Do think God would command followers to murder or kill another person or race?

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   LAURENS WRIGHTposted 12 years ago

   Do think God would command followers to murder or kill another person or race?
   
   Some people around the world think differently about God/gods and religion, race and ethics.  Consider ethic cleansing, DNA/genetics, population control, religion, background, history, race, medical conditions and disease.

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   Thomas Swanposted 12 years ago

   I'm not sure. Perhaps a Christian could answer because it could be that God has already committed or ordered a genocide before in the Old Testament. If that's the case, then Christians must think this is acceptable when God is seen to condone it.

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   nightwork4posted 12 years ago

   no i don't think that would happen. now if god was real and what religion teaches was real, i think it would be a daily thing.

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If a child of yours was in a car wreck, would you rescue the car or the people inside? God created His children in His image, but He is not Homo sapiens. The latest mission to Earth gave us orders to "love one another"

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      d.williamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      lone: again your analogy is illogical.  U R attributing human characteristics to the spirit world to try and validate your beliefs.

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      Chris Nealposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If you believe that God created human beings then it is logical that humans have God-like feelings, not the other way around. It is not illogical to think that God has "human" characteristics.

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      Thomas Swanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      But there are specific things that God has to be, like omnipotent, omniscient, etc. Lone describes a god who appears surprised by unexpected events, causing changes in his plan. How does this cohere with an omniscient god who should know the future?

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      cam8510posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If man is created in the image of God, then each would resemble the other.  Yes, God would resemble us because we would resemble him.

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      nightwork4posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      what does who i would rescue have to do with anything?if anyone was in a car wreck, they would be the who i would rescue.those "orders" aren't being followed very well now are they.

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   lone77starposted 12 years ago

   The first commandment is to love.
   
   But God is on a mission to rescue His children. And yet, let's be clear that God is not Homo sapiens! The implications of that fact are profound in the extreme. It means that God is not interested in these Homo sapiens bodies except as a tool to assist in that rescue. Our attachment to these bodies runs counter that His purpose. And yet, without these bodies, the dead asleep children of God would have no way to gain the needed continuity of consciousness to contemplate such things. For example, try to balance your checkbook in your dreams. The dream landscape is unsteady at best.
   
   Let's use an analogy. Say you have thousands of cars and their drivers stuck in rush hour, bumper-to-bumper traffic. Let's say that a nuclear bomb is headed their way. Some people get the news on their radios; a few of them ignore the news and refuse to believe it. Many remain oblivious. When the believers get out of their cars, those who don't believe honk their horns in anger. Despite the attempts of the believers to warn their fellow drivers, many warnings are ignored. Some believers are killed for their attempts to help. But in the end, the cars and the many remaining drivers are killed in the blast. A few of the believers escape to shelters.
   
   This is an imperfect analogy. But the cars represent these Homo sapiens bodies. No parent is going to go mourn the destruction of the car, but will mourn instead the loss of their physical child. By the same token, God will not mourn the loss of these human bodies, but will mourn the loss of His spiritual children -- the baby gods who fell from grace so long ago.
   
   God created the Flood to stop genetic pollution of Homo sapiens. That's according to recent research into Genesis and a biblical timeline compatible with those of science. God killed 99% of humanity to protect the mission.
   
   God ordered Moses to kill some tribes of Canaan, but not others. Why? Because Israel needed to start out pure -- spiritual, rather than lustful and distracted by spiritual perversions rampant in those other cultures. But Jesus came to modify the instructions (not the law) so that we love one another.
   
   Whatever the approach, shedding the attachments to this world remains the hardest thing we will likely ever do, but that's what this world is all about.

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      Thomas Swanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So God changed his mind quite a lot. If God is omniscient, why didn't he know all this was going to happen? He shouldn't have had to change his message based on unexpected events; he should have known before it went wrong.

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      d.williamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ur explanations, as well as those of  many religion's beliefs, R bizarre &  totally illogical.  These stories that U quote were not reality, & did not really happen - U do know that don't U?   the Scary part? Our leaders actually think so too

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   cam8510posted 12 years ago

   No, and that goes for every religion, not just Christianity.  But, speaking of our western version of the Christian Faith, my answer applies to the story of Abraham and his son Isaac, Israel's conquest of Canaan, the mass murder of Israelites by Israelites (Exodus 32),  and any other murderous and/or genocidal biblical reference, real or imagined, to God, including the Battle of Armageddon AND Gog and Magog.

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   Chris Nealposted 12 years ago

   Since you capitalize God I assume you're referring to the God of the Bible. The answer to your straight question is yes. In the Old Testament, God did command the Israelites to wipe out groups of people, and the Mosaic Laws did command death for certain transgressions. BUT...Jesus did not command us to kill, He commanded us to love and cherish and treat others as we would want to be treated. The early Christians were universally pacificistic because of this, it wasn't until a bit later, when more Romans (including Roman soldiers) started converting to Christianity, that some people thought about if you could be a Christian and still fight (Augustine's Theory of the Just War.) So no, we as Christians are not commanded to kill or murder. Even in the Old Testament, it states clearly that vengeance belongs to the Lord. We are not to take matters into our own hands.

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      cam8510posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus and Jehovah/Yaweh/YHWH, according to Christianity,  They are the same guy.  So even if Jesus didn't command it while on earth, He did in the OT.  So there is no difference.

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      Chris Nealposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps, but the fact that it was commanded under certain very limited occasions to a specific group in the OT and not at all in the NT is still significant.

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   d.williamposted 12 years ago

   According the the Christian bible, all that killing and carnage  that fills its pages  was directed by God himself.  If one believes in a benevolent God, then they cannot actually believe that ANY killing for any reason is directly sanctioned by that God. 
   Each of your 'considerations' mentioned above are separate entities and all are being done by individuals and groups that have their own agendas for murder - and they are all perpetrated for the gain of wealth and control over others.   
   Except, of course, the disease part, unless one includes germ warfare, agent orange, et al; and genetic manipulation of our food supplies into that category.

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      Chris Nealposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ah, so it wasn't so much a question as an invitation to argue. Good to know.

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      cam8510posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      As is the case so much of the time on these types of questions, Chris.  Peace and good will to all.

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      d.williamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If ?s asked R meant only 4 the laity 2 answer, then that should B stipulated when the question is asked.  Opposing points of view R never received well on any religious ?s.  When non cult members comment they are troublemakers, but reversed R OK

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   Darrell Robertsposted 12 years ago

   People have different ideas of what the term God means.  Therefore I am only able to give my humble opinion as an answer.  I believe that God as defined by some is all powerful, all knowing, everywhere, the creator, maintainer and destroyer of the entire creation/reality. 
   The little planet that we are on called Earth is very tiny relative to the universe.  I think that if we have free will, God will not micro-manage what we do amongst ourselves.  I think that God would not need to command  one person to kill another, unless God wanted to make a point. 
   God is really does not need us when you think about it.  God could destroy the entire planet in the blink of an eye, and God would still exist. Therefore, I only am concerned about being in God's good grace and doing the best I can to please the creator of all big and small.
   
   I hope this helps.

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   cjpooja26posted 11 years ago

   No,how can we blame God for our doing. Human being is very clever and can think about what to do and what to not, and if we are seriously following Gods commands than why there is so much  crime in the world.
   It's totally wrong God never command or demand for anything.

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