why did God create atheists?
There must be a reason God doesn't make himself known to everyone.
Why did theists create God?
To your question, did God create the Beginning (Big Bang) or Everything? If God exists and created only the beginning, then atheists are simply a byproduct of the original creation.
In that case, God may not be directly responsible for creating atheists.
Why did theists create God?
That seem most likely, since mankind survived on earth 95℅ of the time before the creation of God.
The Hindu religion was the first to created God, before assuming God Judeo/Christians did.
Most scientist and most people who believe humans exist over 200,000 years ago.
Don't believe me, check out a natural history. We can examine the bones and fossils together.
Love to see you prove to them they are wrong?
Then prove to us that Creatiism was not 6,000 years, the only document assume evidence is the the Creatiism museum and Noah Arc museum. We're assuming proven by Creationist Science, which all other scientist have disapproval of.
God would have had to existed 200,000 years ago, not 6,000.
I believe most scientist and people are right with overwhelmining evidence.. Sons of God giants and Noah Arc 4500 years ago makes nonsense. 10s Millions of people and 100s of civilization with overwhelmining evidence proves they existed and lived long before the beginning of Creationist theory of God.
Unless you have another theory, just make one up!
We know of the distant past only what we have dug up and decided what that evidence means. Your claim is short sighted and doesn't take into account anomalous discoveries.
I've never been a supporter of beliefs being offered as facts when not backed by definitive proof. You lack that. Don't make claims based on your assumptions.
Concerning why God makes himself known to some and not to others...
We know the Law of God is written on the hearts of all humans. That is, everyone has some sense of the natural law. Most Christians believe that part of this natural law is the knowledge of the fact that man has a sinful nature or, in other words, has a need for salvation. That alone is enough to cause one to seek for something "higher", to seek for salvation.
Moreover, God instituted such things as the Holy Ministry and, even greater reaching than that, God has made a priesthood of all believers. Therefore, it is incumbent upon all to preach the Good News of salvation in Jesus. This doesn't mean that Christians are responsible for others' salvation... that is ultimately God's doing.
As to why God allows some to die without coming to faith... He says, "I will show mercy on whom I will show mercy." We have to leave some things up to the Divine Majesty (i.e. God's omniscience).
.... what about free self-guided will? It seems God respects our free will and never tampers with it ...
It seems to me that if we want to know God, we can find out about God through reading the Bible, meditating on God and his Love, and accepting His help. When we ask for it and work toward it, God's guidance and presence comes.
If we think we can do it without God, God let's us try.
Apart from God, man can do no good. Mankind is enslaved to sin. We have no free will in the sense of coming to God and believing in Him on our own. God works through His Word to bring people to faith. When people are brought to faith, it is not God responding to an act of mankind, it is rather mankind being gifted faith and salvation by God.
The apostle Paul writes in Ephesians, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast". One receives a gift passively. It is not by works that we come to know God, it is a gift given to us through the working of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit comes by the Word of God (The Bible, Scripture, etc.). See Romans 10:17.
Even repentance is a gift. "Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth," - 2 Timothy 2:25. God grants, or gifts, repentance to the penitent.
God works these gifts by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit works through God's Word. Christians are called to preach and make disciples of all nations by the Word of God.
Certainly, we CANNOT do anything good apart from God. But that also includes believing or coming to know God. Only God can work that knowledge in a person.
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast".
God, being one's higher self.
This passage, in my understanding, cannot be taken literally. Why do you take it literally!!!???? There is a deeper truth and it involves effort. My effort. My desire. Body, heart, mind and soul being willing to ACCEPT God's reality.
I am sharing with you another viewpoint which God entitles me to have.
My personal opinion is that each level of creation contains infinite variety. We are said to be a level of creation. The absence of atheism would negate reality.
what make you think there are "levels" of creation?
Reality. Look at every direction we can observe. From the observable with the naked eye universe to the subatomic level. The longer we look, the more we see and the more aware we become of what we intuit that has not been observed. Life itself. The more we learn the more we see how little we know.
