Would You Attend a Same Sex Wedding?

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  1. glendoncaba profile image75
    glendoncabaposted 14 years ago

    Guys I must be living in a cocoon.  I'm actually shocked at the overwhelming pro-gay response. 

    I'm either very wrong and very evil for believing the traditional Christian concept of marriage, or very right and need to campaign for the survival of the human family.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      it's not "pro-gay".

      it's "pro-human".

      doesn't every person have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? or does that just apply to straight people?

    2. Uninvited Writer profile image77
      Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Then we are equal because recently I was shocked by the anti-gay comments on this site that I hadn't heard since the 70s.

      The human family is doing fine, everyone is not going to become gay all of a sudden.

      1. livelonger profile image92
        livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I think it's amusing (and sad) that the religious zealots think that everyone will stop reproducing and/or families will be any more dysfunctional than they already are, if gays are allowed to marry.

        So far, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, etc seem to be doing just fine, and a lot better than the high-divorce Bible Belt, for example.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Please!

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's just the way it is here, you're right.

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    ralwusposted 14 years ago

    Well, the church created the marriage you are speaking of. God instituted a man and his wife as being one. What about love, do the same sex marriage couples lack that? Do they lack romance? Does not one member have a right to take care of the affairs of the other when he/she is on his death bed instead of someone else taking that right from them? I may be a believer, but I also know right from wrong and have compassion. I shall not be their judge, I shall not pick up a stone.

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      abiscardiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree ralwus.  I second that...I shall not pick up a stone.

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    Scott.Lifeposted 14 years ago

    Well, since this is obviously a fishing expedition to condemn one way or the other in the name of God, I will just have to say...Hell yes I'd go do you have any idea how many straight single women would be at that wedding. They are not inviting their friends to approve of their homosexuality, weddings are events to share joy and happiness with the people you care about, honestly how many times do people attend the marriages of straight people and hugely disapprove of the couple, but they go any way, because its not about you and your selfish self absorbed  world, but about the two people being joined. And to head this off, let me first be clear, yes I have Gay friends, and I do not agree with their life style choice and it has nothing to do with the Bible or God. I like women, everything about them, what they do, and what they mean to me, so I don't want to be with a man and I am not aroused by them. Strangely enough I really don't give much thought to it or to what gay couples do. I think about women and being with women and meeting women, that's what straight men do.

    My friends know how I feel, and I do not hide it behind an excuse called religion. It's how I FEEL, likewise there is much about my life they do not like and/or approve of and for good reason I am sure but in the end it is my life and they recognize that and support me in friendship as a human being should. Yes I have gone to a civil union a when the time comes my two gay friends damn well better be a my wedding. How does anyone have the time to live a truly happy fulfilled life full of joy and satisfaction if it is spent constantly worrying about the actions of others personal lives and judging them for it. Homosexuality is not a crime or a threat to society. The day it becomes that I suspect we will have much more important and pressing issues do deal with and worry about. STOP LOOKING for someone to blame.

    1. Friendlyword profile image61
      Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      GOD BLESS YOU MY BROTHER.

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        Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Whoever and whatever is running the show has blessed me very much and continues to do so daily. As long as I'm here I will try to show my thanks for this gift called life by doing something with it. This is a big world and filled with a wondrous variety, it should stay that way.

    2. glendoncaba profile image75
      glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for your ideas.  But nobody is blaming anyone.  We all have values based on our ethical philosophies.  Your points would come across more respectful if you state them in the abstract without accusing anyone of blame. 

      I was actually motivated to write the hub because of the pastor in the story.  See.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    No. Gay's don't want marraige they just want to play house.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sneacko I know you are a traditionally minded guy and that's cool in fact I have no problem that you stand up for what you believe in and you want to ensure your children grow up in a safe and secure world. I've talked to you before, at you, and even been ignored a few times, but all in the name of fun.

