Have you ever heard the voice of God and if so what was spoken to you?
We would first have to know what the voice of god sounds like to know he spoke. Does anyone really know that?
Beelzedad, it is hard to explain, but I wrote a Hub called A life changing Whisper and I try to explain exactly what I heard. I would imagine that each person would hear differently.
Then, they are not hearing the voice of a god, but instead the voice inside their head, just like everyone else.
Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet Him.
"My sheep shall know my voice." Listen to every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and obey." Beelzedad, you either seek to be One who believes and shall hear God's voice or you can remain totally deaf and blind to the workings of the Spirit of God.
The smart a** at it again! Though this time spills forth truth instead of so much discrimination.
When I hear spirit speak sometimes I can't distinguish always whose telling me the information so I call them spirit. Unless I know first hand who it is. Like if it is my spirit guide. Or some other spirit.
Hope that helps!
There's really no need to be insulting just because you pretend to have special powers when you most certainly don't.
Because you dont have any special gifts or rather haven't yet come across them as yet doesn't mean no one else doesn't.
Beelzedad-WHY DO YOU INSIST ON ABUSING ALBERT EINSTEN?
After showing yo he doesn't like atheists misquoting him in their favor you still use his picture and air your views
What is wrong with you? Why do you have to keep abusing Einstein?
He was a great man and doesn't deserve to be abused, please stop this non sense.
I was praying for my husband to be saved and I would hear a voice say "You won't have him long after he is saved." I would hesitate because I didn't want to lose him, but then I would think how his eternity was more important than here, now. Then I would continue praying. There was quite a few times that happened, I would here that I wouldn't have him long after he is saved. My husband was saved in March 1998 and past away in June 1998.
Hi friend stilljustwonderin
One can have an experience or two like this if the Creator-God Allah YHWH wills; but the Converse like a friend talks with a friend happens only to the Messengers Prophets of the Creator-God Allah YHWH like He talked with Moses or with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi. He mentions it in many a books written by him in this connection.
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News Flash, it happens to us every day people too God will talk to any one, ya just have to listen. I know for a fact that was said to me as I prayed, and just like he told me, I didn't have my husband long after he was saved. Maybe you don't have a close relationship with your God, but some people do. Jesus is our friend. Friends some times talk.
Hi friend stilljustwonderin
Jesus died a natuarl and peaceful death in Kashmir, India and is buried there. He cannot talk to anybody. Sorry.
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Please reveal to me the place that Jesus is buried if you can?
"i am an Ahmadi Muslim, and im always right, and i have all of the answers. I am a huge a$$hole"
Haha, paarsurrey, Jesus did not die in Kashmir?
According to Islam, Jesus was taken into heaven alive. Get your facts straight...
I hear the voice of God every single day in every single situation
He always speaks Truth.
To Jesus Heart All Burning
To Jesus Heart all Burning
With fervent love for men
My heart with fondest yearning
shall raise the joyful strain
Chorus
While ages course along
Blest be with loudest song
The Sacred Heart of Jesus
By ev'ry heart and tongue
The Sacred Heart of Jesus
By ev'ry heart and tongue.
O Heart for me on fire
With love no man can speak
My yet untold desire
God gives me for Thy sake
True I have forsaken
Thy flock by wilful sin
Yet now let me be taken
Back to Thy fold again
Cor Jesu Salus In Te Sperantium
Cor Jesu salus in te sperantium miserere nobis
Cor Jesu spes in te morientium miserere nobis
Cor Jesu deliciae sanctorum omnium
Miserere miserere nobis
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When I was a child (maybe 8) I was visiting some friends who had eight children. I was sent to find the young boys for lunch. I was running all over their large farm searching and I remember a voice telling me as clear as day "Go to the dam." I went there and the boys (aged under six) were attempting to take a tinny out into the dam. They couldn't swim. I shudder to think what could have happened.
I am not a christian. So I don't claim it was god. But I do know something sent me to the dam that day...
Hi friend WryLilt
The Creator-God Allah YHWH could talk to anyone so that one knows that He can talk to; being a Christian is not essential; they are mythical.
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Think Allah would speak in Arabic with a nasal voice?
Or would he speak like God in The Ten Comandment's...Kinda deep and profound.
"YOU CHRISTIANS AND PAGANS ARE IN FOR IT!"
