Christianity VS. Other Religions Can You Take The Challenge????

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AEvansposted 15 years ago
I have been popping in and out of the Christian forums and I have decided we need to discuss other topics or religions. Why does it always have to be about Christianity? Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it is enough. What about Wiccan? Does anyone know anything about that religion? Satanism? Should that not be discussed? Voodoism? Buddhism? I understand many get a kick out of fighting over Christianity, but why should so many of us have to defend what we believe and what many mock, when there are many other religions to choose from? Is it because nobody has any insight about these other religions? I know there are a handful that are intelligent and can take this challenge, I will not name them, but admire them and respect them as theyprovide great insight. If anyone is brave enough to take this challenge on so be it, without discussing Christianity, can it be done? I hope we shall see!
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  SiddSinghposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  There you are! This is the reason why only Christianity seems to be discussed.: Just Kidding!!
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What are you trying to say...
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  countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I think what he was trying to say and it could be a typo since you said "I have been popping in and out of the Christian forums..."(obviously that's what you will find unless you meant to say Religion instead of Christian)
  
  Btw Paraglider started a wonderful thread a while ago about understanding positive aspects of all religions here is that thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/12180
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  TheSandmanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  hello, I know a little
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  johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Go ahead
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Buddhism comes from Buddha born to the king of the Shakya tribe.A famous sage announced that Siddharta Gautama(Buddha ) would become a either a great king or great holy man according to his birth marks.
  He left his kingdom at an early age of 29 in order to find out the meaning of life.
  He studied and practiced under various masters different yogas like hatha yoga, yet did not find enlightenment. He understood that there is no need to make the body unnecessarily week by eating very little.
  This is when he decided to follow the middle path .He sat under a Pipal tree in Bodh Gaya India and vowed that he would not arise until he gained enlightenment which he did attain.
  He then spent the rest of his life spreading the god knowledge he had gained.
  He taught "that suffering is an inherent part of existence; that the origin of suffering is ignorance and the main symptoms of that ignorance are attachment and craving; that attachment and craving can be ceased"
  
  Now he is expected to return ,like all religions expect their prophet to return so do the Buddhist.The Dalai Lama is supposedly gaurding the universe and waiting for him to take over ,his name will be Maetriya and he will be the laughing Buddha who comes and restores this planet.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Another fairy story. More proof that mankind has not grown to get past deifying entities that do not exist.The human condition has not changed at all. Not in thousands of years of social structure. We still hate and kill in the name of a god.
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  mohamedhmmposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Buddhists not really from God like Christianity or Islam, it's a way of life for a good man; and instead they learn from him and just follow him, people after him worshiped him as God; but, they did same the Christians did with the lord Jesus and equal him to God...
  and that's the reason God sent the last message after all of these to Guide us to his way..
  Also; not all religion expect their prophet to return; because Muslims believe that lord Jesus will come back and he will break the cross and clear the confusion of Christianity and he will lead Muslims nation and have his kingdom in this land as leader and prophet from God....
  So, Muslims nor waiting for their prophet Muhammad but the prophet Jesus...
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johnb0127posted 15 years ago
Well your right. Christianity isn't a relgion, its a relationship! You know that right? You are a Christian?
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JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago
Jainism is one of the oldest religions in the world. Lord Mahavira, the 24th Teerthankara (prophet?) liberated 600 years before Christ.

Ahimsa (Non-violence), Aparigraha (Non-possession) and Anekanta (looking matters from different angles) are main doctrines.

The main sub-divisions are Shwetambara and Digambara.

Mainstream Jains live in India and they are spread all over the world.

Jains are vegetarians.

There are hundreds thousands of beautiful Jain temples in India and overseas. many of them are best examples of art and architecture.

Thanks,
Jyoti Kothari
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  johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hmmm interesting
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Jyoti, Please explain more.....
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I see this topic is a complicated one!!!!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The Jains have santhara ,
  Quitting life consciously to merge with the param atma.
  