      However I have to ask though you often make statements proclaiming what gays, among many other groups you disagree with think and believe, and my only real question in this case is, if you're not Gay yourself then how do you have any clue what they are thinking, wanting, and feeling about this issue at all? I know many Gay men and women, and yet I can not even begin to imagine their lives or what they deal with or think about living among people that don't just dislike them but hate them even though they have never done a thing to them. All I know is what I am told and that is just the tip of who they are.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I have no problem with gay people and I don't hate anyone. I would help them just as fast as I would anyone. I don't believe in marraige, civil unions ok. Everything else I say on the subject is a load of bull.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          It is an interesting occurrence and exercise of psychology that if as a writer you make a general statement to a group of people, some will take it personally, some will be offended, some will disagree, some will read on until something interesting pops up. If I make a statement about some Gay people being hated and you automatically deny hating them when I wasn't saying you said that at all but was expressing my inability to imagine their lives, what does that say about you?

          Actually I know you don't hate anyone Sneako, half the time I think you're just playing around, I know I do. My point is though a lot of these threads being started on here, are excuses and covers for some very real and very serious deep seated bigotry and hatred for marginalized groups. The amount of disguised racism and discrimination I read on these forums truly boggles my mind. It is 2009, almost 2010, yet large sections of our national society are still looking for reasons/labels to condemn, alienate, and belittle anyone who doesn't fit their narrow view of "The Good American." A shrink would have a field day with the mountains of denial, deflection, and double talk that goes on here every night, and most modern forward thinking people would be appalled by it. This is what we have become as a community, look around right now at all the threads on this column preaching some kind of message of separation, discrimination and superiority, using one belief or another to justify it.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Scott I respect your insight and patience. I really am just messing around. If some one goes off on me then I toy with them.

  5. TN21 profile image59
    TN21posted 14 years ago

    I've been to a gay Halloween party before (unknowingly), so why not a gay wedding? :p

    1. EYEAM4ANARCHY profile image62
      EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I bet it was the best party you've ever (unknowingly) been to.

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    cosetteposted 14 years ago

    Jeez, gay people aren't hatchet murderers...

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No absolutely not! But don't tell anyone I said that, ok?

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    Scott.Lifeposted 14 years ago

    I know you are Sneako, and basically you're a good guy getting sucked into some very not good agendas on here. For every person you think you're playing with, trust me someone is using you to make their message heard. I was just commenting on how all of us are getting involved in these malicious and very offensive threads on both sides. We're better then this people, all of us our. It's almost Christmas, and should it matter that it's religiously accurate? It's the time of year we can all have an excuse to actually treat people like we should the other 11 months of the year. yet here we are (Me Too!!) Debating the moral implications of attending a Gay marriage, or the second coming, evolution, science, faith, damnation, judgment and sin. You know whats going to change after we debate all this and some get banned others give up, and the lucky few get mad and smash their computer...nothing changes that's what. Anyone who says these forums aren't about entertainment has mental issues.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hear!Hear!

    2. glendoncaba profile image75
      glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Now you are taking yourself too serious.  enjoy the ride.  if we are all writers here we will vent our feelings, passions and pet peeves.

      You make the mistake of assuming that as the OP I hate people etc.  I dont have it in me to hate a fly.  I simply take an position based on my values and experience.  if you find it outdated find a fair way to disagree but dont come here talking about blame and hate.

      If anything my main sin here is to promote my hub.  Guilty of that.  But I want to test the pulse of approval or dissent too.  And I am blown over with shock.  Wow, we are not in Kansas anymore as far as marriage ethics are concerned.

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        Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Very interesting that once again someone talks about not hating people, when I never said they did or inferred it. The remark i made about hate was not being able to fathom how hard it is for Gay people to live in a world where they are hated by complete strangers. But if the guilty conscience fits who am I to argue?

        1. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          As the OP I felt duty bound to respond. 

          Hate and disapproval are miles apart.  I disapprove of fast driving, I don't hate race car drivers. See how simple the thing is once we remove the emotions.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image58
            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            How about if we remove the holier-than-thou condescension?

