Whom do you say He is?

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   Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

   actually, I have told you many times, I know little about Kabbalah and read your hubs about it to learn. After reading it, I see only practitioner, balancing of chakras, the bending of light to your thinking -as if the Light will bend to meet you.
   
   sorry love, i am not buying it.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Balancing of Chakras? Another lie.
      I didn't mention Chakras once.

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   paarsurreyposted 15 years ago

   Twenty One Days wrote:
   ????
   
   "I and my Father are one" John 10.30
   
   hmmm.
   
   Deborah Sexton wrote:
   
   Yes, in one accord. Agreeing. We were told to be one as they were one. Can we jump into one body altogether..or can we be of one mind and one accord.
   
   Reading yet not understanding..hummmm
   
   No he never taught he was God.
   
   I posted several scriptures showing where he said he isn't.
   
   Paarsurrey says:
   
   Hi friend Deborah Sexton
   
   I agree with you here.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Beelzedadposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Does not compute. Dzzt.

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   Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

   IntimatEvolution wrote:
   
       21, remember to consider the source.  And do not let anyone tell you what or what not to do.  You want to pray for somebody, do it.  It is not about them appreciating it, it is about you leaning on your faith.smile
   
       JoelMcLendon wrote:
   I am doing just that.
   
   
   so, that is that.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Again, IE was replying to you about me.
      He was saying to IE that he was considering the source too..(Speaking of IE) not you.
      
      It didn't concern you at all, mr know it all.
      Your face should be red by now for your error in understanding.
      
      Can you understand what people say?

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   Deborah Sextonposted 15 years ago

   T.O.D.
   
   You wrote "Yet, you parade as an angel of light, swallowing the simple and fearful."
   
   What is this suppose to mean? you put words together that are meaningless. Is this to sound big? Your words make no sense at all..

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      Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      you know exactly what they mean. Why do you try and bait me?

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   SirDentposted 15 years ago

   Pro 26:4  Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      If you're calling me a fool say it directly to me..and I won't reply to you because we aren't suppose to reply to fools.
      
      You have no idea who I am..so mind your own when it comes to calling me names.

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         SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         That was a general statement that I made for more than one person.
         
         Why do you take everything to be personal against you?
         
         I know you more than you might think just from reading what you write.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            No you don't know me at all. You replied to me. It was between TOD's post and mine. Since he says he's Christian and you agree with him..you said it to me. I AM NOT STUPID..stop lying mr. christian.

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               SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               You are paranoid.

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Wrong, you need the Spirit of God.
                  If you would like to know him let me know.

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                     SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Who can ascend to the heavens? Who can give advice to God? How can you introduce anyone to the spirit of God?

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                        Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        Isn't that what Christians are always trying to do?

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                           SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           Christians are to walk in the spirit. The Holy Ghost does the introductions.

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                              Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              Hopefully not in the spirit you walk in.

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                                 SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 Nice insult. Sounds just like the pharisees of Jesus day.
                                 
                                 I would love to play more, but it is late here and you do not play well with others anyway.
                                 
                                 Good night everyone

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                        Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        spot on, SD. I told her that a day or two ago, NO ONE can teach the spirit or about the Spirit, unless they ARE Elohim. Only one other creature in history said they could do that. And also stated they would ascend the throne...

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               Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I have never stated I was a christian.
               again your tongue convicts you.

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Again thinking my reply to someone else was to you.

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                     SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     You eaquated TOD with Christians therefore calling him a Christian also.

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                        Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        Just giving you what you dish out. Can't take it?

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                     Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     um, as far as I know, there is only one TOD in the room.
                     so again, more of the same.

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               SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Report my post then and let's see what happens.
               
               This is personal to you and you alone. You go around the forums posting your crap. You act like you do no wrong and that you are always right no matter what you post about.
               
               I believe you are either bipolar or have some other mental illness or unclean spirit(s).

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      Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      but correct one who is astray by works, that the fullness of life might be revealed to them and all who hear the truth.

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         SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Very good. So how do we tell which are fools?

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            Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            by their fruit, by their words and by the spirit in them.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Do you see yourself as having light?

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               SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Do you consider yourself to be the light of the world?

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  No and I have never said I am a light. I do hold truth and light that is not mine.

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                     SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     So then tell me, are you like one of the foolish virgins?

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                        Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        Nothing about me is your business...