Listening is very important in gaining awareness of God's message. It is common practice among faithful people to praise God and pray for ourselves and others. However, just being with God in the stillness of prayer, and listening, often will result in an idea, or a moment of clarity which is a gift from God that validates awareness of his presence and love for us.
Well said and this stillness and listening can be achieved if you believe in religion or not.
Many are convinced it's revelation while some chock it up to imagination.
Faith is the dividing feature between imagination and revelation for all who believe in a Universal Being.
You have been looking at the wrong Christians; the Christian is Jesus.
Well, WryLilt, whatever you might think. That was God intervening in your life.
How many people in history have lied and manipulated by claiming they were/are prophet of God? If anyone could truly hear voices from a supernatural being, why would the supernatural being expect anyone to believe them considering all the ones who lied in the past? If you hear voices, but see no figure or person, how do you know it's not evil spirits trying to make you think they are God? I think people making the claims without evidence to hear from God are simply manipulating to bring people to their beliefs and religion.
One good sign would be if they told you to - "KILL EM ALL" but I see your point; however if the voice told you to "LOVE PUPPIES" probably not evil.
I know I've oversimplified...you get the point.
Teri
Thanks.
lol @ love puppies.
I think it's interesting that we usually can't trust a person we can see, but many trust so easily in voices they hear or pretend to hear. What if the voices first started out good, then turned evil from love puppies to kill puppies? The puppies could be used for manipulation letting the puppy killer in. The only way I would trust some voices of someone I couldn't see is if the future was predicted and if magical acts were performed. Still then, besides me, who would believe me?
Here's where that little voice called consciences would come into play. So we have to listen to that voice and trust it as well.
If the voice has gone from saying love puppies to kill puppies. Mr. Conscience comes in and says wait a sec...kill puppies that's demons.
There are many who'd believe you Truth...if they'd believe Charles Manson and Jim Jones...why not you?
Thanks. If someone were to completely submit to the voices when it challenged their consciences to believe, why wouldn't they listen to the voices that tell them to do bad? In the movie "Frailty", killing was taught, but it was demons. How does the person know that the bad voices aren't for a good cause? This is starting to make my head hurt. lol
I think CM and JJ are excellent examples of why not to believe people that claim to hear voices. I think they also show by their followers that once a person submits their minds, their consciences sometimes become the leaders to manipulate.
The fact that you know to distinguish between a bad voice and a good voice answers that question. There are many who say "the voices told me to do it" as a defense for lapse in Judgement.
If someone says the voice told me to tell YOU...to kill puppies, suspect foul spirits. If we become afraid of our own inner voices be they God or conscience...we go through life looking for another voice to believe. Therein lies the power of the cult.
Thanks. Because you or I know, does that mean everyone knows how to distinguish between the two? Conscience isn't the same for everyone, some must turn their conscience off to survive their environment. I wouldn't suspect any kinds of spirits, but I hope you wouldn't tell me to kill any puppies. I agree on the cult, it's power is having people believe others are favored prophets of God as religion teaches. If God spoke to everyone, why does religion do it through prophets? Prophets wouldn't be needed.
I think the conscience is never off...ignored perhaps.
I have to admit you have me there on the last point; however perhaps the question should be (In the modern world of special effects and technology,) does God use prophets anymore because of upgrades...Now here me out - would modern-day man listen to someone wearing sack-cloth and eating locusts.
Maybe God is upgrading to a better method we've yet to see, or perhaps it's right there in front of us and we just call it Science.
Thanks. I sorta agree on conscience, but if it can be reprogrammed, isn't it off of the previous program?
You make a good point with science. But science like you, me, and everyone else still falls short of proving for or against a specific God. It seems if a God wanted to be recognized as the same for everyone, they wouldn't make it a puzzle to find them. Since a God hasn't revealed themselves to everyone already, why would they in the future?
My sheep shall know my voice. Kill puppies? Anyone knows that this wasn't the voice of God.
Thanks. Even sheep look around first when they hear a voice to find it's source. This is instinct. Isn't it ironic that many religionists refer to themselves as sheep/animals, yet disagree with evolution? It doesn't sound very empowering to me for people to refer to themselves as sheep, much like you don't think it's empowing to think of humans as apes.
I'm not trying to manipulate any one. I answered a question. I did hear a voice tell me that I wouldn't have my husband long after he is saved.
