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Shop at Walmart and Support Aethism

  1. MikeNV profile image71
    MikeNVposted 7 years ago

    If you are a Christian or of any Faith that Believes in GOD then every time you probably ought to rethink your patronage of Walmart.

    China is a communist country and communism is Anti God.

    Walmart strong arms suppliers into outsourcing production to China.

    Walmart was caught paying a Chinese Company to sew "Made in the USA" tags onto clothing.

    Walmart strong arms local communities into special tax treatment.

    Walmart provides low pay and low benefits and has been caught several times in several states making workers work "off the clock".

    Walmart is ANTI GOD.

    You can not have it both ways.  You can not support Communism and be Pro God.  It's just that simple.

    When you lose sight of your Spiritual Beliefs to support a business practice you are an abomination in the eyes of God.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I clicked on this to write "hehe" till I read your second sentence. Interesting blurb (not being sarcastic)

    2. Shadesbreath profile image86
      Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Did you get this out of an old McCarthy era book or something?  I think you need to update your library.

      1. TMMason profile image63
        TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        McCarthy was right.

        Look at us now.

        He would be laughing his drunk ass off around the poker table, kikin back shots, making even more lewd remarks about how he told us so.

        But, in the end.

        He was right.

        The Venona files prove that.

        Not to metion all the socailist, commy lovers, and communists in our govt. right now.

        http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ … ndex.shtml

        Maybe we should just shut our borders and be self sufficiant for the next 50 to 100 years, and leave the world to itself.

        Then they will all cry for America to come and help them once again.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          In the words of Carol Burnett, My sides, please stop

          1. TMMason profile image63
            TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Say that after you read through the N.S.A. wire taps.

            It isn't as funny as anyone would like it to be.

            I wish it were a joke. But unnfortunately, we can see the consequences of ignoring and his warnings today.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I didn't look at the link, but if it is about the FACT that the NSA is wiretapping normal, everyday Americans, then I'd say you have cause to be worried... because that is definitely the behaviour of a Communist state.

        2. Shadesbreath profile image86
          Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You do know that when you put your hands over your eyes, people can still see you, right?

        3. William R. Wilson profile image60
          William R. Wilsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          TM, these files are from 1940 to 1950.  If you remember, for a big portion of that time we were at war with Hitler and allied with Stalin. 

          Where exactly in those files (sorry, I'm not going to comb through them) is there evidence that McCarthy's claims were correct?  I'm not talking about generalized evidence of espionage - we all know that was going on.  I'm talking about specific claims made by McCarthy that are supported by the documents you link here.

    3. DogSiDaed profile image61
      DogSiDaedposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is that an unwritten verse in the bible? wink

    4. IntimatEvolution profile image80
      IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I personally know the Laurie's and Kronke's, and this is so full of horse crap.  They are very good, kind, and giving Christian people.  You obviously do not know them, cause I've never seen your face in our neighborhood, at social functions or at volunteer charity events.  When is the last time you golfed at Columbia Country Club?  Uh, never.  Get your facts straight before you start to slander a family's hard earned empire.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yadayadayada. It is pretty hard to take anything with the question "When is the last time you golfed at XXXXXXY Country Club?" seriously. Good God, don't you know there's a serious recession on?

    5. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you so very much for yet another completely wasteful thread.

      Just ducky. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Link?

  2. kirstenblog profile image75
    kirstenblogposted 7 years ago

    Wow!

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    Denno66posted 7 years ago

    Um, okay then.

    1. mega1 profile image79
      mega1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      tee hee

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Well it was Procter Gamble before wasn't it? Sheesh! What is our world coming too?

  5. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
    AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago

    Mind you, the rebuttal would be that just about all companies use Chinese suppliers these days. Maybe people should demand easier access or transparency to where their goods come from... China is hardly the only country perpetrating human rights abuses.

    1. Colebabie profile image59
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I was just gonna say that. Good luck finding a store to shop in that doesn't carry products from China.

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    The Paulposted 7 years ago

    It's a little twisted up, there.

    Jesus was a card-carrying commie and Wal-Mart is certainly a capitalist institution.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's a very interesting question all the same. Should a devout Christian not be putting pressure on WalMart given China's fairly rabid persecution of religious people? (Even as a question, it's interesting... I'm not saying they should or shouldn't

  7. Mitch Rapp profile image60
    Mitch Rappposted 7 years ago

    I just gotta know, do you religious types start these threads just to give the atheists ammunition?