Every individual moment of the creation story gives us a glimpse of infinite variety. So, why not that made in the image of God, also? Since we can't yet definitively define what that means I'd say there is a possibility of infinite variety on the individual level also.
On the list of things to wonder why God created, wouldn't you put pedophiles and murders and natural disaster that kill innocent people as more baffling?
It seems more reason to assume, if you believe in God, that this has more to do with the whole free will and or mysterious ways thing.
Yep. The list of “why did God _____?” is neverending. Lots of things happening that don’t really make sense in this world if an all-powerful (and presumably good) being is pulling all the strings.
Agreed. Which means that definition of God is illogical. Some atheists use that argument to claim as a result that God doesn't exist.
But that argument also is illogical.
So any questions about God should begin with a clear definition of God.
Why did God create frogs? To keep down the fly population?
Maybe God created atheists to keep down the lies of religion.
Hey ... flies and lies are one letter apart.
God only makes himself known to the frogs who are willing to grow their arms and legs. Not to the tadpoles who stay in murky water and refuse.
atheists are belligerent tadpoles.
... inconsistent with the metaphoring. sorry.
God is a frog.
Look at the first on land animal that was an amphibious looking froglike creature, then evolved into dinosaurs. Often Aliens are described looking like a frog, Pope calls Aliens our Savior.
I think I can start a Religion based on a frog. Look at Hollywood superheros, they are far more popular rather than the Supernatural heros who are hearsay stories that live and stuck in mud books.
That's funny. I just wish god had created frogs better at keeping down the mosquito population.
The mosquito should have been left behind on Noah's Ark. Was it Gods plan to irritate us or to kill alot more of us.
I had a friend, Çatholic by the way, who said that God had a wicked sense of humor.
Ain't that the truth! What is a mosquito's purpose?
Can it be anything more than a food source? If so, why does it have to be a human bane? Why couldn't it be a flying version of plankton?
Wait! I have it. God is a capitalist. He needed mosquitoes for the bug spray industry.
No, no ... God is a doG. ... always loving, happy and forgiving. That first frog-like alien/diosaurs was just a weird experiment.
what? God can't experiment?
According to Gods book. He really dislike snakes and jelly first. He compare a jellyfish to a Dolphin, a great disadvantage on the surface.
I think God is jealous as he usually is. Because the immortal jellyfish lived 10,000 times longer than God created the earth. Maybe the jellyfish created God? May the spaghetti monster have mercy on his soul.
Well, there is a claim that some of the first people on earth (aliens?) were reptile people.
Assuming "earth" means dry land, they would have been amphibious, not reptilian. Not very smart, but still living, moving entities.
Earth usually refers to the planet itself, so they could have been either. Maybe todays "horney toads" are their descendants.
That means if the earth was 6000 years old and 97℅ of the species went extinct.
Those biblical 16 feet giants must have been mighty hungry, enough to eat a Brontosaurus or a Rex.
I would bet on the Rex to win that fight, because they did not have guns in those days.
oh gawdddd MizBejabbers! Horney Toads? There aren't any horns' in the mental image your comment brought forth.
LOL, I know, GA, but you would have to live in the desert and come home and find a couple in your bathtub the kids had put there for safekeeping to appreciate it. That's what the kids called them.
Wait... earth ... dry land ... isn't that where you find reptiles? Isn't it the water part that applies to amphibians?
This is all too "deep" for me.
They forgot the Evolutionary chain links.
Castlepaloma, our planet is called the Earth. Some people do refer to its dry land as earth, but it is usually called soil or dirt.
maybe to play around with the third chakra.
God prank everyone, by planting dragon bones, to test our faith. As dinosaurs stories are the figment of your imagination.
The Absolute truth is an old bearded man who lives in the sky who watches everything you do. God is beyond our imagination that makes him reality. Or maybe not.
Acceptance is an act of will. To accept is active and willful. To be passive is not the same as being still under the influence of one's own self-mastery.
The Way I See It
"Be still and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10
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