Just like the voice told me, it happened. I am no prophet, just a person who loves God.. If you don't want to believe, that's your choice. I am no liar.
Thanks. Sorry to hear about your husband passing.
I didn't call you a liar, but I think people can create illusions when they want to believe something strongly enough. The bible says a prophet is a messenger of God. If someone claims God has spoken to them, then relays the message to others, wouldn't this make them the messenger?
Well that was a message I didn't want to hear. I didn't want to lose my husband, but I did want him to be saved. The message was for me. I didn't share it with any one for a long time. People do have spiritual experiences. I wrote a hub about one of mine. I don't know you, don't know if you believe in God, but, with God as my witness everything I said is true. If I took it personal, it is because my relationship with God is personal.
Sorry I took your statement wrong.
Thanks. Again, sorry for your loss. It doesn't matter what I believe in the big picture, only what you believe. I would like to point out that many people have been in times of need, then afterwards being able to say they asked for a Gods help, but didn't see or hear a thing. Was they maybe asking the wrong God? I'm not saying spirits don't exist, but I don't believe in a specific detailed God or God's that I can't honestly prove to myself or others.
Thank you, my husband is in a better place. After he was saved I started praying very hard for him to be healed. Yes, again I heard a voice say "He'll be healed in Heaven." I argued with this voice, but, I lost the arguement. So, prayers aren't always answered the way, or the time, we want them to. I think most of us pray to the same God, he has many names. I really can't say, don't know, why I have had some of the dreams that I have had, or heard the voices I have heard. I just know it is real, I have experienced it. I understand some one not believing in things they haven't experienced. But I can't deny the things that I have.
How can you or anyone else NOT believe there is a God? I hope the answer is not science.
Believers know the voice of God. My sheep shall know my voice. "It is impossible to please God without faith."
This is a true statement, and if one were to think, he/she would see the truth in this statement.
I would explain, but, for us believers, we know, but for the others, maybe their common sense will kick in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgialZi9l2A
How Great Thou Art
The Messenger is the person who has been explicitly selected to continuously receive the messages and deliver to the other people. Just one or some sentences don't qualify one to become a Messenger Prophet; it is done just to taste others that the Creator-God Allah YHWH has not ceased speaking. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah in second Coming and Imam Mahdi has written on this subject in detail; one could Google for it, if one is interested.
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
I am no christian, but i dont think you are lying. Dont listen to those who try and tell you what you really believe is untrue. You know whats true right?
Thank you. Yes, I know what is true. Honesty is very important to me. If it wasn't true, I wouldn't have said it.
Had you stopped praying, would your husband still be alive today?
What...Beelzedad she didn't say praying caused her husbands death. If she had stopped praying her husband might not have been saved before his death. Right
Doesn't sound like a benevolent being though have to admit.
Ummmm ha, wow. Thats not what Beelzedad said. hes saying that when she prayed, a voice told her that her husband would be gone not long after he was saved. Weather she heard the voice or not, it was going to happen.
Your saying that Beelzedad is asking if she had stopped praying her husband would have died anyway weather she was warned that he wasn't saved so he was saved, but would have died anyway even if she hadn't heard the voice at all. Thanks for clarifiying.
Dont get sarcastic with me, just continue twisteng others words for the benefit of your own inane "points"
I'll get sarcastic with you...speaking of inane points do you have one or feel you should go from thread to thread explaining everyone elses?
Wow, just came back to check on this and discovered what a jackass you are. I was no more explaining someone elses thread to you, than i was pointing out how you were twisting someone elses word around. Whats a matter puss...you dont like to be called out on your b.s.?
Im not going to apologise for pointing out what you were trying to do, which is put words in someone elses mouth. Turning something someone else said into something totally different to make them look bad, thereby thinking your making youself look better. Even if they dont notice right away, other people do.
Well thanks for clearing all that up for me "MOM"!
I can't help what you think...don't be trying to tell me what I think, or what you think everyone else thinks - why don't you keep your thinks to yourself...and a suggestion: You should reconsider tank-tops -a woman your age... simply not flattering. Put some cloths on...your sagging!
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She also didn't mention whether or not she knew her husband was going to die before she heard the voices. Had she known, then I really don't understand her point. And, by the sounds of it, it doesn't seem like she did know, hence my question.
No I get it...the question I have is why the voice, would warn her that her husband would die if he was saved. Instead of telling her..."better get your husband saved, just in case."