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile (I don't think that guy is one of the religious types of which you speak, but point taken!)

    2. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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    Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

    I'll shop wherever I darn well pleased thank you.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No-one's telling you what to do, and, in any case, the things people accuse Walmart of are probably equally true for all shopping outlets (the large ones anyway), but where your goods come from does matter. Really. (Maybe not the country, but the conditions under which they were made, and so on)

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        Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yikes Adsense I just noticed that I can see you! lol nice pic! and yea I still will shop at Wal Mart no matter what ppl say about it. I have quite a few great friends working there and they do a lot of charities and things so I support my friends. And I like Wal Mart whether they sell things that are "Anti-God" or not...

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That is an old photo........

          I don't really care about the anti-God thing, and I don't really think boycotting stores does much. In fact, as a loyal customer, you have MORE power over them (and all the other places you shop). It is your right to know that what you buy is not made with child labour, right, for example. Don't stop shopping, just make sure you ask where the things you buy are made (and by whom, more importantly)

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            Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Why did you post an old pic? why not of one now so we can see you? smile sad

            And yea truthfully *looks around* I've been buying more from Target and the Dollar Tree than Wal Mart yikes lol

  9. TMMason profile image63
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    No.

    It is about the FACT that the N.S.A. had wiretaps proving McCarthy correct in his assertions.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'd say it is quite likely that in the 1950s there was a Communist attempt, or set of attempts, to take over America... there was this sort of attempt in all sorts of places (and it happened in many of them). But I think I am losing the point here. If that was true back then... keep going... or repeat what you wrote... I'm getting lost...

  10. kerryg profile image86
    kerrygposted 7 years ago

    I'd love to see the Christian Right boycott Walmart. I bet it would lose 90% of its customer base in some regions.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree. It would be cool to see, just as a spectator sport, aside from whether it *should* happen

  11. TMMason profile image63
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    And I talk to people in Arabia, Malaysia and Iran all the time. And I do not have a problem with the US Govt. listening to the calls.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, but it is not for you to say that the rest of the population of the US should or should not mind.

  12. TMMason profile image63
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    AD--- "But I think I am losing the point here. If that was true back then... keep going... or repeat what you wrote... I'm getting lost..."

    The point was the link was not about the NSA wiretaps today, but in the 50s. Which were repressed so as not to disturb FDR's relationship with, "Uncle Joe", Joeseph Stalin. uncle joe was FD's lil pet name for him.


    Cute of them, eh?

    And today you see the friut of the progressive tree as it rots the roots of our Country away. And you know what to do about root rot.

    You cut it out.

    Rnnin to twn, bbs

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So the point is that FDR kicked off, or is indirectly responsible for the Progressive movement (which seems reasonable), and that he was in cahoots with Stalin (sounds like a politician!), is that it? So, therefore a link can be drawn between the post-War American Progressive movement and Communism? Have I got you so far?

      If that is what you are saying, then it is not a completely insane statement, I guess.

      For me a problem with this line of thinking is that, while the Soviets called themselves "Socialists", in fact they were hardly champions of the common man! In fact they committed mass murder many times, and curtailed the freedoms of common people in many different ways. I mean, you don't have to like socialism, but socialism is supposed to be about helping the poor, and the downtrodden. If Communists claim to be socialists, I'd have to say, yeh right, frankly.

      Anyway, you don't have to like socialism, but I don't think the Communists were socialists, even though they claimed to be

      1. TMMason profile image63
        TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Actually the, kikin off, was woodrow wilson's claim to fame.

        As far as the rest. I agree with some.

        And, Sam Walton, started small.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          He did. I just said that. And in fact the one story I read about him sounded very interesting, to be honest.

  13. Dale Mazurek profile image61
    Dale Mazurekposted 7 years ago

    This is exactly why I stay out of the religion forums for the most part becuase I know it woould only take me a few hours before I was banned.

    Dale

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      ralwusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You really think you would last hours? LOL

  14. Cowboy Coasters profile image49
    Cowboy Coastersposted 7 years ago

    Shopping at Wal-Mart means you are smart and like to save money... It has nothing to do with religion.  But nice try.

  15. IntimatEvolution profile image80
    IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago

    Yeah, I do know.  Do be angry with me because my house is paid for, and I had no credit card debt.  I lost a husband to suicide you jerk.  His life insurance allowed me to keep my lifestyle for myself and my son.  What's your excuse..............