            Think you could manage that? wink

            1. glendoncaba profile image75
              glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              The only time i ever went to a car race i was going to see a business prospect race. I never made the sale but I made a friend. I suppose the analogy is not too far.  But I'm too steeped in OT to accommodate homosexuality as a norm.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image58
                Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I will take that as a "no". wink

                1. glendoncaba profile image75
                  glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  de ja vu with 5 more inches of tough hide. smile

                  Perception is reality sad

                  And with homosexuality as the new puritanism (read that somewhere) any one slightly heretic could face a witch hunt.

      2. Mark Knowles profile image58
        Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Well - you have once again convinced me that your ridiculous beliefs are worthless BS and put trying to make a few bucks from yet another fight above being supportive of your friends. Great Amazon capsule placement by the way. wink

        And this is supposed to convince me that you would die for me?

        When you will not even go to your gay friends wedding? lol

        1. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          At writing 67% are in favour.  Still a strong majority but not as strong as forum.  Wow!

          I support my friends by sharing what I believe is best for them.  My friends would not invite me to a same sex wedding, not because I hate them, but because they respect me.  Then again I must be living in a cocoon but I dont have any friend who would invite me to a same sex wedding.  This is jamaica.  Our dance hall DJ's are being treated like carrie prejean because they sing lyrics based on their (I guess mostly rastafari) spiritual values.

          Are you saying I just another paparazzi now big_smile

          That amazon thing!  Man!  I keep trying smile

          And eBay has turned down my application so I'm kinda just working with what is available.

  8. Carl "Fitness" profile image60
    Carl "Fitness"posted 14 years ago

    Of course I would attend.  If I was invited, then the couple getting married are presumably my friends.  Why wouldn't I attend the wedding of a friend?!

    For those of you who are against same sex marriage, don't worry about it.  I doubt you have any gay friends, so it's quite unlikely you'll get invited to a same sex wedding.  Problem solved.

    I don't mean that in an antagonistic way, and I certainly don't want to debate whether or not there should be same sex marriage.  It just seems likely to be true and therefore a practical and convenient answer to the question.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "SHARK!!!!"

      1. Carl "Fitness" profile image60
        Carl "Fitness"posted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I didn't intend to throw chum in the water.  Perhaps I'm too naive.  I just updated my post a bit to reflect what I meant (and hopefully be less controversial).

  9. Michael Willis profile image68
    Michael Willisposted 14 years ago

    Yes I would if I knew the people involved. ??????????????
    Why would I not?

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    cosetteposted 14 years ago

    Mikey....smile

    1. Michael Willis profile image68
      Michael Willisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hello "My fair Lady!" how are you?

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        cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        howdy. i'm fine, thank you, how are you?

        1. Michael Willis profile image68
          Michael Willisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Doing good here. Good to see you.

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    cosetteposted 14 years ago

    you too. 'nite.

    1. Michael Willis profile image68
      Michael Willisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Nite...I am fixing to get out of here also.

  12. Michael Willis profile image68
    Michael Willisposted 14 years ago

    paraphrase...The Bible also talks of many who will claim Lord, Lord and Not enter in!
    Calling oneself a Christian is not a ticket to Heaven!

  13. stardiamond28 profile image59
    stardiamond28posted 14 years ago

    I would be there of course.I cannot wait untill that day comes and i think it will be here soon

  14. pylos26 profile image72
    pylos26posted 14 years ago

    So...why not share that with us?...Lita

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    rialeeposted 14 years ago

    Yeah of course I would attend a same sex wedding...if only to support the couple in their endeavour to be able to love and live their life as they see fit.
    I am pagan so do not attend any church, but civil rights is nother matter. Their union is their business.
    cheers

  16. dingdong profile image59
    dingdongposted 14 years ago

    I will, if I get such an invitation.

  17. Google Gal profile image59
    Google Galposted 14 years ago

    To each his own , it takes all kinds to make the world go round,  I think if more people could stop  judging and start living the world would be a whole lot better place to eat, breath , sleep and party smile

  18. torimari profile image68
    torimariposted 14 years ago

    Hell yes I'd attend. I'm not big into marriage, but straight or gay, if they are people I'd care about I'd go.