  Santhara-A tradition where a treminally ill person or an old person who believes he has done what he came here for voluntarily fast unto death believing they will merge with the param atma or Holy Spirit or God.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  From Wikipedia: Jainism (pronounced /ˈdʒaɪnɪzəm/) is one of the oldest religions that originated in India. Jains believe that every soul is divine and has the potential to achieve God-consciousness. Any soul which has conquered its own inner enemies and achieved the state of supreme being is called jina (Conqueror or Victor). Jainism is the path to achieve this state. Jainism is often referred to as Jain Dharma (जैन धर्म) or Shraman Dharma or the religion of Nirgantha or religion of "Vratyas" by ancient texts.
  
  Jainism was revived by a lineage of 24 enlightened ascetics called tirthankaras[1] culminating with Parsva (9th century BCE) and Mahavira (6th century BCE).[2][3][4][5][6] In the modern world, it is a small but influential religious minority with as many as 10 million followers in India,[7] and successful growing immigrant communities in North America, Western Europe, the Far East, Australia and elsewhere.[8]
  
  Jains have sustained the ancient Shraman (श्रमण) or ascetic religion and have significantly influenced other religious, ethical, political and economic spheres in India.
  
  Jains have an ancient tradition of scholarship and have the highest degree of literacy in India.[9] Jain libraries are India's oldest.[10]
  ainism differs from other religions in its concept of God. Jainism regards every living soul as potentially divine. When the soul sheds its karmic bonds completely, it attains God-consciousness. It prescribes a path of non-violence to progress the soul to this ultimate goal.
  
  A Jain is a follower of Jinas ("conquerors").[11][12] Jinas are spiritually advanced human beings who rediscover the dharma, become fully liberated and teach the spiritual path to benefit all living beings. Practicing Jains follow the teachings of 24 special jinas who are known as Tirthankaras "('ford-makers", or "those who have discovered and shown the way to salvation"). Tradition states that the 24th, and most recent, Tirthankar is Shri Mahavir, lived from 599 to 527 BCE. The 23rd Tirthankar, Shri Parsva, lived from 872 to 772 BC.[13][14]
  
  Jainism encourages spiritual development through reliance on and cultivation of one's own personal wisdom and self-control (व्रत, vrata).[15] The goal of Jainism is to realize the soul's true nature. "Samyak darshan gyan charitrani moksha margah", meaning "true/right perception, knowledge and conduct" ( known as the triple gems of Jainism) provides the path for attaining liberation (moksha) from samsara (the universal cycle of birth and death). Moksha is attained by liberation from all karma. Those who have attained moksha are called siddha (liberated souls), and those who are attached to the world through their karma are called samsarin (mundane souls). Every soul has to follow the path, as described by the Jinas (and revived by Tirthankaras), to attain the ultimate liberation.
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knolyourselfposted 15 years ago
"What about Wiccan?"
And whatnot. They don't stick 'round long.
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh Knoly.....lololololol
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AEvansposted 15 years ago
Very, Very Complicated!!! I knew it would hard...
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AEvansposted 15 years ago
Very, Very Complicated!!! I knew it would hard...
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  Cris Aposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i'm not here to comment, promise! just wanted to say hi to AE
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imadorkposted 15 years ago
I practice Jediism.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Are you Mr Vadar?
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  goldentoadposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  one day you will be full jedi knight like me
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  jjrubioposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Right now that sounds good to me....
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  goldentoadposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  the force is with you JJ
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  jjrubioposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  imadorkposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  My midi-chlorians surpass your meager levels by far.
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  imadork, can you explain it more ? It sounds interesting.
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  imadorkposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I could easily align with this religion.
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  johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is that a real religion?!
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it's quite awakening by the look of it.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  My the force is strong in that boy!
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  and pictorial proof!
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  JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What do you mean by pictorial proof?
  Thanks,
  Jyoti Kothari
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AEvansposted 15 years ago
Yes, Here I am and how exciting other religions are popping up in other ways, what a refreshing discussion...All of my buddies are stopping by!!!!
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Eng.Mposted 15 years ago
hi guys

