Define atheism & its purpose
I have heard it before, but you know what? It still gets a laugh!
Yes - and that is the basis for all the arguments. People like you have been telling us we are warped for not believing for years.
Gets a lttle old and we are fighting back.
Odd that you have never been able to grasp that. Probably because you don't care how much conflict you cause by expressing this opinion.
Atheists don't believe in any god.
Purpose ?
As there is no Atheist Church, there's no purpose.
Only religious people have purposes : shoving their believes down our throats. Reminding us we're sinners. Bragging self-righteousness.
And again another hilarious thread ! LOLOL!!!
Aren't all of you fluttered ?
It must be the second coming is near !"standard form"?
haha i don't think there are any standards or conventions for "atheisim". not believing in the Christian god doesn't really make someone an atheist. there isn't a label for everything, unfortunately. i believe in some grand spiritual force somewhere, but it doesn't fit into any of the popular mythologies perpetuated by Man.It is all so much simpler than this. Religions make threats. I for one do not respond to threats.
Religion makes claims that are not only untrue, but totally ridiculous, and then force feed them with "god said"
I need no science degree, or to be very clever to see that a threatening sky fairy is more than a bit unlikely. Common sense.
As many of us are. We often know your religion better than you do, but without the constraints of not wanting to find out we are wrong and our beliefs ridiculous we can live a normal life understanding each new thing that comes along without having to be dragged screaming into the next century and without the need to change "context" in our beliefs to accommodate them for starters!
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Interesting. I assume you can read?
I can. And I have read the bible. I reject it, and the hate mongering, holier-than-thou, rewards in the next life, martyr complex it was written to instill.
Once having read and understood the bible, it is hard to be anything other than antagonistic towards it.
I would not call this blind bigotism, or intolerant any more than being ant-nazism is bigoted and intolerant.
Now - real bigotisnm takes what is said in the bible as the word of a god without thinking about it.
You do not believe? You are a sinner destined for hell. No compromise. None.
So - at what point is my being anti-religionism bigoted and intolerant? Are you tolerant of Nazism?
Not in the slightest.
I have listened to religionists justify their beliefs constantly and once you have decided to believe - you continue to do so. A dog shitting in the street is proof positive that god exists, and this is just another version of "I appreciate atheists because they strengthen my faith."
Basically what you said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but if you want to take the millions of painful deaths involved in the spread of god's perfect word as being something to be thankful for and tell me I have a purpose which is to perpetuate your ridiculous beliefs and am therefore invalid - which is what you said. Well......
I don't really have much of a response other than to respond by saying thank you for proving my decision not to believe is a valid one and there is no invisible super being.
I don't know why any of the theists did not respond.No food for thought being caused here. Nonsensical justification of your belief in an invisible super being seems par for the course.
I mean - look at Valerie's last response. She is quite prepared to fool herself into thinking that her chosen church (Catholic) has not spent the last 1800 years desperately trying to wipe out atheism. Never happened.
I dont do religion or god full stop. Not credible, no evidence, many unsupported "truths"
Atheist?
I don't know how to define atheism either.
I do not believe in fairies in the sky who kill people, surely one would not need to be any more than just sane not to believe the same wouldn't they?That would depend on who was manipulating the word, connecting it to somewhere it does not belong, or telling me what the fairy said about it.
- well don't read it then!
Neither can you.
Trotting out the "you really made my belief more solid," line is just extremely funny to us atheists. Especially as you are basing it on nothing other than a desire to be more important than you really are.
In fact - it makes us pity you even more and increases our desire to see a world free from irrational beliefs. I will now spend more time teaching people that their beliefs are dangerous garbage.
Thank you very much..Not at all. It is behavior such as you are displaying right now that convinced me you guys are full of s***.
But I love it when believers get upset when I turn the tables on them. All that does is convince me you do not even know what you are saying half the time.
Not sure why you are unable to accept that sometimes people make a rational decision based on the evidence. In this case, the lack of evidence combined with this type of behavior from people who do believe.
