If Jesus was companions to sinners and criminals, then why do Christians demoral

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   Lady Guinevereposted 10 years ago

   If Jesus was companions to sinners and criminals, then why do Christians demoralize them?
   
   Jesus was always around these peoples, the sinners and the criminals and the tax collectors, the poor and homeless in his day and even dined with them.  Why do Christians shun these people?  Jesus did not threaten them with annihition in a firey place.  He loved them for who they were.

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   Team Wisemanposted 10 years ago

   I would say that not all Christians are this way but the large amount that is this way have a religion and not a relationship with Christ.
   
   Great Question

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for your answer.

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   lone77starposted 10 years ago

   True Christians don't.
   
   Only those who hold ego as their master will reject the poor and the ill. When Jesus said that public generosity is evil, he was talking about ego.
   
   Jesus loved the sinners, because they were humble and wanted to change.
   
   The sinners who thought they were not sinners (those who judged others) were arrogant and lazy. They thought they had salvation all sewed up. Jesus said that salvation is not for the 'saved" or "righteous" (those who think they know it all).

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I thought you died a few months back.  Yes, I like this answer.

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   WalterPoonposted 10 years ago

   QUOTE: "If Jesus was companions to sinners and criminals, then why do Christians demoralize them?"
   
   Lady Guinevere, I don't see any contradiction. Jesus was never a Christian.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      This was not about Jesus being a Christian but about Christian being Christ-like and treating others with respect and not judging and damning them to hell and using the Bible as a sword.

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      d.williamposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      LG is right but i like your answer anyway. Many Christians really think that J.C. was in fact a Christian and not a Jew

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly d.williams.  I agree too.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      When people say they base their religion around Yahshua (Jesus) then they should walk as he did. It has nothing to do with Yahshua being a Christian

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      WalterPoonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Lady Guinevere, I still see no contradictions. What the Christians believe to be Christ-like is NOT what Jesus was like, LOL.

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   Jisblessedposted 10 years ago

   Christians who demoralize sinners doesn't understand the message of Grace which is salvation to all. He knew He would be dying for the whole world so in His eternal vision He saw the whole world saved, redeemed. And knew we couldn't see that way so he demonstrated what we were to come to know and do. Sadly, a lot of us still have not yet gotten the revelation. We all are saved, just have to receive the free gift of salvation. And that requires some understanding and belief on each person's part in receiving.
   
   When we know a truth and others don't know it, we act differently than they and they have a hard time understanding us. Just like they did Jesus. He knew from the foundation of the  world and some of us is just learning. So we must encourage other Believers/Christians to know the Truth until we come in the unity of the faith of Jesus.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your wonderful blessed comment.

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   d.williamposted 10 years ago

   Somehow christianity turned away from 'turn the other cheek', 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone', and 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' - to the modern day version of  "judge others and do unto them before they do unto you"; or as the tea party Governor of Maine just stated of his opponent yesterday - sticking it to everyone without using any vaseline. 
   Our leaders make their own rules to suit themselves.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with this.  I was told by someone that those Christians have a right to use the Bible as a sword.  Jesus said no such thing.  They make it up as they go along.

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   sheilamyersposted 10 years ago

   We, as Christians shouldn't condone or support the sins or the crimes. Our job is to reach out to the people who are sinning and try to help them turn their lives around. Telling someone they're going to Hell because they're living in sin isn't going to change most people's minds (especially if they don't believe in Hell). They're only going to change if they're shown the alternatives to what they feel is the only solution to their problem. That's what Jesus did and that's what we're supposed to do.
   
   You said "he loved them for who they were". That is partly true and partly false. True because he loved and respected them as human beings. False because he never "loved" the sin they were committing.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      So how would you punish the si and not the person who committed it?  Jesus never said that he was or has taken anyone to hell for what they believed.  He only stated they are  to go and sin no more.  I don't think that he counted any of their sins

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      Deborah Sextonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      He said he came not  to judge them
      Yahshua did not Judge God did and does
      John 5:30
      I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
      We ar

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      BrendaJames2posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      He loved them for exactly who they were, but told them to "go and sin no more" As in the case of Mary
      John 8:11
      She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
      Mary seemed to love him the most

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   Ann810posted 10 years ago

   Because Christ couldn't be tempted, but we humans are tempted and the bad of another person can rub off on the so called good person. That's the Lord's prayer, ask that we don't fall into temptation; our daily prayer.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      He was tempted but did not give in to temptation. There would be no lesson if there was no temptation
      Mark 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

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      WalterPoonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Deborah, you are right. There would be no lesson if there was no temptation. Isn't that why we need Satan to be around?

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   cat on a soapboxposted 10 years ago

   As with any group of people, there will be some bad apples that mischaracterize the very nature of it's purpose. True Christians don't shun sinners, the poor, and homeless. In fact, churches and people of faith spend much time ministering to these groups and encouraging them to accept God's love and salvation. That being said, each individual has a choice in his destiny: to turn life around w/ help or to stay mired in misery. In Christian faith, Jesus spoke in parables to enlighten men rather than in judgmental tones while bellowing hellfire and brimstone. He died so that man would be forgiven of sin. Make no mistake, the message is clear that this means accepting Him as your Savior and relinquishing a life of willful sin to live in obedience to God.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      What if you never heard of Jesus or the Bible?  Didn't Jesus also die for them or are they damned to eternal hell because they no no difference?

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      cat on a soapboxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Great question!   "And that slave who knew his master's will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, shall receive many lashes, but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. And from ev

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      What version of what Bible is that from because I did a search in a few Bibles and did not come up with that.  Jesus said that??

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      cat on a soapboxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      It is from Luke 12:47-48. Reading from 12:45, Jesus
      describes punishment to hypocritical "masters" or leaders and that of the innocent ones.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Those are rules for slaves they had back then.  We are not slaves and we don't get stripes.  This is 1 reason we don't have slaves in our country anymore.  It also has nothing to do with accepting him as your savior.

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      cat on a soapboxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The parable describes slavery but the issue concerns servant and master. In Christian life, believers are to forgo self-importance and humbly serve God as their Master. God is Master over all including  the arrogant and the willfully cruel.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus said the the laws are inside the minds of mankind and that everything in the Kingdom of God are within us.  We have no choice but to serve the God inside of us.  U cannot serve 2 masters..EGO or GOD. Those serving EGO will never understand GOD

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      WalterPoonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Who created ego, if not God?

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      Deborah Sextonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      He spoke in parables so only his would understand
      Matt 13
      10  And the disciples came, and said unto himWhy speakest thou unto them in parables?
      11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of he

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    Deborah Sextonposted 10 years ago

    A lot of people are very arrogant  and think they are in a better spiritual place than others

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    BrendaJames2posted 10 years ago

    Our church welcomes all people. The pastor's wife gets our group together and we go and fellowship with the just types you are speaking of. It is a time when we witness to them and testify of God

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    suzettenaplesposted 9 years ago

    True Christians do not look down their nose at these people you describe.  It is people's and church's hubris, egos and insecurity that cause them to behave so horribly towards these peoples - the homeless, the sinners, the criminals, the poor.  All of them were loved by Christ and he was so inclusive in his love for everyone.  People who shun these people are exclusive in their love and push others out.  it is sad that most people don't follow Christ's teachings - it would be a far different world than the one we live in.

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    tarheposted 9 years ago

    Oh, the simple answer is that Jesus wasn't a Christian!

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    davidkalugeposted 9 years ago

    Who do they preach to if they demoralize sinners? Jesus said, the healthy don't need a doctor.

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