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This may have been discussed on the forums before, but I wouldn't know because I'm new to the forums. I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions. <Hub self-promotion snipped> I've heard this question a lot recently, so I figured I would seek out some opinions from others.
"Why does God let bad things happen to us?"
Nothing has ever happened to me that I didn't have a hand in.
I couldn't have said it better myself, cheers T
Your question is serious.
First tho, what the "frick" is this god thing ya mention?
If this god thing killed all those poor folks in Haiti and then in Chile, I'm trying to figure out what
"its" fricking motive was.
If "it" really was responsible, it has to be a psychotic, murderous MF!
Now if this god thing is but a figment of man's amazing imagination, then one just has to believe that shite happens, and go on with life..eh?
Some ppl just deserve it. Those whom don't well, 'god', is probably trying to tell them something.
Your hub didn't answer the question at all, it was filled with the usual religious rubbish believers bleat all the time. A complete waste of time.
LOL I especially liked this bit:
Which makes this god person out to be a petty psychopath.
"I let bad things happen so you love me! I could have made the world perfect, but then you wouldn't have needed me."
God let bad things happen to us, because he's disappointed with the result. Humans are not what he expected. He made things wrong, and now he doesn't want other Gods to blame him for it.
So he lets Nature take good care of all the 'Disasters'
What an excellent way to promote your newest hub and I'm sure had your done a bit of research, this topic has been covered over and over. Yes, I'm real bitchy tonight!
only we set ourselves up for bad to happen...no spiritual being does that for us...
Hey Donkey, that's like asking the age old question.....
Why do the good people made to suffer?
@Habee, what's up?
And, I'm sorry to say, there is no heaven. You've been mislead.
There is only no heaven for people who don't care to be there.
Sorry, have to disagree with you there. I have nothing to lose by believing in God. Even if he doesn't exist, just by believing in him has made me a better person than I used to be.
What are you disagreeing with?
I'm glad you think so.
I'm not doubting that, simply from your statement/admission. However, it is unfortunate, you give credit to someone else for something you did.
To each his own, freedom of choice I suppose, who am I to judge an others beliefs?
Hey just saw email-will read it soon thanks
I am not judging their belief. I am trying to learn the basis for their belief. Faith cannot be 100%, it's impossible.
The definition of faith is that it's an unquestioned belief.
Last time I checked, a belief is to be known as true.
This is the foundation for forming a system of belief. It starts with an ideology, turned into a philosophy of thinking, grounded into a firm belief, support by one's faith in themselves, to discern truth.
Therefore, "faith" cannot be 100% when representing the "GOD" concept. It simply cannot be done. Simply for the fact, the existence of such isn't known to be true to anyone, regardless of what they want you to believe.
What people have is HOPE that there is a god. They also hope that there is something more when they die, so they can feel better about themselves and claim certain things are "GOD's" fault, or it's " God's will", when an event occurs.
I believe that there is a heaven, and you do not. So, you really think we were put on this Earth just to die? You really think all of this serves no purpose? You really believe that the universe just appeared out of nowhere? I respect your views, but I can't say I agree with them.
That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure. Since you were responding to something I said to someone else and wasn't talking to you.
No. We, the human race, WAS NOT "put" on Earth just to die. I was born to two lovely parents, who loved me. I nor anyone else, was "put" here.
The fact that you do not, shows your limited knowledge and understanding about your damn life. What does 'all' encompass exactly? Are you talking about why you were born? Why humans exist? What purpose does the human race serve? Your statement is too broad, streamline it.
Let me ask you something, before I answer you question- Does it really matter to your "individual" life? What effect does knowing really have on your existence?
The Universe simply exists, because we've as a civilization of human beings have been able to identify it's existence. We live in a world and reality where "cause and effect" rules. The Universe is the CAUSE for the EFFECT we know as life. Because the Universe exists, the Earth evolved. Earth evolved so much so, it was able to create life-forms of the billions of variety.
I can understand you cannot agree. It's your problem, not mine. I'm only passing along knowledge I already have obtained.
Have a great day.
That's funny. Not believing in a god made me a better person than I was when I believed.
Ray, I luvs ya, but you'll never convince me that there's no Heaven!
So with belief in god makes a better person, i wonder how jihad started with belief in god, how writers of holy book wanted non-believers to get punishment from god if they are better person with belief in god to begin with.
Ok question and don't think Im challenging or trying a debate but why does it honestly matter to you? And gets you aggravated? Is it lack of knowledge in some? Just curious
I wouldn't expect you to, but okay.
Because, it's important and does effect/affect my life, either directly or indirectly.
Annoyed would be more the word I would use. I stopped getting aggravated over it.
In some, it truly is a lack of knowledge. In some, it's fear. In some, it's what I'm now calling "Choice" ignorance, which means, that they choose to be ignorant.
