Pretty sick of atheist and christians...
- sandra rinckposted 14 years ago
0Can you blame me?
All both will ever do is fight with each other. Bored to the core with the same secular reasoning back and forth. The figure pointing. Both, in my eyes, are one in the same.
Sadly the only thing I have learned from either side is how to be positively negative.
Learned a bit of history on the way though. Does anyone just accept both as what they are? Atheist wont give up until religions give up. Religionist wont give up until everyone else submits.
I figure F**k'em both. By that I mean, I give up on both... moving on now.
Uh oh!No but it gets pretty frustrating to agree and disagree with either when you don't have a side.
Amen to that!
Good for you. Best ignored all of them.
Depends on your goals. You really think I can talk some sense into anyone?
Especially as they get so "tired" of being bashed for spreading their faith.
And so it goes on.
I absolutely swear 100% I will never say I do not believe in god if no one says they do.
I will not be the one to break the peace.
- Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago0
Which is where I started, got distracted and bashed and bashed away, took a moment, realized I have been bashed by both side, considered that both just want recognition, recognized both. Accept both but trust something better.................................................................................................... I am fine with both sides, neither is better then the other, don't insist I choose or get the bashing myself. Just sick of it really. Returning to the love side of life.
Love em' all even the knuckle heads and I feel much happier.
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago0
Does it scare you that much?
Wow! I would have thought jesus would have held your hand (or whatever) to tide you over. No?
Too bad
Oh my GAWWDDD....You are killing us!! LOL
I do agree with the original post which is basically:
"CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!!" (btw: if someone can tell me the keyboard combo which makes the actual laughing face thaaaattt'dddd beee greeeeaaatttt cuz I really don't know that and I'm a freaking programmer)
here we go, ***sigh*** well Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
Happy Thanksgiving to you, AEvans.
To all others, lol, and you KNOW who you are: doom, gloom, destruction, cataclysmic events and there is no escaping it, OR hellfire and damnation, and may God have pity on your soul. So why don't you buck up and find someone to be nasty-ish to? (Both sides of the aisle...haha, if I have to spell that out.)Since you basically "came out" (oh, don't take that literally, Sneako), I see you as too joking and jolly (eh, even if you are a silly Republican) to be talking to you in the above.
So Happy Thanksgiving. Hey...I've got the flu (could it be...the SWINE flu!? oh my), but Happy Thanksgiving, anyway,.
- zampanoposted 14 years ago0
girls do too
I would think it is more like the ability to let whatever happens, happen and still be able to handle it positivity.
In other words, I don't know if tragedy will come my way tomorrow or how I will deal with it. I just believe that I will get through it and I will handle it to the best of my ability.
It's a strength that is not defined but comes from believing or having faith that whatever it is, it will always be okay.
Maybe some cannot find their strength alone and need help, encouragement, an external source... an external god. Some can conjure up that well needed strength... their inner god.
No one knows what algorithms life goes by, but most know that at some point something you really don't like will come your way and how we deal with is... well....
semantics.
- zampanoposted 14 years ago0
- Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago0
Happy Thanksgiving AEvans and everyone!
- Home Girlposted 14 years ago0
- Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago0
Welcome Stimp! Glad to have helped
oh my so why another thread?
really, can't we be adults here and get along. do all of our friends believe the same way, of course not.Why not, at least this one has more positiveness then others. Note the discrepancies though.
Was that my intention? No, but is that why I am sick of both? Yes.
I like that: It is what it is as long as life phylosophies are flexible, can change over time.
So if we could replace the word "belief" with "phylosophy" in the abbreviation of the forum title, maybe the thread would no longer attract so many atheists and christians?
Now that is horrible!! There also some sick individuals in this world that will attack and prey on innocent human beings that is insane.
- ralwusposted 14 years ago0
I don't know, every once in awhile I enjoy a good fight. I have learned a lot in this place to tell ya the truth. No winners except for the ones who thrive on it I suppose. Keep it up and maybe in time y'all go the way of the dinosaurs.
If you want a forum about spirituality but you don't want christians and atheists there, just start one.
Say at the beginning that you don't want any fighting.
If people jump in at the end and don't realize that you don't want fighting, just say so.
People will respect that.Beliefs are formed by what we have learned to perceive as the truth, and many are willing to fight to keep their truth intact.
To hear the atheist and christian banter you would think both sides are fighting to prevent their co-believers from being recruited by the other side. If this weren't the case, then why all the fuss?
I know ... I know ... both sides are tired of the lies. Okay, let's say I buy that fish from you ... which I won't, as it's a lie both sides tell themselves and believe.
If you are just tired of the lies then why not just ignore them? After all, they are lies to you, so how could they possibly have any sway unless you are uncertain of your own beliefs?
And if you are strong in your own beliefs and worry over others being misguided, then you are considering the others around you too weak to resist, and see your own crusade as a fight to protect their belief (which happens to be the same as you).
As such, by protecting those that think like yourself from the lies of those who think differently you keep your belief alive by keeping its fanbase alive.
None of us want to confess to this behavior and many will downright deny it and demand proof ... but all I am saying is that you are comfortable around people who think like you do and uncomfortable around those who don't ... so you want to keep your group untouched, as they add strength to your belief by sharing it.
Consider this ... evolution vs. creationism ... stave the arguments and just go with it a second ... I'll be fair and take this to both tables.
Let's say an evolutionist comes up with something that flat out proves creationism is a lie and every creationist but you buys into it? Now, you are left as the only one who believes in creationism ... Alone with your beliefs, how would you feel?
Now, turn the tables. Creationism comes up with something that totally disproves evolution and all of the evolutionists except you convert over. Alone ... again ... How would that make you feel?
