So do you think it's possible Satan is a woman?

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   Sunshiney31posted 14 years ago

   An exact opposite of God  Satan being a woman makes some sense to me....?

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      (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Satan being a figment of the imagination makes more sense to me.

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         starme77posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Good One

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      Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Lucifer is a "son " of god, Check Job.

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         Sunshiney31posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes but we are all sons of God and I'm a woman sooo??

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            Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Good point.

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      Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your assumption of God being a man colors your assumption that God's supposed opposite would be a woman.
      
      I think it more likely that the next president of the United States be an amoeba, as I think this fairly represents the level of difference between humanity and the divine...

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         LOL
         
         But Mikel - I am really surprised at you - according to your "logic," she has a 50/50 chance of being right..........
         
         Pretty good odds in fact.
         
         Just remember - if you can't disprove it - it is probably true.
         
         Dear me.

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            Sunshiney31posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well really Mark Knowles I was just sitting and thinking about the evil deeds that are done to people everyday.My thought of Satan possibly being a woman entity is how cunning and manipulative he is or she is.I don't really see a mans mind going into those depths of deceit..I was looking into old Hebrew text and Satan is actually referred to as a woman...I don't know it may all be nonsense but I thought it to be an interesting subject .Maybe looking at calamity a different way...

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            Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes she does have a 50/50 chance of being correct, because there is no proof either way.
            
            The absence of proof and the fact that there is a 50/50 chance does NOT however make it 'probable' it simply makes it possible.
            
            I'm begining to think that your constant changing(creative editing) of the things I post isn't from a lack of understanding on your part, which I was assuming, because your replies don't come across as overly intelligent. But I'm starting to believe that this tactic is being used merely because you don't have any other way to dispute that which you disagree with...???
            
            Implying that someone said something which they didn't just makes it appear like there is an inability to understand what they posted but perhaps it is a bait and switch tactic?

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               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I dunno Mikel. By your logic - 50/50 is not only possible - it has a 50% chance of being right. Right? Sounds like one in two to me.
               
               In fact - it sounds probable to me.
               
               But - I will ask any way..............
               
               At what odds does something become "probable."? LOLOLOLO

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               (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               You are dismissing all other possibilities and alternatives with that claim, hence it is not a 50/50 chance.

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      Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Succubus!

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      BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You've met my ex-wife's attorney, I see.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      sometimes i think that the God depicted in the Bible is a woman.
      
      a woman suffering from PMS. plus, you know how some women try to lay heavy mind trips on people? and temperamental? sheesh!
      
      i think Satan, if there is one, is a man, definitely. only a man could organize minions and run such a successful operation as Hell must be. he's like a warden, or something.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No.
      Satan is one of the fallen angels.
      Angels are non-gender.

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         Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hello Brenda....  I was trying to think of scripture that would substanciate this claim and couldn't think of one.  Then I thought about Jesus saying that Man in the after life do not enter into marriage, not sure about the sexless thing..
           Then I remembered that the sons of God came down and took all that they wanted of the daughters of man and then there were Giants? in the land.
            These sons of God are then called fallen angels.
         
            We need more clarification as to what the definition of sons of God, angels are ???  and We are sons of God too ??
         
             I'm confused !

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            Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hebrews 1: 14 describes the angels as "spirits".
            
            I once had a book by Ron Rhodes (a Catholic, no less ((go figure!  At least he is if I remember correctly...)) called Angels Among Us--Separating Truth from Fiction, or similar.....it explained the nature of angels, giving Biblical proof.   Really good.  I've since lost the book but am thinking of ordering it.
            You might look it up?

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               Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I don't intend to sound as if I an argueing,
               Just saying that the sons of God or fallen angels spoken of in Genesis must have had sexual desires and the ability to fulfill them? Maybe fallen isn't the best translation.
                  Maybe crosing over is a better translation.And there is no sexual activity on that side and when they cross over to here they are more like us?
                 The more I think about it, the more I like the crossing over concept better than the FALLING down.

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         cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         then why does the Bible refer to him as "him"?

