it is crucial that hispanics not vote in florida primary

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  1. mio cid profile image59
    mio cidposted 12 years ago

    It is crucial that hispanics not vote in florida primary,so as to show the republican establishment who are already worried about it ,that with the current position on immigration the hispanic vote will go 90 percent democrat.

    1. Hurry and Habit profile image56
      Hurry and Habitposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well I'm hispanic, though I consider myself an American and I voted last  Monday for a Republican.  I came into USA 50 years ago with my visa entry through Mexico. The problem people are having is the way they came into the country and I think you know what I mean!

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this


    2. Deni Edwards profile image77
      Deni Edwardsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      From what I understand, this is the first republican primary, meaning that only registered republicans will be allowed to vote--no democrats, decline to state, independent, etc.  So, anybody who is a registered republican will be voting, regardless of race.  It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with party.

      1. Hurry and Habit profile image56
        Hurry and Habitposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        You are absolutely righ! In Florida, only those registered GOP are able to vote in a primary eleccion. By the way there are many "hispanics"  US citenzes and a great majory are Republican. And do you know the reason? 1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion which was aborted because a "DEMOCRATIC" president didn't send the support that was promise and consequently the invasion failed. Reason why I don't vote for any democratic candidate running for office. One more thing the majority of these liberals want to see US going down  the drain as Nation!

        1. mio cid profile image59
          mio cidposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          i'm sorry but i must correct you most hispanic registered voters are registered democrats and in national election hispanics voted about 55 % democrat and 45% republican in the bush years because he did not attack the hispanic community like in the present time the reps are attacking it and in the 2008 election it was about 65% for democrats and 35 for reps.believe me in 2012 the reps won't get more than 25% of the hispanic if you are talking strictly about florida then you are correct because the majority of hispanic voters in the state of florida are of cuban descent and they are in an overwhelming majority republican voters, but that is not the case nationally.

          1. Hurry and Habit profile image56
            Hurry and Habitposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you mio cid and I agree with you, I was think about Florida! I have that tendency!. One more comment: In my opinion: It's a pity that the hispanic community have that tendency, voting for the democrats and no taking into consideration that must of us are here running away from lefty tendency goverments and probably no knowing that our Democartic party is full of the so called 'Liberals'. Liberals, they called themselves because they know any other terms like for instance, socialists, will scare many people.

    3. rebekahELLE profile image84
      rebekahELLEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am not Hispanic, but I do live in Florida. To encourage a group of people not to vote is senseless. If they're registered voters, they have every right to vote for the candidate of their choice.. although character is sorely lacking in the GOP candidates.

      I'm not sure voting for one candidate because he 'says' nicer things about a group of people means anything - it's politics.

      We all know how they get elected anyway, whoever has the most money.

  2. mio cid profile image59
    mio cidposted 12 years ago

    Talk to your neighbors,friends, and familyand explain to them it's imperative they not vote in the republican florida primary, and if they must at least vote for gingrich who at least has a little consideration towards us.

    1. LewSethics profile image61
      LewSethicsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And tell the black and yellow people too.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Why do the damn whites always get left out of the equation. Sufferin' succotash.,

    2. lovemychris profile image76
      lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You know something I recently read about him?(Gingrich)
      Back during the apartheid period in S Africa, Reagan and the Iron Lady were staunchly refusing to do anything about it, until "one member of the United States gvt took a stand against apartheid" and it started the ball rolling on ending it.
      That member was Newt Gingrich!

      Of course, now he says Palestinians are an invented people, so he's back to being full of it. But he, at least can be human at times.
      Those other R's are all empty suits, pretending to be real people wink

      And Romney's father was born in Mexico...good thing he wasn't president when his dad wanted in!

  3. wilderness profile image95
    wildernessposted 12 years ago

    Are you worried about Americans of hispanic heritage or about the hordes of illegal aliens that have invaded our country and ignore our laws?

