Why is it more comfortable to make things up about people of Different beliefs?
There have been a rash of questions and answers lately from people (mainly self professing Christians) asking why atheists hate God, etc. Rather than listening to what atheists day and explain about themselves and how they view the world, it seems that some believers would rather make blatant assumptions and outright lies about atheists, becoming argumentative when an answer doesn't seem to be what they want to hear. I've seen some atheists do the same. Why ask a question if you just want to argue with whatever answer doesn't line up with your views or simply invent lies about others?
I noticed many non-believers do the same thing and not just some. I think it is all based on assumptions such as Christians hating atheists and atheists hating Christians. Is somebody posts a question, the person answering should answer as honestly and respectfully and he can. Then the asker shouldn't twist the answers words around.
I agree. I think that if a person defines hatred as anything that disagrees or opposes their view, it's a very narrow and troublesome definition that can lead to unnecessary conflict.
JM: You know scripture says "You can't serve 2 masters, you either love the one or hate the other..." Lk 16:13. That's a believer's definition of "hate!" Why take it out of proportion? Remember the question came from a believer!
Frankly I thank you for this opportunity to ask my view. Who is an atheist? from the Greek language any one who say this no God, A- Theo (A - makes the noun negative in the case of Theo who is God)
By whom is that person sustained by himself? or somebody beyond or above him? I want to ask him/her where is his/her breath coming from or where is his/her thoughts coming from ? I believe he/she know how the computer hard drive works, if human being have gotten this idea from the manufacturer of their souls how come will anyone there is no GOD? I want ask atheist does he/she birth to a children and his/her child tell she/he has no Father or mother how will she/he feel? Look at the plant around they are reproducing after their kind and animals are doing so the God who made us is a Father like him and will demand his respect from all his creatures.
Does the believer in the Only true God breath a different air from the one who does not believes in this true God? Atheist is only being conceited and led astray from the common truth which makes all men free. It is my prayer that every atheist will come to the knowledge of the truth and be free now in the name of JESUS CHRIST the only son of God.
Your definition is incorrect. Without gods, not the assertion that there is no God. The test of your answer is an irrelevant appeal to ignorance. This is not an open forum for apologetics gymnastics.
J, this is your way of being a voice of reason? U want people 2 take what u say seriously, then I suggest u respect others beliefs and not be disrespectful
1. it did not answer the question. 2. It was a fallacy. Several of them. 3. I never claimed to be a voice of reason. 4. I do not have to respect beliefs in order to respect those who hold them. 5. My questions are not open pulpits. Next?
Hey, I just thought maybe u were wondering why u attract those that stir up trouble. Flies r attracted 2 one thing and if u keep producing it they will keep coming
This answer didn't stir up trouble. It just didn't answer the question. If you're trying to stir up trouble, it's not working. :-)
U answered rudely. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Just giving u a clue to your question
If pointing out bad logic and expecting people who bother to answer to actually answer the question rather than go completely off topic by preaching with multiple fallacies is rude, I can't help you.
I agree Julie - why is it being "rude" for you, but calling atheists conceited and implying we need to be prayed for not? I guess I don't understand why Christians aren't rude if they call us out, but we are if we do it? double standards.
I actually did miss the "conceited" part. My apologies
A lot of people who function from the ego feel a need to belittle others rather than try to understand them. It gives them a sense of importance at another person's expense.
We live in a modern world where self-obsession is rampant and I think for some; it has eroded the willingness or ability to simply be able to agree to disagree, or to promote tolerance etc.
I think as more secular ideas take hold there will be a lot of push back from those who are hardline religious. I hope where we land is somewhere in the middle. There are many devout people who are still able to be respectful of others - I have many of them in my family. They take comfort in their beliefs and they are decent human beings. In no way would I want to infringe on their ability to believe what they see fit.
There are also those of us who are not religious who are willing to reach out and befriend those who are. We are not the ones posting mocking billboards and other such crap that hardline atheists do, despite the fact we all tend to get lumped together.
Militant atheists and hardline religious folks, despite being loud, are the fringe I truly believe that. Sadly, most people accept the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't represent Christianity as a whole, but it seems to be easier to lump all atheists together and paint us all as "sinners" or lacking moral fiber etc etc. I hope we move past that and I honestly think in time we will.
Most people one on one don't give a rats behind what you believe when they first meet you. They assess you by your character and how you treat them. If we could all just focus on that - wouldn't the world be so much better?
Dunno, but I find it interesting how I always seem to come across those that enjoy deleting my comments so they can pretend I was trolling or being rude just so they can look better. Mind you this is after me correcting them after they invent some random BS about what i said or believe.
Or better yet, they delete the whole topic so no one can go back and look at the comments, yet complain in a different topic about me being a troll or rude with nothing to actually show for it.
Happened again just yesterday, which is why I take snapshots of the comments and replies now. I like to cover my bases on the off chance it ever actually becomes a problem.
When you direct a question to a "believer," then expect an answer from the Word of God! We believe in Jesus and His Words! Since you are a non-believer, any and everything we respond to you from scripture (which is our belief) will offend you! So why do you continue to address questions to theists unless you love being argumentative?
You ask us why we (as "self professing Christians," which I do not proclaim, thereby "making blatant assumptions and outright lies about "this" theists), ask why atheists "hate" God. Since you asked theist, (I can't speak for others), I can only tell you what "I" believe, which is the Word of God!
First of all, the definition for "hate" (according to the Word of God) is found in both Matthew 6:24 and Luke 16:13 which say, "No man can serve two masters; for either he will "hate" the one, and love the other;,,," Therefore, our definition of "hate" is a non-believer, one that does not believe that the Lord is his Master! According to our belief, Atheists "hate" God for you believe there is no God, based on the above scriptures!
Therefore, I ask you, "Why ask a question if you just want to argue with whatever answer doesn't line up with you views (the scriptures which you do not believe) or simply invent lies about others?"
Now, that may not be "your" or Atheist's definition of "hate" but that is a believer's definition!
Remember your audience when addressing a question and maybe the responses won't be so controversial! (Unless you just enjoy arguing?)
Because nuking the you-know-what out of an army of straw men is easier than being a good listener and hearing someone's reasons for their differing beliefs. It's easier and more convenient (i.e. "pro-lazy") to make up your own reasons for why someone disagrees with you than to hear what the real ones are.
That's why you get those Christians who think every atheist is just an angry juvenile-at-heart who's "mad at god". That's why you get atheists who think every Christian is allergic to science and thinks the earth is 6,000 years old. That's why you get people like Obama who think that a terrorist working with the "ISLAMIC State" couldn't possibly have any ties to "true" Islam. That's why you get the Muslims who think the only reason Americans and Westerners could possibly take issue with the doctrines of Islam is because we're just a bunch of xenophobic Allah-hating infidels.
These people don't ask questions to learn something. They just want to validate the narrative that they've already decided must be true. The other person, unfortunately, has no lines in that narrative.
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