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   SirDentposted 15 years ago

   Jewish Mysticism
   
   http://www.lycos.com/info/mysticism--je … icism.html

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   Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

   So he is above others? That is a false witness if I ever heard one.
   Then let him speak for himself. Why do you hide behind him.
   His office is at home, according to his profile and your statements - owning his own internet business and being a rabbi.
   
   But as you said, you are both mystics, so is he not a true irish rabbi as you claim?

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      Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Can you read. He did not say internet business. He has a physical business.
      
      Stop lying and slandering...you child of God...yeah right..

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         Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         no, it says he owns his own business reviewing other websites.
         Yet also he is Irish by name, so how can he be a rabbi?

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            Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Wrong again.
            He owns his own business AND he reviews websites for Jabber.
            Two different things.
            
            Can't you understand English? Or is it the lack of common sense?
            Or do you just like to make things up and slander others who don't agree with you?

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            Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I said to stop lying and slandering us.

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               Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               you are lying and slandering yourselves and certainly do not need anyone's help in that.
               
               my offer still stands -if you BOTH would like to pray with me -either for my enlightenment or your freedom- my door is always open. Enjoy the day!

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               Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               you said? LOL. who are you that we should be mindful of you. Does anyone care what you think -as you said of my wife???
               
               your words condemn you, again.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            You need to get off the little yellow bus.

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               SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I think TOD is on a yellow submarine.

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                  Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  lol. thanks Dent.

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   Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

   Joel McLendon...I run my own business...
   I review websites on Jabber...I have given Hubpages a good grade...
   
   Yet yours says he is in the ministry
   so, did he 'mis-speak'?
   
   
   apparently you do, because YOU mentioned my wife.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      So you take the top of one paragraph and the bottom of another and try to make it say what you have lied about..
      You do see the word Jabber...that belongs to someone else..

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   Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

   anyway, back to the point, you are still attacking, venting, defending, arguing YOUR position -which is not a position at all. Only the anger of a familiar spirit you deny having any association with -though you practice sorcery/divination/tarot, etc -as both your websites state.
   
   hmmm
   
   But you say The Spirit of Truth is in you and EVERYONE else is wrong. Interesting indeed.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Say I have a familiar spirit again and I will think about a slander suit. There are new laws for the internet and I will seek those laws. Time to stop speaking to me altogether.
      
      You slander me, lie on me, misquote us..copy and paste someone else's writing in part to prove your point.
      
      Whatever I am, I would rather be me than you any day.
      
      Stating he has an Irish name?
      I don't use my real last name and neither does he..again is your name Twenty One Days?
      
      Say anything else to me and I will go to Risk Management for legal advice.

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    Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

    feel the love, feel the joy!

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    Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

    SD, you know, i just had yet another person -off hub- ask me why i won't re-enter the atmosphere of ministry. seems a large number of hubbers and friends feel i am over due for a return.
    
    oddly, i dealt much with New Age practitioners and all sorts of strange believers -from demon hunters to alter dancers- priests, rabbis, preachers and the likes of deluge i would be happy to forget.
    
    Even stranger, my better half -who literally has zero knowledge of any scripture or any theism- but believes in Elohim, thinks i am being called back in.

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       SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I cannot tell you if you are being called or not. That is between you and God. I don't know why you stopped before either.
       
       I do know this. God will not call someone to work who is lazy or quits at the drop of a hat. Look at all the prophets of the OT. They had to rely upon God for everything.  They had to live the message they preached. Isaiah was naked for three years if I recall correctly.
       
       Elijah had to go to a certain place where God would sustain him. If he had gone to the wrong place God would have let him suffer.
       
       I think it was Ezekiel who had to lie on his side for a few weeks.
       
       If God has called you to the ministry, you need to get with the program.  Even if He hasn't but you think He has, you need to start ministering. God would rather you mess up trying to do right than do nothing at all.

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          mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          No please dont do that there are too many fake preachers who haven't come across god and guide man wrongly saying Jesus is the greatest  or Islam is the greatest.
          
          These are the ones god despises the most as they only cause ugly wars due to their inflated ego and lack of god knowledge.
          
          First gain enlightenment ,understand the meaning of god and death for oneself and then preach .

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    Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

    that is the strange part.
    have been praying a lot lately -not as most pray- and fasting.
    feels like i am being gleaned yet growing stronger in spirit.
    i have tried to convince myself that i would become like the others before me -salesmen of half truths and false faith.
    
    this is different and altogether refreshing for me!
    like no weight or heavy burden at all.