So - thank you once again for showing me the truth.Hey Mark.
What logical, rational, educated and free thinking led you to drink and smoke? (Oh and gamble---although you don't gamble).
I've been meaning to ask you that for ages, Just keep forgetting.
PS. I'm glad you chose to quit (at least one)!Why are you interested? I started drinking and smoking when I was 13 years old. My parents smoked, the priest at the church boarding school I went to was a heavy drinker and smoker - so I figured it was OK. Not sure the words "logical, rational, educated and free thinking" apply to a 13 year old.
As I got older - I discovered it was not good for you and have since quit smoking and cut down on drinking in an effort to lose the weight I put on while quitting smoking.
But - thank you for reminding me once again why I despise your holier than thou religion.
You are right - you cannot trust your parents or the church to teach you right from wrong - you have to learn it for yourself and deal with it yourself when you want to make a change.No sweetiepie. Never been a Catholic. Sorry - that is the problem with never listening to anyone and just spouting your holier than thou hatred. Sorry your god has been proven to be a figment of your imagination. You must be very angry. Don't take it out on me though. Is that what Jeebus would have done?
The thing is that by uing a word like god you confuse the issue.
Who made the rules? What happens if you break them?
I can't quite agree with this post. The problem for me is that people with soft beliefs like this tend to unknowingly give cover for the people with the hard beliefs. A god is not a 'something out there', it's a personalized deity, not an unknown thing. You have defined the source of the magic of life as a sentient being. In doing so you have claimed what cannot possibly be known.
Your rules, besides reminding me of Jerry Springer, you don't mention where they come from. What makes them rules? Is there a supreme reward or punishment associated with them?
The implication in your post is that they come from your god.Good enough.
Define atheism....."nothing exists outside of the natural"
Purpose...."no purpose, other than to harass those who do believe in (anything) outside the natural world."
That seems to be the behavioral expression of their "contribution"True...especially if those others disagree with us...
that was funny
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Children,... please !!! Quippy...
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Sweetie pie - as much as you wish to avoid the burden of proof - it is yours.
I know, I know - you do not feel you need to justify your ridiculous beliefs - I guess because you cannot.
I make no such statement as you just lied and said I did. I see no evidence of a god. None. especially not his fan club.Sweetie pie - you cannot keep using that argument. It makes no sense. I know, O know - it is hard having to justify your ridiculous beliefs and this is a good way of distracting from the fat that you believe something that does not exist - but it will not change the fact that the burden of proof is yours.
Sorry sweetie pie. This is how it works. You make the assertion - you provide the evidence. It must be very frustrating for you.
LOLOLO
And you do not see the difference between believing something is there with no proof and not believing something is there with no proof?
Like all religionists - you prefer to bring my decision making down to your level - and that is offensive.
Which is why a blind belief in god, combined with aggressively attacking anyone who does not believe the same as you do will always cause conflicts.
Always has done and always will do.
I mean - look at sweetie pie number 65 - shouting that lack of proof is not proof.
And he is lying because I would like to bet he does not apply that rule to any other area of his life. But - because he is trying to justify a ridiculous belief - he is forced into lying and attacking me because I will not believe.
But - when I hand him an empty rucksack and tell him it will work as a parachute - I bet he asks for proof before jumping out of an airplane at 20,000 feet.
Double standards - yet another reason for constant conflict caused by a belief in a god. Too bad really. pity none of the believers understand this.No one, I'm simply stating that I believe.
Because you continue to ask, and tell me I'm wrong/stupid/ignorant/delusional/a sweetie for this belief of mine.
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Yes
still makes me laugh....Quippy...
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Well - you seem to be coinfusing atheism with something else. I never said there is nothing. I don't know what there is - or even if there is anything after I am dead.
I have said I do not believe there is a god.
Apart from that - who knows? No one - start telling me you do and I am laughing in your face. Start giving it a name - and I am laughing extra hard.
See - the trouble is - that we are part of something bigger than ourselves. And people like sweet pie number 65 feel obliged to name it and start telling us it is a person.