Islam is so simple ?

just worship your creator

now, I was thinking
does every one who practice some religion think that his/her religion is the only truth
or do many think that many religions are right as they teach peace , love and justice ?

best regards
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accofrancoposted 15 years ago
mmmm....people in my community practice ritual and idol worshipping using it to do marvelous evil and good things,give spiritual shield from bullet,bombs,bruises,stabs,fire etc.They also tell futures,revive the deads,kill people,make people to have success and prosperity etc.AE y do u need these ideas,are u on a research or writing a thesis?Best of luck!
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Lady Guinevereposted 15 years ago
I am just stopping by to see all the wonderful other beliefs and belif structures as I would love to learn about them. I won't post my comments as I think it will bring some negative vibes here from others who....well...ReligiousTolerance.org is an excellent site to get information about any other religion or belief structure from. Yhere is another one ReligiousFacts.com, I think that is the extention.
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you so much for the informative information and Jyoti and Jewel were speaking of an interesting religion that I found to be quite fascinating. I enjoy learning about other religions. It is a breath of fresh air when we have a better understanding of the others.
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accofrancoposted 15 years ago
For instance,if i want all of u to be viewing my hubs and be clicking on the ads,i will just visit any of the chief priest or "Dibia" of those shrines in my community,and he wil ask me to print a pages of all my hubs and all the hubbers,so he wil now carry out a midnight sacrifice to lower your spirits to obey commands,but in the long run they will request me to offer a sacrifice (usually a beloved family member or loved one,who will be killed) to appease the gods that grant my request.I shouldn't be talking about this as a pure christian.
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JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago
Hi AEvans,
Yopu have started an interesting topic and I contributed to same describing Jainism.
Lot of material is added from wikipedia.

I would like to add some more:

1.There are two categories of worshippers, Shravaka (Layman) and Shramana (Assetic).
Religious community is called Sangha (group) that consists of
1. Sadhu (Monks) 2. Sadhvi (Nuns) 3. Shravaka (Layman) 4. Shravika (Lay-women)

View this blog:
http://paryushan-tokyo.blogspot.com/

View some Jain temples and worshipping method (Puja) in these videos:

1. Temple art of India Part 1 (Pungalia Temple Anniversary Feb 06 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qemc8FFjJgI

2. Temple art of India Part 2 (Jawaharnagar Jain temple 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6wLe7lBRGw

3. Temple art of India Part 3 (Jawaharnagar Jain temple 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56BPFvMxzl8

4. Temple art of India Part 4 (Jawaharnagar Jain temple 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urHLVMzNeJg

5. Katla Mandir : Temple art of India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3azP_u6yqQ

I hope you will find these useful and interesting.

Thanks,

Jyoti Kothari
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  AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I know I certainly will as I have will enjoyed gaining knowledge on different types of religions and it is amazing how many branches there are. It isn't just about Christianity, Muslim, etc. we need to expand our minds are there many other interesting topics to discuss. I will watch these and follow up.
  Thanks...
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RKHenryposted 15 years ago
John, I'm with you. Never heard of it. And, someone once posed the question, "Why Hubpages?"

You never know what's coming next.
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  johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  LOL thanks for taking my side! I think thats actually a first? What do you mean "Why Hubpages?" For what?
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  RKHenryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nothing. I just recently answered a question on why someone should pick hubpages. No big deal.
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  johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ....O ok
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  RKHenryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry folks for sidestepping for a minute.
  
  John, I've been really enjoying your hubs about the weather. Are you looking to be a storm chaser yourself?
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  johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ha! Thanks so much RK! Nah, I just am really into weather. I love every bit of it. I wanted more hubs and I didn't know if weather hubs would get a lot of traffic, but it aint bad. Thanks for reading them!
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  RKHenryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Indeed, a good idea.
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johnb0127posted 15 years ago
Well, im headed to bed folks, catch up with your replys tomorrow (RK) night yall!

