Local Evidence here on HubPages that Man created God in his own Image

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Paragliderposted 14 years ago
Something I've noticed here in the forum is that there would appear to be as many flavours of God as there are believers. I won't mention any names, but I've noticed that inclusive, welcoming people have an inclusive God who loves everyone; people who like the idea of judgment and punishment have a judgmental God; people who tend towards mysticism have a cosmic God; people who like regimentation and ritual find their God in a church or mosque; while the individualists find that they have a private relationship with their exclusive personal God.

To me, this strongly suggests that man creates God in his own image, and not the other way around.
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hahaha its more of a figure of speach than anything else. God is the Light with no beginning and no end and we all come from him , all are his form.
  We all manifest from this light.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus lied! He said he was "Alpha and Omega"!
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But Mohit - you are enlightened and God is the Light - That further supports my case!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good job! One believer down who's next?
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In fact, Mohit's view isn't so far removed from my own. We are both in awe of the cosmos. It's just that he sees the cosmos as God and I see it as the cosmos.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's intense! If you could just knock God out of the equation you two would be harmony and you could unite and take on Israel. That's not easy either!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We are in harmony , we have different opinions but don't fight over them.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I guess I'll never learn! Sorry for my ignorance it's all I have.
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  and a nice sense of humour
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ah! You smelled me out!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I do have some intelligence hope you figure that out
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I bow to your greatness!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  and I bow to yours
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  God is within you as well Paraglider and so your image is also god for me.
  I see divinity in you so often.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Could it be that God is all of the above and so are we?
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We are certainly all of the above, and more. I'm not sure that says anything about God though.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Probably not but I cannot explain faith either. To have faith in anything is making an area in your mind where hope and possibility can exist. That is not to say that whatever you have faith in will happen merely because you are open to it happening. But when it does it can make you think that something helped in its' fruition.
  
  Some people place God in that mix to make it feel like there is somebody listening and may possibly grant your request. Some even think you can petition God this way. Regardless of what you think about faith it is given and when it goes horribly wrong is when it is given with an expectation of reward.
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  aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are ABSOLUTELY right. All gods are made in man's image, EXCEPT, ...well..THE ONE God.
  By now you know Who I mean.
  Remember the 1st commandment. (preempting idols/idolatory!)
  
  Jesus called them "impostors".
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I suspect you are talking about the 'Immortal, invisible God only wise /in light inaccessible hid from our eyes', as the old hymn goes.
  But why are there so many different versions even of that one?
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  aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He is also a PERSONAL God. He reveals Himself to his (own) based on who THEY are. I gather you have noticed we are NOT all the same. It's not that He is a different God, or another version. What I can relate to, you may not etc.
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  manlypoetrymanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wow...that is "spot-on" accurate thinking, Paraglider...That's a pretty wise think to say. I'm going to ponder that thought for awhile myself...no kidding or sarcasm intended. That is a very perceptive thing that you said (wrote).
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  aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah.But that's the kind of guy he is.
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sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
You know, I thought that might be the case! I've got to get off the religious koolaid!
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Paragliderposted 14 years ago
And we must all have come across strong patriots whose God is nationalistic? - I think I have a cast-iron case building here
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\Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago
sometimes people really do say silly things, i am sure it is just to upset, but why do it.... why not stop provoking people who just happily want to have their own religion, and be happy with it...... some happy without it fair enough...
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nothing silly about it, Brenda. I think very few people acknowledge a God that strongly disagrees with their own views. At the very least, will you agree that believers tend to mold their perception of God to something they are comfortable with?
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are correct to a good extent.By worshiping a particular image you will see that image as divinity but then one needs to go beyond to the formless god.
  "Worship me in spirit" Jesus
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Listen to what he's saying! Para-dude you still have some work to do.
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No problem. I'm not trying to shoot anyone down, least of all old friends and fellow poets. But as a Rationalist, my role is to propose theories to see if they stand up to critical analysis. So far, this one is doing quite well.
  
  And taking on Israel is for another forum
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'll say! I thought a rationalist was someone who passed out food, oh well, I guess I'll stick to digging ditches.
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, no - that's a Saviour - remember the loaves and fishes?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're right! I do remember that! How do you think he did that?
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  carefully?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You sure it wasn't Ginsu knifes?
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You've put this and your hypothesis very eloquently! What you've said takes me back to my psychodyanmic training - It seems to be a simple case of the psyhological defence mechanism of projection. It's so easy to project onto God either parts of ourselves that we love or parts that we hate because our view of him/her is an image formed in the mind - our fallible mind.
  