And I do not think that having a blind belief is a good thing. Read any history book.
@Pandoras box:
"Most atheists won't even publicly admit their atheism, let alone engage in discussions about it."
They wont admit bcoz either they r scared of attacks from different religious groups or they r ashamed to face their religious friends nd family members since atheism is considered a sin. However, similar situations were dealt by early Islamic & Christian preachers who chose not to preach immediately into public. Rather they chose to talk with their close friends and relatives first.
"Atheism isn't a set of beliefs; therefore it is not a religion." - It may not be a religion but a set of believes can be easily assigned to it:
"All children are born Atheists; they have no idea of God."
-Baron d'Holbach
1. Atheism is the position which claims that there are no deities. it is the rejection of belief in the existence of any deities. Not necessarily it rejects each and every system of the society.
2. God and other religious beliefs are human inventions, created to fulfill various political, psychological and emotional wants or needs.
3. The idea of God implies the abdication of human reason and justice; it is the most decisive negation of human liberty, and necessarily ends in the enslavement of mankind, in theory and practice. On the contrary, Atheism is a gift, an example of a broad unbiased mind. Therefore, it is the duty of atheists to free mankind from such enslavement.
4. Atheism puts humanity as an absolute source - favoring humanity as the absolute source of ethics and values, and permitting individuals to resolve moral problems without resorting to God.
5. Atheism promotes absence of religious motivation - that belief in gods does not motivate moral action, religious action, or any other form of action;
6. Active exclusion of the problem of gods and religion from intellectual pursuit and practical action
Here's a scenario that I like to use to explain how I think. Let's say there is a shipwreck and two kids age 6 survive and end up on a deserted island.
They don't know anything about any religion, gods or anything like that. They survive and grow up. The only thing they know is that they are who they are, humans.
They gather food, eat, sleep, play and so on. That's it, that is what life is all about. They never think about any gods or other things like that because they never where exposed to it. Life just "is"!
So that is how I think. You are born, grow up, live life and die. That's it, that's everything. Now if you want to call it any name, go ahead. Or don't call it anything.
It's not a belief, or practice, or any thought. It's just living life in it's pure form, accepting both the good and bad of raw life. Of not making anything up to somehow make life more bearable.The education of civilization!!!???
The grasping of ancient peoples to explain away death is what you call the education of civilization!!!???
You might want to do some catching up. From the article you linked to:
Atheism, defined most narrowly, is the position that there are no deities. More broadly defined, it is the rejection of belief in the existence of any deities, with or without an assertion that no deities exist. The broadest definition classifies atheism as the absence of belief that any deities exist.
The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without gods", which was applied with a negative connotation to those thought to reject the gods worshiped by the larger society. With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves as "atheist" appeared in the 18th century.
Atheists tend to lean towards skepticism regarding supernatural claims, citing a lack of empirical evidence. Common rationales for not believing in any deity include the problem of evil, the argument from inconsistent revelations, and the argument from nonbelief. Other arguments for atheism range from the philosophical to the social to the historical. Although some atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism, rationalism, and naturalism, there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.
In Western culture, atheists are frequently assumed to be exclusively irreligious or unspiritual. However, religious and spiritual belief systems such as forms of Buddhism that do not advocate belief in gods, have also been described as atheistic.
LOL
I wonder if you actually read what you linked to?
We atheists do not have a set of beliefs. Why do you feel the need to tell untruths Mikel? Is that what god tells you to do into your head?Uhuh. None of which apply to not believing in something.
Now, sweetie pie - we have talked about this before. Using words in ways that bear no relationship to the actual meaning just causes confusion and ill-will. I know that you like to cause ill-will and conflict - like your god told you to, but still........
I suggest you go look those words up and then tell me how any of them apply to not believing there is an invisible super being watching out for us.I understand that you are attempting to shift the burden of proof away from yourself, yes.
Not believing you is still not believing you.