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      CrystalStarWomanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I don't believe in Satan - and if there is a God, she's probably a woman

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      Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      i always thought like god, satan could possess the form of whatever he/she wanted.  as their both entities, and not physical beings like us.

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       mtsi1098posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I'm not saying satin is a woman but I never see my mother-in-law and satan at the same time

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   a.l. lauriceposted 14 years ago

   I do sort of imagine Satan as being at least somewhat adrogynous.

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   CMHypnoposted 14 years ago

   As Satan doesn't exist, I would have to say no.
   
   And if there is a god, why would it have to be a man?
   
   Woman have enough problems to contend with in this world, without having the satan title hung on them as well.

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   possible?
   
   It is certain!
   
   I ran into her at a night club five years ago

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You ran into my ex-wife?  Hopefully you mean that literally and with a motor vehicle of some sort.

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         BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Your ex-wife was my ex-wife's attorney? Small world!

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Youe ex-wife's attorney was Roseanne Barr?
            
            Amazing!

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               BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               

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   Hokeyposted 14 years ago

   Satan? That's the tooth fairy right? 

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   ralwusposted 14 years ago

   My second wife, yes

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   mega1posted 14 years ago

   satan is whoever - sometime male, sometimes female, sometimes neither!

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   Disturbiaposted 14 years ago

   Satan is most definately a woman and she's the mother of my grandson!

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   foreignpressposted 14 years ago

   Satan is a spiritual entity, just as God is a spiritual entity. Satan can be visible or invisible and can enter the mind -- but not the soul -- at will.

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      Sunshiney31posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree

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    LegendaryHeroposted 14 years ago

    If course he is - women are the root of all evil!
    
    

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       BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You obviously have met my ex-wife's attorney.

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          Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          
          
          my ex-wife is/was an atheist. but the math is the same.

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    goldenpathposted 14 years ago

    I don't believe Lucifer was female.  All spirits do have gender.  It is at the very fabric of our eternal existence.  We were male/female when we lived with the Father before our birth, and we shall continue to be our respective genders after.

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       BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       OK, then, my ex-wife's attorney was a cross dressing satan ...

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          goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Now, that's a good one! But really - in this day and age is it really that hard to believe that your ex's attorney is a cross dresser?

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    Dalyinxposted 14 years ago

    I don't think Satan has a gender.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago

    And Jerami...
    
    I'm not sure those "sons of God" in Genesis were angels, although that's a rather common interpretation.
    Do you know where it might say they were angels?
    Yeah good subject for research.
    I've also done a bit of mulling on the subject of giants, period, in the Bible.   They were usually enemies of God's sons....

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       BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The same hebrew term translated "Sons of God" ... ben-elohim used in Genesis 6 is used in the book of Job, Chapter 1. Satan is one of the ben-elhoim ...
       
       From KJV:
       
       Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
       
       Compare to
       
       Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
       
       OK, hmmm... so maybe my ex-wife's attorney was a cross-dressing satan.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Just because Satan was among them doesn't necessarily mean he was one of them!

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             BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Agreed, but that is the source of the interpretation.

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       Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I'm not sure sometimes if things that I am thinking is actually scriptural or just stuff that has been taught.
          I know that these sons of God are ofter refered to as fallen angels??

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    Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago

    Jerami,
    You don't believe 1/3 of the angels fell from Heaven??

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       Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I've begun to question more and more, not so much the scriptures them selves but the translations and interpretations there of.  I would believe that they did.  What that actually means I am not sure. Could be refering to numerious things that took place.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          The Bible says his (Satan/Lucifer's) tail drew 1/3 of the stars of Heaven, if I'm not mistaken.
          
          It would be silly to assume those were actual stars.
          
          So....it takes really looking "between the lines" sometimes to understand what's being said Biblically....

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             BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             That's a common interpretation of Revelation 12:4

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             Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I am not sure if it makes any diffrence at all,if the sons of God are also refered to as Angels. Or if they are two diffrent kinds of entities.
                But if we are also sons of God in the same manor as those that are described in Genesis?  This would open the door to another realm of possabilities.
             
