Indeed! Brilliant question, which begs the next: when??? I mean we can fathom all sorts of theories as to states of matter, universal compression, big bang expansion, and all sorts of fantastic notions of "bending" quasi-time (the order of material events) or that of quasi-space (is there a finite density? Can "empty space rallly contain nothing? And if it ends, what is beyond that end?). And if God is the beginning and the end, the nearest cell and the "farthest" universe or galaxy or infinitely smallest point at the edge, does He exist BEYOND such tentative, theoretical end, and if so, the can anyone, especially the faithful, call the point beyond which only God exists the end??? If we apply these same spacial questions to time, does not the very concept of time itself shatter into infinity??
Well done, Stan. Bound by time and space, we puny human minds cannot comprehend infinity, or existence without beginning or end. Maybe that explains why we cannot understand God.
Well said by both of you Stan and Attikos. My answer is simply I do not have a clue . I have all the same questions that Stan so it was great to read his answer.
How can a force exist without a medium? That which we call god is the medium (Pure Energy). The forces that govern the universe is the evidence of its presence.
Ok, so what did this beginning look like and when did the beginning start. 100 zillion years ago years ago ( and that is a very small number compared to infinity). How did the beginning start is the real question.
There is no answer to your question because it is impossible for us to know.
That is the conclusion that I came out with, I just like to hear what other people have to say on the issue. Thanks
I believe that God came to be as a form of evolution, just as we, who were formed by him, from the molecular structures of the universe. Our start in the cosmos and the beginning of everything ..is..and forever will be. Because we are human and everything has a beginning and an ending in our minds, we assume there was a beginning and and ending to the universe. This is, in my conception, wrong, and life of all, included in the universe in the forms of stars, planets, moons, of all the galaxies, are one and the same, and will evolve over and over, in an ever increasing cycle of existence. This is much like our own bodies that perish to the dust from which we each were born and lay the seeds for more life, and the millions of years as we call time, will continue to occur and be forever, as what we call, existence.
Interesting answer. The question is what did God evolve from? What was the origin? When did this event take place?
Please read my hub on "Our Creator". and "Does it Matter about Matter"
He (it) didn't.
Time is a created thing. So is space. Both contain a quality called "continuity." That's common throughout all of physical reality.
The realm of creation is a discontinuous one. It isn't bound by what exists nearby or near-when.
God IS. This is above all time and outside of it. Some might say that God is immortal, and that would not be entirely inaccurate, but it's not exactly right.
God exists outside of all time, because He is not made up of any created thing, including time.
God is the Source of all. God is perfect cause without the need for effect. He is in this like the Buddhist paramitas -- the perfections (Zen one-sided coins) of existence.
When Peter, the disciple of Christ, stepped out of his storm-tossed boat onto the unsettle Sea of Galilee to stand before his master, he stepped outside of "reason" and "continuity" for a moment. In that moment, he held perfect confidence -- not the imperfect form that we know of in this mortal realm. Our normal "confidence" is tainted by varying degrees of doubt. Paramita confidence contains no spot of doubt. Creation cannot exist with doubt. But creation can persist with less than "know."
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