As human beings we all try to fit into a niche and we feel threatened when that niche is threatened. Case in point ... the statement that blond women are all idiots (I don't buy this one, but it's a stereotype that has been overplayed).
Now, who gets the most angered over this one? Intelligent blond women, of course, as their existence obviously proves this statement to be untrue.
However, this does not mean one can't dig up some women who are blond and lack smarticles ... for that matter, we could dig up blond men, redhead men and women, etc, that fit the mold. Why do we pick on blonds? It really doesn't matter. Fact is, if you attack this group, they will angrily respond. This is human nature.
Even I played the game, defending evolution to the hilt, until I had a revelation ...
If person A believes evolution is a lie, does that make it untrue for me? Nope! Do I need to convert person A to my belief to believe it myself? Nope! Do I need to stop person A from converting others? Nope!
My belief is safe so long as I chose to keep believing it. If I wind up wrong someday then that mistake only reflects on me as I am no longer preaching evolution. I believe in it for myself and allow others to believe as they chose to believe.
I don't need person A to change their view to confirm mine. In fact, I need person A to believe differently to give my view substance. For if there is no oppositional view then there is no longer a need for scientists to continue their efforts to prove my viewpoint conclusively.
And what if it is actually *disproved* some day. Well ... if they scientist that I hold in high regard some day all shake their heads and say evolution was wrong then I will have to accept it.
Same goes for creationism ... If God comes down from a mountain one day and says he never created the Earth then christians would have to accept it. I'm not saying that would ever happen - just citing that no christian would refute the word of God if it were given.
So, if it is pointless to argue our beliefs then why bother having a religion forum? My thoughts? As a check and balance ...
If someone says something in the religious forum that makes you stop and ponder your beliefs for a moment then that reexamination makes the whole forum worthwhile.
Please note, reexamination does not equate to changing one's beliefs ... it equates to looking at them deeply to see if your beliefs are sound. In some cases, a reexamination can strengthen your beliefs ... in others, it can cause you to consider joining the other team.
Regardless, arguments neither bolster nor deny one's beliefs. It's those calmly offered statements that jolt the gears ...
Such as ... Isn't it odd that evolved species live today beside creatures they evolved from? and ... Why would God save the dinosaurs from the great flood and change the Earth in such a dramatic way to make them become extinct?
Now ... I'm not asking for answers from either side as I have already heard logical reasoning given for both questions. The point is that there are many unanswered questions that lead to explanations ... and those create more questions.
Both atheists and religionists constantly question things, but atheists question the world around them while religionists question the spirit within.
Which spends their time more wisely? I'm afraid one would have to pass to the other side for a few years and return if we are ever to get any certain answers, but I don't see that ever happening.
So, we chose to argue to secure our beliefs and we tell ourselves otherwise we lie to ourselves - not others - as one who is secure in their beliefs has nothing to argue over as their belief can't be swayed and they don't need others to believe to keep their belief alive.
The Flat Earth Theory is my favorite gift to prove my point, as both atheists and religionists today believe that the world is round, and yet, there was a time that both groups believed it to be flat.
The flat Earthers and the round Earthers fought and fought, each unable to fully disprove each other, until finally, one day the debate was resolved thoroughly for both sides.
'I'm right and you're wrong' couldn't end the debate ... it took substantial physical proof for all to accept the truth and now the rest of us accept it without the need to prove it to ourselves anymore.
It all sounds so silly, but there were hundreds of reasons given that the world *must* be flat and the round Earth theory was given to be desperate and full of holes.
The greatest scientists of the ancient world had proven the Earth to be flat and that the sun revolved around the Earth, so how could they be proven wrong?
Thankfully, modern man continues to question and confirm everything it possibly can. As such, many more truths will be discovered as our lineage goes on, and until then, we won't know what those truths will be.
As such, unless we are the ones out there in the field making the discoveries ourselves then it is best we believe what we believe and allow others to do the same ... as not one of us is arguing with facts we have accumulated ourselves. Instead, we are backing up our views with the research of others, which we believe to be true as their research fits in with our beliefs.
Who here spoke to Moses personally? Who here saw a live T-Rex? Yes, we have the Bible which contains the words of Moses and we have the bones of T-Rex that say it lived. But do we have more than that?
Sadly, we as common folk do not ... Beyond what we are told we only have our choice in what we will believe in ... and anything an individual chooses to believe is undeniable truth to that particular individual.
And so ... if Mark wants to believe in evolution, then I stand by his right to do so. And if Thetruthhurts wants to believe in creationism then I back up his right. I even back up the right of those who want to believe in a young Earth.
All I ask ... allow me to keep my beliefs and don't call them lies. Say my facts don't add up or that you can refute them ... but beliefs are not lies, so long as I speak of them from my own mouth to express what I believe ... as they are not lies to me.
In return, I will offer the same respect.- Denno66posted 13 years ago0
- cosetteposted 13 years ago0
"positively negative".
'k, that is deep. i love that! - sneakorocksolidposted 13 years ago0
Send the atheists and liberals to Canada! Problem solved! Next problem!
Can you change a destination to Mexico? It's too cold in Canada. Pretty please?
- sneakorocksolidposted 13 years ago0
You two can stay as long as Cole bakes some serious brownies and Misha brings some of those little dolls inside of dolls.
Ps- I know that might be sexist Cole so if you don't like it bite me! Thanks Sneako. Do you mean me under Cole's skirt when you mentioned dolls inside of dolls? That's easy.
She looks like a wild cat to me but if you got the nuts I got the camera!
- Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago0
- Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago0
Well i don't believe there are two sides.
- Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago0
True Brenda! True.
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