  That's not to say that that is all god is neccessarily, but it's very easy for many people to "put on" god what they want to put on him/her and not look beyond their own thoughts.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's way too many psycho's for me! Let's can God and be done with it!
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Susana - first, thanks for the 'professional appreciation' I think the question of projection is important because the downside of religion is that wars are fought over it, with God firmly seconded to both sides.
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldn't say it's a professional appreciation, lol. Just what sprang to mind as I read your post. It got me thinking and I appreciate that You've brought to light a very important point regarding how people see god and how their belief is formed and sustained. "Thinking beyond our thoughts" is a useful way to proceed through life in my view. Question Everything!
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  'Thinking beyond our thoughts' is good. Most children will question everything. The worst thing we can do to them is give them all the answers.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So the next time my son asks me if I'm gay I should just say, "Guess?"
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hey they are trying to have serious debate
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know but I'm sick as a dog and when I lay down I just start coughing! Man, I feel lousey!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Have asked god to help you
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Every waking moment.
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  ralwusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You know they say a picture is worth a thousand words, try saying that with a picture please.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My first one didn't scare you off! I figured that would be the end of the picture requests!
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Some answers are OK...
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why?
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Otherwise I won't know if it's what I really believe or just something someone told me to believe. I've been asking myself the question "Are we our beliefs?" for a long while. When we question our beliefs and find they do not hold up the process of them crashing down can be extremely painful, but once we've got past that point, there is the option to create something new and more congruent with who we really are.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't living a righteous life enough?
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You tell me - is that your belief? If so i have no difficulty accepting that. I don't go in for righteousness myself - it's too close to self righteous. I like to put my efforts into other things.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, living a good life with a kind heart isn't enough?
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think it's good enough for lots of people because that's what they do. I was just born with a very intense desire to really understand myself and others and this universe we live in. To do that I need to question. But that's just my path not everyone's.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I try not to think that hard it gets me in trouble.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Might be
  Might not
  Your choice ,your gamble
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How about for a babies laugh or a childs hug?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It looks like you're not done with mohit. He's back and I still detect some God there.
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  \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well not in my case no. I think sometimes people look for a religion that suits them and they don't want to change. I have stuck by my religion because i believe it to be the truth, but i do not find it easy...... i don't think i would have been a person looking for religion if i was not brought up in it. I see the values of having a religion, now and for the future, but it does not always suit me, i make sacrifices, a lot of them if the truth be known, because i believe my religion is right......
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's absolutely fine if it works for you. I am interested in getting to the bottom of things - lifetime learning, if you like - which is why I value theories and questions above faith and answers. I know my way is not for everyone either.
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  \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  some people spend all their lives searching don't they??????
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Only the lucky ones
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  \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  true
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is and you are.
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  \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  it is and you are what??????
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is the truth and the light. Love isn't allways easy but if you look carefully you'll see only one set of footprints in the sand.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with ya Bren ,and Ive come to the conclusion that if people suggest anything close to 'getting along' peacefully ,its like waving a red flag to a bull.
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And yet, you'll see that we've been having a very pleasant discussion here, with a nice admixture of philosophy and humour, and not even one unpleasant posting. So it would appear that the topic was worth raising.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes! As far as it goes. Until someone pops in copying and pasting Bible quotes
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just copy n paste back from your own book, and we will change the Religious Forum to the copy n paste room
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't have a book! I'm illiterate !
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is that the kind of paste you can eat?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sure its edible , the bread of life
  
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The last time I ate paste my mouth was sealed for hours! My wife said it wasn't long enough!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The bottom line Para is that many believers ,true believers do not post here ,sure they read , but resist speaking where the waters are usually choppy and turbulent.
  
  Some Christians for example would love to discuss ,not debate Christ or scripture without the constant ridicule and critism.
  Its immature and repetitive in my opinion.
  
  For goodness sake ,everyone just quit being so controlling and let people believe exactly what they want without smart arse blah blah....
  
  I have never heard so many stereotypes so openly endorsed on here.
  Yes I beleive In God , but in your mind ,dont put me in a box ,for you wont get to know me that way. Let me be free of labels.
  And I will do my best to do the same for you
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There is no ridicule or attempted control in my original post. And of course people can believe whatever they like.
  I see plenty of evidence that people believe in a God that suits their personality, and little evidence of people believing in a God they find disagreeable.
  This is a perfectly valid area for discussion and does not need your censorship {"quit being so controlling and let people believe exactly what they want without smart arse blah blah...."}
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I was not addressing you personally , more to anyone ,or whoever it applied too.
  
  I enjoy for the main part your posts although like mine ,they are from an individuals perspective ,do you not think?
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Definitely worth raising and discussing in a civilised way. So what do you think paraglider - are we our beliefs? Do humans need belief as a basis for life? I know some of the worst times in my life were when i felt like i couldn't believe in anything, which in itself was a belief!
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Personally, I prefer to do without beliefs, as far as possible. In particular, I try to avoid accepting answers that prematurely stop a line of inquiry. An obvious example would be the Genesis creation story. To accept that as an answer to the question of origin simply does away with archaeology, geology, cosmology, etc. I'd say, where you can't know, you should not pretend you can, but you should keep trying.
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  Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm on the same page. My belief in the creation story fell down when I was about 7 years old, with the rest of the bible stories following suit very quickly.
  
