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The real name of Jesus. Yahshua.

  1. Yuki92 profile image80
    Yuki92posted 6 years ago

    So lately I've been doing some digging on the real name of Jesus (long story on how I stumbled on this), and have found very conclusive evidence that his name was indeed Yahshua.

    His birth name at least. Jesus is merely the transLITERATED name and not the translated name. Translation carry the meaning over from language to language while transliterate compensate by going by the closest sounding vowels/consonants.

    It's already obvious Jesus cant be his birth name because there is no letter J in the Jewish alphabet.

    So technically speaking, the name Jesus has no real meaning, Yahshua does.

    Yah = God, Shua = Saves/Salvation.

    Every christian (and I am christian but I'm having doubts in the doctrine as long as this little bit isn't answered) I've asked this to, which isn't a whole lot lol, has just told me that it doesn't matter what we call him by, because he knows...

    Any other thoughts?

    1. aka-dj profile image77
      aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You are correct.
      So, now that you figured this out, HOW does that affect your faith/christianity?

      Also, Christ is not His "sirname"! What do you do about that.
      This too is translated from Greek. It means exactly the same thing as Messiah. Anointed.

      So, put it all together, you get Yeshuah/Yehoshua Messiah, and as you pointed out, already, God's Anointed Saviour/Deliverer.

      It describes Him perfectly!

      Now, do you believe, or still have doubts?

      1. Yuki92 profile image80
        Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I still have doubts for sure. I mean in church we're singing songs about Jesus and I'm just having a hard time following a long.

      2. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        His name would have been something like this : Yeshuah Bar Joseph, or Yeshuah Ben Joseph.

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      Talking Black Hubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for a needed topic. It's important to know as much as we can about Yeshua, especially those of us who claim to be His followers. Many see no need to go any deeper than the dimly lit revelations of traditions handed down over 400 years ago by those who only speak English.

      However, adhering only to English is asking the Blind to lead the Blind! Look around and you see over 5,000 different "Christian" beliefs/denominations. A lot of confusion and contradicts exists because very few study the original languages that penned Holy Scripture.  Well---look at the results---Christians are falling all over themselves as they fall into the "ditches" of confusion, contradiction, and fragmentation!

      Let's be honest. None of want a car mechanic who only knows a little about cars! Why? Because we want an informed mechanic working on our cars!

      Jesus spoke Aramaic, not English, Greek, or Hebrew. His Aramaic name is Yeshua. In Hebrew it's Yehoshua.

      It is vital to know the true essence and uniqueness of Yeshua. If we claim to believe in Jesus and also claim to believe in other ways to God, then we truly don't believe in the essence and uniqueness of Jesus! In other words, we don't truly believe in or on His Name. The "Name" of Jesus/Yeshua is His essence and uniqueness. When the Anti-Christ arrives, he'll easily deceive those of us who only have "shallow" awareness of the essence/uniqueness of the real Yeshua!

      It is nonetheless true that we don't have to know all the various titles and deeper knowledge/facts concerning His name. We just need to be aware of and believe in His true essence and uniqueness if we profess to be following Him!

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        There is a disconnect between the followed and the followers. Much of what happened in Judea is a mystery to them. Even in what they consider to be "full acceptance" they are unschooled in the hidden ministry, which is fully explained in the Gospels. There is even more, and these have been passed over, as though they have no bearing. The fact that John the Baptist was Jesus' cousin, and James, his brother, headed the center of the faith in Jerusalem. Other brothers were also disciples, and Arimathea. the Joseph of the tomb may also have been a close relative of the crucified messiah.

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        Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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        First of all he was born Immanuel. But he went to the people in the name of the Father, Yah. Yehshua is a mistransliteration in any language. Yehshua does not contain the name of God, Yah.

        Because Yahshua's parents were from Nazareth we know he spoke Aramaic, but he taught from the Hebrew scriptures, so he also spoke Hebrew.