Understand sweetie pie? I do not believe you when you tell me there is an invisible super being. I see no evidence for one and your behavior is convincing me you are sadly deluded and very lonely. Further more, my common sense tells me that you are wrong in your assertions - and of course - I cannot prove it does not exist.But that does not mean it does exist.
A lot of lonely people make up imaginary friends. And there is nothing wrong with that - just don't expect me to be able to see Him.
They may. That sill not make it soi.
But they may also come to understand how they fit in with their environment and learn to respect it. They will also - most likely - come to the conclusion that they will also die - seeing as everything else dies in their environment and they will probably be injured and notice they are growing older.
Oh I suppose some would think about where they came from and all that stuff. Then they might try to invent a higher form and presto, once again we have religion!!!!
I was using that scenario to explain how I think, not theirs. Life just is, it's here and now. My purpose is just to live, nothing more.@Precious
Thanks for playing...No - more laughing at the condescending statement you have just made.
Thank you for validating my lack of belief.This is very insulting and self-righteous. And I am supposed to remain sweet and kind when believers are spewing such hateful crap as this?
I feel QUITE PERSECUTED!
That aside, sweetness, what you have basically just said is that the proof of your god is all in your head. I agree. You should give your imagination a rest.
That was rather funny. Totally convinced me that they all want to be be a martyr. Passive aggresive attacks until some one cracks and then they are happy. Especially as it was "tell me where I am provoking this" and then start arguing when I did.
TOLERANCE of my irrational bleiefs - that is all I ask. I will then completely invalidate anything you say by playing the "esoteric knowledge" card.Not me! Persecution isn't my thing!
No, you weren't arguing with me at all, nor I with you really. It's just that I don't have much of a problem with someone putting a face of their God, my problem is when they put their own face on their God, so to speak!
The fact of the matter is that I am perfectly okay arguing either side of the coin. Having a God or not having a God will not change the way I choose to behave. LOL.
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
0Mark! Sky fairy, really! Is that all you got? You are obviously way more intelligent than the religious so help us and prove there is on God, no Jesus and no Holy Spirit, please.
You prove it every time you open your mouth, sneako.
Not good enough! You are the expert show us the goods! C'mon you say it all the time so you must have some proof. Don't let your fans down give them a reason to go on, show us your proof.
So - no proof then? Nothing at all. Good luck at the bank. I hope they have some money left.
I've got mountains of proof! I'm convinced you're the one who says it's all fantasy. So c'mon darling lets see what you got!
That goes for any non-beliver put up your proof or adimt you're wrong on all levels and we'll help you find the answers you can't find for yourself. It's easy, put your foolish pride aside and recieve the blessings you deserve.
Mountains of proof, huh?
Somebody alert the press.
Wait, are these proofs anything like the proof you claimed to have that supposedly proved atheism is a religion?
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago0
It's ok to be wrong as long as your nice about it!
Then by that standard I guess you're doubly wrong?
It is irrelevant if someone is identified as an atheist or not. You need no belief system to recognise that an invisible, horrible entity does not exist any more than the sun god it all started with did.
Sanity is not exclusive to atheists, anyone can not believe in the tooth fairy.I can handle what I believe being called the big nothing Valerie.
I understand that you try to be civil, the problem is that what religionists believe is offensive to me, my family and friends.
Who among non believers has a theory that involves death and torture for not believing it?
Non believe is just that. I do not believe that you, or your god have any say in my life at all, and I deny your perceived "religious right" to have your god tell me or my precious little ones that they will rot in hell for not swallowing what amounts to retold bits of bronze age information that is psychotic, incomplete and totally unproven! Nothing personal.an example of Atheist's Doctrine... Thank You Earnie...
No, an example of common sense.
Not believing any crazy belief requires no doctrine, just common sense.
@ Precious,
again, Thank You sooo much for playing, but now it is Pannie's turn. You be a good boy and go play with the other little boys, or hit the books like you should have already.Good morning sneak! Same time, same bat channel.
I knew it! There is a 50/50 chance that Wiley willy wobbles is god, the only true god and I am 50% likely to be right.
I will say Mikel your logic matches your maths and science!A very good read, your post, and the god delusion.
