Christian Faith and Religion

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   Andrew0208posted 13 years ago

   Christian Faith and Religion are similarly not the same. Why? Religion gets people into dogmas and hates that you wonder where they all came from. Jesus was never dogmatic in any form, but walked totally in Love. The Christian faith ought to be the life of a believer in Christ without being that religious but walking in faith in all things. Both are not the same!

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      AdsenseStrategiesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      But in practice they have proven notoriously difficult to separate, in real, actual people's lives

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         Andrew0208posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Sadly, the idea of religion which is "man made" has caused more harm than Aids or any terminal disease to mankind. When you see people stand firm to defend, fight and even kill others in the name of the so called religion, it's a pity! Checkout the account with Jesus Christ and those evil religious men in His days; they claim to know the divinity by their appearances and upholding the laws of moses but their hearts were very far from the father of spirits(God).
         
         Any religion is actually empty without Love. How can anyone say he or she loves God or divinity without loving the next person to him despite any differences?

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            mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            True love is the bottom line, god is pure love.

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      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you , you have very valid  point.Many will not understand what you are saying though.
      
      I believe it was J Krishnamurti who wrote some beautiful lines on this, the moment you say you are a Christian or Hindu or Muslim you are creating division, spirituality unites all .

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      svennygposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes thank you Andrew, you have an excellent understanding of this principle,good hub, Chritianty is God reaching down to man, Religion is man trying to reach God with his effort.
      My view is all types of religion sucks the very life out of you. I have been teaching the word of God now for over 25 years,have founded 2 bible schools here in the UK and currently a Dean of one, I have seen 1st hand how doctrines can become dogmatic by people, Yes there are different views, but you need as a christian to be able to express your understanding freely. This is to be expressed in love. If the hearer wants to know more, they can then decide for themselves. We are to work out our OWN salvation through the Holy Spirit that lives inside of us.(meaning: like a gold mine, working out the gold) Once we learn to listen to HIM, we will be able to discern what is right for us and what is not.
      Thank you agian brother.
      Regards

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         mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         So true one needs to work out his own salvation.The prophets are guides but one needs to walk the path himself.

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   goldenpathposted 13 years ago

   Actually the term Christian is an umbrella term consisting of hundreds of religions who ascert to following the example and doctrines of Jesus Christ.  Religions are good for they are a system of doctrines and practices designed for a particular outcome.  The variety is good because it allows us as human beings and children of the Most High to choose for ourselves and use personal agency to decide what system is best for us - if one is chosen at all.

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   theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago

   I have posted my thoughts on this today on my hub "the night I wanted to die".....

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   goldenpathposted 13 years ago

   I agree that constant debating is not of God and should be the farthest thing in a Christians mind to engage in.  Personally, that is why I refrain from a thread when I am being attacked.  It does no good and it foster discontent, hatred and ill-feelings.  We all know who authors these feelings and should be a dead giveaway to restrain ourselves when these occasions arise.
   
   So basically, to be a Christian is up to an individual point of view and perception.  First and foremost the first doctrines to learn as a Christian is that of the eternal principle of agency or the agency to choose.  Christians have their respective sets of beliefs and doctrines but it is also up to them how they use them.  Will they use them to better themselves and families or will they use them for power to gain recognition during debates in conversations and forums?  These types of forums plague the HubPages platform which is fine and encourages this free agency.  However, it would be nice if we all exercised a greater degree of integrity and show a little more self restraint in our conversations.

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      (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      In other words, ignore everyone who doesn't agree with your beliefs.
      
      
      
      That's the point you don't seem to understand, it is your religion that fosters discontent, hatred and ill-feelings.
      
       
      
      Yes, the authors of the bible.
      
      
      
      Irregardless, they will be used to propagate hatred and division among men.
      
      
      
      I doubt believers know the first thing about integrity. They wouldn't be believers if they did.

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         Davidsonofjesieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         blessed are you when they revile and persecute you,and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for my names sake.

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            (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Spamming the forums with scripture only demonstrates you have nothing to say.

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               Davidsonofjesieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               & you are spamming the forums with your hatred of GOD because you are blind to the truth

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                  Davidsonofjesieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  The power of GOD explaines you to the letter

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                     Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I am glad to see you are the only who see the letter in the proper context. Or did you know....the words of "GOD" from the bible are out of context and transformed them into reality all on your own?

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                  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You cannnot spread hatred about something that isn't real. Sorry, to tell you.

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      h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree

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      marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I was beginning to think you were logical for a moment.
      
      Christians shouldn't engage in debate? lol Truth is found through debate. You are saying Christians should refuse finding truth to protect belief.
      
      You write about integrity when both truth and lies are exposed through debate. You still contradict truth?

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         Davidsonofjesieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         the way of the fool is right in his own eyes

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            marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed. The way is blind and bliss.

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               Davidsonofjesieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               your getting it

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                  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  We're all getting it. We're very concerned about your blindness!

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         marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I wanted to add. You say you are a Minister. Do you preach to people that debate is bad?

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   goldenpathposted 13 years ago

   Thanks for proving my own point.

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      Mikel G Robertsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well Stated.

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      (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      And, thanks for demonstrating mine.

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   The Ropeposted 13 years ago

   There is a myriad of confused terminology out there in the world of theism.  Unfortunately with so many religions, doctrines and levels of understanding across our world, the confusion is perpetuated all the time.  Meet your reader where they stand, not where you stand is the first tenet of writing and should be in any type of education (including religious).  A very basic hub on two of these words...http://hubpages.com/hub/thechurch

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   Andrew0208posted 13 years ago

   I actually had this going on my mind this morning when I saw how religion has ravaged peoples mind outside the love of God. In fact this seem to have ridiculed the term "Chritianity."
   
   Christian faith is more of the walk of God's love and of the Spirit than the canality of religion and it's associated politics.

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   The problem is that everyone tries to INTELECTUALIZE way too much.   The only way that anyone will understand is ... 
   as a child.

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   kessposted 13 years ago

   Any group with a system of belief that is adhered to as the way to God or lack thereof is a religion.
   
   Christianity is one of the many and they are all false, for they major on the minor, while ignoring the truth altogether, or making ineffective by wrapping it up with their falsehood.
   
   As long as there is night and day, there are going to be fights, and argument, and contention.
   
   All who cry for peace, peace, unity, unity do not yet understand the truth and need to check themselves so as to flee from their hypocrisy.
   
   There would be absolutely No Peace among men, until the end comes.
   
   Do you believe this?

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    aljnaposted 13 years ago

    http://www.aljanaa.com/montada-f68/topic-t3258.htm#9972

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