First of all, religion has nothing to do with this question. It is about giving approval to some unnatural act. It all boils down to sex. Marriage is quite unnecessary for having sex.
The very definition of marriage is to raise a family, comprising of your biological chidren. Adoption is only a choice or an exception. So, do not bring it into this.
I am all for any one's choice of having sex with anybody/anything or even with open air so long as they don't do it IN the open air! But marriage? Whatever for? What do you need social approval for, anyway? Just live together and/or have sex and be done with it.
Poor Elton John, one of the best ever singers to have walked the Earth.
Okay, since you're reposting, so will I.
It's not social approval so much as legal rights!
In many states gay and lesbian couples are not allowed to share health insurance plans. If one partner becomes seriously ill and his or her family disapproves of the relationship, they can often prevent the other partner from having any say in treatment or end of life decisions, and in some cases even prevent him or her from visiting, even if the relationship has lasted for decades.
These are just a few examples. There are over 1,100 federal laws alone in which marital status is a factor in determining benefits, rights, privileges, and responsibilities.
Let's have the same conversation with the same ten people with the same arguments in the fifth thread this week. I'm sure we'll work this one out THIS time.
Haha, yeah, I know. I just plugging away, hoping to get through to someone, someday. I am probably too optimistic, but hey, Jesus said Do Unto Others As You Would Have Others Do Unto You and not all of the Christians around here choose to ignore the words of their messiah in favor of those of a lawyer who never met Him, and indeed spent much of his early life trying to eradicate His teachings from the planet. Reading some of the words of Jesus's so-called followers, I wonder if Paul hasn't actually succeeded in his original goal, 2000 years after the fact.
*totally not religion-free at all reply*
What a new and interesting can of worms you have not opened
How's about we remember that each and everyone of us are individuals and therefore should all be afforded the same rights etc etc.
Thank the stars I chose to be heterosexual. And there was I, contemplating a life of homosexuality way back when.
Boy ... I sure made the right choice!
*religion free reply*
Never knew frogs had a choice in their sexual preferences.
We do, we do. You also have the right. Did you not know? I read it on the forum several times. Sexuality is a choice. So I surmise that because I'm heterosexual, I made the right one
Does that put you in the line of fire for any "heterophobes"? Or does such a thing exist.
Hey, there's a new word I just coined! (or is it taken already)
I'm off to Google it>
lol you could have struck gold there aka-dj
I'm only worried that change will sweep in and I'll end up being on the wrong side of the fence
Still, not to worry. I'll just become a homosexual
Crikey. This homosexual business is completed. Is there an in between state of affairs?
And ain't that a cool trick Kerry? Sexual transformation and no doctor in sight. Frogs are lucky little beasties
Bisexuality is big among mammals. I'm sure we can make room for some amphibians too.
You could try mutating yourself into an amoeba, I suppose...
Some species of frogs can switch back and forth between sexes, no less!
There's a similar post that looks like this sigh...
Its freewill Buddy but you have to face the consequences of course and that needs explanations no more...
Marriage has to do with sex, yes. But not the whole part of it. Marriage is a vow to share your life and all that accompanies it with someone else. And yes, This can be done with just a civil union. But Why is it that Hetero's can get married and Homosexuals have to live with something less?
Yeah, right. Because marrying someone you have no attraction to just for the financial and legal benefits is going to lead to SUCH a happy, stable marriage.
Can you honestly tell us that if the situation were reversed and you were forced to marry someone of the same sex you would be satisfied with a life of celibacy and/or awful sex and wouldn't be seeking out female companionship (with or without the permission of your "spouse") every chance you got?
They aren't necessary because I believe a civil union will do the job nicely.To alter marriage to fit is offensive to me and my beliefs. Should they have the same rights as a partner would? Absolutely.
Okay, that I can conditionally agree with you about.
In order to avoid a "separate but equal" situation, my preferred solution would be to get rid of marriage as a legal status entirely and have all consenting adult couples get a civil union, with equal benefits regardless of orientation. This would be easy to implement.
Then leave "marriage" entirely to the churches. That way if some churches want to "marry" gay couples (and some do), they will be allowed to do so, and if some don't, they won't be forced to do so.
Don't be ridiculous. The percentage of gays and lesbians in the population has remained remarkably consistent in every society and every historical period where we have data to study. Homosexuals are only about 10% of the population, so they'll hardly make a dent in the human race's ability to breed even if every single gay couple chooses never to have children (which is increasingly less likely thanks to technology such as in vitro fertilization, growing acceptance of gay adoption, etc.)
Are any marriages really necessary?
Well what difference is it to same sex or mixed gender marriage?
What about monogamous marriage as opposed to polygamy?
No marriage = no divorce. OMG the christians just arrived with a cross...see ya.
cheers
You missed the point once again. Homosexuality is not something you learn or develop or decide to be!
Please read something folks!
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