Dead or In Heaven or Hell?

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   Lady Guinevereposted 10 years ago

   Dead or In Heaven or Hell?
   
   Some Christinas calim that when they die that is the end and they know or live no more.  Some of these very same Christians claim that they are going to heaven or hell or that others are going there.  How can you be dead to everything and still believe in a heaven and hell?  You cannot be both.  Purgotory is another one some say that you go too..
   
   

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   Buildrepsposted 10 years ago

   Every intelligent (non-programmed authentic self thinking) human being knows that is not true. Matter is an expression of the Soul. You are primary a unique divine Soul, and secondary Lady Guinevere.
   
   You had countless lives before this, and you will have many lives after this, until you have become God yourself. From that point you don't need the material expression anymore.
   
   Every Soul has the unstoppable desire to evolve towards the Omega point - towards divinity. To become God itself. This counts for humans, for every plant, animal, even for every stone, and every single atom.
   
   Dead or In Heaven or Hell? There might be 'voids' where a Soul can get stuck for a long time. A Soul stuck in a void cannot express itself into material form, and has therefore no ability to develop consciousness, ergo to evolve towards the Omega point. In the Universe everything is dynamic, even for the temporary voids, that Christians call 'hell'.
   
   Time is something that doesn't exist for Souls. Souls are eternal and indestructible, which means that a Soul that 'got stuck' in a void, will 'come out' one day and continue its progression towards its own divinity.
   
   It's nothing to be afraid of.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Like the stuck between a rock and a hard place.  Eventually something happens to get you out from that place.  Been there many times and always got out of it.  They are temporary.  Yes I know that I have lived many lives before.

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      Make Moneyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I thought you were asking about what Christians think Lady Guinevere?  Not about Hinduism, Gaiya, New Age or what ever that is that Buildreps described.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Make Money, I did not see your comment.  Sorry. Jesus was all for New Age and he taught many things that the Hindu's taught in relatioships to one another andhow to treat others.  St Issa is Jesus In India.

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   Lowdown0posted 10 years ago

   If a person is really a Christian, they believe in an eternal heaven and and an eternal hell. No-one spoke about it more than Jesus Christ himself.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Who can tell who is a "REAL" Christian.  Jesus did speak that it was all WITHIN you.

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      Rich kelleyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You will know them by their fruit.

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   Stargrrlposted 10 years ago

   A Christian will tell you that it is right there in the bible, the inspired word of God.  Jesus spoke of it often.  Read the New Testament.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      And when I or anyone else that you have a problem iwht does, you ignore it.So what is the point?  Have alovely day Stargrrl, Autumn Sunchine, Lybrah, and now Rainbow.

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      Stargrrlposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I seriously think you have a problem.  Who are all those people?  Why can't you be civilized?

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   J - R - Fr13m9nposted 10 years ago

   What I am trying to understand in your question, Lady Guinevere, is this: Are you expecting that the Christians you know of to follow one belief or is it that you are self questioning yourself as to what should you believe?
   
   By the way I favor your name Guinevere since my mother called me that when I was a toddler.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I am just wondering why they say they are dead, not doing anything but growing grass on their graves, and then say that there is a heaven or hell to go to.

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   Say Yes To Lifeposted 10 years ago

   Various Christian denominations have diverse views.  Some believe you go straight to heaven or hell when you die.  Others, like the Seventh Day Adventists, believe you sleep in your grave until Christ's Second Coming, at which time you're resurrected to go to your eternal destiny.  I understand it is the Catholics who believe in purgatory, a temporary hell where people stay until they learn their lesson and can then enter heaven.
   Hindu based religions believe in reincarnation, that the soul never dies but simply enters other bodies until Nirvana is achieved and the cycle of rebirth is broken.
   Since no one has all the answers, it is not our place to judge anyone.

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   gmwilliamsposted 10 years ago

   
   
   The idea of where one goes in the afterlife varies among Christians depends upon their particular denomination.  It also depend upon the belief, outlook, purview, and/or ideology of the individual Christian.  A few of the more liberal & universalist Christian denominations do not believe in an afterlife at all. They maintain that the good or bad one does is remembered by family, friends &/or associates, there is no eternal recompense nor punishment for such actions.  Other liberal & universalist Christian denominations maintain that there is an afterlife when most will go to heaven & only the most debased will go to hell.  There are some among them who strongly refute the idea of hell.
   
   The more conservative, traditional, & fundamentalist Christian denominations believe that there is DEFINITELY an afterlife. They strong exhort that people will go to heaven or hell based upon how they lived their earthly lives.  There are those among them who even believe that the majority of people are damned & will end up in hell with only a minute few will go to heaven. 
   
   Some more liberal & universalist Christians believe that once people die, their consciousness cease.  They contend that their good deeds will be remembered by their family & associates.  Others maintain that most people will go to heaven except for those who are most degenerate.  A few among them contend that all will go to heaven with some being forgiven for their actions. 
   
   Conservative, traditional, & fundamentalist Christians argue that there is an afterlife of heaven & hell where people will go based upon their life choices.  They vehemently avow that those who lived right/moral lives will receive their just reward while those who live immoral/sinful/duplicitous lives will end up in hell.  There are others who assert that most people are wicked & unworthy anyway  & will end up in hell while only a few righteous will receive their heavenly rewards.

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