As I said, doesn't sound benevolent...because it seems to leave the possibility open that if he wasn't saved he would live.
No, I didn't know. At that time he was in good health.
The Ellen show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqRlO3w … re=related
I prayed for his salvation a few years before he was saved He had a brain anurism. He survived that for a year but it left him with short term memory loss. Couldn't remember something for more than 15 minutes. I thought we would grow old together. Play with our grand children together. I just thank God that he was saved before he past. I still miss him some times, but I know he is in a better place.
I would disagree that your husband is in a better place, because the best place for him is with you.
Thank you. His brain anurism left him with short term memory loss and daily migraine headaches. He was in pain just about every day. He isn't suffering any more.
stilljustwonderin you are correct, he is in a better place and it takes courage to understand this.
Beelzedad you have no idea what the better place is about so give it a rest.
I don't know would be a truthful answer form you.
I do know god.,sorry to disappoint you.All poets know god, they work for him.
You are still using Einstein picture to quote your atheist view, shows your character.Even though I posted his quote stating how much he dislikes this you still use his picture.
“To show them special mercy, I, dwelling in their hearts, destroy with the shining lamp of knowledge the darkness born of ignorance” (Bhagavad-gita 10.11).
Meditate.
The authority has spoken! All hail the authority! LOL!
So sorry your understanding of Einstein is lacking and you have to make up stuff.
"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
Albert Einstein
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
Albert Einstein
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
I have posted this quote a few times before yet you don't have the decency to remove Albert Einsteins picture, give the man a break.
And, you wouldn't have a clue what HE meant by that statement or the statements you quoted. That's the real shame.
Einstein didn't believe in god in any way, shape or form. He understood his own consciousness to be his view.
Not to mention, at the time he lived, he refused to deny the existence of a god, but did know and understand that there was no god within the constructs of his own mind.
But, nice try.
Agreed. I have had this discussion before about Einstein's beliefs.
Yes, I know, you continue to dishonestly misrepresent him with your own belief system. And, you talk about decency?
Cant you understand his quotes casgil? they are written in simple English.
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
Cant you read? Please read before replying blindly.
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
Albert Einstein
Boy you don't get it do you. I can read, it is YOU who does not understand Einstein. DUH!
Yes, you've posted that before, whereupon I posted the entire quote, which you conveniently left out, in which he explains he is angry with people like YOU for quoting him to support your own views.
"Two things are infinite human stupidity and this universe and I am not sure about the universe" Albert Einstein
Why is with her a better place? You don't think that any other place could possibly be better?
Beelzedad,
I see your post was DELETED.
Are you saying mean, Un Christly things?
Listen to a nice song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqRlO3w … re=related
Nope, never heard it, but I have witnessed the results of prayer.
Personally, I don't believe God can "talk" to us. I believe if he does want to talk to us, it might be through angels or people. If I actually heard the voice of God, I reckon it'd make me the happiest I've ever been in my life.
You must believe in God first. My sheep shall know my voice. God can talk to even a rock!
God speaks in many ways. He has spoken to me through scripture which is the best way to discern His voice. God does not speak contrary to His word. He has told me things going on in people's lives, through the Word or Knowledge and spoken through me in a Word of Prophecy. God is always speaking to us in so many different ways.
God has spoken to me several times in such a profound manner that it pierced me to the core, in other instances it has been such as the scripture would say; "a still, small, voice." The profound communications which we experience can be life changing, but it is the smaller every day promptings that shape our faith and enable us to discern the right from the wrong through much experience, trial, and error. It's all about growth, and the building of integrity. The hard part is to do what you are supposed to do when asked to do it.
onusonus, that's what I heard, a still, solf and so gentle voice. It was like a very calm breeze, and so peaceful. A solf whisper.
Many folks think I'm nuts by what I have said. You know as well as I know it is that experience that you just can't make up just to tell a story.
Elijah heard the still small whisper of the Lord.
But sometimes Satan deceives unbelievers into thinking that they have heard the voice of God. Oh, Satan too can play tricks.
If one is truly born again, He will soon learn to hear God speaking (not in an audible whisper, but in a kind of registration on the heart) when he reads God's word, or when he sits in church and hears a man of God speaking.
Believe me it was not satin. I have been a true believer thoughout my life.
Gods don't give answers, men do...... and claim it is from gods.