    I worked hard to get what I got.  I worked damn hard.  So hard that I saw my husband and son maybe 3x a month.  Then I found Bucky hanging with a note around neck. 

    Thank God, Thank God!  We had invested smart, never played hard (no gambling, excessive purchases), paid cash for our homes once we saved up the money, and had a successful life.  Don't fault me, for stupid people and their bad financial management practices.  How shallow.  I never spent beyond my means.  If I didn't have the f'cking cash to buy something, I did without and took the bus for YEARS.............  oh you jerk.

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      OK, what sort of answer would you expect from me to this. You have had an incredible personal tragedy, but how am I to know this? The Walmart family (is this who you were referring to) are probably really nice people (I have heard reports of this elsewhere), but because theirs is a gigantic organization, the rest of us have the right to know how they conduct their business. That's how it goes... when you have that much success, the rest of us have the right to know about it... it's a political issue. Large organizations should never be immune to scrutiny... that's how you get totalitarianism.

      I am sorry for your tragedy. You clearly conducted your affairs sensibly, and reaped the benefit. But I have no window into your life, let's face it. There are reports that Walmart uses subcontractors that pay people 10 cents an hour in the LOCAL CURRENCY equivalent. Maybe it's not true. But if I am concerned about these things, I have a right to explore the possibility that they are true.

      Either way, best wishes to you. But calling me a jerk is inappropriate for this forum

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image80
        IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        FLag me, you are still a jerk. And you know it.....  Your answer was total out of line.  And YOU know it.  So flag me. 

        What a jerk.  Blame me, blame me and people I know who are responsible, good, kind people- for America's recession.  Only a typical jerk thinks so irresponsibly.  REPORT ME!  Your thoughts on this subject matter, and the fact that YOU don't even KNOW these people, makes your opinion worthless air and a waste of space.  Shall I report you for wasting people's time?

        Don't be a jerk, and people won't call you a jerk. 

        If a bear shits in the woods, it's call bear poop.  If you're a jerk, you're a jerk. How is it that most people know this and you don't??????

        Nevermind.  YOu are a JERK!  Report me.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Look. I did not know that you had been through such a tragedy.

          How could I know that. I assure you that if I had known that then I probably would not have responded to your original post in the first place.

          I am a business-owner myself, so understand the relationship between hard work and success.

          The Waltons started small and worked their way up. I know this.

          The recession was the fault of greedy giant corporations in the FINANCIAL sector (so not Walmart). It was certainly not the fault of private individuals like yourself.

          America was ripped off by a few individual financial groups. Period.

          Anyway, please just remember that I do not know you personally, so cannot judge a person's life if I don't know them. I admit that I have been influenced by reports that Walmart uses contracts with companies overseas that make people work 14 hour days with no benefits and at insanely-low wages. Maybe it's not true.

          Either way, it certainly has nothing to do with you, personally. You are right about that. Of course.

  16. IntimatEvolution profile image80
    IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago

    And extremely rude, thoughtless, and on and on...........

    Just because someone likes to Golf, doesn't mean they didn't inherit the golf membership or that it is at all a bad thing.  Do you know how much the PGA and golfers donate to children every year.  It's in the upper millions.  Do you know how much the Laurie's have donated to the University of Missouri or Columbia College?  It is in the billions.  Oh, what a poor excuse you are.....

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    Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

    *HUGS* IE *HUGS* *HUGS* *HUGS*

    1. IntimatEvolution profile image80
      IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh I get so angry when people start blaming people who are financially smart for America's recession.  Especially when they imply that somehow the rich don't know the meaning of suffrage and pain.  By God- we do.  My son and his father liked to golf.  He uses his dad's clubs.  It is his way of holding on, and now just because I'm a member of a Country Club- I do not know of suffering or of America's recession?  Oh that's BS. 

      This should really get you, I'm a member of 3 different country clubs.  Now, what?

      Oh, his attitude is wrong on so many levels. 

      Thank you Crazdwriter, thank you for the hugs. 