    I am for same-sex marriage, but even if I wasn't, if my best friend who was gay were to be wed I'd want to be there. I can't imagine how it would pain them if I wasn't because I didn't approve of their marriage. They are finding happiness and love which I think does no harm.

    I'd rather keep my friend than disobey my principles or beliefs.

  19. Mark Knowles profile image58
    Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

    You completely missed the point.

    Sorry you are scared of homosexuals. Hope you make a few bucks from that. Good luck.

    1. glendoncaba profile image75
      glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL.  A few bucks from being scared big_smile

      But you are probably nearest the truth, what i feel is closer to fear than hate.  Fear of a new sodom and gomorrah.

      Seriously, I found it strange that the pastor went, but the poll response and forum discussion have really opened my eyes.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image58
        Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Maybe you do not realize the hatred you are spreading by starting threads like this? Oh - that is right - you are not emotional or judging or anything. wink

        Pity you are so out of touch with the rest of humanity. I am glad I would not need to count on you as a friend. What if god said you were not to help me because I am a sinner? sad

        There was something in the bible about greater love hath no man that he go to a gay wedding. Something about unconditional as well. I forget. None of the religionists follow it so why should anyone else?

        1. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          The guilt tripping reminds me of religionists wink

          Hate speech is definitely something else. 

          Homosexuality definitely new puritanism as Carrie Prejean discovered.

          I have personally suffered for not condoning homosexuality.  That is hate. 

          Lift the debate by talking about gay gene etc but accusing me of hate speech here, no.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image58
            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            There is no lifting  it from the level you placed it at. Glad you can see what you sound like.

            Sorry you do not feel the need to love unconditionally. Guess that makes you a hypocrite - which was the point I was making. Good you started yet another fight though. Well done.

            1. glendoncaba profile image75
              glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Of course I'm a hypocrite...just like every one else on the planet.  You mean you have graduated from the class left the rest of us.  Must be dizzy up there. smile 

              Tell the apostle Peter hello for me, the one who said he would never betray Jesus.  Not the later Peter after Pentecost.

              Fight?  Some people will fight over the letters of the alphabet.
              Here is my fight.  The fight to help others. (Wanted to paste a picture of me helping with a community building project, just as well I need to figure that out since pasting it would certainly make me a hypocrite).

              This is getting boring.  Same old same old.  Will check the poll and post results.

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            Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Carrie Prejean (as long as we are judging here) is guilty of quite a bit more, I'd say, against Christianity than homosexuals may be.  Have you purchased or seen one of her recent videos?  I understand there is quite a selection out there.  And I'm curious--how does fundamentalist Christianity feel about the abomination of breast implants?

  20. ANTI-CRUSADER profile image57
    ANTI-CRUSADERposted 14 years ago

    No, not at all, these type of filthy activites must be discouraged and it's one of the good ways .. BOYCOTT THEM COMPLETELY.

    1. Ms.Lavae profile image60
      Ms.Lavaeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What are you talking about?

  21. earnestshub profile image74
    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Weddings are filthy?

    1. Mark Knowles profile image58
      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      2 women having sex with each other is filthy. According to usmanali/video lost/crusader.

      I thought he got banned?

      1. earnestshub profile image74
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Religionists can re appear! A part of their mysterious beliefs I guess. lol

  22. janni321 profile image57
    janni321posted 14 years ago

    these type of questions mostly asked by people who have some problems with same sex people and their relationship

  23. Stimp profile image60
    Stimpposted 14 years ago

    I had a gay couple (probably more than one) attend my wedding....what's the difference.  And, I'm guessing, knowing my gay friends, it would a very high class event.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry to bust your bubble, but there's nothing high-class about sodomy or other perversions.

      1. livelonger profile image92
        livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I'm thoroughly amused by what the Christianists must imagine what goes on in a gay wedding! lol

      2. ANTI-CRUSADER profile image57
        ANTI-CRUSADERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Yeh, it's opposite to the inner nature of mankind. It spreads disease and evil.