Yes I think it is clear enough on non believers too!
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
See any choice here? ... or should I quote another 30 or so such statements just to be sure?The bible like the quoran does not tolerate non believers.
His omni-ness? I have to tolerate people I don't like, and I'm only human!
LOLOLOLO
That is some unconditional love right there. God "tolerates" everyone. But only if they tolerate Him first. Sounds awesome. I can hardly wait to be tolerated.
Good point!
... if you only use half the bible! I just don't recall Jesus telling the old man he was a liar or denying what god was supposed to have said in the OT. I do not put as much emphasis on when god said all those hateful things, but that any god would say them at any time is illogical. Why would an omniscient god be neurotic? that makes no sense at all to me
I offered to throw one off the top of a building site once, does that count?
He's just another god isn't he?
Well.... if you have a book.... that's different!
See what I mean about the covert abuse?
He tried the "Thanks for playing" on me, Mark Knowles and others who oppose his view. We know what you mean by that OK Mikel? It is rude arrogant and dismissive. If you can't discuss with others in a civil way, you will not learn any more than you know now. WOW that is scary!!! Oh just spam!
I can see why you say that and I can also see that you cannot even figure out what's best for yourself?
Groups? Labels, you just love them don't you.
Trust, religion is NOT an answer to anything. The only reason it's lasted this long, is because people refuse to accept responsibility for every aspect of their life. They refuse to because they cannot grasp life.
When they think about it, they simply cannot wrap their mind around it and rather not think about it.
There are too many people acting in this manner. Also, It might be good if you looked at things from an individual perspective, because every time that you try to view things on a world-wide view, you cannot wrap your mind around it or even understand it.
By your own words- you admit you cannot understand life. So, please. You keep trying to justify your belief in the "GOD" concept, when you actually have no ground to stand on.
It's always a pleasure to see you Valerie and I really wish you would stop running yourself around in circles.
No Mark, I am not proposing anything ..u r already too well organized. And if I take guys like u in my group, i would be left with nothing but bags of legos and beaten screaming kids around me
I see. So - insulting me in public when you know nothing about me is acceptable behavior if you believe in an invisible super being?
Beaten screaming kids huh?
At least their virginities would be intact.I am extremely sorry if you find my last comment offending. It is not my intention to fight with sub-standards, neither to hurt them...
You r smart Mark, I really mean it... But what shocks me most is that the most so-called atheists here don't even understand the concept of atheism, just brags being one & argues about it with other catholic garbages. Sorry sweetie pie - It appears you have not recieved a formal education, so I would not expect you to understand the concept of manners and common politeness. So - I forgive you.
I see you are a big fan of telling poeple what they think though. That does tend to come along with a belief in an invisible super being.
Catholic garbages? I make no particular distinction between the various garbage sects. They all look the same to me.1. "...It appears you have not recieved a formal education" - making assumptions is not an atheist way of talking, sounds like garbage to me
2. 'I make no particular distinction between the various garbage sects.'...its a weakness in ur perception & understanding
Dont put too much pressure in ur mind BooBoo bear, go nd drink honey, play lego, do watever suits u man. tc- ...I am getting tired on this..so this will be my last reply to you. Because of your limited understanding ability, I am trying to explain it in three simple sentences:
1. There are levels of Atheists...
2. You are an inferior (weak) atheist
3. Because of booboo bears like you, we atheists are often embarrassed & our knowledge is often questioned.
BooBoo...u r still here? didnt i tell u to go n play with ur legos !!
hav u lost ur mind?? wat language is dat??? told u not to put pressure in ur little brain...just concentrate inur legos
This is a religionist sock puppet come to show that atheism is a belief system and religion with rules and an agenda.
Hey Mark,
What Rishy is still yet to be determined? I'm not sure if it's a sock-puppet, or just someone who has a very highly established ego.
He/She called me out the other day in a thread, wondering if I was a BOT or a real person.
