Has anyone been sited for duplication of part of a hub?

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   carol7777posted 12 years ago

   Has anyone been sited for duplication of part of a hub?
   
   I have written several hubs on Astrology with no problem...Just got the notice of duplication and I removed what I could without losing the integrity of the topic. Still the notification appeared. Any help here as I hate to stop writing on this topic.

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   joanwzposted 12 years ago

   Try changing the way your word the passages or changing the subheading titles slightly. If there's away to do it, point out how the new submission is different than previous submissions.

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      carol7777posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I tried making changes but no luck.  Maybe it takes time for it to straighten out.   Thanks so much.

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   JThomp42posted 12 years ago

   Yes, I have been cited for duplicate content a few times. I have no idea how you can exactly duplicate something that you write and is original?? But, yes it has happened to me up to the point of having to remove the Hub entirely. Good Luck!

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   Old Poolmanposted 12 years ago

   You have stumbled onto one of the biggest mysteries of hub pages.  I have had this happen a couple times and could never find the supposed duplicate content myself. I asked for help from hub pages thinking if they found it, they must know exactly what and where it was.  But, it is up to the author to find this themselves.  I gave up in frustration and just deleted the hubs.
   In reality, a single word, combination of words, or sentence in most any hub is duplicated somewhere else.  Yet most hubs are never flagged.   Perhaps someone who has actually resolved this issue could help you with this problem.

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      carol7777posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I also wrote for help.  To me the problem is not this one hub, but I had in line to write about 25 hubs and now I am going to rethink. Amazingly the first five went through without a hitch. Unfortunately these particular hubs take a long time. Thanks

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   lrc7815posted 12 years ago

   Carol, I'll take a wild guess at this one.  Since you have written four others with no problem I am wondering...did you use phrases or references in this one that are identical to the other hubs.  I think it's some sort of script that scans the text in a hub then searches google for similar text. If it finds some predefined percentage of similar text, it will get flagged as containing duplicate content.
   
   I had this happen when I wrote a hub on Native American legends and quoted (and cited) a reference source.  Because I was writing about a written legend, I never could get around it and had to delete the hub.  I'm sure there's a trick to doing that but darned if I could figure it out. 
   
   Just thinking out loud on this one.

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      carol7777posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I will go back and check as the duplication may have been in a similar one and a new sentence made it pop up.  As I said I hate to lose this series as I had some great ideas. Thanks for adding your thoughts always appreciated.

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   CrisSpposted 12 years ago

   Yes, once and I immediately contacted them to ask for a more specific explanation because I've never published the article anywhere (yet) and it ticks me (somehow), the fact that it's my original content. But they were prompt to reply and fix it. It was republished soon after.

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      carol7777posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      thanks so much.  I contacted them with the same information.  There were a few similarities and I addressed them.  Hope I hear back.  Thanks again for responding...I am pretty upset about this..as you can well imagine.

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   tsmogposted 12 years ago

   This is a great question. The answers I see are great suggestions. I little story. I have been using my aka since maybe 2003. First in chats, the forums, then publishing sites and more. That aka has become popular as others modify it as Tsmog, and TSmog and more. I do not have a registered trademark on it so fair game as they say. Yet tsmog holds true to any and all content that I publish. That aka is tracked miraculously with IP addresses and such too.
   
   I wrote a poem I really, really would like to publish here at hubpages. However, I published it somewhere else and kinda' think it was a chat. Well, I get a duplicate warning when I try to publish here at hubpages and other self-publishing sites.
   
   Consider the ethics and integrity, which hubpages seeks with their endeavor and more so the partnered relationship with Google. If Google flags it then Hubpages will flag it. The same goes if a hubber flags it, then hubpages will flag it. The same goes if a 'reader' foreign to hubpages flags it, then hubpages will flag it. Remember the process is canned or it is an automated system.
   
   I suggest seeking out some Free duplicate search sites and run one or two of your hubs through them. If the results are positive, then document those results with a print screen and copy/paste method for future communications for a 'human' review. Help the person upline or pay it forward methodology comes into the process.
   
   Bear in mind Hubpages, which is both a business venture and a community, is not the 'rule maker.' per se with the confines of Terms of Service with the larger picture. They are the rule enforcer, however they are only so many 'humans' shall we say. Yet, powerfully, they too are like your free legal aid or resource for assistance. Providing (for the sake of a term) evidentiary support offers a more powerful approach.
   
   Oddly, sharing, most of my duplicate warnings are 'NOT' from me copying someone else. They are from me copying 'myself' in the past somewhere else on the internet. Remember, once published, authorship is claimed and does become a source. The wizardry of the internet is not refined to the point of that likely hood of knowing 'who' the author is, only there is an article or publication that is being duplicated.
   
   In other words the article in publishing is considered the authority first. If you are quoting an article or source or resource, and it is not generic in content, then it is a duplicate. The property is the article or intellectual content.

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      carol7777posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My material was totally original...Thanks for the explanation and help...I am feeling pretty bummed right now.

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   grumpiornotposted 12 years ago

   Wow, Carol! Fortunately I have not had this... but it must be enormously annoying and sounds very unfair. To some degree, there might be similar content because at a point in time, a few words can easily be duplicated by another writer. Duplication has happened in scientific discoveries and I recall a story about numerous monkeys on a typewriters eventually writing Shakespeare.
   
   Imagine Shakespeare's horror when hubpages blasts him for duplicating the content of monkeys...
   
   Personal note: thanks for sharing awesome hubs - we can always rely on you to share quality content and no garbage.

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   carol7777posted 12 years ago

   I hope some of you come back here to find out what happened. I got an apology and my hub was re-instated.  Of course I had deleted quite a bit, but no problem.  I am a happy camper. I really did not understand...my material was original..Anyway all is well that ends well.

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