      3. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Oh... I didn't realize there would be sodomy AT the wedding -- this might change my mind smile

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          Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yep right there in the aisle in front of everyone and they make you watch, didn't you know, that's all they do. sad

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I'll have to tell my gay friends -- they're definitely missing out!

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              Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Great now everyone will know....guess the secret is out.

  24. butterflyz profile image61
    butterflyzposted 14 years ago

    Sure why not, who cares! Especially if they are a friend, you should be there for them. We are in the 21st century...it's not old news.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

      Well better than half I bet are holding hands, kissing and have lisping contests. Am I right?

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        cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        straight people don't do that stuff too?




        gosh, SRS, that's mean, even for you.

    2. Dixie W profile image59
      Dixie Wposted 14 years ago

      I think that this is all about personal choice and whether you are actually close to a person or simply aquaintances. I am not gay but have no problem with people that are unless they impose it on others. Any kind of overt public displays of affection should consider the circumstances and situation you find yourself in. (Gay or straight)
      I have at least one gay friend I can think of right off the top of my head who's wedding I would probably attend if invited.
      So I guess my answer is "YES"
      Dixie W

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      Creepposted 14 years ago

      In reply to the original question. My answer is yes. My sister's.

      I totally support her and her partner and I will always be there if they need me in the future.

      So ner. tongue

    4. Madison22 profile image61
      Madison22posted 14 years ago

      Sure man, love is love man...live and let live is what I say...free love, and no I I'm not a hippie. LOL. Feeling silly this evening, it's good to relax.

    5. waynet profile image68
      waynetposted 14 years ago

      No because I'd rather do my own type of sex at a wedding, there's no point in doing the same sex as everyone else!!

      1. glendoncaba profile image75
        glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        smile

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

      Probably not, too many weird people.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 14 years ago

      silly hetero impaired people when will they learn? Gay don't go round here, savy?

    8. janiek13 profile image77
      janiek13posted 14 years ago

      I would most certainly attend a same sex wedding. Why should straight people be the only ones able to celebrate their love publicly? After all, they are doing such a bang-up job. You could look at it another way, why should straight people be the only ones to suffer; let all gay people marry!!

      1. Bovine Currency profile image61
        Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Best nugget of wisdom yet on this thread.

        1. janiek13 profile image77
          janiek13posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you, I think it is absurd how much time people spend on what is wrong with "other people" when they can better use the time to improve themselves. It's the only change they can affect, anyway.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well I think they're wrong, wrong, wrong. I think I'm right so I'll go take a nap while you get it together.

      2. glendoncaba profile image75
        glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        lol.  Thanks for a good joke.

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      lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago

      If I can participate lol

    10. Bibowen profile image88
      Bibowenposted 14 years ago

      A "same-sex wedding" is an oxymoron (with an emphasis on "moron").

    11. mistywild profile image60
      mistywildposted 14 years ago

      yes, if they were allowed in Texas. And yes, I am happily married.... to a man.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        But would you travel to one wink

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        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        No you wouldn't you'd never find the place.

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        Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I'm with you. I would definitely go to a same-sex marriage. smile Sadly they aren't allowed anymore in stupid Cali.

        1. tksensei profile image59
          tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Do you consider the majority of voters in your state "stupid"?

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            Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Actually yea I do closed minded stupid ppl

            1. tksensei profile image59
              tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Wow. That's a lot of people to dislike so much.

      4. mistywild profile image60
        mistywildposted 14 years ago

        I;m not going to get into it, but it is shameful gays do not have the same rights as us. No marriage, no financial support, no sharing of properties, no long term rights, healthcare, benificary, and such. and yes, I know have a few gay friends who have the right to be married, that is my view.

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          sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Civil union.

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Does civil union carry all the exact same rights as marriage?

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              sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Absolutely, the problem is we have an agenda to get past.

