pharos lurk in every shadow, waiting to enslave us all. Again. To build great monuments to them. Vote the bums out.

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            HattieMattieMaeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            hmm well be a social worker, I am a democrat due to half our human services our based on grants and donations. So I don't think that would call me a racist so read my hubs dude! Than call me a racist! Thank you!

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         weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, you hypocrite of the worst degree...   
         
         You have no problem with the "TEA Party is fascist" bunch, but you lose your lunch over obvious hyperbole?   
         
         Not a chance.  You only object because it's Democrats who get targeted.

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            Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Again it's clear you don't know who you're insulting.

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               weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Does it matter?    The behavior is obvious.    "Your actions speak so loud, I can't hear the label y ou're trying to assign to yourself".

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   HattieMattieMaeposted 13 years ago

   This is why I was always taught don't discuss religion and politics! You probably get killed!

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   dingdondingdonposted 13 years ago

   It's hard to take someone seriously when they rant and rave at someone who was only polite and civil to them, as AEvans was to you just up the page.
   
   Do you not realize this kind of behaviour is why the Tea Party have a bad reputation?

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      AEvans applied no judgement whatsoever.   And deserved the rebuke for hypocrisy.

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         AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I am not judgemental, therefore nothing shall be applied. I am happy to have you rant on me, at least you appear more calm today then last night and at times a little more rational.

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   rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

   Has the world gone mad..?
   
   Sometimes I wonder how old posters are to post something so obviously infantile as this OP.

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You see no problem with it, when it's democrats attacking the TEA Party.   Why are you complaining about obvious satire?

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   Here's one of maybe 300. Not kidding.
   
   "You socialists and yes you are a socialist also. you like to twist everything to fit your mindset. Please show me one example where socialism works in a decent size country!
   Tell me why it is right to take other peoples money?
   tell me how much is enough for you to take from people who risked their money and succeeded and worked so hard for? Also would you have given their money back if they failed to succeed?
   Why do you have a computer? you know if you didn't buy one you could have given that money to feed some people! the computer is a luxury why don't you practice what you preach? If you want more go earn it! take some chances to be successful, put in a lot of time and energy. The opportunity is there for everyone! If you want it bad enough, eventually you will succeed. Can you compare the poor here with other countries? do they have cell phones, air condition etc..."
   
   On and on and on, everyday.
   Obama is a socialist, Obam hates America, Obama is ANTI-AMERICAN for chris't sakes!!!
   Not born here, not Christian, hates white people.
   
   Truth-out, take your bat and ball and go home if you can't play.
   
   And take a look in the mirror, why don't you.
   
   Most of what I say you call lying nonsense.
   Why do you or your Tea-Party deserve any respect back?
   
   Give me a break.

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You had your break for a long time.   Now I'm calling out every one of your lies and hate filled nonsense.

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         lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         HA!
         
         AS IF you are judge and jury on the truth!

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            weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I AM truth.   Judge and jury do not decide truth, they decide who had the better argument.   They have the power to assign GUILT, not truth. 
            
            Truth is what it is, and truth is the only thing I care about.

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               lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Why did Dick Cheney tell NORAD to stand down on the morning of 9/11?
               Care to tell the truth on that one?

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   Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

   How does making a bunch of completely unsupported claims "prove" that another bunch of completely unsupported claims are false?
   
   ... oh well... 'tis the idiocy of partisan politics.

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Did I say anywhere that this proves anything?    I just descended momentarily to the language that Doug Hughes, Ralph Deeds, Lovemychris, DTR(whatever), Mighty Mom, and the rest post as an unending refrain... and you launch at me?   Where has your criticism of them doing exactly what I did above been posted?   Oh, wait, you just gave them a pass, and in fact, indulged in the same mindless idiocy about the TEA Party people.    Hypocrisy and dishonesty, thy name is also Evan G Rogers.

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         Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I want you to know that I'm honored that you put me at the top of the list. You forgot Ron entirely, and he's likely to feel slighted. So say something nasty about him to brighten his day.

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            Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            And what about John Holden? One of the staunchest defenders of reason in American politics. And he's not even American!!

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         DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I said that racism LIKELY PLAYED A SMALL PART in the Tea Party's hatred of Obama. I never made the broad-sweeping statement that ALL Tea Partiers were racist. I did, however, say that extreme hard Tea Party ideaology is fascist in nature - and I stick by that statement.

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   Just now, this is on another thread:
   
   "That post was geared towards LMC as we were going back and forth. And her views are definitely of a socialist."
   