Being a twin I am sure you possess telepathy and intuition earnesthub
Interesting observation Mohit. My psychological make up is known to me. I am an intuitive thinking type.
Intuition is the source or god guiding you.
Your intuition is beyond the grasp of science or and reason..
You connect with me out of your intuition.
Telepathy is a higher communication method, its how twins connect, people who are close to each other and how entities or god speaks to us.
This fall short. God does give answers to anyone who believes and listens to every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. God has the answers for you joy. God can speak to anyone in many, many ways even audiblly. God can speak to your entire pee size brain at once.
I want to know what the voice of god sounds ,maybe it's sound great.
Hi friends
The Creator- God Allah YHWH speaks in the following modes:
[42:52] And it is not for a man that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a veil or by sending a messenger to reveal by His command what He pleases. Surely, He is High, Wise.
[42:53] And thus have We revealed to thee the Word by Our command. Thou didst not know what the Book was, nor what the faith. But We have made it (the revelation) a light, whereby We guide such of Our servants as We please. And truly, thou guidest mankind to the right path,
[42:54] The path of Allah, to Whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. Behold! to Allah do all things return.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=51
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
One thing I noticed is that I haven't seen anyone claim they heard God, then looked around the room. This is odd to me. When we hear a voice "not self made", our first instinct is to look around the room to see where the voice came from. The people claiming to hear God without looking around, already claiming to know where the voice came from sounds lame and unbelievable to me. This leads me to believe the voices are made by their head. Also, how do you know the voice is God unless they specifically say, "I am God"? Faith?
Hi friend TruthDebater
You have raised a valid point; when the Cretor-God Allah YHWH spoke with Moses; God introduced to him:
[20:9] Allah — there is no God but He. His are the most beautiful names.
[20:10] And has the story of Moses come to thee?
[20:11] When he saw a fire, he said to his family, ‘Tarry ye, I perceive a fire; perhaps I may bring you a brand therefrom or find guidance at the fire.’
[20:12] And when he came to it, he was called by a voice, ‘O Moses,
[20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa.
[20:14] ‘And I have chosen thee; so hearken to what is revealed.
[20:15] ‘Verily, I am Allah; there is no God beside Me. So serve Me, and observe Prayer for My remembrance.
[20:16] ‘Surely, the Hour is coming; I am going to manifest it, that every soul may be recompensed for its endeavour.
[20:17] ‘So let not him who believes not therein and follows his own evil inclinations, turn thee away therefrom, lest thou perish.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=11
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Thanks. I don't think claims of hearing God from a burning bush is a believable example either. Between the bush and hearing voices without looking to see where they came from, I don't know which is more unbelievable. At least they did use a source for the voice as others claim the source couldn't be seen, only heard. Still, I think the God bush has little to no credibility.
Hi friend TruthDebater
Please read the link in full. When Moses heard such and intelligent talk and he knew no human around; he got satisfied who talked to him.
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Thanks.
20:19] قَالَ هِىَ عَصَاىَۚ اَتَوَكَّؤُا عَلَيْهَا وَاَهُشُّ بِهَا عَلَىٰ غَـنَمِىْ وَلِىَ فِيْهَا مَاٰرِبُ اُخْرٰى
[20:19] قَالَ هِىَ عَصَاىَ أَتَوَڪَّؤُاْ عَلَيۡہَا وَأَهُشُّ بِہَا عَلَىٰ غَنَمِى وَلِىَ فِيہَا مَـَٔارِبُ أُخۡرَىٰ
[20:19] He replied, ‘This is my rod, I lean on it, and beat down therewith leaves for my sheep, and I have also other uses for it.’
[20:19] اس نے کہا یہ میرا عصا ہے، میں اس پر سہارا لیتا ہوں اور اس کے ذریعے اپنی بھیڑ بکریوں پر پتے جھاڑتا ہوں اور اس میں میرے لئے اور بھی بہت سے فوائد ہیں۔
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[20:20] قَالَ اَلْقِهَا يٰمُوْسٰى
[20:20] قَالَ أَلۡقِهَا يَـٰمُوسَىٰ
[20:20] He said, ‘Cast it down, O Moses.’
[20:20] اس نے کہا اسے پھینک دے اے موسیٰ!