              1. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
                AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                What is it (I'm from a different culture, don't forget smile )

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Gays and liberals want to hold court over the churches. They want marraige to be the issue so they can sue the churches using the aclu. This would either bring them in line with the gay-lib agenda or face hugh lawsuits. Not to mention, gaylib want to rub the Christian Conservatives noses in it. They'll go to far with the churches and the people who go there, then there'll be trouble.

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                    Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    You have got to be kidding!  Conspiracy theory much?  Check under the bed for them sodomites?

                    Oh, never mind.  I guess they have the most cattle producing methane in TX, after all. wink

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                      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      That's it! Put'm up Lita! You.....you......you girl!

                    2. mistywild profile image60
                      mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      hol up, why you attacking Texas??

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                        Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Cuz he said something about Omaha having a lot of cows with gas, sad.

                        (my bf is from TX, btw, accent and all, lol.)

          2. mistywild profile image60
            mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            is a joke.

        2. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I think any church, mosque, synagogue, temple, and so on should have the right to refuse to marry anyone they don't want to.

          But the state is a secular institution - it has to treat all citizens as equals; for me the bigger issue is that commonlaw relationships might not be recognized, even after many years... whether gay or straight, especially in terms of wills, and visitation rights

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Civil union.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image67
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Does civil union carry all the exact same rights as marriage?

      5. glendoncaba profile image75
        glendoncabaposted 14 years ago

        Please run over to the hub and vote. 

        The hub is called "Would You Attend a Same Sex Wedding?"

        I could manually count the forum response but so much easier to see results.

        Still at 67% pro same sex wedding.

        1. mistywild profile image60
          mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I vote, it was 64 yes.

          1. glendoncaba profile image75
            glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for voting.

            Just checked again

            67% for
            33% no

            probably changing with each vote but hanging around within that range.

      6. profile image0
        Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

        look for all those people aimlessly debating about this.  all i will tell you is this.  society will eventually allow gays to marry in the next 20 to 50 years from now.  assuming we're even alive that long. 

        the reason is simply because society isn't ready to for gays to be married.  Hence, why its not allowed right now.  however, its really kind of pointless as this law will be amended in the future anyway.  the reason, you have so many idiots against it right now is because its still a fairly new concept that scares people.  and like sir ian mckellan, in "x-men", put it, "people fear most what they don't understand."  you have to remember it wasn't until the 1960's that people barely even started to accept inter racial dating between a man and woman.  let alone two guys or girls dating.  however, as society has learned to embrace this concept, its not as taboo as it once was. 

        now you see integrated schools and integrated marriages too as it become more common.  same thing with gay marriage. sure its unpopular now because its new, but people will learn to embrace it soon.

        having said that, the quick answer would be NO for me to attend a gay wedding.  Unless, I was related to either of the guys or girls getting hitched.  If we were just friends, then I'd make up some excuse and mail them a wedding present.  i know that makes me sound like a hypocrite, but hear me out please. you see, my point of view is this.  Im a very shy guy in real life.  especially around girls that i like.  therefore, some people automatically assume im either gay or a closet homo even though I do nothing to suggest it.  all i usually do is mind my own business.  i don't bother anyone, and i've been straight my whole life.  i do have a lot of gay friends, but they all understand my one rule.  which is if i have to respect their right to be gay, then they have to respect my right to be straight.  however, there are some gay guys that don't understand this rule when i'm forced to tell them this.

        so they constantly hit on me anyway, when i tell them a milliion times that im straight.  in a way it kind of makes me sad that not even girls give me this kind of attention, but rather ugly ass guys.  thats why i wouldn't go.  i'd be too scared that they would try to rape me or something since i have a hard enough time convincing people im straight.

        1. mistywild profile image60
          mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I believe this sneak person is attacking me.... what do you think steven?

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            Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            nah, i think sneak just likes you thats all.  lol.

            1. mistywild profile image60
              mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              funny way of showing it.

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                Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                lol.  why do you say that?  lol

                1. mistywild profile image60
                  mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  another thread

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                    Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    well, i can't comment then, because i don't know which thread your talking about.  sorry.