                I wonder if Jesus adressed any of these issues while he was walking and talking with his desciples??  It seems that there would be so much more to teach than these things that he taught that were recorded.
                
               And if there were more, why were they not included into the canon?,

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    AEvansposted 14 years ago

    lolololo Satan is not a woman if he was then he would have been a Lesbian that lured her into trouble. I still believe it is a man.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago

    It's like the "name-it-claim-it" Believers who say they can "call those things that are not as though they be"........
    
    If one looks up that verse, it says it's GOD who calls those things into existence, not us..

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       Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       interesting take, Brenda.
       
       I agree, it is misinterpreted.
       
       The translation is to 'manifest', as in bringing the things of Elohim to light, as did Y`shua -who is the manifest Word.
       John's letter regarding the Word & Testimony of Y`shua Moshiach supports this. The true Spirit of Prophecy/Revealing the Mystery.
       
       Religious folk assume it is to call forth books, money, cars and what-not. Unlikely, since none of those things expresses the Divine Will and Divine Purpose of human beings.

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    Twenty One Daysposted 14 years ago

    those 'stars' where seraph, fellow entities.
    
    Seraphim (translation: the burning ones; beings of fire; stars)
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    HaSatan: accuser; prosecutor; brings ones sin before the court.

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       BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Ah HA!  I knew it! Satan is an attorney!

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          Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          yip.
          Called the accuser of the Brethren; the liar -or as Jim Carey said- lawyer. jeje

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    Satan can be whatever you want it to be.
    That, if you believe in it.

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       Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       like Visa?! jejejeje.

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    Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago

    In Hebrew the word transliterated as Satan means adversary. And who is our greatest enemy? It is our own EGO.

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Smartypants! Hello you clever girl.
       I love your succinct replies.

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          Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Very true, and the Ego is  not gender specific.  Such a dumb question.

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          Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Earnest. Thank you. I think your words can be the greatest compliment.
          People like to put evil off on something other then human..

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Well said again. The "old devil in the corner trick" as Maxwell Smart would say.

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                Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                

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       BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I don't know about the details, but you're on to something, at least in principle, there. In several places in scripture it refers to "Lucifer's sin", "the devil's sin" or "Satan's sin" and in those cases it's referring to the sin of pride, which is, of course, ego.

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    moondiveposted 14 years ago

    Hahah very interesting. But chance are 50/50

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    I think it is more likely that satan is a fable.

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       china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, without doubt   -    a female fable   

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    jdbrown426posted 14 years ago

    Satan is neither a man nor a woman, just as God also has no gender. Satan was an angel, a creation of God, however not in God's image and likeness, for only mankind out of all of God's creations were created in His image and likeness. Satan has no gender, he is only a fallen angel and a devil. To think that Satan is a woman implies that a woman is sinical, evil, and deviant. A man can also be such a evil, but because Satan is evil and deceitful, he carries the attributes of being persuasive and sinical. He tempts you with such things that feeds your desires and pleasures.

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       (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I see believers still refuse to take responsibility for their actions, the status quo.

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          jdbrown426posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Nah, not all believers refuse. We all have a choice. Sin is a choice. Fulfilling your lusts is a choice. It is not Satan's fault for presenting it. It is not God's fault for allowing it. We all have a choice. Everyone, regardless of religious beliefs, should take responsibility for their actions because only they are in charge of their own lives. Choice.

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             What choice do most of the worlds women and children have who live in abject poverty?
             NONE, that is an exact measure by the way!

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                jdbrown426posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                They have a choice to serve God, who will raise them up.

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                   Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   

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                   earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   You can say that with a straight face?

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                   china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   That is why they forced christianity on slaves in the south - the line was that the more you suffer here the more you get in the hereafter.

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                   Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Do you truly believe this? All joking aside. Please explain.

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                      Pandoras Boxposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Hokey! Hokey, hokey, hokey, hokey!
                      
                      Glad yer back, my friend. Your harem was quite in an uproar without you!