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        Educated Rosieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If we are to call on the Name of and ask in the Name of humanity's  Saviour as the Name above all Names,then surely the Name and how it is pronounced is of the utmost importance to people who believe in Salvaion through Yashuah Messiah.
        YHWH Promised He would leave no stone unturned in mankind's search for  Truth,so when Truth is revealed we should give thanksgiving for the revelation and listen and adhere to it's message,if one desires to progress in Truth and Light \O/

    3. Beelzedad profile image58
      Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "Conclusive evidence" for a mythical being. LOL! smile

      1. Yuki92 profile image80
        Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        no one feed this troll

        1. SpiritMom profile image60
          SpiritMomposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Oh sorry, why is he a troll?  Is he guarding a bridge to treasures? Will he hassle you until you get the right answer?

      2. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Notice you took your on-line name from biblical references. Your slip is showing.

        1. Beelzedad profile image58
          Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          How nice of you to notice. But, the term actually came about much earlier than your bible. Christians used the term to depict one of the seven princes of hell. I'm his dad. smile

      3. SpiritMom profile image60
        SpiritMomposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        who is a mythical being? Jesus?

        1. Beelzedad profile image58
          Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, of course. And, while the Romans, including Pilate, sent many people to be crucified, the entire story of Jesus of Nazareth, the resurrections, etc. was just a myth, like many of the mythical beings presented in scriptures. smile

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          paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Jesus is not a myth; but his dieing on the Cross; his resurrection and his ascension to skies is a myth carved by clever Paul and the sinful Church out of thi air is a myth for sure.

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      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It is the same person Jesus whom Quran mentions as Essa/Issa Masih-Ibne-Maryam in Arabic which is a sister language of Hebrew and Aramaic.

      In Kashmir-i language (language spoken in Kashmir, where Jesus spent most of his time after the event of Crucifixion) Jesus is mentioned as Yus Asif not much different from Jesus.

      1. SpiritMom profile image60
        SpiritMomposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        there are some accounts of ISSA  in India...but so what

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          paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this
      2. skipper112 profile image60
        skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        paar you are still insulting Jesus,
        FACT Jesus NEVER went to India.
        FACT. Jesus did die on the Cross.
        What 'SINFULL CHURCH'
        Name 'CLEVER PAUL?
        sugest you learn more Paar, READ all of Bible  not just bit's and piece's, as usual you are badly missinformed.

        Prove from Quran  ( your Holy Book)
        Prove from Bible ( my Holy Book)

        Prove that Jesus went to India, if you cannot then just SHUTUP with your lies!!!!

    5. tritrain profile image75
      tritrainposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Gesundheit!!!

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      Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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      You are correct. Yahshua is the name.
      And it does matter about the name. It says his name is above all others

      There is no need to translate a name, as you would words.

      Jesus has nothing to do with the name Yahshua.
      Jesus is Hey-Seus which means "The Zeus"

      1. Disappearinghead profile image85
        Disappearingheadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Zeus is Ζεύς in greek which doesn't look to much like Jesus Ιησούς

      2. Disappearinghead profile image85
        Disappearingheadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Jesus is Ιησούς in Greek but Zeus is Ζεύς. Don't look the same to me.

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          Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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          Whatever you say
          In Greek, it is pronounced Ii̱soús

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        Educated Rosieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree Deborah,as you rightfully said if the Messiah's  Name is the Name above all Names,then to call on someone else i.e Zeus for Salvation would be futile...  in that case we are truly being mislead if we use the  name Jesus.

  2. AdeleCosgroveBray profile image89
    AdeleCosgroveBrayposted 6 years ago

    Would it matter if his name turned out to have been Fred, Bert, George, or anything else?

    How does a person's "real" name change what they may, or may not, have achieved?

    1. kirstenblog profile image75
      kirstenblogposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I guess I like to be pedantic and know the finer details of things, even when its not of major importance. I very much enjoyed learning the true name was Yahshua just cause its fun to be erudite from time to time big_smile

    2. Jerami profile image73
      Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      But haw many little things can we ignore until it begins to matter?

    3. Yuki92 profile image80
      Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Acts 4:12

      Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.

      I think this verse sums up the importance of calling Yahshua by Yahshua and not some meaningless name.

      Names are important, I have mine and I like to be called by it.

    4. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What's in a name? compare Adolf Hitler/Adolf Shicklegruber

      1. Yuki92 profile image80
        Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Its important to note that adolf hitler was called by adolf hitler. "Schicklgruber" was the last name of his paternal grandmother. He never held that name.