   So--it's ok to say that, but not say that the TP'ers are fascists?
   
   How about these: Jew-Hating anti-semite?  OK to say?
   
   You want respect.....GIVE IT!

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You've never given it.   Hypocrite!   
      
      And, you are a socialist, so, what exactly is your complaint?

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         canadawest99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You're a freak, now go crawl into bed with Limbaugh.  We all know he's paying you to troll.

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            weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Obama is paying you to troll?    Please.   We know the DNC actually does pay people to troll forums.    But, sadly, the GOP is nowhere near that devious.    Rush Limbaugh paying people to troll forums?   
            
            Did you want an award for the most absurd idea of the day or ???    Surely you can't be so stupid as to actually think this.   After all, you're smart enough to use a computer, which means you're smart enough to not think such dumb things.   
            
            So, why did you post that nonsense?

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    thebrucebeatposted 13 years ago

    Weholdthesetruths,
    If your goal here has been to raise the respect level from your readership toward the Tea Party, you have a very curious strategy.
    I'm fairly new on here and don't know the reputation of the posters you mentioned, but the way you treated the lady, AE I think, who was just trying to kindly share her way of coping with some of the idiocy she encounters was not only unjustified but frankly embarrassing.
    If I just landed in this country and was trying to decide who I should align myself with, you would be making a uniquely horrendous case for your side.

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       weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Nice bit of nonsense there.    I sincerely doubt you've somehow managed to read only this, and ignore the page after page of flaming hatred, and then, suddenly believe that a post so absurdly written it defies any description is serious...     
       
       Of course, if anyone's so foolish as to insist on not knowing the context of things going on, who cares what they think of me?   Certainly not me.

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          lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You sound vaguely familiar....

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    Moderndayslaveposted 13 years ago

    He seems angry and bitter

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       John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       No, he is angry and bitter.

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    Len Cannonposted 13 years ago

    to be fair Donald Duck has had a really hard life.

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    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

    No one ever called Sarah Palin anti-American, or said Pawlenty hates America.
    Or who in their right mind would say Obama hates white people...his mother and grandparents are white!!
    
    Your crowd goes to dirt level.
    Below dirt...underground.

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    Maembeposted 13 years ago

    How do all the crazies end up here.  Its like Lady Love set the Republican Nutter Beacon alight or something.

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Evan G Rogers is absolutely NOT a hypocrite. He has never, to my knowledge, ever posted anything that was not 100% consistent with his libertarian views.
    
    As for the rest of us, I think weholdthesetruths actually has a point. We could all be more precise in our language.
    
    So let me make my position on Tea Partiers perfectly clear. In a non-hate-filled way (because I do not HATE the vast majority of them).
    The rank and file TP member is misguided at best, unbelievably stupid at worst. They do not grasp that they are being manipulated like puppets by the masterminds. They do not seem to understand the concept of voting against their own best interests.
    
    The head honchos behind the TP movement, on the other hand, deserve every vile name we can hurl at them. But in the spirit of trying to say something nice (cuz Mom always said if you can't say ANYTHNG nice... don't say anythng), I will give them credit for being master manipulators. But then, given the obscene amount of money they have to throw at this... they should be effective, shouldn't they???
    
    Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachmann -- merely pawns (albeit voluntary pawns).

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    Doug Hughesposted 13 years ago

    One of the wingnut posters (Sn53anon) posted this gem on his first day.
    
    "The very self-serving idea of admiring those who compromise was top notch humor. One does not compromise with a party intent on the destruction of the country as a capitalist nation. One fights. One fights at every opportunity. One fights with all of the tools one has. Wherever the enemy is we take the fight to him. We do not compromise. We win. We defeat the enemy. We destroy the enemy.
    
    Only a fool or a knave admires compromise with an enemy such as this nation has running the Senate and the Executive branch."
    
    I don't want anyone today think that wetwistthestruths is alone in his anger. It's systematic and it's hateful. My posts in opposition to the Tea Party are not angry
    rants. I spotlight how the movement lost favor with the voters in only 3 months. I cite where ultra-conservative governors are vetoing legislation. I expect to report that some teabaggers will be recalled in Wisconsin. I show where legislation that the Tea Party has passed is hostile to women and to Seniors.  And ooooh so generous to fat cats. And I do make every effort to show that the pimps of the Tea Party are the VERY RICH. Figure out for yourself what role the teabaggers have.

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