    Foreign nationalities that are not American citizens cannot vote (legally); there is no real need to exhort them to stay out of the polls.

    All Americans have the right (and duty) to participate in elections; to try and convince them not to do so is just wrong.

    I doubt that any politician worth his(her) salt is racist enough to side with anyone because of their race, and if they are they surely won't let it be known.  To declare that Gingrich "sides with us" ("us" meaning the hispanic race) is not only rather silly but, if the inference is true, would be a major reason NOT to vote for him (or any other admitted racist).

    1. mio cid profile image59
      mio cidposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hispanics is not a race ,You apparently are so ignorant that whenever you hear hispanic you immediatelly bring up mexico,you must be one of these people that think north and east of the mason dixon is puerto rican south and west is mexican, when I say us I  mean us the hispanics and the immigrants.the two groups of people being targeted by the right wing nut, xenophobe,bigoted and racist crowd.

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Well, apparently one of us is ignorant.

        From the Mirriam-webstar dictionary:

        Definition of HISPANIC
        : of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal
        : of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin

        "A person of Latin American descent".  Not necessarily Mexican - you are the one introducing that nationality, not I.  I merely indicated a "Hispanic heritage", not a Mexican one.

        And from their medical dictionary:

        Definition of RACE
        a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b : breed
        : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits

        Are you implying that Hispanics do not share certain distinctive physical traits?  Just as orientals, blacks or caucasians do?

        You say you mean Hispanics (people of Latin American descent) and immigrants.  The first would indicate people whose ancestors are from Latin America (not just Mexico) and second denotes those people that have chosen to become citizens of the US (not merely those squatters that have taken up residence without actually immigrating).

        Neither group is being targeted by "right wing nuts, xenophobes, bigots or racists" to any significant degree.  The illegal aliens inhabiting our country in violation of US law are being targeted by those paying to support them and want our laws to apply to everyone and not just caucasians, orientals, blacks or any other race except Hispanic.

        1. mio cid profile image59
          mio cidposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          hispanics is not a race,it's a cultural identity has nothing to do with race there are hispanics of every different race .you brought up mexico when you said if you go into mexico etc...

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I see.  So we have black and oriental Hispanics with black and oriental features and physical characteristics instead of those normally associated with the Hispanic race.  People that have absolutely no connection to Latin America.

            I suppose that Mexican citizens that don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo (that minor battle that few remember except the Hispanics in the US) aren't Hispanic because they are not part of that culture?

            When the available check boxes are white, black, asian and hispanic do you check the one for "cultural bias" or "race"?  Or do you choose two of them to indicate a white hispanic?

            It must be nice to make your own definitions of words instead of checking a dictionary.  Particularly when you can proclaim that others that haven't heard or understand your personal definition are then ignorant. 

            Yes, I mentioned Mexico - in direct response to someone else that had also mentioned the country and the possibility of living there.

            1. Josak profile image60
              Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Coming from a half Hispanic fmily (Argentine) Ican tell you that no Hispanics don't just live in Mexico Puerto Rico and Cuba that they are all through North Central and SOuth America and that they are indeed a race, being born of spanish ancestry often times mixed with the native Inca or Aztec.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                A voice of reason speaks from out of the blue - thank you!

                Who would have thought - a race of people including some not from Mexico that call themselves "Hispanic".   Just don't tell the OP - he defines the term to mean people of a certain undefined culture such as those celebrating Cinco de Mayo.  Or maybe those bringing drugs across the Rio Grande - I'm not sure.

                1. Josak profile image60
                  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  HAHA something like that tongue Furthermore I really don't care what the republicans think about illegals it wont change anything.

                  1. mio cid profile image59
                    mio cidposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    sure it will change something, democrats had little over fifty percent of hispanic vote in the bush years went up to 64 percent in last election and will probably be about 75 percent in 2012, this is huge.