        If you want to give a comparison, try to give a name that compares with the son of God. If you can find me a name that has a close enough significance then I'll take it into more consideration as to "what's in a name".

        True, Yahshua held many different surnames, but had only 1 name given to him at birth and only 1 name given to Mary by the angel Gabriel.

        1. Druid Dude profile image60
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hitler was his step father's name, and he was never adopted, which made it quite optional.

      2. AdeleCosgroveBray profile image89
        AdeleCosgroveBrayposted 6 years ago in reply to this



        Again, it's not the name itself but the deeds which make the man (or woman.)

        1. Yuki92 profile image80
          Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          True, I would agree with you on any other important historical figure.

          However, I believe the son of God, deserves just a BIT more respect than just 'another' name.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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      Because scripture says the name is sacred. A name above all other names. That's why it matters.

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      Educated Rosieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If one desires to live in Truth and eternal Light,then to receive Salvation from lies and darkness one has to call on the Name of the Redeemer Yahshuah/Yahuah HaMaschiac \o/

  3. Flightkeeper profile image71
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    Yuki, you must have been really bored.

    1. Yuki92 profile image80
      Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Actually no, I discovered this when I went to the Okanagan (BC) by myself (18 years old) and met an interesting man who had completely different ideas than Christianity and was protesting in the streets about chem trails, haarp etc.. Basically I did my own research from there.

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Oooh! Black ops! I LOVE black ops!

        1. Yuki92 profile image80
          Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          i dun get it.

  4. thooghun profile image84
    thooghunposted 6 years ago

    "have found very conclusive evidence that his name was indeed Yahshua"

    I'm curious as to what this evidence is. I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely curious.

    1. aka-dj profile image77
      aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hebrew names.

    2. Yuki92 profile image80
      Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Indeed, Yahshua is his hebrew name and there was no letter J when back in his time. J is the result of a greek translation of the name Ieosus. In fact, but i can't prove this to be completely true, the name Jesus and Ioesus spawned from Zeus. This would essentially make Jesus' name a pagan root name.

      Also, Acts 26:14

      "And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks" - king james bible.

      So obviously he couldn't have said Jesus in this case.

      Also, if you look, one of God's many names is Yahweh. Yahweh meaning God(yah) with us (weh).

      Yahshua: Yah (God), (shua) saves/salvation).

      Hope that helps...

      1. thooghun profile image84
        thooghunposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks, yes, that is interesting.

        1. Druid Dude profile image60
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          If you are really interested in names, look up "Pantera". If all you find is about a rock band, keep lookin'.

  5. Yuki92 profile image80
    Yuki92posted 6 years ago

    Philipians 2 verses 9-10

    9- Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

    10- That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

    A name above every other name. His real name is important!

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      Educated Rosieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Amein Yuki \O/

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      exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If you check the Greek name that Jesus was given at birth it was Iesous pronounced ee-ay-sooce
      If he was called (ee-ay-sooe) at that time, The Greek name was translated to Jesus hundreds of years later,
      So which name is above every other name?

      1. Yuki92 profile image80
        Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well, It should be assumed the name that God intended and not the name that was transliterated then translated.

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        Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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        Yahshua wasn't given a Greek name at birth.
        His birth name is Immanuel and he came in his Father's name Yah.

        Immanuel is Hebrew.
        But he used Yahshua, his Father's name and the message that God saves

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          exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          check the facts,
          they spoke Greek at the time of His birth, not Hebrew

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            Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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            Yes, the Greeks did.
            Jews spoke Hebrew.
            Check the facts..LOL

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              exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              then why write in Greek, if they spoke Hebrew

              1. Yuki92 profile image80
                Yuki92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Paul wrote most of the new testament and spoke both languages. I guess when he was preaching to the Greeks and was writing those books of the bible he wrote them in greek since the greeks didn't like the hebrew language.

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                Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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                Matthew, Mark, and Luke were taken from "The Gospel of The Hebrews" which was written in Hebrew. Revelations was taken from the Torat ha Sod a Jewish Mystical writing, written in Hebrew.
                James and John was written in Hebrew.
                The other books were written by Paul and his scribes, like Luke..
                that is why most of the New Testament was written in Greek, and not accepted by the Jew

  6. skipper112 profile image60
    skipper112posted 6 years ago

    well I'll Just stick to Jesus, after all why should I be different to the rest of the world, if it is Jesus in The New Americam Bible approved by Rome in 1970. That is to me a True Scorce and I'm happy with it.