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                         Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         Hey PB!!! I am glad to be here! Really! Why should I be gone when the offending person left? So here I am!

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                            earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            My crystal ball works!

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                               jdbrown426posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               I'll explain. Poverty isn't a choice, just as a child who is born into an inheritance is not a choice of the individual in the situation. The individual was placed in the situation. It is the individual's choice of what he/she will do in the situation. People believe that God will simply rain down food to those in poverty, and it is NOT so, however, it IS very possible. But, God created us to be like Him (love, kindness, giving). There are many wealthy people in the world, who can help those that are unfortunate, but even they have a choice. As far as God is concerned, God supplies His children's needs - if they call on Him and believe in Him, and He will do it through people, through coincidences, or even miraculous events. Those who are without, if they believe on Him, they have the confidence that He will bring them through the storm, and I am a witness to that.

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                                  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                  If you were bought up in a rubbish tip with your only family all crippled and diseased all you would need to do is believe as you do?
                                  Total bull in my view.

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                                     jdbrown426posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                     Its about having faith, no matter how long it takes for change to come. I am assuming that you don't believe in God.

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                      Sunshiney31posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      No I don't truely believe Satan is a woman. I just thought about what could be....I got people talking though and that's what I wanted.

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    Will Apseposted 14 years ago

    There is a famous statue of St Michael triumphing over Satan on the facade of Coventry Cathedral. It is fantastic piece of sculpture (by Epstein)and very powerful. I saw it regularly as a child.
    
    I was  always very impressed by the size of Satan's penis. It must have been half a ton of solid bronze and probably measured about five feet from end to end. St Michael was modestly dressed in a sort of skirt.
    
    Anyway, it is tough to think of Satan as anything other than male after that kind of exposure.
    
    Link below, not showing the pieces you might not want to see.
    
    http://www.knowledgerush.com/wiki_image … ictory.jpg

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       Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Very nice

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    borge_009posted 14 years ago

    Maybe.  because
    
    satan=temptation=woman.  LOL.

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       Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Isn't it that man  has problem with control?

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          borge_009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You're right there.  hehe.

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    jasonkern51posted 14 years ago

    Satan is Satan.......A-sexual messes with men as much as women....50/50 is right.......BOTH..........says it all....

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    brianzenposted 14 years ago

    Satan is a collective, Not unlike legion, Lucifer is the spesific vestibule and Billy Corgin is the lead singer of smashing pumpkins but that's another story.

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       Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thats awesome Brian my friend. Such wit! 

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          brianzenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          It will be this way here I think. And how are you this evening?

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    brianzenposted 14 years ago

    Hokey and Pandora's box come on down!

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    JeanMeriamposted 14 years ago

    Wait a minute! I thought satan was a serpent.

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    (Q)posted 14 years ago

    Perhaps, Satan is a simply the shift in responsibility of the believer when they do bad things. That way, believers can do bad things all the time and never have to accept responsibility for their actions.

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       Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Bravo.  Brilliant statement.

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          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yes! Well said Q

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       jdbrown426posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       My brother, everyone regardless of religious beliefs has to own up to the consequences of their own choices. It is not a matter of blaming it all on Satan. People blame all kinds of things on other people just to save themselves.  A strong person takes responsibility for their actions. Satan is nothing but an evil being, and evil is in the world, but every human being has a choice to do what is wrong or what is right, and thus regardless of whom they place blame on, they cannot escape the fact that they are responsible for their actions.

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    TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

    I have not read this thread. If someone else has already mentioned this, I apologize.
    
    My understanding is that the word "satan" means "enemy." It is not a proper noun, it's a regular word in Hebrew. In other words, "satan" is not an entity - neither male nor female - "satan" is anything that is the enemy of good.
    
    That really opens up the playing field, now doesn't it?

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    AnythingArtzyposted 14 years ago

    Satan was created as a beautiful musical being or angel. and since there are no references to women angels at all in the bible it stands to reason He is male.
    
    Please no nasty comments. You asked and I gave you an informed answer straight from the book that were it not for it you would never have ever heard of any such thing as an angel.

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