How is it possible that the Bible predicts the events of world history hundreds of years in advance?
The Bible translated into Greek hundreds of years BC predicts the fall of the Babylonian Empire to the Persians, Greeks and finally the Romans. How is this possible without an omnipresent God?
Precisely. The conclusion is simple. The only logical explanation seems to be that God spoke through the Bible and predicted such events.
The thought realm is eternal. Everything has already happened. It happens first on the invisible plane or 4th dimension and then materializes in the 3rd dimension later. Everything happens in the spirit world first.
Based on...? Where do you get this perspective?
Thoughts are invisible and they already exist. Ask yourself, where are thoughts? This is basic spiritual knowledge easily confirmed by seeing things into existence. Any book on thoughtforms or thought vibrations. See: The Astral Body by A.E. Powell
I would agree that thoughts come from a mind, which is not just a mere reaction of brain waves...there is a spiritual aspect to them. I am not disagreeing either that there is a spirit world, but I don't see how everything has already happened there.
In order for something to happen here, there has to be a blueprint in the invisible because everything begins there. That means it already exists before we can see it. We don't know when it will appear on this side because time is an illusion here.
Where do you get this perspective? Where has this thought that something happens in an invisible realm first then transmits here?
There are many many instances of life imitating art, not just the Bible. In fact, materialization of Bible prophecy is highly debatable and vague. But I repeat...life imitates art all the time.
Many Bible prophecies are extremely precise and clear eg the prophecy from Daniel in the original question.
Some things turn out to be good predictions, but not because the prognosticator is necessarily influencing the outcome or that this outcome is predisposed to take place.
There are a lot of predictions. Some come true, others do not. If I make one hundered reasonable predicitons, I'd get a certain percentage correct. If we only focus on what I got correct then it appears I have an amazing skill. Especially if I happen to be right about some thing I could never know. When we realize that I was only technically correct 2% of the time, it seems pretty average. The percentage would be even higher depending on the length of time and subject to be predicted about.
They say Nostradamus was correct on only about 5 % of his predictions (not even totally correct on most). Put another way, he was wrong at least 95% of the time. Still, many people base their beliefs on his predictions. Taken out of context, any prediction could be made to fit most situations. It can be hard to not let the prediction flex a bit to make it fit our current circumstance.
The Jetsons made many predictions too. Perhaps even with more accuracy. Ever see the Matrix? You know the part where he knocks over the vase....that's one very intriguing way to look at this type of thing. Another would be for you to look at current events around the world and place an educated guess on how they will play out. I'm sure you'll get some right but highly doubt anyone will claim you are divine.
So, the Jetsons were correct on as many predictions as the Bible? I don't follow. The general populous does not have flying cars, floating buildings, or talking robots who are have AI... perhaps this is still a prediction yet to come.
Many were accurate. Like the Bible, some wrong/right. If I say N. Korea will fall to the US in a few hundred years and it does, is it an omnipresent God? Why not? God not involved anymore? Point is, it didn't HAVE to be God. It is possible w/o. Very.
Maybe the Bible is not predictions at all. Maybe it's the revealing of plans that have yet to be carried out, giving us a chance to prepare rather than react. Either we believe it or play the cards we are dealt. Just food for thought.
IDONO, interesting perspective. Cre8tor, the situation is that many Biblical prophecies are precise and have come to pass. Also, which prophecies of the Bible did not come to pass that were within a given timeline?
Well, depending on your denomination or version of Bible, the 2nd coming has been late a couple of times right off the top of my head. I suppose you also have to consider what's parable and what's not. This usually tends to fit the need though.
There is actually a Bible that can be followed (and known); just b/c some people follow something wrong does not mean that nothing is right. Also, you are thinking of cults, not denominations. When the 2nd coming happens we will all know.
It is not. This is just another example of how the Bible was written through divine intervention.
I am amazed that myself.
Quite a few of those events in the bible are now repeating themselves.
The only logical explanation is Jesus told what will unfold then and now and years from now.
He holds our life in his hands.
It is quite amazing though. I wish I could prophecy years from now.
Aliens manipulating history?
I'm kidding. Of course, God is omniscient, but He is also loving enough to allow free will. What that means is that not every little detail can be predicted. Some people can change their minds. But God can help those who have hardened their hearts against Him to do the things that the Bible foretells. Like Christ knew that Judas would betray him. He picked the self-centered, self-obsessed follower for that very purpose.
Modern Israel was needed before the events of Revelations could unfold, and it seems that the Holocaust was a major part of that. And now, we've had the Great Star named "Wormwood" spread its pestilence across a third of the world, back in 1986. Ukrainian for "wormwood" is "Chernobyl." And a star is a nuclear reactor of small (not-great) elements like hydrogen and helium, while Chernobyl used great (heavy) elements. So, Revelations implies nuclear physics. Who would've thought this until the nuclear age?
The problem with biblical prophecy is it's vague and imprecise. Daniel talks about strange animals and statues made from different materials, and it's left to the reader to interpret based upon their knowledge of World events. Thus each generation through the centuries sees different events in those prophesies. For example everything that Jesus said in Matt 23-24 happened between Ad 70 and AD 135. But because most people don't study history they assume he was talking about 'End Times' 50-100 years from now.
If Daniel and Jesus actually named names such as Alexander, Hadrian, Constantine or gave specific dates, then the case that the prophesies are divinely inspired would be concrete.
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