There are people who believe in god, allah, different religions or none at all so why not let people believe what they want to without attacking everyones individual choices and opinions.
If I say that I like to eat a particular food or watch a certain film, people are not that quick to shoot you down for that, whats the difference? there is no difference, its my opinion and it my choice so lets all be respectful of everyones choices...
If someone feels their religious views are being threatened, they will lash out. It means they aren't sure of their own beliefs. There is a difference between disagreeing in a debate and just plainly trying to ridicule someone's belief.
I agree with you; everyone should be respected whatever the religion or denomination; Atheists included.
That is the trouble with your religion - you go around attacking other people for not believing the nonsense you believe - and then lie about respecting them. No wonder your religion causes so many wars and killings.
Ah - I see you edited your statement to include atheists.Odd that you continue to attack them on another thread.
Yes I agree with you. The poor atheists mind their own business and never attack anyone else. Why in the world do people leave religious forums in search of an atheist opinion? Let them talk atheism amongst themselves in peace. That's what I think, anyway.
I agree completely! I am Christian, but I've always felt everyone has the right to believe however they want! It's called choice! I believe what I want and others have their own beliefs...it is a choice!
If everyone respected this philosophy we'd have fewer arguments and troubles! However, people seem to try their best to debunk other's beliefs to make their own look more believable...which is doesn't! Debunking another religion of belief does nothing to justify your own!
I couldn't agree more. I'm a Christian, but I know that is the only path for my salvation. I couldn't possibly begin to know what is right for anyone else.
How so? Does Christianity not preach that everyone's path for salvation is the same?
Yes, but judgement is left to God. I know Christ is my only hope for salvation. But, I can't speak for anyone else. I think, and it is just what I think, anyone who yearns for their Creator will be given the chance to be with Him on the afterlife.
Lets just be happy believing what we believe
yet open to accept truth where-ever it comes from
People will go on believing what they believe, whether others believe as they do or not. Some will defend their beliefs to the death. Many wars over religion have proven this to be true.
To debate ones beliefs with another is futile and one runs the chance of having their own beliefs tested.Before entering into a religious debate one must be sure of their commitment to their beliefs.
The issue here is not who is right and who is wrong. Is what we choose to believe simply a set of dogma that we listen to week after week and then regurgitate to anyone who is willing to listen? Does what we believe truly move us closer to our creator?
One must question what it is that they are committed to. Does our belief bring us closer to an awareness of our oneness? If you do not see your brother/sister as a perfect child of God you are on the wrong wavelength.
When we use religion as a means of creating a hierarchy or as a means of creating a separation between ourselves and others, we just don't get it.
I think Jesus said to have faith as little child will get us there.
It is when we get too phylisophicl that the arguements begin.
If Mark would finish his train of thought, that theism and atheism are phylosophys, and differences in phylosophys causes wars I could agree with him.
Because some people believe that truth is more important than a personal belief, specially when such includes that whoever doesn't share their opinion is immoral, a sinner, or worst: should be put to death.
Another problem with the new feel-good, 'let's all get alone' point of view coming from a christian (and this happens with lots of my friends) is that while I find perfectly fine that you respect other people's beliefs, why should you? If you happen to have a friend you love but is not religious, according to your belief, that person, that loved one will spend an eternity suffering horrible punishments. Why would anyone who really believes the religion they follow, accept that and be fine with it?
Then the matter of believing just some parts of for example the bible and ignoring those which don't fit your and society's current stand of what's acceptable and what isn't comes into play.
So why that fakeness?
Good point actually.
Just an opinion .. but I think that most believers do believe in GOD yet must have some doubts in religious doctrine.
There are just so many to choose from.
How can we be absolutely sure that we have chosen the right doctrine?
Religious Doctrines cause a Da--ed if we do and Da--ed if we don't situation.
If I feel that it is wrong to do something but do it anyway, this causes inner conflict. "SIN" This I have to live with.
But it is not right for me to attempt to place my sin upon another.
Here is the difference. (I think)
Do I believe that your sin is an abomination unto the Lord, or is it an abomination to me.
If it is an abomination to me, I need to do something (??)
to prevent an inner conflict within myself. And to prevent your sin rom getting on Me.
If it is an abomination unto the Lord I have to leave it up to him to deal with. In this the case, If I am honest with you concerning my feelings, We can still be friends if you can get over my beliefs.
Not exactly but something like that anyway.
I'm not denying they believe in god, but why that dishonesty in saying "I'm a christian" when you know inside you that some of its rules are completely unfair to your point of view as a member of society, and can't force to believe in it? Why can't they just believe in god without the moral/ethical influence, which isn't even there in the first place, but they pretend they are because they're supposed to? Isn't it just to feel part of a group?
"... why that dishonesty in saying "I'm a christian" when you know inside you that some of its rules are completely unfair to your point of view ..."
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Do I have to agree with all of the unpopular foreign policies in order to call myself a patriotic American?
That isn't a great answer but off the top of my head; that is the best that comes to mind.
Why can't they just believe in god without the moral/ethical influence, which isn't even there in the first place, but they pretend they are because they're supposed to? Isn't it just to feel part of a group?
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I think that all of us are reaching for something that is missing in our lives.
Maybe ... when we feel this void, we attempt to see some kind of void in others, thus in our own mind we elevate ourselves up to that position that they envision themselves to be in.
Maybe not. Everyone has some kind of psychological quirk which may appear similar to that which you described.
"Do I have to agree with all of the unpopular foreign policies in order to call myself a patriotic American?"
No, but you see? that's the problem. Those policies are not meant to be absolute, timeless, "THE Truth"; while religion, is. And while you do need to obbey some rules to remain an american, and you can even disagree with them, openly, without it being a contradiction or a hipocrisy, if you do the same with religion, you're being dishonest with yourself and to your (supposed) god.
Unless, as I said before, that you separate the concept of god with the concept of behaviour towards others in society.
"I think that all of us are reaching for something that is missing in our lives."
I think that's correct, and most of us, religious or not, share that. I try to fill that void with music, books, philosophy, movies, tv shows, humor, playing, learning, interacting with people, and to some degree, what people think of me; but I won't claim that those are the absolute truths in everyone's life.
Like I said before and I'll say it again- any belief in a god is selfish on part of the believer. Plain and simple. If it needs to be explained to anyone, then it's obvious that anyone not understanding the statement doesn't understand their own life.
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection...
Cause if we gonna resurrect together, we're gonna kill each other and resurrect over again.
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