      I worked hard, for years and years, and years to have what I have.  YEARS!  I saved, and saved, and saved.  I got extra life insurance money.  I invested it, reinvested it, paid my taxes, reinvested it.  I give, give, give, myself to volunteer and to charity events.  I am in those winter coats lines, passing out winter coats to the needy.  I help gather and collect those coats.  But so too does members from the Laurie's and Kronke's.  They are not afraid of getting dirty.  They are wonderful people, and America would really be hurt if they someday stopped building stores, slashed everybody's job, or fired everyone and closed their doors.  They do not need to make more money.  However, their business supports thousand of individuals who do need money and work.

      Oh Crazdwriter, thank you.  I've had enough.  I'm sorry, but.....

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Look. I'm really sorry. Honestly.

        I promise you I do not blame the rich for the recession. Honestly I do not. Really. And as you say, many many rich people got rich through blood, sweat, and tears, literally. And I know that the Waltons started real small, and that there are many many people like that, not just in America, but throughout the world.

        I have honestly never once thought in my head that the rich caused the recession. I promise. It is my strong belief that everything was caused by the mortgage crisis. Period. Really. Honest

  18. IntimatEvolution profile image80
    IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago

    Irregardless of my tradegy.............

    You stopped and judged someone because they golf????????????????

    You assume that they do not suffer as those WHO GOT THEMSELVES into a finicial mess?????????????????????????  We all suffer.  Not just the poor.


    Yes, I am well aware of America's strife.

    Yes I too was a highly successful business women. 

    The fact that YOU are a business man, and still blame people like us for the recession in yadadahdayayayaddada nonsense.  Ridiculous your assumptions. Ridiculous.  Next time, like in business, think before your leap and speak.  You might end up being called a class A jerk! 

    Oh you've really ruffled my feathers.............  I'm not the reason, nor are the Laurie's or Kronke's for everyone else's bad financial planning, and incredibly IRRESPONSIBLE spending. Do NOT scorn the ones who know NOT to spend more than YOU have or make. 

    What an ignorant way of thinking.  Maybe people like yourself are the reason why America is a recession.  Irresponsibility.  Maybe?  Possibly??????????

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's true that rich people suffer as well as poor people -- unfortunately we all have suffering in our lives, no matter what our situation.

      I don't blame the rich in general for the recession.

      I blame certain finance corporations, mortgage corporations, and, as you point out, many people's irresponsible use of credit (a little hard to fathom, to be honest, in fact). I already said, however, that I hold Wall Street to blame specifically, and not the rich in general. It's very clear that mortgage lenders, combined with mortgage borrowers, combined to make up specifically the cause of the recession.

      So, there you are. I was not claiming for a second that the rich in general caused anything. Nor that the Walmart family caused the recession (probably the opposite is true).

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image80
        IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Oh so YOUR suffrage is somehow more profound than mine because I'm wealthier than some? 

        I'm done.  You've insulted me enough today.  Shall I report you now?
        Yeah, I thought so.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Report me if you feel it is appropriate. Seriously. Really.

          I honestly realize that rich people can suffer as much as poor people. Suffering is universal. I know that.

  19. tobey100 profile image60
    tobey100posted 7 years ago

    Shop at WalMart and support ME.  I own stock. (just kidding)

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile

  20. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m263/Skamurai/chill_pill.gif

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      Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      *sniff sniff* UW....I wanna see and it didn't come up for me sad

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    Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

    yikes 3 country clubs? Wow you go girl! and the only golfing I've ever wanted to do would be driving the golf carts lol Yea I've always wanted to drive a golf cart around sad huh?

    And no worries about getting upset chica. just take a deep breath. I am truly sorry about your loss. made my heart ache when I read about your husband. You are a very strong woman, I can tell from your sory about saving and making sure that you have everything that you and your son needs to survive. Good for you! You keep fighting and keep saving! You are definitly an inspiration. *HUGS* again

  22. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
    AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago

    As an act of contrition I would like to consign myself to having to bear the avatar now shown to the left here for a period of seven days (and also an attempt to inject a jot of humour into what accidentally (on my part) became an explosive situation with a hubber who I am sure is very nice, and with whom I hope to build bridges in future)

  23. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Sometimes people forget that everyone does not know all about their lives. It teaches us a lesson I guess not to pre-judge. Not saying that you did that...

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No, you're right. I wasn't actually reacting to that particular post at all, in a way. In fact, come to think of it, I recognize that my reaction was irrational.... because I think what I was reacting to was a scene from the Canadian movie (I know you are Canadian....smile ) WalMart Nation, where a woman makes a similar comment... nothing to do with golf courses. So, in a way, I was reacting to my memory of that.
      But it's true. I don't know the Walmart family personally, so I guess in a way I have no way to judge them, or indeed no right to.

