"As a genralization of people you have talked to here in the forums, who seems to be the happiest group, Creationist's or Atheist's?"
Not all people who believe in God are creationists. And you can't go just by someone's behaviour on an Internet forum if you want to assess how happy they are. (Although maybe you can spot the really *unhappy* people from some of the stuff they write.)
A very good point. However, one could argue (I'm trying to remain neutral here) that those who are unhappy and search for an outer source become happier when they find that outer source. After all, one could argue that an believer is an athiest who was unhappy with just leaving questions hanging and needed something to grab hold of.
Difficult question. I suspect that having the burden of eternal damnation hanging over your every move, every spoken word, every action seems like a very unhappy existence.
Having to obey and worship the invisible and undetectable seems like a very stressful condition, especially when the god in question is most demanding and vengeful. If he doesn't like what you're doing, a pillar of salt you become.
Believing in magic means that anything could happen at any given moment where the physical laws of the universe are meaningless.
I can't imagine anyone deriving happiness from this situation. It's more like living on the edge of a giant razor blade.
I would think atheists would be happier. Atheists have no "truth" that the sub-conscious mind knows is a lie. This must play havoc with the inner self, something that is evident in these religious posts!
Oh come on Ernest, "Atheists have no "truth" that the sub-conscious mind knows is a lie" is a ridiculous statement to make, I could make equally irrelevant statements about atheists....
I have never had any doubts about the truth I know, for I have been in filled by the Holy Spirit and seen Him at work in peoples lives.
I do not dispute that there are many 'armchair' Christians who maybe have doubts, who have never had a Holy Spirit encounter and therefore cannot truly say they know the truth, because they have not me the truth.
I'm happy, even when things look bad, because I know who I believe in and He is sufficient for all things.
I stand by what I said. The sub-concious knows it's a lie. That is why religionists have to "externalize" their beliefs to try to make others believe. it helps to still the inner voice that keeps whispering "This is crud!"
I deal with my beliefs daily, and change then daily in the light of better information. Must be uncommon as it is often called the road least travelled. Religionists are indoctrinated. You could never belief religion if left to your own devices other than the "lizard brain" sending out fear signals that is! Religionists are afraid of any reasonable truths and would rather believe in anything than confront their fear.
Yes I can, no church upbringing. Mom took me to my first church after I would not let the subject die. At 13 years of age I saw a movie on tv about Jesus, I was curious and did not let it go. I was raised without ever hearing about religions at all. My friends were from non-religious families. Not that had many friends.
your subconcious lies to you , because there is no truth in you!!!if the truth was in you , then you would understand.i have ask you be4 what you beleive and you wont say you just attack every body else
You mean because of what they choose not to believe they are generally happier? (Mind you, when the two are both slowly dieing I would think they are both equally happy because an Atheist will change his mind and turn Christian quite often.) They do say ignorance is bliss though, don't they?
I have to disagree. I think promised rewards for believing are promotional tools used by religion to get believers. I think a person should do good simply for good rather than in expectation of a favored afterlife. If they want to believe they get a favored afterlife and it motivates them to do good, so be it. I do disagree with religion or anyone else claiming the absolute of knowing what happens at death until they are dead.
What I don't understand is, why is it every single time, a believer posts something the non-believers will flock to the post? Then in said post they'll make sure to practically shoot anyone down who believes in something.
I dunno, if you atheists are so much 'happier' shouldn't you be going out and doing awesome atheist things?
By the way; not all believers are a like, Earnest. You wouldn't like it if I said that all atheists subconsciously believe that there is a God, would you?
I would not mind at all. It is true to some extent. Religiosity is hard wired to overcome the fear of death, but it can be understood as fear when we learn enough psychology to see how it works. Daylight in a dark place. We can deal with it if we try.
And to answer the question; I don't think ANY of them are happier. They're both too busy bickering at each other, and not being useful. Ex: Christians helping people, and the atheists...erm, helping people/having fun.
No, I take that back. Pagan creationists seem to be happier. They don't seem to hang around much and bicker. Not that I've noticed.
I believe that a person can sometimes be too open minded; meaning that one moment they can be a Christian creationist, then the next an atheist; then the next week a pagan; next week a pagan creationist.
There comes a time when you have to truly examine your faith (or lack there of) and settle it once and for all.
I think there are too many emotions tied into most faith based beliefs making it nearly impossible to debate beliefs in a logical manner. I also think most are dependent on a belief title or non belief title when simply claiming individual belief does the trick.
Ernesto, ya know I luvs ya, but I have to tell ya - I'm an extremely happy person! I just don't worry about a whole lot. I try to turn it over to God for the things I can't solve on my own. And no, I'm not some simple-minded idiot. I've held positions with very important responsibilities, and I was efficient and successful in carrying them out. I'm talking about things I have no control over.
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