                    1. mistywild profile image60
                      mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      he told me I lived in Montrose with the other gay people, even though I said I was married... to a man.

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                        Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        wow, im sorry to hear that.  are you okay?  i used to think he was a nice guy, but now i think he's a bit of a creep.

        2. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Very interesting.  Write a hub on this.  Very readable.  And unique. 

          I empathise.  I have been hit on a couple of times but managed to throw the bible or my own avoidance at them.  On one occasion I had to literally escape from a car in Miami.  Scary.  Ran right into a (straight) wedding.

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            Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            hmmm..you think a alot of people would read something about  like that?

            1. mistywild profile image60
              mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              if you made it funny.

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                Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  lol.  i'll definitely consider it.  the only thing is, since all my fans are used to seeing me write about film reviews, i don't know how they're going to react to a short story about my life that's so controversially funny.  lol

          2. mistywild profile image60
            mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            so you think christians should oppose gay marriage?

            1. glendoncaba profile image75
              glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              My most profound apology to the liberal sentiments on this thread and forum in general, but I believe in the bible.  make me an atheist and I'll believe anything.  I'll even become a polygamist.  I would enjoy that smile

              1. mistywild profile image60
                mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                very nice way to side step the question but I asked a direct question... will you please answer that question?

                1. glendoncaba profile image75
                  glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  A bible believing christian is by definition opposed to same sex marriage. 

                  Why is this defined as hate?

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                    Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    Because the bible was written by man and twisted to man's belief not God's!

                    1. glendoncaba profile image75
                      glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      does not answer my question?

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                        Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        It does...you believe a book that has been passed down for generations the stories all changing to suite the man who wrote it. God definitely didn't have a hand in the remake of the book.

                      2. mistywild profile image60
                        mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        no because I am not CW and I asked "who are you to judge?" did God leave it up to you?

                  2. mistywild profile image60
                    mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    it's not, but who left you in charge to judge other people? Certainly not God, He is the one who judges. And by the way, read the Bible again my friend, 12 guys traveling alone???? And yes, I am a christian.

                  3. livelonger profile image92
                    livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    No one cares if your church forbids marriage equality. The issue is generally civil marriage, or marriage under the law. That Christians fight against this too suggests bigotry.

                    Besides, plenty of the other things you've written make it obvious you hate gay people, not just your opposition to marriage equality.

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                      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      I gotta ask livelonger...your profile pic...what does that symbol mean? Does it mean livelonger? or something else? I am curious big_smile

                      1. livelonger profile image92
                        livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        It means "mist." smile

                    2. glendoncaba profile image75
                      glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      It is so politically correct to use the word hate to condemn christians. Where do we draw the line between:

                      hate speech which demeans another person or group and express the speaker's hatred and prujudice,

                      and free speech.

                      I'm trying to find my text on Media law but nowhere near.

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            Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Wow glen you are so not funny

            1. glendoncaba profile image75
              glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              I was so scared that night.  took a ride from a stranger while waiting for bus near North Miami SDA church.  I figured since i was coming from church I was safe.  Had to jump out at a railway crossing and run.

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                Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                wow, sorry to hear that happened to you.  if it makes you feel better, at least you didn't have to work with a guy that hit on you every single freaking day.  even though you told him you were straight, they would still give you a lot of cheap talk about soul mates and stuff like that.  it makes me sick thinking about it.  sorry if i offend anyone here.

                1. mistywild profile image60
                  mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  you must take pride in your apperance.

                  1. profile image0
                    Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    what makes you say that?  are you talking to me or glen?

                2. glendoncaba profile image75
                  glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  sorry to hear that.  I have an idea how it feels.  But you do have legal and regulatory recourse.

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                    Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    i tried, but the problem was i was working for dillards at the time, and they have the worst management staff in the world.  since i was struggling so badly in sales, they didn't lift a finger to do anything about it.  you see there, if your doing great at selling the entire store kisses your arse.  if your struggling like i was, then your just lucky to have a job at that point.  which is what led me up to get laid off a few months back.  lol

      7. earnestshub profile image74
        earnestshubposted 14 years ago

        Homophobiia. Straight from the book of fear! lol

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          Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          AMEN EARNEST!

