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I hesitate when I hear of see someone quote the Bible as their argument. I thought Jesus denied that


If I lord the scripture over you, is that not exactly as the pharisees, scribes and Sadducee did, which resulted in the crucifixion? If I love you without the scripture telling me to, is that not more pure?

 

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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    I just don't know what your point is. Read this 3 times.


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Great to bring the greatest Thumper into this. And if you know rabbits you know it can get obnoxious. Your message is powerful in it's positive approach.


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Interesting. You make a lot of sense. The Socratic method works for varied results. I give pause and wonder if the Bible only speaks to the discerned as you describe.


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    Gunny Cracker (Sgt Prepper) 21 months ago

    So a cop who cheats on his wife shouldn't be allowed to arrest murderers? Where will you spend eternity? In Heaven with the virgin-born, Son of God, Jesus the Christ OR in hell with the Kenyan-born son of a pornstar Obama the Antichrist?


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    There is some beauty with age. I know that most of it is hesitation and clay feet. But some is in the beauty of watching forms of nothing take shape into something. We get to see flowers bloom from the bud on. We are not just awestruck by the rose.


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Well put Diane. We need to keep it "faith age" appropriate. Love will handle that if we allow it.


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    Norine Williams 22 months ago

    Tim: I Cor 3:6 "I have planted, Apol'pos watered, BUT GOD gave the increase."

    Great advice: "Suggestion: Stop...Pause...Ponder (Acts 17:11)!

    "Beliefs are 'not' stagnant; . . they change.." (II Cor 3:18) "But we all...chg fm glory to glory.."


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    Norine Williams 21 months ago

    Eric: "Out of context" or "Out of Religion's interpretation?"

    Satan is laughing!

    Who can argue=Christ died, Promised HS to Help, Sent, Told us to OBSERVE apostles, & told us if we didn't we would be "Accursed!"

    Does Scripture not say this?


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    Norine Williams 22 months ago

    Law: We have "freedom of choice" (Josh 24:15), but GOD KNEW how we'd choose fm beginning (predestined)! Making WORD "inoffensive" is against WORD! Heb 4:12 says IT (WORD) "cuts" which feels very offensive! HS is always "in context!" Remainder: Above


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    Norine Williams 21 months ago

    JL: Human 'love' is not forgiving, holds grudges,etc. Rm 8:7-8; II Tim 3:5;

    Human 'love' is not Agape "love" but Phileo 'love' which is not GOD'S Spiritual "love!"

    If 1 "loves"GOD,he keeps His commands & "teaches all nations" (Matt 28:19) w/WOR


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    Rich Kelley 21 months ago

    The understanding of that gospel truth differs depending on how God's "products" perceive the scripture. Those that believe and read their bibles don't question what they read, but what others "imply" into what is written.


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Interesting answer. For some reason atheists quoting the Bible does not seem wrong to me. There is faith and there is knowledge of the Bible. One does not require the other. Certainly there are degrees of understanding and one should recognize it.


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 22 months ago

    Paul that speaks to my heart. Very cool indeed. Thank you much.


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    Norine Williams 22 months ago

    King: Amen! I didn't understand "If I lord scripture over U" either! "Lording Scripture" over 1 is what Scripture says we should do (II Tim 3:16) & why he's so "far" fm WORD!


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    Norine Williams 22 months ago

    Rich: Were we not commanded to "OBSERVE apostles" (Matt 28:20)? MOST believe everything but, saying, "If Jesus didn't say it, not so!"

    Acts 2 when 1st CHURCH estab, AFTER His ascension, is where "observation" should began! Do we? If not, Gal 1:6-9!


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    Lawrence Hebb (lawrence01) 22 months ago

    Norine

    You actually just demonstrated the point! Do you read Hebrew and Greek fluently? If you don't then how do you know your 'revelation' is in line what the Holy Spirit has previously said?

    Because clearly your last comment is happening!!


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Excellent point Shadrack2. Please note that He did not quote it every time He spoke. And out of the possibly 70 or so times it is referenced it is alluded to and not cited. He may have quoted it about 20+ times. (rough only)


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    I think we have room to love. I know it is busy as a beaver out there. I don't always have time for law. But I always have time for love. Call me an old fool but I think that works all things right.


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    Kiss andTales 21 months ago

    To continue , she was arrogant, haughty, till one day the principal kept calling her class, three times from the intercom.She was out as usual until he just made a special trip to her class no teacher the whole hour.

    Jesus knows everything .


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Very fascinating. I am sure you have exact scripture to back up your prophesy.


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    Kiss andTales 21 months ago

    Just to share , example I had a bad example of a high school teacher, she would not teach , but leave students to read assignments, leave the class room and return before the bell would ring. What did we learn from her ?she gave students F's.

    And--


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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 21 months ago

    Very interesting answer. You have very clear stated views. It is good to hear other people's opinions so thank you for sharing yours. Judging what is in another's heart is very bold.


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    Kiss andTales 21 months ago

    Diane I love that last expression of " until they know how much you care"

    Is really what this is all about, Jesus said words , but the words were backed up by facing his death to purchase us a future.

    look how much he cared,

    Now it is our turn !


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