Creationists - why did God put toxic substances in Earth?

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   Baileybearposted 12 years ago

   eg heavy metals like mercury, and radioactive substances like uranium? 
   
   And how & why did oil get deposited? What about fossils?
   
   Hoping for answers with more substance than "God put it there" or "so people could invent cars one day" and other such fluff

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      aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Because!

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         Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         that's fluff

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      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Really?  Try an encyclopedia or maybe go to class?  I think that was grammer school.  Fossils?  Oil?  Really?

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      gooberpyleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      well sir bellybeer i ain't quite got it figured outn but suposen uaz drankin' beer anda eatin' some o them boildy eags,and some them little pickeldy pig feet and yo o'l fat unk jumbo lifted hisen left leg and spewed some o the fouldest ol greenyest vapor ever sucked air outa awhole room afore jesus it would make u wondr pewyeee your buddy goob

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      Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "And how & why did oil get deposited? What about fossils?"
      
      
      Uhhhhh, what?

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      Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Or better yet, why didn't he just make everything out of foam rubber? That way no one can get hurt no matter what they do!

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   pisean282311posted 12 years ago

   Who said god put that?...

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      Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      creationists believe that God created the earth - so want to know how they explain this

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         pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         scriptures say nothing about toxic..so they dont exist...

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            aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Your not serious? Making a statement like that.
            It says nothing about a lot of things, so none of them exist either?
            Really!!!

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               pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               

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                  aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yea, it says noting about you either. You don't exist.
                  

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                     pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     quiet right

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         Barbara Kayposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The footprints of man have been found along with a dinosaur fossil somewhere in Texas. Just because there are fossils, dinosaur bones, oil under the earth etc doesn't mean that man wasn't created.

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   skyfireposted 12 years ago

   SIN filtration is the reason god put it there.
   
   You need to understand that God is "love peace free" and so there is no toxic in this world for god. It's just that his son got screwed by mere mortals doesn't mean god has allergy with toxic on earth.

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   aka-djposted 12 years ago

   Trouble is you asked about four questions in one.
   If you are just focusing on toxic and radioactive "stuff" specifically, then say so!
   
   Suppose, just suppose, that there is a purpose for everything in nature, even if we don't understand it (or like it for that matter). What then? Is it a bad thing?
   
   Besides, how much toxic and radioactive material is/was found out in the open to harm unwary passers by?
   
   If my knowledge is any good, it was we, humans who took it out of the ground. Not to mention abuse it, make bombs etc with it.
   
   Then, we don't know what do do with the waste, or byproducts. Oh, and lets not forget "evil" men deliberately abusing it.
   
   Also, just suppose, that the earth, pre-flood was a much safer place than it is now. Even if you don't believe in the Flood (of Noah's type), you have to admit that planet Earth has undergone some awesome catastrophes. These could easily explain the unearthing of such materials.
   
   How's that? Is that "un-fluff" enough for you?

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      Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      these things are really all the same thing - I'm asking about the Earth's geology - naturally occuring substances in the Earth's crusts, many of which happen to be toxic to humans (eg heavy metals, radioactive substances).
      The oil and fossils were deposited with naturally occuring processes of erosion, sedimentation & entrapment over millions of years.
      
      What I'm asking is how do creationists explain geological processes?  Do you accept the science of geological processes that is explained by scientists?    And if the crust has things in it toxic to humans, then is that bad, and does that mean God made something bad?  If, of course, if God had any part in it at all

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you; man has himself created the trouble by misusing the things; now man blames the Creator-God Allah YHWH; it is a negative thinking.

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         Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         mis-using the thing?  Some of these toxic things have been useful eg ever used tranport requiring fuel?  You use a computer and presumably   phone - they contain toxic heavy metals. 
         
         I'm trying to see if creationists have a reasonable explanation as to how stuff got here (science has valid explanations). 
         
         Why does it take a supernatural being to have created it if "man created trouble misusing things"  - there was no user guide provided saying not to dig things out of the ground and use them.
         
         what makes humans think the earth with resources like oil were made for them?

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      gooberpyleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      hey disjockystrap,or aol er' what'er yer name iz i outa slap a tater out yer az ,er mabe slap a prune over yer eyeball,you dadblamed knothead talkin' to a poor ol enecent little ol girl likat sheaz onlest funnin' ya anaway ya don't havta get all fussed up about it,now have a nice day.ol goob

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   kessposted 12 years ago

   all things are meant to be in this earth for a good purpose for you.
   the good and bad, light and dark, positive and negative, etc. etc.
   
   this is so that you can establish yourself upon TRUTH in order to move unto LIFE.
   
   otherwise you would be lost wandering around in death.

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      Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      why should  things that are toxic to humans be considered evil?  how does one determine which is an evil substance?  why is dark evil?  it's all interpretation

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   thooghunposted 12 years ago

   I'm not a creationist however some of these questions are based on the presumption that danger to humans is a bad thing:
   
   
   
   Death, mortality and human fragility are the centerpiece of most faiths, so the inclusion of harmful substances are more than justified.
   