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      Educated Rosieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The road to eternal life is narrow with few on it,the road to eternal destruction is broad with many on it,so if you choose to follow the "rest of the world" like you said Skipper be sure you know from Scripture the road you are travelling on,Know the Truth and it will set you free \O/

  7. Jerami profile image73
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    Can we say Hey-Seus sailed the oceans blue
      and discovered America too. 
      Lets give credit where credit is due.

       Just working on a poem
      No offence intended.

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      Educated Rosieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Should Paul McCartney have sung Hey Yehudi too? ;-)D

      1. Jerami profile image73
        Jeramiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        In this strange way of putting it; I was kinda agreeing with Debra.

           Should we be thanking George Jones for writing  "Yellow submarine??   Would Paul mind?

            On the other hand,  If Yahshua were standing in front of me and I called him Jesus, I don't think he would torch me for my not knowing any difference.  ?
        I hope not!

        1. Disappearinghead profile image85
          Disappearingheadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I don't think the issue is which verbal sounds come out of our mouths. Whether we say Jesus, Iesus, Yahshuah, is not the issue. A name is simply a moniker which represents the person. It's what He represents that counts. If I was in some foreign exotic country, someone might transliterate my name to make it easier for them to pronounce when addressing me. Will I be offended or ignore them? No. I respond because I know they are refring to me.

          When a policeman stands in the road with his hand outstretched to stop you, he stands in the name of the law. His own hand and body are nothing, but he represents the law, so the entire force of the legal system is behind that small gesture. So it is with Jesus. When we invoke his name, it is not the verbalised word that has the power, but the whole Kingdom of Heaven that stands behind our appeal in His name.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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            Then why does it say
            Acts 4:12
            Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

            The name does matter

            1. pisean282311 profile image51
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              name is simply identification mode...if all existing languages become extinct do you think god if real would become unknown?...if you call god by name of jesus or say redwa...in end what you intend is more important...there is only one universal language and that is pictorial...name doesnot matter because language is creation of humans.....

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                Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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                Sorry, the name matters. A name is not language it is a name. Names aren't suppose to be translated.
                If your name is Charles and someone calls you Tom would you turn and look to see whose calling you?
                If you told them your name is Charles and not to call you Tom and they did anyway, would you answer?

                1. pisean282311 profile image51
                  pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  If you told them your name is Charles and not to call you Tom and they did anyway, would you answer?..yes if i know that he meant me when he addressed as tom...i am human so i can't know but that limitation can't be applied to god...since god is said to know all...he knows person is calling charles by addressing as tom...also dont forget that person calling charles as tom is person whom charles/tom claims to love...so charles wont mind being called as tom ....

  8. pisean282311 profile image51
    pisean282311posted 6 years ago

    whats there in name ?...name is given by humans to identify...other than that name doesnot matter...

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    Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago

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    In Hebrew the letters and words are extremely important. It was the voice of God that spoke words and created the universe and everything in it.
    To the Hebrew words are very powerful.

    If you choose not to use the name we are told to, that's up to you.We can only tell you how important it is.l,m

    1. pisean282311 profile image51
      pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If you choose not to use the name we are told to?...who told you?...if you ask muslims , the name is allah...if you ask hindu name would be in sanskrit...no consensus ...in end what one believes one has right to believe...i dont believe in religious god but i fully support everyone's right to believe in what they believe...so since you say name is important ..it is for you and i dont mind that...i think that fair enough..isn't it?

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        Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

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        But you don't seem to understand what I am saying about God's words.
        God gave us a map to follow.
        Hebrew is not a religion it is a people and a language.

        So you don't believe it, OK, I am done responding to you.
        A closed mind learns nothing

        1. pisean282311 profile image51
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          i can say same thing for you too...let us openly discuss evolution of religion...dont start from hebrew start from where humans actually started...forget hebrew or sanskrit or anything..all those came very late in human domain and humans created it..if you are open may be even you can learn something...i am not expert but i dont rate humans as close or open ...

 
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