  I guess I've jumped on the link between how our beliefs (in any area) affect what we think the truth is, and in relation to your hypothesis how this affects how people see god.
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It also helps to be aware of the distinction between belief and knowledge, and in the case of beliefs, to be able to mentally assign them probabilities, rather than insisting they are absolute truths. From this, comes a degree of humility and a great deal of tolerance.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Religionist:optimistic and opportunistic
Atheist: Pessimistic and sees the difficulty in their every opportunistic argument to persuade

And the twain shall never meet.
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  For the record, I've never equated atheism with rationalism (which is the analytical wing of agnosticism).
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Oh yer just so smart! I hear ya.
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C.V.Rajanposted 14 years ago
Paraglider,

YOu have put it very nicely.

I will only change your last line that only an earnest seeker who grows beyond all these "limited" limitations of God, knows what God truly is.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Here's another fish and bread eater!
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks C.V. - I won't follow you there because I remain unconvinced of the existence of God. But I'm glad you see the value of my question
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PirateGirlposted 14 years ago
Was I on holiday when Gods photo hit the Daily Newspapers, can someone post me a link plz !
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C.V.Rajanposted 14 years ago
Hi Paraglider,

I am glad that I bumped on you. Had the pleasure of reading your profile and a couple of posts. So, a philosopher cum wanderer!

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa says there are 2 types of seekers "the bahutak" and the "kutichak". Bahutak wanders here and there to find answers and when he exhausts his wander thirst, he becomes a kutichak - one who sits at one place to contemplate and seek the truth within himself.

By the way, have you heard of Ramana Maharishi? I think, he is the best person for your temparament. Find out!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What?
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've not come across Ramana Maharishi, but I'm sure he's findable on Google. I'll take a look.
  As to traveling, I expect to go home in a few more years. But whether I'll be ready to stay there is another open question!
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
Local Evidence here on HubPages that Man created God in his own Image

Oh! So that's why God made lots of errors ! He's human after all !
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He is! well that seems like a rip-off!
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PirateGirlposted 14 years ago
Hardly when you don't have an image of God !
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
If that happens just tell them, "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around."
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've been telling so much I got bored !!
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
I've got plenty of bible quotes, but they are not at all popular!
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Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago
I believe you quoted me out of context Para

For goodness sake ,everyone just quit being so controlling and let people believe exactly what they want without smart arse blah blah....

'everyone'
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  OK. I'll just quote the smile this time.
  Seriously though - this is a discussion forum. I posted a rationalist topic, and we're discussing it. All's well.
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Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago
Yes all is well
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DennisBarkerposted 14 years ago
Over the years I've found that my version of god has changed radically, from christian, to not a chance, to a buddhist version, then a pagan version of ritual, and now a kind of amalgum of everything, I expect that this will change again, and again as I gain experience and insight.

If I know anthing at all its that the journey is fun, and painful, enlightening and stupid all at the same time.

I guess thats just the way life is:)
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Evolution of the soul
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So true! You're more enlightened that many of the 'christian believers ' in this forum. Searching is knowledge. Being on a standstill, ignorance
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He is an evolved soul , just read some of his posts and you will see this man does have knowledge and is humble enough to say he is seeking even more
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's not being humble. It's being real.For me 'humble 'is a bad word. I found out during my life ,that people so called'humble' are very proud indeed . Of their humility
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humble
  hum⋅ble
  /ˈhʌmbəl, ˈʌm-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [huhm-buhl, uhm-] e
  
  –adjective
  1. not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
  2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.
  3. low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly: of humble origin; a humble home.
  4. courteously respectful: In my humble opinion you are wrong.
  5. low in height, level, etc.; small in size: a humble member of the galaxy.
  –verb (used with object)
  6. to lower in condition, importance, or dignity; abase.
  7. to destroy the independence, power, or will of.
  8. to make meek: to humble one's heart.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So? Everybody likes to be called 'humble'. you said so of denis as a praise. liking to be called 'humble' is pride. I hope nobody calls me that, even I'm a very proud person
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He is courteously respectful and I do like reading what he writes.
  At the same time you always say you respect my views which shows humbleness on your side as well, sorry for calling you humble
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Truth is begun on the path of adversity, it begins with birth I reckon as that is some fight to behold.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
When one thinks he has found humility, he has lost it IMO.
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
He is courteously respectful and I do like reading what he writes.

That doesn't mean he's humble. It mean's he's O.K.
We should ask him if he thinks he's humble I think he's not, and that, for me, is a praise
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
@ mohit
respecting you is not humbleness.It's accepting you as you are. I can accept you as you are, because I'm very sure and proud of myself
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  For me, humble is the Uriah Heep end of the scale. The other end extreme arrogance. Neither pole is attractive!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A person with a live and let live attitude is humble according to me
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Peaceeee!!!!!!!
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TMinutposted 14 years ago
Can't agree with the OP because it can easily be taken more than one way - wouldn't God manifest to everyone in the way they understand and can accept the best? When God reveals "him"self to someone, that person can't even think about it, there are no concepts or words to cover God so eventually one has to find a way to refer, even in one's own mind, to what happened and what is.

That IS making God in one's own image in a way but that doesn't change what God is in the first place.
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