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Why do some plants and animals live longer than humans?

  1. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    What do you believe is the reason that some plants and animals live longer than humans when we are supposedly the superior life?

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      cosetteposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      i think humans tend to reduce their lifespan with bad food choices. plus trees don't go around killing each other...wink

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The slower you grow proportionally, the slower you die proportionally.  The cell growth rate in say for an example a tree is much slower than in humans.  So they reach full maturity much older, and take even longer to wither away.

      1. northweststarr profile image79
        northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        So actually as society is getting taller and bigger at a faster rate and maturing earlier. (9 year olds getting their periods) We're actually on the road to a shorter lifespan.  Well, that's probably nature's own solution to our overpopulation problem... sad

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And then so much for our superiority...well said.

          1. northweststarr profile image79
            northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Do I get a cookie? smile

            1. Sally's Trove profile image84
              Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You may have any cookie you like...you deserve that.

              1. northweststarr profile image79
                northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I think I'll have some milk too, so the growth hormones in the cow can shorten my lifespan even more...

                1. Sally's Trove profile image84
                  Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Alas for the poor cows. They didn't ask for that hormone. Humans did that to them.

      2. Sally's Trove profile image84
        Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There is also the condition of indeterminate growth. Some reptiles will continue to grow, given the right conditions of adequate food source and no predators, to a size and age as yet unknown. They don't seem to have the "aging" gene.

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Why would this be still be evolved in the reptiles and turned off in humans or any other life? The purpose of evolution is for life to adapt and survive, why would it turn off a gene that allows life to live longer?

          1. Sally's Trove profile image84
            Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            What is the "it" you speak of? The purpose of evolution? Or something else?

            Why shouldn't this longevity gene be turned off in humans? Each species evolves in a different way.

            That does lead us to wonder if alligators are superior to humans.

            What a great crock!

            If the purpose of evolution, as you say, is for life to adapt and survive, then the crocs have it over the humans.

            Ain't life grand? Cockroaches beat us humans in terms of survivability as well.

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Why would evolution turn off the gene when the purpose is to survive as long as possible? Maybe natures way of dealing with overpopulation? I don't think any animals or plants have adaptability over us in terms of exploration, if the planet was destroyed, we are the only ones that have capability to colonize another planet and explore space.

    3. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is one of the most provoking and fun threads I've seen in a long time. Thank you for that.

    4. andromida profile image75
      andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Perhaps they fall under a different category of superiority.

      1. northweststarr profile image79
        northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, but this is superiority in general we are discussing, right?  Or is there a specific type of superiority marine had in mind when he started this forum?

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Considering this thread exists in the Religion & Beliefs category, what do you think?

          1. northweststarr profile image79
            northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Oh dear, I think I'm lost... sad

            1. Sally's Trove profile image84
              Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              No you are not lost! smile

              You said this:

              "Yes, but this is superiority in general we are discussing, right?  Or is there a specific type of superiority marine had in mind when he started this forum?"

              He didn't start this thread in history or philosophy or food forums; so, there must be a reason for starting it in religion.

              How about moral or religious superiority, as opposed to sociological or intellectual superiority?

              1. northweststarr profile image79
                northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                My dog has a soul.  I firmly believe it.

                1. Sally's Trove profile image84
                  Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  And I sincerely believe that your dog and my recently departed pup just may have more superiority than any human, when measured by pure, unencumbered, unquestioned spirit and soul.

                  1. northweststarr profile image79
                    northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    big_smile big_smile big_smile

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Stress. lol big_smile

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      Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      they dont overeat, get stressed, drink too much beer, smoke....

  2. Sally's Trove profile image84
    Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago

    Well, we aren't the superior life as defined by longevity, considering redwoods and alligators that live for many more years beyond the human span.

    Plants and animals live longer than humans for reasons that are still not understood. What a nice mystery.

  3. skyfire profile image70
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    In terms of survival ? Nah..

    1. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Cockroaches come to mind...perhaps not as individuals, but certainly as a species that has been around for so many more years than the human's paltry few tens of thousands.

  4. skyfire profile image70
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Cockroaches, Turtles and many other species from ocean are mystery...For plants i think they find more ways to survival than humans.

    1. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That's so interesting about plants. You can take a spider plantling, stick it in some water, and it makes a plant true to its parents. This isn't cloning, it's just a matter of how the plant propagates. Spider plants have probably been around for millions of years...how do you do that procreation magic with a human?

      1. skyfire profile image70
        skyfireposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Interesting, one more thing is plants shows seasonal changes which we human don't show (correct me if i'm wrong here)changes as in flowers/fruit and color of leaves etc.

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I do think that humans show seasonal changes, as evidenced by depression or seasonal affect disorder, or sun tans or energy levels.  However, humans have a tendency to refuse to acknowledge similarities between themselves and the rest of the physical world. So arrogant we can be.

          1. skyfire profile image70
            skyfireposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I'm not aware of seasonal affect disorder...have to google i think...