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    Deborah Sextonposted 15 years ago

    2 Peter 3:3
    Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
    
    1 Timothy 4:2
    Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
    
    
    2 Tim.
    2. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy
    3. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good
    4. Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God
    5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away
    7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth
    8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith
    9. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was

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    SirDentposted 15 years ago

    Jer 14:14  Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
    
    Act 16:16  And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
    
    1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
    
    1Jn 4:3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
    
    2Jn 1:7  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

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       Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I refuse to call you Sir because I am not going to Knight you.
       
       However, why are giving this scripture about Anti-Christ.
       I believe in Yahshua Massiah...who said I don't.
       
       His name was/is not Jesus.
       
       The Massiah was Hebrew, not Greek, Latin nor English.

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       Beelzedadposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Haha! Every religion says the same thing about their gods, SirDent. Yours doesn't have the monopoly on contradiction.

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       Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       You do know Jer. 14 is speaking of False Diviners and Prophets, not real ones.? Don't you?
       Can you connect the dots?

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Please define god Dent and I also refuse to call you sir.Who gave you this title/? have you been knighted?

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    Deborah Sextonposted 15 years ago

    From my hub..Bible proof of Seers..
    
    1 Chronicles 29:
    
    29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,
    
    1 Samuel 9: Samuel was a Seer
    
    6 And he said unto him, Behold now, there is in this city a man of God, and he is an honourable man; all that he saith cometh surely to pass: now let us go thither; peradventure he can shew us our way that we should go.
    
    Samuel is Paid For His Services
    
    7 Then said Saul to his servant, But, behold, if we go, what shall we bring the man? for the bread is spent in our vessels, and there is not a present to bring to the man of God: what have we?
    
    8 And the servant answered Saul again, and said, Behold, I have here at hand the fourth part of a shekel of silver: that will I give to the man of God, to tell us our way.

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    souledout4Himposted 15 years ago

    the uncreated Creator
    the One who dwells in an unapproachable light
    the One who commands and it stands firm
    the One who holds ur life in His hand
    the self existing God
    God all by Himself
    the unchallengable challenger
    He does wat He likes and likes wat He does
    JEHOVAH is His name

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       HE-MAN !!!
       I knew it !
       
       

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       Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Jehovah?

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          BDazzlerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          King James' translators used J rather than Y and V rather than W ... so they transliterated YWHW to JVHV then they added vowels based on their best guesses.
          
          English has obviously changed a lot since 1611.
          
          Because vowels were implied rather than explicit in the earliest Hebrew texts, scholars often need to correct themselves as more reliable manuscripts are uncovered.

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             Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I agree..but it's IHVH. said Yud-Hei-Vav-Hei. and spoken Adonai.Jehovah and Yahweh are guesses and attempts by those outside the Hebrew language.

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                BDazzlerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I think you're right for a while I and J were the same letter.  I'm not enough of a linguistic scholar to remember when they separated.

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             mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             True and oral communication can easily cause a change in spelling due to pronunciation and phonetics. So the name is not o be give so much importance bu the message should be given the importance.

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    Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago

    Sir Dent, was Samuel actually paid although Saul wanted to pay him?
    
    Turns out, Samuel invited Saul to the dinner party and put Saul at the head of the table, which Samuel had set aside before Saul even arrived. Next morning, Samuel anoints Saul, telling him he would be king. And Saul ends up in the procession of the prophets, having the Spirit come upon him.
    
    Pretty cool stuff.

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    Deborah Sextonposted 15 years ago

    Just FYI:
    The Hebrew alphabet has 22 consonant letters. Modern Hebrew is written using Aramaic print letters, from right to left. Hebrew has no W, J or X.
    
    Several Hebrew letters are written differently at the end of the word - These are: Chaf, Mem, Nun, Phey and Tzadi.
    
    The Messiah came to reveal God's name and said he came in God's name which is Yah therefore Yah Shua.
    
    The reason the Hebrews considered God's name to be unspeakable was because there were no vowels at the time as you stated..only Consonants and a word or name with only consonants can't be spoken because without vowels there is not enough breath to say it.
    
    However it was never taboo to say God's name except by those who were superstitious.
    
    The Messiah, knowing God's name was important came to reveal that name to those who were of God. Those who weren't couldn't see it. That's why when Yah Shua was on the cross, they thought he cried out to Eliyah instead of Yah.

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    ralwusposted 15 years ago

    I will go out on the proverbial limb here once. If you really read the whole Bible and 'get' it, he is God himself, father in the godhead, son in his humanity and comforter in the holy ghost and these three are ONE. That's all I got to say about that, and you know his name. Alpha and Omega, old and new

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