--John
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  RKHenryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Chow.
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Team Wisemanposted 15 years ago
This is a great subject! Team Wiseman
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mohamedhmmposted 15 years ago
the lord Jesus is a great teacher like the lord moses, and the lord Muhammad; all of them came from God to learn us the way of life.
may be talking about the lord- lord doesn't mean God it's English word equal the the word master or MR. for respect- Jesus is special issue because many christian believe in him same as God-the father- ; But Muslims who have the last message from God after 600 years from Jesus in their holy book state that the lord Jesus is just a man, and his life and death just test from God; and that's the reason Muslims believe in Jesus as prophet same like the prophet of Islam-Muhammad- and others prophets all same in respect as all of then were great teachers from God for us; but who will follow them?
And also any Muslim believe in all books that came from God; bible, Torah, and Quran; so, really Muslims present God messages, Muslims present the pure Christianity of christian, pure Jews believe in God, which are included inside Islam message clear and strong and that's the power of Islam which it's same message all times from God to us; but who really follow God message?
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JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago
About Santhara in Jainism:

The word santhara means "the bed". Every assetic and layman who believe in Jainism suppose to follow some rules before going to the bed (santhara).

However, it is more popular when it is taken for life time. Process of Santhara is followed to detach oneself from all earthly desires and food is only one of the main criterion.

I agree with Mohit Mishra's post with this little addition.

Thanks,
Jyoti Kothari
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for adding Mr.Khotari.
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mohamedhmmposted 15 years ago
Buddhists not really from God like Christianity or Islam, it's a way of life for a good man; and instead they learn from him and just follow him, people after him worshiped him as God; but, they did same the Christians did with the lord Jesus and equal him to God...
and that's the reason God sent the last message after all of these to Guide us to his way..
Also; not all religion expect their prophet to return; because Muslims believe that lord Jesus will come back and he will break the cross and clear the confusion of Christianity and he will lead Muslims nation and have his kingdom in this land as leader and prophet from God....
So, Muslims not waiting for their prophet Muhammad but the prophet Jesus...
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The prophet jesus went the same way as the other profits. He is dead, deceased, he has shuffled off this mortal coil, he is no more, he is no longer marketing. He has carcked it already!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  His teachings and words are timeless.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ah you have me there! Yes he really left a mark on history and had a lot of good things to say, which led me to begin a study of the bible (English Latin Greek) about thirty nine years ago.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  mohamedhmmposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  you wish; they are alive in our heart, history, and God.
  At all God will send Jesus; and he will come at the right time; and God knew when he should be here.
  and you are dead by your dead ideas; so, you and who like you or who follow you; all dead.
  we are in mission in this life; and it's our test to pass to another life forever; every sinner will pay for his sin and every disbeliever and gays going to hell; so, be happy, you will be with your friends....
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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You really are a nasty little person. Awesome - we hardly ever get any of your particular flavor here. I met lots of Muslims in London during Ramadan because the prostitutes and whiskey still keep flowing.
  
  Well.... Muslims with money anyway.
  
  I do have a question though -
  
  Are the christians going to be in hell too? Because I don't want to spend eternity with them.
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  Curious Travellerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have read little of this debate as I know I would become too heated - but please, above all else, tell me where you get this nonsensical and preposterous notion that there is a letter "e" appears somewhere in the word whisky!!! There never has been a letter "e" in the word "whisky," and never will be!
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  Eng.Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  may be Mark is under the effect of Whiskhy
  
  it is Friday
  
  good weekend to you Mark
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  Eng.Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I know it's written both ways Mark
  just teasing you here
  
  so, how is your spagetti monster doing with you these days?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is a far more important point - although the spellchecker at hubpages insists there is an "e".
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  Jellyrugposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  About religion... The world is certainly a better place due to religion, but even today many wars are wagered due to different religions. Seems as if a little war has started here too, so I shall remain quiet.
  