      2. TheGlassSpider profile image74
        TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Have you tried sticking a finger in some water and seeing what would happen? wink







        I AM only kidding.

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          LOL! I'd like to say I have. But usually when I stick my finger in water, it's accompanied by dish detergent, and I suppose that nasty chemical compound kills any hope I have for kicking myself into a new generation.

          1. TheGlassSpider profile image74
            TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            LOL when I wrote that I was thinking of a dismembered finger...LOL just like with the plant....I know, I know...I'm sick.


            Thank GOD washing the dishes doesn't result in clone children. *whew!*

            1. Sally's Trove profile image84
              Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              LOLOLOL...I needed a belly laugh!

              1. northweststarr profile image79
                northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                >snicker< big_smile

              2. TheGlassSpider profile image74
                TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                So glad I could oblige *bows* I'll be here all week wink

  5. Greek One profile image76
    Greek Oneposted 7 years ago

    ... because plants don't hit on  barflies named Sandra at 2:00 am in the morning, and then go home with her and the various life-threatening viruses she has picked up over the last 2 decades

    1. Doug Hughes profile image61
      Doug Hughesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Do you have Sandra's phone number? My shots are up-to-date.

      1. Greek One profile image76
        Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        just go to your local gas station and enter any stall.. it should be written there

      2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        8 6 7 5309... wait, that's Jenny

    2. skyfire profile image70
      skyfireposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      rofl....  lol

    3. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Those viruses she picked up have been around in one form or another for millions of years...far superior to humans in terms of longevity.

      1. Greek One profile image76
        Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you don't know her ike I do...

        her uterus is a pietri dish that is hosting the formation of dangerous new life forms as we speak

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And I'm glad I don't...

          Viruses take every opportunity to mutate and propagate. For all you know, there's a colony breeding in you.

          1. Greek One profile image76
            Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I've always wanted kids!

        2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          TKs?

          1. Greek One profile image76
            Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Welcome?

  6. waynet profile image46
    waynetposted 7 years ago

    Because they don't drink and smoke and do every drug known!

    1. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You are right; they don't do that. But humans have subjected them to pesticides and herbicides for at least the last 80 years, and still, they continue to thrive. I can't help but think how short-sighted we humans are. Superior?  HA!

      1. Greek One profile image76
        Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        didnt you see how Will Smith killed that alien cockroach in Men in Black?

        Killed him good, he did!

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          bully for him

  7. northweststarr profile image79
    northweststarrposted 7 years ago

    We're a superior life form? According to who? Besides us of course. Don't think anyone else really has a vote... wink

    1. Greek One profile image76
      Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      the ability to vote on this question makes us superior!

    2. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      amen.

  8. Michael Willis profile image77
    Michael Willisposted 7 years ago

    They don't go through Religious and Political Debates. LOL

  9. Greek One profile image76
    Greek Oneposted 7 years ago

    unless and until and animal can BBQ me up, spread mayo on me, and put me in between two slices of bread, I refuse to acknowledge it's superiority

    1. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, but, one may invade your intestines and eat you from the inside. What do you think of that?

      1. Greek One profile image76
        Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        eat me without condiments?

        That is a sign of inferiority

        1. Sally's Trove profile image84
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          ahhhhh, Greek One, you are in such pleasant denial.

          1. Greek One profile image76
            Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you said it sister!! smile

            1. Sally's Trove profile image84
              Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe the word should have been euphoric rather than pleasant...whichever, you excel at this gift.

  10. northweststarr profile image79
    northweststarrposted 7 years ago

    What no one else believes in extraterrestrial or extradimensional lifeforms? big_smile

    1. Greek One profile image76
      Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm familar with two that have visited us..

      http://totallywiredradio.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/et.jpg

      1. northweststarr profile image79
        northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        >snicker< smile

  11. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    humans ... we like to think were different. look into any pair of eyes . anteater to zebra . look really hard. i think you will see we aren't. and as far as trees go ? their just a lot smarter than we.

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      "They're just a lot smarter," aware. Jeez superior life forms would know how to hyphenate their own language, right?

    2. Sally's Trove profile image84
      Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well then, let's see. The original question centered about superiority; now you bring up the question of smartness. No one has yet defined the terms. What is superior; what is smart? Intriguing.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I would say the most complex minded is the higher consciousness for having the most capabilities to explore.

  12. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    maybe ignorance is bliss. thinking to much. a flaw.i read it as live longer. anything after the first question mark in any question is. ... static to me. one day can outlive a lifetime.wana live longer than anything ever has? make every day count.

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh goddess, I think I might as well just go slit my wrists now.

  13. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    why  do that?

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      wink

  14. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    ill come up with better answers
    i sware

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      AAAAAAhhhh! English abuse! Aware, you are in violation of code YCS (You Can't Spell)  in the Writer's handbook! You have the right to remain silent! Anything you say can be used against you in the court of the current forum and you are entitled to a jury of your peers... or whoever's here at the moment. wink

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        Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I diclair him inn-o-cent.  ha

        1. northweststarr profile image79
          northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          and we have a hung jury...

