Why do people assume the worst of you the moment you mention religion on the Hub forums?
There is no compulsion in religion so when we are having a debate on secular and religious topics why does it wind up the atheists. If you don't believe in religion then don't waste your time commenting on religious threads and let those people who are interested in the topic discuss what they want in harmony without denigrating each other.
I've noticed that and it's sad, and senseless. Many times the comments are mean and belittling, too.
If God is of no interest to you- that is your business. So, mine your business. And if you vote negative- I hope it makes you feel good, b/c I don't care. God bless :-)
Fair enough, and religious people should stop making religious comments on none religious questions and hubs. But that ain't going to happen because people who are grabbed by reigion can't help themselves.
I am not religious but can respect the morality of it, however people have to have blame something for failings within and surrounding their lives, those who criticize any opinion whatsoever are the ones most like to be insecure in their own lives, if they were truly content with their conscience and lot then they would not need to belittle anybody else's views. Just remember it is those that complain who have the largest of problems, its like people who criticize homosexuality the most trying to be homophobic, tend to be slightly gay. People are generally scared and blame is their defence.
One can keep asking, over and over again, WHY do the religious types have to keep trying to push their superstitions on others or ask others to confirm their beliefs for them?
Why do the religious types feel so compelled to have others confirm their delusions and keep telling other religions why they are the "chosen" ones?
"remember, a different faith means a different after life"... Rev. Lovejoy... The Simpsons.
I dont think its because they think the worst of you,its simply because they dont understand the matter being discussed....in general people argue and pick up on things they dont understand...Just my opinion !
Personally i never enter into any discussion about things I dont understand including Politics and some Religions.
I am pretty new so I had no idea people assume the worst when you mention religion. If you are a believer then by definition you see God as the ultimate reality on which all other reality is based and certainly not as a "non-existent entity." So of course you'll want to mention your belief every now and then. It is the lens through which you understand the world. If you accept God as as a reality then He is the most important thing is your life and it would cowardly and even dishonest not to mention Him every now and then.
If you are not a believer, then you have simply chosen a different belief system. There is plenty of evidence on both sides of the fence, so basically each of us believes what we choose to believe. No need to worry about people who do believe in God and like to talk about it. Belief in God is worth absolutely nothing unless it is a completely free choice; no one can force you to believe anything you do not want to believe. If you are an honest committed atheist, defend your belief system with reason, but without anger at those who see things differently.
God is truth. religion is of man and when God is talk about, man is then convicted and is shown for who they are and no man want to see the evil and sin in themselves
People love to shove their beliefs down others throats, on both sides. I think it's human nature for us to try and convert others mindsets. I believe on a subconscious level, people are incapable of coexisting. Most people say that they don't care about what others think, but whenever an opposing view arises, people naturally retaliate. It will never be stopped. I am an atheist (sort of), and i find it annoying when atheists rant about the non-existence of God. At the same time, i find it annoying when religious people rant about how there is definitely a God. In the end, you will NEVER change what someone believes. They have to change their belief on their own. Attacking their belief only strengthens their desire to hold on to it, so that they may one day prove you wrong.
Personally, i dont think its fair for the religioius fanatics to avoid an athiest point of veiw on their beleifs. Why not take something else into consideration in the name of good conversation? Why shut out every other point of veiw? If you beleive so strongly you should have no reason to feel threatend and able to be mature and coexist with every other possible beleif system. Why get deffensive. If it is undoubtedly what you beleive then where does the harmony stop? How strong are your beleifs if they cant stand up to any kind of scruitiny?
So far no one has attacked me in particular for my personal beliefs so it is safe to say that maybe I am lucky.
DR. DURRESHAHWAR PERVEZ
I think the choice of wording is incorrect in this question, no-one assumes "the worst of anyone" who mentions religion! An atheist commenting on a religious thread is simply presenting his/her view on the topic in question.
Within religion there are many different faiths, and between all these faiths there will be many differences of opinion relating to certain religious topics.
Isn't this what debates are about? people voicing their own opinions/thoughts on the topic? Wouldn't it be a short boring debate should all involved be of exactly the same opinion?