        2. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Earnest maybe it's the time difference but you usually sign in 5 minute before I head to bed.

      8. earnestshub profile image74
        earnestshubposted 14 years ago

        Any wonder you were scared!

        "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

        Homophobic crap!

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          Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I definitely agree with that one. Man written not God written in my opinion

        2. mistywild profile image60
          mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          OLD TESTAMENT.

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        Leta Sposted 14 years ago

        What I'm thinking is that it does amount to fear of their own gay tendencies then....from that description.

        My one friend who was a college room mate turned out to be gay.  I didn't freak.  And another girl kinda hit on me once.  She took a subtle hint.  I never had to run away scared--it wasn't that scary.

      10. profile image0
        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

        I'm not a creep!

        1. mistywild profile image60
          mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          no you're not, my apologies.

          1. profile image0
            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I'm just messing with you.smile I haven't talked to you before I always like a live one!

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              Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              I see how it is. I get the boot huh? You...you...you creep! lol

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                Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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              Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

              hey sorry for saying your a creep sneak.  i was just siding with my friend thats all.

              1. mistywild profile image60
                mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                thanks Steven, again my apologies.

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                sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I tease so I know you don't know my intention, please don't take me seriously.smile

                1. mistywild profile image60
                  mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  but now I know your intention lol lol

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                  Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  thats cool.  hey how about we bury the hatchet with a round of beers.  lol

            3. mistywild profile image60
              mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              well, then we should have a blast lol

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                sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Cool!

      11. mistywild profile image60
        mistywildposted 14 years ago

        glen, why are you avoiding my question, I thought it was a pretty simple question.

      12. mistywild profile image60
        mistywildposted 14 years ago

        my question remains.

      13. profile image0
        Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

        aaaa Sneak is ignoring me now sad

      14. mistywild profile image60
        mistywildposted 14 years ago

        glen- please answer my question.

        1. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry for the extended delay.  By now you know about the ban. 
          I had an early trial.  The judge gave me early release for cooperation. 

          Thanks for your encouraging email Misty.

          Now where were we.

          Was trying to assert my right to free speech so long as it was not hate speech.

          1. mistywild profile image60
            mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I never involve myself in hate speech. as long as I do not fell threatened, I do not think we would get in that type of discussion.

            1. glendoncaba profile image75
              glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              another forum member was accusing me of hate.

              1. mistywild profile image60
                mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I accuse you of nothing, we are simply talking, if you upset me I will leave. If not I would like to invite you to be my friend.

                1. glendoncaba profile image75
                  glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Wasn't you. 

                  But like we discovered thats not why I got banned.

                  off to bed for me now.

      15. profile image0
        Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

        wow, tensions are rising here.

      16. profile image0
        Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

        oh well forget it Misty he doesn't know the answer...let's move on

      17. mistywild profile image60
        mistywildposted 14 years ago

        and yet the question remains. interesting.

        1. glendoncaba profile image75
          glendoncabaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Two short answers to 2 questions:

          As a conservative Christian I am opposed to same sex marriage.

          I don't consider myself hateful or judgmental, just following the Judeo-Christian ethical tradition which has preserved the family and democracy.  Making a taboo into a norm will challenge centuries of Christian theology, not just christian but all major religions.

          1. mistywild profile image60
            mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            religion was created by man. not God, it is not ours to hate or judge.

            1. mistywild profile image60
              mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Catholic, Methodist, Leutheran, Baptist, Protestant, etc.

      18. glendoncaba profile image75
        glendoncabaposted 14 years ago

        I am not trying to pull an Al Sharpton here but I quickly changed my avatar to a plant just in case ...

        I believe that when we take race and gender out of the picture we can have more openness even when we talk about homosexuality.

        1. mistywild profile image60
          mistywildposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          unfortunately that is true, although I enjoyed your other pic, society is still retarted when it comes to those things, such a racisim.... and being gay.

       
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