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            Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            ahhaahaa.
            well then, he gets to go free.

  15. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    you spell tomato i spell tamato . i wrote it . tell me what you think

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, the poem?

      1. northweststarr profile image79
        northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        ... very mainstream.  Keep working on it and try to make it less generalized.  It's not a bad premise for a poem but the execution is a little uninspired. Keep "static to me" Definitely lose "ignorance is bliss" and "make every day count." The point of a poem is to present your own original ideas not to spout other people's but it's not a bad effort.  I've seen a lot worse on hubs.

  16. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    you tell me am i a poet?

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      you know it...

  17. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    why don't weeds have the same life span as trees? charisma maybe .

  18. aware profile image70
    awareposted 7 years ago

    not my post my hub.   the tomato thing . id appreciate some feed back on  it or any of my junk i like your tips .

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Feedback is ok, I can do that.  smile

  19. Sally's Trove profile image84
    Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago

    Gee whiz, where's marinealways24?  Hasn't enough gone on here for a comment or rebuttal, a dash of sage wisdom, or a whatever?

    1. northweststarr profile image79
      northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      He's polishing his sword of truth... wink

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        Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        the bible? lol

        1. northweststarr profile image79
          northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          >snicker<

      2. Sally's Trove profile image84
        Sally's Troveposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Perhaps it's a patient polishing. In which case it takes time. So I hope it gleams when it appears.

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          Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          usally does...I just saw him over to the einsiten thread...

  20. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    You people talking silly? big_smile
    I am waiting to see all the interesting answers. I am kinda pissed off that I thought I was smarter than some animals, yet a slow turtle can outlive me.

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      Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      maybe its the slow that makes 'em live longer.

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        Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        sorry about the silly but you were MIA and we all got bored...

      2. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "maybe its the slow that makes them live longer".

        This could be true, but how?

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      Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      MA, you appear to be looking at that turtle as an inferior creature. Perhaps that turtle represents a lesson all humans should learn -the value of life rests on the individual. A turtle cannot choose when it dies or how long, it is build into them -the bootstrap program. Granted, there are olives trees I have actually seen with my eyes, that are a thousand years old, in Northern California. but who is to say humans should die since we are the only creature on this planet with ability to choose life/death.

      Genetics plays a small part in the argument, consciousness plays a larger part. The key is not the span of time we perceive, but the necessity to live.

      This is what cracks me up about both sides if the Ism -one claims life is endless by ritual belief yet does not adhere to it; the other is working desperately to prolong life only to accept a mythical fate of death.

      Is that turtle smarter or more advanced than humans?
      Makes you wonder...

      1. northweststarr profile image79
        northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Or the dolphins?  Ever read "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy?" There's some food for thought... smile

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          crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It has actually been scientifically proven that dolphins are sentient.  They display complex emotions, can recognize themselves in a mirror, have demonstrated empathy, and are the only other mammals that have sex for pleasure.

          This most specifically applies to the Bottlenose Dolphin.

          1. northweststarr profile image79
            northweststarrposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            See, my point exactly! Thanx crmhaske! wink

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          Twenty One Daysposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          starr, yes, a while back. awesome book!


          crmhaske, i am all for the dolphin position.


          habee: why not?

  21. habee profile image89
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Why should we live longer?

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Shouldn't the most complexed minded be able to figure out how to live the longest?

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    logic,commonsenseposted 7 years ago

    They keep it simple.  Born, eat sleep, have sex, die.

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    mtsi1098posted 7 years ago

    animals do not drink beer, smoke cigars and have to drive to work - I am guessing anyway smile

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    crmhaskeposted 7 years ago

    Animals also don't have complex emotions tied in with longevity.  The human mind isn't equipped to endure.  We are the only living beings that know we die.

  25. mega1 profile image79
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    why is there orange?

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Because red and yellow had way too much to drink.

      1. mega1 profile image79
        mega1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yes!  I knew there would be an answer!  Thanks!  now I can rest easy. big_smile:

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          crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Great!  Red hasn't been able to rest easy though - no matter how hard he tries, he just can't erase that night's memory o_O

    2. Beelzedad profile image58
      Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Blue light waves are absorbed. smile

  26. skyfire profile image70
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Dolphins ? I guess not but asking anyway.

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Granted we have no way to know conclusively at present; however, they do not appear to exhibit any closure behaviours similar to the way humans "get their affairs in order" when they know the end is near.  No other living species besides humans seem to attempt to make any preparations for those they will leave behind, which is a major indicator of the knowledge of mortality.  Evidence suggests however the some species are capable of "sensing" when another member of their species is close to death, and some even appear to mourn the passing - but there appears to be no consistency across species in this behaviour.  I think that would be an interesting course of study.

 
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