            2. Hurry and Habit profile image56
              Hurry and Habitposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Very well gentlemen! There is one thing I haven't see [posted around here. The fact is that if you vote it is simply because your are a US citizen and if you have gone through this process , you are no suppose nothing else but a US citizen, or like people call us "Americans".  That's why when soemone ask me:" Where are you from?" I answer:" I used to be from Cuba,  now I'm from United States of North America!"

  4. Shanna11 profile image76
    Shanna11posted 12 years ago

    I want to cross the border into Mexico without proper documentation, pop out a couple baby's and demand healthcare, education and the protection of Mexico's laws! Why can't I do that?

    Ahem, all political joking aside, I do support immigration to the US. Preferably the legal kind.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, Shanna, you can't do that because Mexico will demand that you follow their laws when visiting or occupying their country.  Should you violate those laws you will be jailed and deported.

      Only the US, as far as I know, encourages foreign citizens to violate our laws and requirements by offering jobs and free food, education, medical care and even housing all on someone else's dime.  Strangely enough, other countries insist that their laws be followed.

      If I'm reading the OP correctly, he is encourage all hispanics to support Gingrich because, he says, Gingrich will continue to refuse to enforce US laws concerning illegal alien squatters.  Apparently all legally voting Americans of Hispanic descent are also contemptuous of the laws and do not wish to enforce them (at least on other Hispanics).

    2. couturepopcafe profile image60
      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Shanna - don't laugh. The reason you can't do that is because Mexico has laws which, believe it or not, are strictly enforced. You cannot own land worth more than a certain amount or in certain areas. You must enter the country with a minimum of money set by the law. Those are just two but there is an long list of entry requirements to Mexico. They don't worry about minorities or political correctness.

  5. kateperez profile image58
    kateperezposted 12 years ago

    Where do you get your statistics?  (coming from a Perez).

    1. Quilligrapher profile image75
      Quilligrapherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Is your question intend for me?

      1. kateperez profile image58
        kateperezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Who wrote this hub?  Who says Hispanics are innately going to vote Democrat?  Who wrote that they want illegal immigrants to be rewarded for breaking American law?

  6. mio cid profile image59
    mio cidposted 12 years ago

    who is the question for?

  7. LoriSoard profile image65
    LoriSoardposted 12 years ago

    I doubt those statistics, although I'm sure there are some who believe that way, but my belief is that if they are registered Republican they should vote. There are several different candidates there, so they should do what I'm going to do and choose the one that most closely matches their beliefs. Not voting just takes away their voice, in my opinion. I know several immigrants who came here legally who want border patrol as well. However, I do not live in Florida, so perhaps immigrants down there feel differently.

  8. Druid Dude profile image61
    Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

    Not all hispanics are illegal aliens...Some are citizens. Many were born here. Peurto Rico is hispanic. St. Auggie was built by Spain...Oldest city in the U.S. Have a nice day!smile

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
      Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You could say most are not:)

      1. Druid Dude profile image61
        Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Let me get this wrapped around my consciousness. We have technology that can pick a wanted terrorist out of a crowd, retinal checks and local banks won't cash some checks without a fingerprint...and we really can't tell if someone has a legal right to elect public officials? Who is kidding whom?

      2. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Although there is no way to know for sure, I would suspect your are right.  Estimates, for what little they are worth, are that there are 10 million illegal aliens (all races) in the country, and I would be very surprised if there are not at least 10 million Hispanic Americans.  That is, Hispanics that are American citizens, whether born here or not.

        1. mio cid profile image59
          mio cidposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          the hispanic population in the us has reached 50 million, almost 17 percent of the population,the largest minority in the country and whereas in the past many  hispanics used to not become citizens, because of the animosity we feel  towards us in the last decade we are becoming citizens as soon as we are eligible,that means we are voting in record numbers election after election,the republican party will cease to be a viable party if both the african american vote and the hispanic vote are 90 percent democrat.


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