      I do however think that large organizations must be scrutinized, no matter what organization it is... because there is much power in ... Big-ness.

  24. Alessia Amnesia profile image57
    Alessia Amnesiaposted 7 years ago

    Isn't one of the Ten Commandments to "Love thy neighbor?" And aren't Christians supposed to consider every human being their neighbor?

    Yes, Wal Mart has made mistakes in their business ethics, as has every other big company out there. However, Wal Mart does many good things for communities as well, such as:

    -Supplying thousands of jobs in an economically troubled time when jobs are hard to find.

    -Supplying their employees with medical insurance.

    -Supporting U.S.A. based charities, which really need our help.

    -Supporting community elementary schools, middle schools, high schools, and colleges.

    -Supplying many Americans with affordable clothing, groceries, toys, music, movies, electronics, and even furniture that they could otherwise not afford.

    Those who boycott Wal Mart are not true Christians. By boycotting Wal Mart, you are:

    -Taking jobs away from people who really need them.

    -Taking medical insurance away from people who really need it.

    -Taking money away from charities.

    -Taking money away from education.

    -Helping to raise prices on clothing, groceries, toys, music, movies, electronics, and furniture.

    So, as a "true" Christian, do you really want to be responsible for even one person being laid off, resulting in that one person not being able to feed themselves or their families and not being able to provide themselves or their family with medical care?

    For someone who seems so smart, you sure don't think your plans out very well.

    1. EmpressFelicity profile image81
      EmpressFelicityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If it's true that Walmart forces its suppliers to reduce their prices by so much that they have to outsource their production to China, then Walmart is probably responsible for as many American job losses as job gains.  I suppose it's an object lesson for suppliers not to sell their stuff to just the one retailer if they can possibly avoid it.

      Boycotting Walmart wouldn't result in an overall job loss in the US, because people would presumably be buying their stuff from other retailers instead, whose staff would therefore be protected from losing their jobs because of the increased business.  (This thread reminds me of the "broken window fallacy".)

      Here in Britain Tesco comes under just as much criticism for its own sharp practices vis-a-vis suppliers.  It's too big and powerful IMO, which is one reason I don't shop there. 

      I agree though that the God thing is completely irrelevant when it comes to talking about stuff like this.

  25. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    If America wants to save jobs, they need to buy local products.
    Your own bloody fault if you buy cheap imported products. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy them!

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You speak wise words of wisdom from out of the... South

      1. TMMason profile image63
        TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Isolationism anyone? I am all for it.

        We should be our own providers and producers, etc. But we been sold out, "outsourced", so to speak.

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It may be fantastically hard to believe, but I think we might agree on something -- again!

          1. EmpressFelicity profile image81
            EmpressFelicityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol lol

          2. TMMason profile image63
            TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yup.

      2. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        We have the same problem in Australia. smile

    2. wyanjen profile image84
      wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm going to mail you an authentic "BUY AMERICAN" bumper sticker.
      Cool? lol

      We've also got:
      "Out of a job yet? Then, keep buying foreign!"

      A guy I know once had "Shoulda Bought A Chevy" printed up on some bumper stickers. He went around and stuck them on imported cars.

      The problem with Walmart, at least in my hometown, is that they have put everybody else out of business. There aren't any other options. There is seriously only one non-Walmart grocery store left there. When I graduated and moved away from there, they had four of them.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, this is an issue, at least to be discussed, if nothing else, to be sure.

    3. livewithrichard profile image86
      livewithrichardposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If it were only that simple.  It is where I live in Chicago since we have only ONE walmart in the entire city.  There's been a huge campaign to keep walmart out of the city because all they do is eat up jobs.

      I'm not knocking the value of having a Walmart, I shop there as often as I can and mostly in the suburbs. The problem with having a Walmart in the city is that 99% of all businesses in the city are Mom&Pops and Walmart will make things very tough on them.  It's not so bad in and around Chicago but if you go to the rural parts of the state or any rural part of the country you will find that if there is a Walmart around it was at the expense of Mom&Pops.