   With reference to the scientific questions you pose: I've always had fun discussing fossils with my religious friends. The word "transitional fossil" crops up a lot more than it should in my mind. After-all, isn't everyfossil transitional? Evolution is an ongoing process. Beyond semantics, transitional, multi-stage fossils exist and are exhibited in many museums on earth.

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   xobliamposted 12 years ago

   really....
   
   You really have to read more conspiracy stuff and less religion.
   
   It's all answered by people like Edgar Cayce when he states that humans are nothing more than spirits who have forgotten about their metaphysical roots. Light beings who millions of years ago could morph themselves into basically any type of creature. That's where Homer (not Simpson) gets all of his monstrous winged creatures and giant stories. Of course Plato told your great great ancestors that Homeric muses were all just phantasmagoria and now you believe reality for what it is.
   
   But the light being is in you and some day you may learn to morph again and not be so concerned with how the earth, mother of the tangible human, spits out her fire, water, wind, air dragon children who are fossilized in the oils of her womb.
   
   Really you have to start reading less into what Plato taught your ancestors and more into the poetic poison that is the real creationist story.
   
   In other words, the earth needs the oil and fossil fuels alot more than we humans do.

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   libby101aposted 12 years ago

   God created all things for a reason and purpose! It's what we do with these things that make them good or evil!!!
   
   For instance... Mercury when used correctly is helpful to humans! We use mercury in thermometers barometers, etc... Mercury is also used to restore teeth by dentists!!! And I remember mercury was used quite a bit a few hundred years ago to extract silver from the earth! Mercury has many uses! So Mercury has it's purpose!
   
   
   
   Believe it or not but the medical industry uses radioactive substances quite a bit. Science also uses radioactive substances quite a bit!!! And we have nuclear power plants!!!
   
   And think about this: Many people have been cured from cancer by using a radioactive substances!
   
   We use ionizing radiation to preserve food (beta and gamma rays).
   Low doses of radiation inhibits growth, and potatos are a good example of produce which has been irradiated. Higher doses of radiation can sterilize food too!
   
   I could go on and on about the "good" uses for any of the things you mentioned! It is what we decide to use them for that invents a problem!
   
   God created everything for us to use with good intent... we are the ones who screw everything up!!

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      Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      yes, humans work out through trial and error what is useful (many died in the process in first working with these substances).  Mercury has gone out of fashion for thermometers & fillings because of toxicity (kids playing with the cool looking liquid metal when thermometer breaks etc). 
      
      So agree that these things are neutral, not "good" or "evil" and people make their own choices, and the geological and biological processes happen on their own, why insist that a supernatural being put it all there in the first place?

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         libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         God created the Earth! Thing naturally progress over time! You can believe your way if you want... and I can believe my way!

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            Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            so, libby, both you and I both believe that science explains very well the "what" and "how" stuff works eg geology, biology, chemistry etc - you accept it all?
            
            The difference with us is you believe a supernatural being put it there and made it happen?  Because science doesn't offer a "why?" and religion attempts to?

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               libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Yes I believe science explains quite a bit! However, I believe God began it all!
               
               As I've stated many times I believe a person can believe in science and God! One doesn't have to believe in one and not the other!

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         Woman Of Courageposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis: Ch.1.

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            Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Notice Bailybear, that it always eventually comes down to this one biblical scripture and you will not receive any other answers that display an iota of reason or logic to such a question.

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               Woman Of Courageposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Beelzedad, She has been given logical answers in the above posts. It's a matter of recieving and believing the answers, and that's by choice.

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   aefranciscoposted 12 years ago

   i guess ... everything God Created in existence has a purpose - it is our choice if it is for destruction or not.

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    wilbury4posted 12 years ago

    Every substance has a use, some good, some bad, but as for God putting them here I have doubt. The Earth is a product from an explosion millions of years ago, everything that it is made of, everything in it and everything on it is from a scientific miracle not a Godly one.
    Just my opinion...

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       paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hi friend wilbury4
       
       I don't agree with you.
       
       Every miracle of science is because the Creator-God Allah YHWH makes it possible. The miracle of creation of Universe and life on Earth happened when the science was not yet born; the science is only discovering what happened before its birth; they are not creating anything; and it does not come in the purview of science as to what purpose it did take place. Science only is concerned with what is actually happening and what our senses could perceive; not the purpose of it.
       
       Falsification/correction of the anomaly makes science a possibility.
       Science is a child of mathematics; and mathematics is a child of philosophy; which are faculties of Arts of life; thus its scope is limited and is only subsidiary; it is changing and will remain ever-changing.
       
       Science is Work of the Creator- God Allah YHWH and Religion is Word of Him; both are from the same source and are complementary and not exclusive of one another; they work hand in hand;
       
       Thanks
       
       I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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