How sad is that? Could just be a troll - that is true. Ussually some one who claims to be an atheist, attacks me and starts spouting the rules and levels of atheism tends to be a religionist sock puppet, but I am open to the troll idea...
I am really sorry about that Cags, I am new here and I didnt knw ur the Pamela Anderson of hubpages...
but wat kind of creepy wierdo calls himself a business in his bio...u should b delighted dat I at least gave u the status of a talking software...hahahha "A Free Advice Giving Business'' ... ... but you were right about one thing, no one is ever going to pay you for your advice anyway oh..btw...try to team up with Mark, two real life loser might make one online hero
Hmmmm......? Interesting that you bring that up. I see, you are not only not too bright, but very misunderstood too?
What is with you? So far, you've tried everything you can to discredit Mark, which isn't going to happen, but your attempt was a good try.
Battling with me, because Mark made you look like a fool, is only going to made a fool of again. So, this tact isn't in your best interest and most likely isn't going gain you any ground.
You argue from a defensive position and you cannot even attempt to gain any advantage from that position. You may play on words, in your attempt, but that will be obvious, in your next attempt to argue with me.
So, don't waste your effort. You cannot gain anything. It makes no sense.
You know nothing and it's obviously your semi-intelligent brain is malfunctioning yet again. But, that's okay, we can call you a doctor if you would like?
Sure..but u hav to run to the Doctor...just like Pam used to run in the baywatch...nd dont forget to wear dat red swimsuit....
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago0
You two need to love one another and see past your differences.
Oh, btw- just to let you know.
I'm not an atheist, so your religious garbage is exactly that..garbage.
I reject all mystically faith based religions.oh...then I bet u must b "The Enlightened One"...or "The Enlightened PAM" with Glowing boobs
No sweetie pie. No purpose. We just refuse to believe the garbage you believe. You do believe in a god and think He will destroy the planet right?
But not through global climate change.
Because you would not believe something like climate change with no proof.
But the invisible super being?
No problem.
Not buying it sweetie. Sorry.You're absolutely right on all counts. By the way, check out the avatar. I'm a guy, not a sweetie and I don't remember asking you to buy anything. I don't believe you state the purpose atheism serves either.
No purpose, sweetie pie. Like I said - we just refuse to buy your invisible sky fairy, and I personally find it massively funny that you will accept that with no evidence and whine about climate change not being the way He decided to wipe us off the planet.
Massively funny. And - if you think about it - it is pretty funny.
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago0
It's ok Buttercup.
Like I said - Really, really funny.
Not enough proof? Sorry man you got the wrong dude. My remark to Mark it just a shot across his bow. I very much a Christian and have supported that position always without fail.
- A Texanposted 14 years ago0
Wow - Interesting replies from the sweetie pies.
Texan sweetie thinks I need to kill some klan members or I approve of them. An no - pretty much the only time I get told to "man up" is on anonymous internet forums by people 6,000 miles away.
Sneako sweetie pie thinks the opposite of "christian" is "liberal democrat". Which coinfirms my belief that christianity is actually a political party and the god nonsense is just a front.
Valerie sweetie pie does not see the irony in her remarks when she tells people that not believing in a god is warped, but gets very, very upset when some one takes the opposite position and is unable to see which one came first.
@Don - I think you may have missed my point. Which is that - being against an ideology on principal - in this case religion - is not bigoted if there are good reasons to be against it.
I agree that there is no god and theism is merely an opinion. But - it is an opinion backed by an invisible super being that cannot, by definition, be wrong. Therefore - no compromise is possible and I think it is evil. Just like Nazism.Well - you have not actually answered my question and seem to have totally missed the point.
If you genuinely think you have the perfect word of god in your bible, the best you can say - and I have been told this many times is "God gave you free will to deny his existence, and you will pay for this with eternal torment."
The perfect word of god says that abortion is murder and wrong.
http://hubpages.com/hub/whydidntigetachance
How do you compromise with this? This person feels it is acceptable behavior to guilt young girls into not having an abortion and posting photos of dead babies and it is OK to try and make a few dollars selling Amazon and ebay rubbish off of this.