      As for the OP, curious logic at best.  I'll continue to support "aethism" as well as the thousands of Americans that need those JOBS those darn aethiests have given them. As a matter of fact, I think we should dig deeper into this. I'll not doubt anyone that suggest the Walton family is at the head of the New World Order and the pinacle of their take over will come when they are finally allowed to have their own branded Bank of Walmart in every store in America.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Really? Good Lord.

        1. livewithrichard profile image86
          livewithrichardposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          LOL there are hundreds of them surrounding the city but only one in the city itself.

          1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
            AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I live in a city of 144,000 people, and we have two. What do you have, like eight million or something

            1. wyanjen profile image84
              wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I've read of Chicago's "keep walmart out" campaign.

          2. TMMason profile image63
            TMMasonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Less taxes. Garauntee you there is a valid financail reason they are outside city limits.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Sounds right. (Good Lord, another one)

            2. livewithrichard profile image86
              livewithrichardposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, the reason is the residents of Chicago don't want them there. You can accept that answer or not. Walmart owns tons of property within the city limits, probably enough to put a store at ever square mile but there is a constant campaign to keep Walmart out.

              Come on, do you really believe that the largest corporation in the world gives a rats ass about taxes?

  26. TMMason profile image63
    TMMasonposted 7 years ago

    Yeah AD. I found his story quite an acomplishment myself. He didn't go out no looser. Self-made, the best way to be.

  27. AdsenseStrategies profile image68
    AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago

    I just realized that this thread was about Aethism and not Atheism... I take everything back

  28. dave272727 profile image60
    dave272727posted 7 years ago

    I enjoy a good trip to Wal-Mart.  It is the cultural center of my town.  People come from miles around to stare at the good that the mighty Wal-Mart provides.  Hooray for the golden calf that is Wal-Mart!!!(The proceeding statement was intended as sarcasm and not as an inflammatory remark)

    Seriously though, if you are going to spout "facts", can you provide some references to back you up?  This is kind of like the BS that ALL of McDonalds' meat comes from China.  Not true.  Wal-Mart like any other large business is going to face it's critics.  I don't believe Wal-Mart the business, nor the people who run it are communists.  Nor do I believe that they are evil and against religion.  How can you honestly say that?  I think that statement is a little absurd, I think it is VERY obvious that they are capitalists.

    1. profile image0
      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      i'd like to see an article or something to back this up.

      i mean, statements like:

      Walmart strong arms suppliers into outsourcing production to China.

      Walmart was caught paying a Chinese Company to sew "Made in the USA" tags onto clothing.


      are pretty controversial. i would like to see the source of these statements. and "WAL-MART IS ANTI-GOD" omgsh haha that made me chuckle big_smile

      1. dave272727 profile image60
        dave272727posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I guess the fear of slander is non-existent on the forums...

      2. livewithrichard profile image86
        livewithrichardposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Here's a link that shows the good that Walmart does for communities.  http://instoresnow.walmart.com/food-art … 44214.aspx

  29. profile image0
    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    wow, Richard, that is really interesting. i'm bookmarking that. you know, i have read and watched YouTube clips where Wal-Mart has taken steps to reduce the impact on the environment that hauling their products all over the country causes. they seem committed to making changes. that is actually surprising!

  30. AnywhereGardener profile image56
    AnywhereGardenerposted 7 years ago

    Incredible how much controversy this post has generated!! I always chose not to shop Walmart because of their anti union stance and wanting to become their own bank, which would hurt our community banks. I won't go into THAT controversy now but to say the greed of the mortgage companies and big banks and Washington Mutual President led to our economic downfall, not our community banks.

    How much an hour do Walmart checkers (non-management employees) make anyway? Is it much above each state's minimum wage? Because most familys cannot live on minimum wage.

    Do people at Walmart hate Walmart? Are they just grateful to have a job? Are they aware of or do they care about what Walmart does to the small family hardware store, etc. etc?

    You sure stirred up a hornet's nest!  Good for you!

    1. IntimatEvolution profile image80
      IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      In MO, Walmart checkers make around 10.00 an hour starting.  For mid-MO, that's good money.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Now THAT shocks me!
        Working as a door person or greeter or as a check out person the current salary here is minimum AU$19.00 an hour plus. After the 3 month trial this goes up to $26.00 an hour. Double pay on public holidays
        Our dollar is worth about 90cents USD so that seems like well below the poverty line.