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[20:21] فَاَلْقٰٮهَا فَاِذَا هِىَ حَيَّةٌ تَسْعٰى
[20:21] فَأَلۡقَٮٰهَا فَإِذَا هِىَ حَيَّةٌ۬ تَسۡعَىٰ
[20:21] So he cast it down, and behold! it was a serpent running.
[20:21] پس اُس نے اسے پھینک دیا تو اچانک گویا وہ ایک حرکت کرتا ہوا سانپ سا بن گیا۔
No offense, but I don't think turning a rod into a running serpent is very believable either. That is something I would have to see in person to believe. Sounds more like a fairy tail to capture a persons emotions and imagination.
Hi friend
God does not make the rod physically a serpent but it look like it; Moses was thus informed that when the magicians would trick the strings look likt snakes; then you use the rod and their magic would be exposed.
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Hey TruthDebater,
I think what many people do is take it upon faith, because they have nothing else and a limited consciousness.
If half the people did a little research on the subject of human consciousness, and when specifically it came about, then they would realize the truth of the matter.
However, people are lazy.
Hello, thanks. I think the research is the complicated part, even when effort is put in to understand consciousness. Because there are limited objective truths in defining consciousness, philosophy and religion often take advantage in trying to define it's origin.
1 Corinthians 1 verse 21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
I am so thankful I'm not wise! :-)
God can make a rock talk to you. Why fore you a localize pin size self have placed limits on Infinite God?
John 10-27
My sheep hear my voice , and I know them , and they follow me.
Yeah, it is called faith.
We don't "see" God. But we see the effects he has and we "feel" him. I don't see the wind, but I know it is there because I can see the effects of it, and I can feel it.
Thanks. If the sheep just heard a voice without visual of a sheppard or direction to go, how would they follow anything? The sheep have to see what is speaking to them first.
I agree you can feel emotional and high with a sense of God or a spiritual experience, but this doesn't give visual evidence that what you believe is correct. This only gives evidence that your belief can determine your emotions, it doesn't give you the original source of emotions.
We just know. It is called faith. Like I said, I can't see the wind either but when I feel it blowing on my face, I know it is there.
The "voice" if it is telling ya something wrong, ya know it isn't of God. It is just something you would have to experience yourself to understand.
Emotions. My Hub. When I was laying on my bed crying uncontrollably and suddenly felt the most intense, joyful love, that didn't come from me. I was in deep despair.
Again, it is something you have to experience yourself to understand. I understand that. Please understand, it is something we have experienced, so it is real to us.
I wrestled in high school. People in the bleachers were always noisy talking to each other and yelling and all kind of carrying on.. But I could always hear my coaches voice above the uproar.
But I couldn't hear the voice of the coach of my opponent.
Thanks. The difference is you could see/prove the source of the voice, "the coach".
All it really says is that if ya listen for a particular voice in a crowd you can hear it.
If that voice means nothing to ya ??? ya caint ... it is lost in the crowd.
Thanks. You still know there is a source to the voice, it doesn't come from subjective faith, there is an objective person that is yelling. I'm sure there have been many wrestlers whose coaches voices meant a lot to them, were heard, and still lost the match.
Winning or loosing has nothing to do with the VOICE.
If ya have no interest in hearing the unknown you will never hear it.. Unless ... He wants ya to.
Like my grandPa always said. Ya Gotta Want It First or ya aint ever goina get it. Unless it is something that ya don't want like a flat tire or the clapse.
Thanks. You could continue on and on with infinite points that still do not give observational proof to something you can't see. Did the voice tell you it was a he or that he only talks to chosen ones? Why would people want to hear voices they can't see or prove as true? Isn't this like wanting to be insane?
There is nothing insane about it. Maybe one day you will feel God, hear him. Then you will understand and people will think your insane. :-)
Thanks. If there is something I can't prove to others rather than hearsay, I will probably keep it to myself. No matter what I said how many times I said it, no one would believe it if there was no observational evidence.
If you seen a ghost, your one encounter wouldn't be observational evidence that others would believe, even if you heard and saw. You could shoot a video and people would still suspect it's fake. It doesn't become a universal truth until it's made where everyone can see it. Math is a universal unbiased truth. No matter where you are from or what language you speak, 1 + 1 = 2. An unidentified voice from an unknown source does not equal God, especially when it can't be explained as universal. Rather than, "maybe one day when you believe my belief, you will hear".