Now - I am well aware that no one has the perfect word of god and it will always say exactly what that person already believes. But - they are blinded to this. The very fact that the religionists cannot agree what the perfect word of god says is enough to persuade me there ain't any such thing.
I keep being told (by the religionists) to be more tolerant of their beliefs and the only reason they say the things they say like Valerie who thinks that not believing in god is warped - is because I make fun of their beliefs. They are quite prepared to ignore the fact that they have been saying these things for thousands of years and the bible tells me I am "warped," - never happened. Just a reaction to the "persecution" they are facing because they love Jesus.
All you have really said is that you would like it if one side stopped ridiculing the other and "compromised."
Taking one side away from the argument is not compromising.
So once again I ask you how you can come to a compromise with some one who has been told by god to go forth and spread the word?
I have tried being rational. But I have discovered that it is not possible to have a rational conversation with some one who thinks they are speaking for god.
I am open to compromise and I genuinely do not care one whit what some one else believes. Until they feel the need to tell me about it. Until they feel the need to build churches to the invisible super being and have traffic stopped so they can get in an out of their edifice to god.
Until the Arch Bishop of Canterbury goes on national television and lectures me about the ills of secular greed and then his church loses forty million pounds in a real estate deal in New York that involved illegally evicting rent controlled tenants from their homes to build luxury condos.
http://internationalpropertyinvestment. … goes-south
How do you compromise with the perfect word of god? By definition - it is perfect and if history can teach us anything about religion it is that there ain't no compromise when it comes to this.Education will make a laughing stock of all religion, fairy belief is like that.
In the past we just accepted that the death threats from the fairy were OK, everyone had some threat that would work on the bone ignorant.
Now people are learning that all the science they poor crap on is doing a better job at understanding why people need a fairy. It will all come out in the wash soon.
I had to check the dictionary, theocracy is listed under ideology along with other examples.
Theism is an ideology and a world view, if you want to be pedantic. Seems you like to dismiss others out of hand so I'll not bother to respond anymore.
I'm not sure what 'wide in scope' has to do with the fact that theism is an ideology? Ideologies can be wide in scope, too.
I'm also sure I didn't say anything about ant-theism, either.
If an intolerant ideology like theism or religion or whatever you wish to call it is considered bigotry, then so is the intolerance of the KKK, Nazism and hate speech. We should be tolerant of their beliefs if we don't want to be labeled as bigots ourselves, correct?
.... just a lack of faith really.
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Theists/Atheists: Can you compliment the opposite belief system?
Theists/Atheists: Can you compliment the opposite belief system?If you're a theist, what's something positive you could say about atheists? If you're an atheist, what's something positive you could say about theists? Please no sarcastic or passive-aggressive responses.
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Is Atheism really just another religion or faith based concept?
Is Atheism really just another religion or faith based concept?It seems like the notions that there is a God or there is not a God, are both founded in belief because there is not proof either way. Well there is proof, but not conclusive in either direction. So aren't organizations with set forth...
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Why Do Christians Have Such A Problem With Atheism?
Atheism only means the lack of a belief in God. Why is it so hard for Christians to realize that we dismiss their religion for the same reasons that they dismiss all other religions? It doesn't make us horrible people, immoral, or mean that we are going to hell. It just means that we think the...
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Define Atheism? Do you have a concrete defination for it?
I have talked to many atheists and some say that atheists are people who do not believe in the concept of God. But in the past people said that atheists were people who believed that there was "no God". What actually is atheism?
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How Are Atheists Created?
Before I go into this discussion, we all need to understand that I am not a scientist, I am not a prophet, and I am not an expert on the topic. I am merely trying to offer my belief in how atheism occurs. And why some of you might not like what I am about to say, understand that it is not meant as...
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Anachronism of atheism
Is atheism an anchronistic non-belief system? Of all the "isms" that has bedeviled man's existence, it could be said that atheism takes the cake for being inexplicably incongrous with modernity, for in its essence, non-belief (in somehting or anything) belies...