Some, think that they have lived long enough to have their answers, and confident that no one can tell them anything they don't already know. It's a false sense of security masked by ignorance and a refusal to learn.
Bad things don't just "happen" to us for no reason. We each have a direct hand in our own personal futures. We all have the capability to think about the consequences before we take action.
Instead of blaming God for everything bad that has ever just "happened" to you, why not take some personal responsibility?
I actually find it amusing how God has supposedly given us life, given us freedom to make our own choices, given us this beautiful Earth that we live on, yet we continue to destroy it with our poor decisions and then have the audacity to blame God for our mistakes. When is the last time you've taken a seat, looked around you at all the good things you have, and just thought, "Wow, God has truly blessed me?" If about 75% of Christians are completely honest when they answer this question, the first thing that came to mind was Thanksgiving or Christmas. About 20% of Christians won't be able to remember the last time you sincerely thanked your God. And, about 5% of you will answer that you thank him nearly every day.
So, 95% of you believe that YOU make all the good things happen and God is just a force that tries to get in your way. Then, by all means, please answer me just one more thing: Why do you worship a god whom you believe is trying to destroy you?
P.s. Sorry if some of this didn't make any sense. It's 1:40am here and I'm running on empty
God is real. I'm saved something happened to me the day I called on God and gave my life to His hands. it was real not some dilusional "state" of mind. I wasn't rolling around on the floor gibbering or anything like that, I KNEW He was tugging at me. Literally a warmth spread over me and things have never been the same since. I "see" things now. meaning I have a clearer view of things around me an understanding which God says in the Bible He gives us at that time. Laugh and make comments all you want to belittle me and my belief and God but I KNOW. I can't help what others believe and don't believe. You make a choice, The bible has NEVER been proven wrong. If you think it's contradicting or impossible or whatever excuse that's been used throughout the years then it's YOUR lack of understanding. Granted I don't know everything. it's impossible to do that. our minds aren't equipped to handle it. When people say there is no proof of God I have to shake my head.
Kinda like my saying I don't believe wind exists. Have you ever seen the wind?? No you've seen the results of a wind in trees blowing damage being done etc. Wind can't be seen but it's there, it's real. Just look around everything works together in perfect harmony for the survival of all things on this planet. It didn't "just happen" and it didn't happen from a sludge pool either.
Are you trying to make ppl see things your way? I believe in god..on some level..But i would never ramble on like a mad bugger about why everyone else should believe too. Free choice.
Rubbish. Your invisible super being is a figment of your imagination and you are not saved. You get to die along with the rest of us. The bible need to be re-written every few years because it has been disproven time and time again.
Evolution explains where you came from. A clever monkey - that is all you are. Sorry.
God = wind now? Oh - I see what you are getting at. Variations in pressure cause air to flow from one place to another. But - because we are not fitted with a barometer (god's plan for humans) and can only sense these things using instruments (the devil's work) therefore there is an invisible super being in the sky.
I am sure the delusion makes you feel better though.
Sure - it didn't just happen. It was all put there............... especially..... for us. Nothing else makes any sense.
I always get a charge out of people who claim beyond a shadow of a doubt their physical conditions are the result of a gods intervention. "Warm spreading over me" could simply be hot flashes. You "see" things now? Did your eyes change or something? Seriously.
That is most definitely a delusion.
Yes, it is real and it is there, and yes, you can see it, just not with human eyes. That's where we utilize these wonderful instruments called "microscopes." Check them out, you'll like them.
You appear to be quite certain about that, but it is most likely a result of not knowing anything about it, and instead being glued to a bible.
I am right there with you on these thoughts. Keep the faith and I hope you are doing well. God Bless, Holly
All of those critisizing everyone's beliefs is no better than the next. Far out. Free choice is what we all have. It's our right! It belongs to everyone, who are you to try take that away from someone?
I could quote the entire Book of Job from the Bible for a possible answer, but I guess that would take up way to much space here lol
Donkey got a lot of people to read his hub, anyway. Life isn't all bad, Donkey!
It sure seems like a ton of atheists are commenting on this though. I'm guessing whenever a religious topic comes up, they all just unite and try to make you look stupid and delusional?
No, usually the authors do that quite adequately themselves.
That is what usually happens to these threads...Try to talk to other christians about christian matters on these forums then watch the non believers do their chilish thing. It used to upset me, but now I just laugh at their inability to pass up an opportunity to be mature and considerate. God Bless, Holly
well, you know...God has those awful hangovers...and when they happen...he just gets pissed...and starts throwing things.
u will found your answer in reincarnation, as according to hindu mythology good and bad things happen due to our good or bad acts in our life, or past life as a famous proverb says , what u sow u have to reap,
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