  Now about whiskey....
  
  Scottish (with disgust), Canadians and Japanese spell it "Whisky" while Irish and American spelling is "Whiskey".
  
  With that little technical detail out of the way, I prefer Scotch myself and pray in many religions that those who drink don't drive.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Right, so anyone who does not believe in your god goes to hell. I can only say that you are as psychotic as your god is.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  mohamedhmm there are many rude jerks on this planet, I understand you.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If you call everyone who disagrees with you a jerk, it won't be long before you have a world full of them. Your pet entity is a psychopath!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Grow up.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have already grown up enough to discard your useless war mongering religion.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So why come here and be abusive and war like.?
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am neither. You speak of your god for me and everyone on the forum. Don't do that. I think without your god, I do not want your god assumed in every sentence, it is a rude arrogant way to address people and I for one will not stand for it.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So leave, go away.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I will decide what I do about my beliefs and which forums I post on you arrogant fanatic!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So you are war like and like fighting.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No, I disagree with your assumptions, and typically you can't deal with it.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You come here and abuse people who believe in god do you think I will not protect them ?
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Abuse is not following you. I get that.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  When anyone here speaks on god you abuse that person ,its not only me.You just insulted mohammedmm because you didn't understand what he was saying.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yep! I also get that abuse is not following muhamedhmm too.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So If you cannot follow you abuse.
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  packerpackposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Please friends don't do this. Fighting in the name of God? This is pathetic. I know this is none of my business but it is going beyond limit. Everyday I see some new thread on god or religion coming up and every day I see people fighting. What are you fighting for? I will tell you what, you guys are fighting for nothing. I said that because I do not believe in God at all (Now please don't hit me for this) and I am really glad that I don't or else I too would become like you guys. I wonder what would have happened if you guys were talking face to face!!!
  
  Can't we all be friends respect each other and help each other? When we fight in the name of god or religion we aren't showing our commitment towards them instead we are showing our actual self!
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  Hell N0posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It's people like you (well, mostly blind Christians, but you as a hell believing Moslem can be included in that list) that inspire me to write hubs. For instance, read my latest hub entitled Escape From Hellcatraz. I think it was you who inspired one part of it.
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JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago
Is not this irrelevant in this thread? Whisky or whiskey has nothing to do in this religion thread.
Thanks,
Jyoti Kothari
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JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago
Dear,
Fighting in the name is not good at all. However abusing any one's belief or attacking their belief is not also good.
The planet can be more pleasant if we can tolerate each other's view.
I may or may not agree with you but I can be your friend any way.
Thanks,
Jyoti Kothari
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  Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I couldn't agree more Jyoti. Thank you.
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  JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is always your choice to be agreed or not!!
  Are you not agree of tolerating each others view? are you not agree that fighting in the name of God id not good?
  You can have any view but still I can consider you as friend.
  Thanks,
  Jyoti Kothari
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earrythmposted 15 years ago
Christianity says "juda" is the son of god....then according to this religion "who is god"....world worships the son of god as god or is there somebody which bible says as god?
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  Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I believe this thread is suppose to be about all religions except Christianity for a change earrythm. This other thread may be able to help with your question, http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/14729
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Mrvoodooposted 15 years ago
I see this has gone the way of every other Religious thread I've ever come across. So much for peace, love, understanding, forgiveness, etc.
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\Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago
most wars in history have been fought in the name of religion, and we can begin to see why on here.....
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Dame Scribeposted 15 years ago
I am a NA but grew up in a non-NA home. One with religion, one without and my other family, NA. I was taught respect and tolerance for other beliefs and follow only what I think is right within my own heart. I have taught my own children the same advice. Follow what's right for your own heart and support those that are good for all Man, Women and Child.
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