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
          Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Okay, I'm moving to Australia smile

          I work in an office and I make $15 an hour. Average salaries around here are about $12. Many people in my company earn $8.95 an hour, which is the minimum wage allowed. I just get by, I don't know how they do it especially the single ones.

          1. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Goodness me! That is lousy! I have not been to Canada for a long time. It was always a bit tough, but that is terrible!
            Come on over, we could use another good mind. smile

            1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
              Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Other than the managers, I make a good living for working for my company which is a non-profit.

      2. AnywhereGardener profile image56
        AnywhereGardenerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Our minimum wage is $8.35 an hour, Washington State and our average home price is above $300,000, we have the highest gas tax in the nation, we don't pay state income tax but we are taxed for everything else. You can't live here on $8.35 an hour, that's only $16,000 a year! I'm glad to hear that after 25 years your husband earns $80,000. But the young families or single moms are going to have a hard time on $10 an hour.

  31. Hear Mum Roar profile image57
    Hear Mum Roarposted 7 years ago

    Not a problem. I'm not a Christian. Pity I'm an Aussie and we don't have Walmart here

  32. IntimatEvolution profile image80
    IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago

    Sorry, but that is good money here in Mid Missouri.  We have low taxes.  Walmart also offers them good health care benefits, retirement, paid vacations, sick leave, and retirement.

    I have several friends who have worked for Wal-Mart for 20 yrs or better.  Many of them make a good living.  Wal-Mart is big on promoting from within their ranks.  My cousin Mike, makes about 80k now and has worked for them about 25 yrs.  80k on a GED.  That's not too bad.

  33. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Yes, men do really well at Wal-Mart. My niece's husband is a manager and makes a really good salary.

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      We pay the same salary to both sexes at least in the jobs I know about.
      I have a friend who works for Big W in a Melbourne suburban shopping complex. That is her starting salary I posted.

      1. IntimatEvolution profile image80
        IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Did I imply that they don't here?  No, don't see that written anywhere.  Checkers here in MO can be both male or female.  Hell, they can be black or white too.  They all get paid the same.  My friend Wilma, started off as a customer service clerk, and has worked her way up too.  Just built a nice big house on a 25 acre farm.  Wal-Mart does not discriminate.  Let us do get that cleared up.

  34. AEvans profile image66
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    I know one of the sons of the original founder and Wal-Mart is not Anti-God. They outsource because it does not cost as much to make the products in China as it would to make them in the U.S. As for sewing tags made in the U.S. and then shipping them in, that would be a little complicated. U.S. Customs pulls containers in continually for inspection and they do look for fraudulent tags, etc. If they were caught it was U.S. Customs and I certainly give them kudos for doing their job properly. I do not believe however that the buyers of Textiles for Wal-Mart said, " Hey can you do us a favor and sew in MADE IN THE USA." especially when it would cost them there jobs. If it did happen it was someone on the other side (China) who was trying to get away with it. smile

  35. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    Do they sell FSM bumper stickers? Those are American-made.  What a dilemna for protectionist-religionists.

  36. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 7 years ago

    My goodness. What if every Christian really did boycot Wal-Mart?
    That would send a pretty strong message.
    *Imagines the sound of thousands of giant box stores imploding*

    If it's really such an evil, communist retailer (isn't that an oxymoron, btw?), why aren't the preachers of our evangelical churches warning their congregations?

    1. Jane@CM profile image60
      Jane@CMposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I like how you think!  I can hear it now from the pulpit lol

  37. rebekahELLE profile image86
    rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago

    I don't know about what the OP posted, but Paul Edmonson posted this thread a day or two ago.

    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/32590

  38. OregonWino profile image73
    OregonWinoposted 7 years ago

    BUt then I save more money to give to my church  smile

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think you can tithe at Wal Mart for 8.88 %

      1. wyanjen profile image84
        wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yup.
        But, then you would just feel...
        cheap.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah, but you would feel that either way.  At least at WalMart you keep a bit of your money.

          1. wyanjen profile image84
            wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Point taken.

            So, that leaves $1.12 to spend on candy & comic books smile

            Seems like a great bargain for those 10 percenters... which kinda shoots down the whole WalMart = anti god theory.

            Cool. Problem solved.

  39. TLMinut profile image61
    TLMinutposted 7 years ago

    uninvited writer, what DID you mean by "men do really well at Wal-mart." Do you know of a difference in pay for men and women?

 
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