No offence meant in any way toward anyone of any religion, I respect the choice and views of all!
The biggest waste of time that I have ever encountered on the internet is the debate between theist and atheist. Never argue with a fool; anyone watching the display will hardly be able to tell who the fool actually is. You've a limited time on this Earth, and tilting at windmills is ridiculous. I think the forums are more often a waste of time for that reason. If you want help for your hubs and hub creation, then the forums are awesome though.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There is a strong chance those very people who think less of you when religion is mentioned already felt that way before you opened your mouth. The important thing is to believe in what you believe in. Stand up for it and allow others to do the same.
I do like religious queries and religious hubs and I do not care for others' opinion because I am not ready at all to abandon my beliefs for atheists or hypocrites who act in the same manner.
That has been a debate since the beginning of time. If you read in the Bible you will see where this was debated and spoken of even in Bible times. I feel that religious beliefs are very personal and people sometimes feel that others are being unrealistic with their comments. I believe that those who are offended by the religious remarks about God and believing in God and heaven and hell are sometimes convicted or maybe aren't sure and this makes them want to bristle or come back in a strong way. We each have a decision to make and no one can make this for us. We do however have to live with our decision and what it brings us in the end. As a Christian I know that I can only speak the truth as I know it and it is my responsibility to do it out a heart of love and not vengence. This is what I try to do.
To be honest with you, I did not realize people assume the worst when religion was mentioned. The majority of people are religious however, to varying degrees and of various types. And most welcome what I call a "spirited debate" and then things fall apart because of their personal traditions they love that end up being mingled in their faith. Atheist and agnostics are in the minority but often are the most determined to challenge others for what or why they believe in a God.
I do not think that people will think the worst of you when you mention religion on the hub forums. I think that most of the peole on hub pages are intelligent and creative writers.
I think that religion and God are vast topics and everyone shuold have the right to answer questions on them and contribute their opinion in a respectful manner.
I think that religion has to do with peoples core belief and how they identify themselves, that is why it is such a sensitive topic. I think that even the atheists are sensitive because in the back of their mind they must think what if there really is a God then what?
Anyway, I think that people need to respect the spiritual practice or other and just keep it moving. Everyone will have their own personal day of judgement and that is a fact.
Agree, Zubair, but online discussions seem to bring out the worst in people. I have had people, even Christians call me names on here - at first I thought there might be a different deportment on HubPages than other online sites, but it seems that HubPages has its share of obnoxious antagonistic people just like every other site, perhaps a little fewer. Most people on here seem pretty polite. I think some people just like to argue. They do not have the manners or wherewithall to know how to carry on a polite and respectful conversation. Wish we had an "ignore" or "block" button!
True religion is based upon one's personal relationship with his God, love, forgiveness & living his faith. Many atheists feel left out & hate that, so they project their hate upon those of faith.
A real Atheist, lives and lets live, however, the others are a fringe breed, ...loud & supported by various political groups who hate Conservative POVs. Their underlying motto? Eliminate God, then sin or right/wrong doesn't exist. This is the subtext of their actions. They are their own gods. They can love, hate, destroy and try to get enough signatures on a petition to get it into law.
So it goes, IMHO, WAY beyond Atheists but the GROUPS who stir hate USING some Atheists & who want to divide this nation of ours and b/c many religious ppl are NOT speaking up, they're getting away with it!
Being a Jew, Jesus didn't put up with that behavior. An example was when he whipped the crap out of the money changers in the temple. He not only spoke up, he acted and believed so much in his God that he even died for his faith.
My religion, sadly has become a mere shadow of what I remember it was and still could be.
Seriously, many Christians during the Roman occupation were glad to be fed to the lions! No comparison to the Kool Aid preaching I myself have become saddened by today.
Don't worry! There is an afterlife, right? Just imagine those Atheists scratching their spirit heads wondering what happened. lol
In His time, this will all be worked out. In the meantime we have a peace that passe ALL human understanding and only that peace can come from a God Who loves ALL His children. It's kind of funny, really. Hope this helps.
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