Hi friend TruthDebater
Except our Christian friends who say 1+1+1=1
Trinity is such a Mathematics!
Thanks
I am not here to try to convince any one of anything. I can't lead some one to God. Jesus does that. I answered a question. I spoke the truth. There isn't anything I can do about if some one believes me or not. Until I experienced it myself, I didn't believe it. People like me, scared me. So I know a lot of people won't believe it, that doesn't make it false. I live by faith. I have had experiences that confirmed my faith. Nothing will change my mind or my heart. I stand by what I said. If you ever experience the things I have, then you will understand.
This is a religious forum. Your a learned man, you know we walk by faith with no visual proof. Our faith is spiritual. So, why are you here if you don't want to hear?
Thanks. I didn't say anything was impossible, just improbable. I am just saying you don't have universal proof that skeptics will believe.
The universal proof convinces the skeptics, not just the believers. Proof takes reasonable explanations or observations. No one on the thread has given reasonable proof that can be explained. It is a little difficult to explain something you can't see, no? So we use faith to believe things we can't see, faith doesn't make us right. Besides, not everything a person has faith in is correct, it is the hope they are correct.
Are you saying that if the experiences that I have had, happened to you. that you wouldn't tell any one? When having the experience, you knew for a fact it happened? Believe me, when the Holy Ghost comes upon a person, ya want to shout it to the world. You feel so much intense, incredible love, you just can't keep it to your self. For you feel that love for every human being you see. Proof? You have it in your spirit..
Matthew 10-33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in Heaven.
He didn't have to tell us not to deny him, because we can't. We know it is real. I'm not trying to convince you or any one else. I just can't lie because others won't believe.
Thanks.
That is an impossible question to answer because I am not you and haven't had the same experiences. It depends on all of the variables of whether I could explain the experiences and their cause. There is a difference between believing something happening and explaining how or why it happened. When there is explanation with evidence, then even the skeptic will believe it. Spirit is not proof, there is no observational or testable evidence in defining spirits, only religion and philosophical attempts. In the emotional rewards you mention, why do you think it's different for a person that meditates and finds the same rewards?
I think the quote only goes to relate with a God. The person that is seen the closest to a God gains the most believers and power. I never called you a liar, I am just saying it's unlikely proving something without being able to see it.
I don't want to prove anything to anyone. It is nice though when I can talk with someone else that has had an experience that we can not prove.
Everything about science was once unproven at one time, and was considered to be just a crazy idea.
Oh come on Jermi. You know the earth is flat!
Love ya brother
Love back at cha. One day science says eggs are bad for ya and next year they are good again. Science is subject to change.
The sound of "You Were Right" is worth waiting for.
They just don't understand because they haven't had the experiences that we have. They think we are foolish.
1 Corinthians 1 verse 20
Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
Some day they will see.
And someday we will understand.
A hungry man doesn't need to understand everything about the food that nourishes him.
Thanks, I disagree. Haven't you ever watched one of the survivalist shows? There are specific things you can and can't eat. Some keep you alive, some poison or kill you. A person has to be skeptical of what to eat, not whatever looks the best.
Nonsense! I and millions of other people have heard God speak to them. This is understood among born again Christians who have received the Holy Spirit. I am sure that you need to start with your salvation in order to really know God.
Thanks. I predicted this earlier in the thread. "Believe my belief, then God will speak to you". It is quite a luring pick up line with no evidence to show. It is also a good recruiting tool for religions.
when God speaks to someone they know who is speaking, so there is no need to look around,they know his voice
http://www.atheistmind.com/
I will understand if this is not a valid link to you Mohit, and will clearly state it's possible bias as an atheist based site, but the data if pretty right I reckon.
Hi earnesthub have just gone through it, it states Einstein was not a Christian who believes in a personal god ,but he does believe in God.
Or a superior intelligence responsible for creating this universe and its laws.
“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”
I agree with you Mohit
Nope, Here's what he says about you:
"“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. "
Here is the first quote in it's entirety off the page written by Albert Einstein as Beezledad has recalled correctly.
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
Hmm
I thought all the quotes on that link are his
That last quote would suggest he doesnt believe in a personal god but also doesnt support those ideas that there is no god.
It was a lie sort of says it all, but if you read all of what he said just on that link, it would be very hard to pretend that he is a religionist.
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Hi friends
It is perfectly normal if God talks to somebody.
Thanks
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